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How true is your claim, cos I paid full customs duty and we drove past that road with alot of check points.









Convince me

if you monitor them properly you will be fine. but if you buy the car hand it to them to pay your duty and deliver it to your house, you are on your own. all the wahala for just 25k i just wasnt buying it hence this research exercise.

shaddi:
How true is your claim, cos I paid full customs duty and we drove past that road with alot of check points.









Convince me

fanex:
if you monitor them properly you will be fine. but if you buy the car hand it to them to pay your duty and deliver it to your house, you are on your own. all the wahala for just 25k i just wasnt buying it hence this research exercise.

that's where people get it wrong, you don't just leave them all by themselves.... You have to monitor.... I don't take chances with plenty money I hustle on the high sea

@op pls explain what u mean by : CUSTOM AND CLEARING: 50% Cost due to d Nigeria govt. Does it that if the cost of Clearing if it comes through Lagos is like 350K coming through cotonou would be abt 175K?

no lagos and cotonu duty costs the same thing. but the thieving agents pa like 150k out of the 350k you give to them and bribe their way through IDIroko route. God forbid custom decides to dig history of your papers.

Icon4s:
@op pls explain what u mean by : CUSTOM AND CLEARING: 50% Cost due to d Nigeria govt. Does it that if the cost of Clearing if it comes through Lagos is like 350K coming through cotonou would be abt 175K?

fanex:
no lagos and cotonu duty costs the same thing. but the thieving agents pa like 150k out of the 350k you give to them and bribe their way through IDIroko route. God forbid custom decides to dig history of your papers.

After like how long is a car usually free of customs check?

Never free of custom

Icon4s:


After like how long is a car usually free of customs check?

fanex:
Never free of custom

But i understand they only usually check newly registered vehicles.

If they suspect you, they will check your papers. Wots d point driving and panicking?

Icon4s:


But i understand they only usually check newly registered vehicles.

fanex:
[color=#990000]When a Nigerian agent said to me that he will charge me N25,000 for his services to get a car and duty to paid to my door step. I wondered what the catch was.
these guy are not FRIENDS.

[code][/code]IN THE PARK - the add their own ontop of the cost price. 200k and above depending on the car price.

DRIVING WITH ESCORT TO BORDER (security) - 20K depending on the car

CUSTOM AND CLEARING - 50% of the true cost due to Nigerian Government. they pay a little change, to get your car on the database and pocket the rest of your money. duty worth 500k they pay 120k. so when you check, your car comes up.

they involve a real custom officer to fill out the forms showing that you paid full duty. (scam!!)

they always bring your car through IDIROKO where they pay like 20k at the border and get through.

NOTE: any car brought through IDIROKO either didnt pay duty at all or underpaid. IDIROKO border is a state border and not federal. if you see the office you will understand.
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at the end, they make close to 500k on a single and leave you with the risk. your car can be impounded if full duty isnt paid.

What did you no about clearing and forwarding agent?seme border cammand and idiroko border command and ilorin command are the same this duty paper is national,we run a duty clearance from idiroko border successfully non of our customers have ever complain about any harassment from customs nation wide.this picture shown here is rice or turkey which they want to smuggling to nigeria as usual nigerian government didn't legalise it so people find away of smuggling it to country
for your information customs primary assignment on Auto is to ask for the clearance of a vehicle in any of there checking point if they feel like to stop a vehicle,non nigeria custom officer wil tell you dat they dosnt recognise any of her border cammand duty paper!! Nigeria custom officer can only verify the vin on the clearance issue to your vehicle from there database to comfirm the originality of the document issue to your vehicle from the command stated on the document this can happen anywere in nigeria custom checking point if they realise the paper is fake the wil seized your car!you can also Saintjoel a.k.a gbenga he wil tell you more abt it.

Thanks.

I beg to differ.
the only reason anyone will drive a car through idiroko is because they got something to hide.
I was just showing picture of the road.
why doesnt idiroko have the same structure and equipment as the main seme border?

