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IBB, Not Buhari, Overthrew Shagari’s Govt — Col. Nyiam by folahann(m): 7:16am On Mar 18, 2015 |
In this interview, Col. Tony Nyiam, who was part of the failed attempt to oust the Gen. Ibrahim Babangida’s military government in 1990, tells WAHEED BAKARE and ALLWELL OKPI, how the Orkar coup originated and its relevance to Nigerian politics There is the argument that we don’t need to have another conference since we have representatives at the National Assembly. It is the most ignorant assumption. Why do I say it is ignorant? With all the political scientists we have in our midst, people forget that what we are practising is what we call indirect democracy. What do I mean? The proprietary right over people’s sovereignty is delegated to people we elect to make laws for us. When it comes to making constitutional reforms or constitution making, you go to what is called direct democracy. Direct democracy means direct voting by the people in the form of a referendum and that is why the universal practice is that a constitution making process that does not go through a constituent assembly, whose decisions are approved by a referendum, is null and void. We see the examples. Look at South Sudan; it’s creation resulted from a referendum. How is it that Nigerians do not understand that for a constitution to be legitimate, it has to be driven by the people, and the people are usually represented by a constituent assembly? And this constituent assembly is usually made up of non- partisan politicians, because partisan politicians are only concerned with the next election. They are not concerned about posterity or long-term issues in the country. So, constitution which outlives people and a generation should be driven by civil society, collection of every nationality in the country and clerics. I would cite an example. My second home is in Scotland and in Scotland those who drove for the national conference were the clerics of the Church of Scotland, they were at the forefront. We also saw it in Ireland. Britain has the oldest parliament in the world, why are they allowing a constituent assembly to go ahead, while there are parliaments? It is only in Nigeria that such argument is raised because of the ignorance of the difference between direct and indirect democracy. That’s why I have tried to do an aide-memoir to aid constitution- making. There are certain basic principles of constitution- making, which if we do not follow, would be like building a house on quicksand. Do you think we would have been able to tackle these problems if the June 12 election had not been annulled by Babangida? The thing is, Chief MKO Abiola, who I had the opportunity to work with when he escaped from Nigeria to UK, was a man that we lost because his plan was to correct the national issues and start democracy in Nigeria. But because some western interests in Nigeria did not want this, they colluded to do away with him. You once said soldiers could be recruited for a coup without their knowledge. How is that possible? Yes, there are many instances. You might want to verify this from Gen. Buhari, he was not the initiator of that coup that brought him in as Head of State, it was Gen. Ibrahim Bako and Babangida that initiated it. But because they wanted a credible figure as a face, he was brought in. He did not know the genesis of that coup. He was not quite aware of the original idea behind the coup and that was why when he decided to make a change, he was forced to step aside. So, if this could happen to a whole Gen. Buhari, who was supposedly the leader of a coup, it shows how many soldiers can be brought in that way. Does that mean overthrowing Shagari’s government was IBB’s idea? It was the idea of late Gen. Bako and IBB. Buhari was only brought in because they needed a face with integrity. Can you give other instances? Gen. Yakubu Gowon was not part of the coup that brought him in. He was a decent man. Nigerians like to play what the Yoruba people call bojuboju; they bring a figure with integrity to cover up their real intention; the real intention of politicians in uniform who have found cheap party. Many elements of them are in our partisan politics today. http://www.punchng.com/feature/interview/ibb-not-buhari-overthrew-shagaris-govt-col-nyiam/ |