So u will take me to benin look for a car for a full day or 2 then clearly it n deliver it to my house for 25k?

hassrash:


What did you no about clearing and forwarding agent?seme border cammand and idiroko border command and ilorin command are the same this duty paper is national,we run a duty clearance from idiroko border successfully non of our customers have ever complain about any harassment from customs nation wide.this picture shown here is rice or turkey which they want to smuggling to nigeria as usual nigerian government didn't legalise it so people find away of smuggling it to country
for your information customs primary assignment on Auto is to ask for the clearance of a vehicle in any of there checking point if they feel like to stop a vehicle,non nigeria custom officer wil tell you dat they dosnt recognise any of her border cammand duty paper!! Nigeria custom officer can only verify the vin on the clearance issue to your vehicle from there database to comfirm the originality of the document issue to your vehicle from the command stated on the document this can happen anywere in nigeria custom checking point if they realise the paper is fake the wil seized your car!you can also Saintjoel a.k.a gbenga he wil tell you more abt it.

Thanks.

fanex:
I beg to differ.
the only reason anyone will drive a car through idiroko is because they got something to hide.
I was just showing picture of the road.
why doesnt idiroko have the same structure and equipment as the main seme border?

So u will take me to benin look for a car for a full day or 2 then clearly it n deliver it to my house for 25k?

Nobody is hiding anything by driven vehicle through idiroko or doing custom duty paper through idiroko border command both seme command and idiroko command generate money for federal government not any ones bank acct !
kindly ask the nairalanders to explain how idiroko border road look like and compair it with this picture you shows on here does it look like idiroko border Roadthis intentional road was constructed during IBB regime true picture of this road is coming up soon!nigeria federal government dosnt really cares about the way there structure,buildings and office equipment look like. Which most of us know anyway the controller of custom idiroko border command or the number one citizen of the country is meant to answer the question...
do you think its possible for you to enter into cotonou car market and buy car just like dat and bring it to nigeria succesfully like dat without the good work of agent?
bro you can try it if does taut in the market area wil not collect your money and run away...look at what you just said in your statement agent wil follow you move around the market search,inspect for a full a day or two days and finaly buy the car of your choice and deliver it 2u with authentic clearance so 25k is as big as amount you bought the car!

You don't know much about cotonou idiroko border, most of us have gone their buy cars wit original duty

fanex:
Never free of custom

Custom duty papers expire after seven years,once your vehicle is with seven years,NCS can still impound or spot check your papers.

fanex:
[color=#990000]When a Nigerian agent said to me that he will charge me N25,000 for his services to get a car and duty to paid to my door step. I wondered what the catch was.
these guy are not FRIENDS.

[code][/code]IN THE PARK - they add their own ontop of the cost price. 200k and above depending on the car price.

DRIVING WITH ESCORT TO BORDER (security) - 20K depending on the car

CUSTOM AND CLEARING - 50% of the true cost due to Nigerian Government. they pay a little change, to get your car on the database and pocket the rest of your money. duty worth 500k they pay 120k. so when you check, your car comes up.

they involve a real custom officer to fill out the forms showing that you paid full duty. (scam!!)

they always bring your car through IDIROKO where they pay like 20k at the border and get through.

NOTE: any car brought through IDIROKO either didnt pay duty at all or underpaid. IDIROKO border is a state border and not federal. if you see the office you will understand.
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at the end, they can make close to 500k on a single car and leave you with the risk. your car can be impounded if full duty isnt paid.

solutions--- go to cotonu yourself and speak negotiate the price of the car before you involve the agent.

Insist on following the agent to the bank to the duty. You will however pay for his services. Budget a week to do a clean legal transaction. You can find a good car.

avoid idiroko road by all means.

It saddens me when people like you come online just because subscription is now cheap and it has given demented souls like your's a chance to rant about things they don't know. Going through your profile shows that you must be living a sad and miserable life,always antagonising people over issues only you can explain.

I'll treat your case and also use your points as reference.

1."When a Nigerian agent said to me that he will charge me N25,000 for his services to get a car and duty to paid to my door step. I wondered what the catch was.
these guy are not FRIENDS."

If any agent charged you N25,000 for his/her services,it means it's a service charge and I believe you shouldn't have issues with it,which one would you've preferred,the agent taking you into Cotonou to fleece you or having a guide and ending up with a good bargain and you compensate him/her.

2. "IN THE PARK - they add their own ontop of the cost price. 200k and above depending on the car price".

In all my years as an agent,if we make 200K per purchase,many of us will be multi - millionaires by now,what stops you from bargaining yourself and walking off if it doesn't pay you,your agent is just there to act like a body guard,he doesn't need to bargain on your behalf.

3. "DRIVING WITH ESCORT TO BORDER (security) - 20K depending on the car".

I'll have told you that your stupidity has no part two but decorum will not allow me insult you. Everyone knows that when you purchase vehicles from the park,you pay 500,000 cefa to the government and it is used to cover things like insurance,temporary plate numbers,escort services to the border (escorts are licensed drivers engaged by the govt. to drive your vehicle to the border,since you can't drive in another country and it's a way of generating employment for their citizens),where did you get your N20,000 escort fee from?

4."CUSTOM AND CLEARING - 50% of the true cost due to Nigerian Government. they pay a little change, to get your car on the database and pocket the rest of your money. duty worth 500k they pay 120k. so when you check, your car comes up"

50% of which true cost,if don't have an idea of how the system works,it'll not hurt you if you ask instead or ranting.If you've ever taken time to go through my link "https://www.nairaland.com/1572889/custom-duty-payment-made-easier",you'll see that duty payment has been illustrated to the best of our ability. Where did you get the assumption that agents just pay little change and it goes into the system?

5. "They involve a real custom officer to fill out the forms showing that you paid full duty. (scam!!)".

When you say custom officers are involved in the scams that we run (quoting you),who do you actually expect to run NCS offices at the borders or port,maybe you expect to see ghosts from your village or witches that have kept tormenting your soul to carry out day to day activities of the command.

6." NOTE: any car brought through IDIROKO either didnt pay duty at all or underpaid. IDIROKO border is a state border and not federal. if you see the office you will understand".

You're the very first person I've heard this from,so there's now state owned NCS operating at a state border and it's no more a federal customs' command. An international road that has Saamks resort (one of the first indigenous resorts in Nigeria),Winners chapel with a CG NCS squad checkpoint around it's main gate,Obasanjo farms,the Bells university of technology,companies like justrite,Indomie,IDL and so many companies. The road links Rep.of Benin to towns like Ilaro,owode,Ado-odo,otta,ipokia etc and one tends to wonder where you got your picture of a bushpath from.

7. "at the end, they can make close to 500k on a single car and leave you with the risk. your car can be impounded if full duty isnt paid".

So it's not 200K again but 500K,your weed must have been mixed with gegemu and wrapped with cement paper.

If agents make up to 500K per vehicle,it means ordinary 99 camry that's around N850,000 will be around N350,000 (purchase and duty. If I make such money,I won't be shouting on nairaland,I'll be away in U.K or dubai.

8. "Solutions--- go to cotonu yourself and speak negotiate the price of the car before you involve the agent."

Do you think we'll stop you or anyone from going to cotonoui yourself,going with an agent only lessens the risk you'll face in getting a vehicle. What you fail to note is the fact that it pays us if you go into cotonou yourself without us,so that you won't saddle us with the vehicle's wahala at the border..all we would do is leave you with your issues when your car/car parts are stolen or the engine develops faults,na dat time you go know say khaki no be leather.

9. "Insist on following the agent to the bank to the duty. You will however pay for his services. Budget a week to do a clean legal transaction. You can find a good car".

If you go with the agent to the bank,how do you know the dollar valuie he was given and what he's paying into the bank?

Going into the bank with agent isn't a fail-proof system,it's about getting a good and experienced agent and why do you need a week for transactions when you can purchase,clear through customs and even obtain plate numbers within forty-eight hours.If any duty processing goes into a week,there's something more to it,so don't mislead people.

10. "You will however pay for his services. Budget a week to do a clean legal transaction. You can find a good car".

At first you state the N25,000 was a scam and just at the end of your rants,you suddenly advice prospective customers to pay service charges,seriously I don't think you've a sound mind.

fanex:
I beg to differ.
the only reason anyone will drive a car through idiroko is because they got something to hide.
I was just showing picture of the road.
why doesnt idiroko have the same structure and equipment as the main seme border?

So u will take me to benin look for a car for a full day or 2 then clearly it n deliver it to my house for 25k?

You're a lost and confused soul,so you don't know that structure at idiroko border is way better than the structures in seme and which equipment do you need,the same scanner the use is the same as seme border,maybe you visited the desert border around Rep.of Niger and you thought it was idiroko and to discover that you don't know that purchase and duty processing is now forty-eight hours is so appalling.