Re: IBB, Not Buhari, Overthrew Shagari’s Govt — Col. Nyiam by DaBullIT(m): 7:21am On Mar 18, 2015 |
This PDP's Lie , propaganda busted , where una dey PDP dogs, bingo , bingo come prove otherwise 3 Likes |
Re: IBB, Not Buhari, Overthrew Shagari’s Govt — Col. Nyiam by Ovaiegbe(m): 7:29am On Mar 18, 2015 |
If one was the driver in a car robbery, does it matter if it was him who plotted or pointed the gun during the robbery? I used to think Col Nyiam was sensible but I can now see his hatred for IBB is having the best of him. 3 Likes |
Re: IBB, Not Buhari, Overthrew Shagari’s Govt — Col. Nyiam by LoveDecay(m): 7:39am On Mar 18, 2015 |
Ovaiegbe: see sense - so once someone go move contrary to the herd mentality - e no get sense again. Person talk sey IBB not Buhari overthrew Shagari, did you go back and do some research to see if there is any substance to what Nyiam said, no you did not. So now he is not sensible because he saying it as he saw it. Where you amongst them ? ITK |
Re: IBB, Not Buhari, Overthrew Shagari’s Govt — Col. Nyiam by ellguapo: 7:46am On Mar 18, 2015 |
Buhari keeps getting it right, consciously and otherwise. Antecedents are just too pristine and we would not fail to to return that integrity to our dear nation by Marching for Buhari/osibanjo P- please V- vote C- change 4 Likes |
Re: IBB, Not Buhari, Overthrew Shagari’s Govt — Col. Nyiam by Ovaiegbe(m): 10:08am On Mar 18, 2015 |
LoveDecay: IBB overthrew Shagari and Buhari began Head of State from that act. If Shagari was able to butch the coup, would Buhari have been named a coup plotter? Is Col Nyiam trying to tell us GMB did not overthrow a democratic government? Are coups plotted by just one man? IBB was Director Army staff duties and plans in Army HQ before the said coup. A position that had no direct control of personnel needed for a coup while GMB on the other hand was General Officer Commanding, 3rd Armed Division Nigerian Army a position which controls sufficient troops to run down a country. What exactly is Col Nyiam trying to make us believe? |
Re: IBB, Not Buhari, Overthrew Shagari’s Govt — Col. Nyiam by chiomashine: 10:37am On Mar 18, 2015 |
We don't care, Buhari is evil for all I care |
Re: IBB, Not Buhari, Overthrew Shagari’s Govt — Col. Nyiam by blackfase(m): 10:44am On Mar 18, 2015 |
Sai Buhari! In 9 days we decide. Finito! 2 Likes |
Re: IBB, Not Buhari, Overthrew Shagari’s Govt — Col. Nyiam by Ayoakinkahunsi(m): 11:09am On Mar 18, 2015 |
Col. Nyiam i dot understand what you are trying to say up there becareful |
Re: IBB, Not Buhari, Overthrew Shagari’s Govt — Col. Nyiam by Azwealth(m): 11:27am On Mar 18, 2015 |
Another lie and propaganda busted!! |
Re: IBB, Not Buhari, Overthrew Shagari’s Govt — Col. Nyiam by omolami: 11:52am On Mar 18, 2015 |
COL NYIAM KNOWS VERY WELL THAT ANYONE BROUGHT IN TO TAKE PART IN A COUP IS PART AND PARCEL OF THE COUP. THEREFORE BUHARI WAS PART OF THE COUP MORE SO AS HE HEADED THE GOVERNMENT THEN 1 Like |
Re: IBB, Not Buhari, Overthrew Shagari’s Govt — Col. Nyiam by PedroJP(m): 12:36pm On Mar 18, 2015 |
Azwealth: Now u wanna change history. So IBB overthrew Shagari's govt and Buhari took over ? U'v waited long to bust this propaganda. See ur head like busted. |
Re: IBB, Not Buhari, Overthrew Shagari’s Govt — Col. Nyiam by folahann(m): 10:19am On Mar 24, 2015 |
omolami: Read very well and comprehend. After they have successfully carried out the coup, they selected Buhari who wasn't part of their plan to head the govt. |
Re: IBB, Not Buhari, Overthrew Shagari’s Govt — Col. Nyiam by TechRev: 10:43am On Mar 24, 2015 |
And how does police or law address the man that buys or receives stolen goods?? Especially when the man knows the goods were stolen?? |
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