Which road did you show us,the bush part and some smugglers caught on it trying to smuggle turkey into Nigeria,I bet it with you,that picture was from an online source or newspaper.

Bros I love your response to this guys stupidity. when I saw the topic I thought I will see real picture only to find bush part for rice and turkey smugglers. When I wanted to get my car 3 years ago. My brother offered to go to cotonou and i followed him. He knows about car purchase in cotonou. It was so hectic till i told him not to try this work again. he should leave it for the experts and save himself the stress becos u want to save money.

secondly we drove the car through good smooth road till we got to our home in ota. we did correct and legit custom paper. So i dont know if na the thing wey you smoke yesterday when i see you dey affect you at the moment.

If you lack knowledge about a thing, simply ask. and dont deal with crooks that pass through bush. if you see the wroth of custom, you life will never remain the same.

cheers

saintjoel:


It saddens me when people like you come online just because subscription is now cheap and it has given demented souls like your's a chance to rant about things they don't know. Going through your profile shows that you must be living a sad and miserable life,always antagonising people over issues only you can explain.

I'll treat your case and also use your points as reference.

1."When a Nigerian agent said to me that he will charge me N25,000 for his services to get a car and duty to paid to my door step. I wondered what the catch was.
these guy are not FRIENDS."

If any agent charged you N25,000 for his/her services,it means it's a service charge and I believe you shouldn't have issues with it,which one would you've preferred,the agent taking you into Cotonou to fleece you or having a guide and ending up with a good bargain and you compensate him/her.

2. "IN THE PARK - they add their own ontop of the cost price. 200k and above depending on the car price".

In all my years as an agent,if we make 200K per purchase,many of us will be multi - millionaires by now,what stops you from bargaining yourself and walking off if it doesn't pay you,your agent is just there to act like a body guard,he doesn't need to bargain on your behalf.

3. "DRIVING WITH ESCORT TO BORDER (security) - 20K depending on the car".

I'll have told you that your stupidity has no part two but decorum will not allow me insult you. Everyone knows that when you purchase vehicles from the park,you pay 500,000 cefa to the government and it is used to cover things like insurance,temporary plate numbers,escort services to the border (escorts are licensed drivers engaged by the govt. to drive your vehicle to the border,since you can't drive in another country and it's a way of generating employment for their citizens),where did you get your N20,000 escort fee from?

4."CUSTOM AND CLEARING - 50% of the true cost due to Nigerian Government. they pay a little change, to get your car on the database and pocket the rest of your money. duty worth 500k they pay 120k. so when you check, your car comes up"

50% of which true cost,if don't have an idea of how the system works,it'll not hurt you if you ask instead or ranting.If you've ever taken time to go through my link "https://www.nairaland.com/1572889/custom-duty-payment-made-easier",you'll see that duty payment has been illustrated to the best of our ability. Where did you get the assumption that agents just pay little change and it goes into the system?

5. "They involve a real custom officer to fill out the forms showing that you paid full duty. (scam!!)".

When you say custom officers are involved in the scams that we run (quoting you),who do you actually expect to run NCS offices at the borders or port,maybe you expect to see ghosts from your village or witches that have kept tormenting your soul to carry out day to day activities of the command.

6." NOTE: any car brought through IDIROKO either didnt pay duty at all or underpaid. IDIROKO border is a state border and not federal. if you see the office you will understand".

You're the very first person I've heard this from,so there's now state owned NCS operating at a state border and it's no more a federal customs' command. An international road that has Saamks resort (one of the first indigenous resorts in Nigeria),Winners chapel with a CG NCS squad checkpoint around it's main gate,Obasanjo farms,the Bells university of technology,companies like justrite,Indomie,IDL and so many companies. The road links Rep.of Benin to towns like Ilaro,owode,Ado-odo,otta,ipokia etc and one tends to wonder where you got your picture of a bushpath from.

7. "at the end, they can make close to 500k on a single car and leave you with the risk. your car can be impounded if full duty isnt paid".

So it's not 200K again but 500K,your weed must have been mixed with gegemu and wrapped with cement paper.

If agents make up to 500K per vehicle,it means ordinary 99 camry that's around N850,000 will be around N350,000 (purchase and duty. If I make such money,I won't be shouting on nairaland,I'll be away in U.K or dubai.

8. "Solutions--- go to cotonu yourself and speak negotiate the price of the car before you involve the agent."

Do you think we'll stop you or anyone from going to cotonoui yourself,going with an agent only lessens the risk you'll face in getting a vehicle. What you fail to note is the fact that it pays us if you go into cotonou yourself without us,so that you won't saddle us with the vehicle's wahala at the border..all we would do is leave you with your issues when your car/car parts are stolen or the engine develops faults,na dat time you go know say khaki no be leather.

9. "Insist on following the agent to the bank to the duty. You will however pay for his services. Budget a week to do a clean legal transaction. You can find a good car".

If you go with the agent to the bank,how do you know the dollar valuie he was given and what he's paying into the bank?

Going into the bank with agent isn't a fail-proof system,it's about getting a good and experienced agent and why do you need a week for transactions when you can purchase,clear through customs and even obtain plate numbers within forty-eight hours.If any duty processing goes into a week,there's something more to it,so don't mislead people.

10. "You will however pay for his services. Budget a week to do a clean legal transaction. You can find a good car".

At first you state the N25,000 was a scam and just at the end of your rants,you suddenly advice prospective customers to pay service charges,seriously I don't think you've a sound mind.

well in practice without custom papers its impossible to ascertain when the seven years begins and ends.

saintjoel:


Custom duty papers expire after seven years,once your vehicle is with seven years,NCS can still impound or spot check your papers.

fanex:
well in practice without custom papers its impossible to ascertain when the seven years begins and ends.

Which is why you need duty papers for clarification,something tells me that you're just confused about this cotonou issh but instead of asking,you just decided to start throwing tantrums.

There is no reason for you to be rude and completely out of order. i understand the need to defend your livelihood but not in the manner you have done. what you have done in effect is to raise suspicion.

i have written this article to the best of my knowledge and it is up to you (the expert) to respond with utmost civility.

25k charge for your services

i think you guys should run a more transparent business.

undisclosed agent fee at the point of sale.

i do business with one of those Lebanese guys that import the cars to cotonu and he told me that that the reason why prices of cars in the park are steadily going up is because of the touts and the agents. he said they can make upto 500k on a single car worth 5m without the knowledge of the buyer.
He said [b]sometimes, to avoid trouble, they (Lebanese guys) wouldnt even negotiate directly with customer because of the touts (mostly indigenous touts).

i am all for clean business. state your bill and deliver!!! so i buy a car of 4.5m through you and all you make form it is 25k? you come count bridge for lagos?

i actually got that picture off the internet. so dont be saddened it is the age of information.

saintjoel:


It saddens me when people like you come online just because subscription is now cheap and it has given demented souls like your's a chance to rant about things they don't know. Going through your profile shows that you must be living a sad and miserable life,always antagonising people over issues only you can explain.

I'll treat your case and also use your points as reference.

1."When a Nigerian agent said to me that he will charge me N25,000 for his services to get a car and duty to paid to my door step. I wondered what the catch was.
these guy are not FRIENDS."

If any agent charged you N25,000 for his/her services,it means it's a service charge and I believe you shouldn't have issues with it,which one would you've preferred,the agent taking you into Cotonou to fleece you or having a guide and ending up with a good bargain and you compensate him/her.

2. "IN THE PARK - they add their own ontop of the cost price. 200k and above depending on the car price".

In all my years as an agent,if we make 200K per purchase,many of us will be multi - millionaires by now,what stops you from bargaining yourself and walking off if it doesn't pay you,your agent is just there to act like a body guard,he doesn't need to bargain on your behalf.

3. "DRIVING WITH ESCORT TO BORDER (security) - 20K depending on the car".

I'll have told you that your stupidity has no part two but decorum will not allow me insult you. Everyone knows that when you purchase vehicles from the park,you pay 500,000 cefa to the government and it is used to cover things like insurance,temporary plate numbers,escort services to the border (escorts are licensed drivers engaged by the govt. to drive your vehicle to the border,since you can't drive in another country and it's a way of generating employment for their citizens),where did you get your N20,000 escort fee from?

4."CUSTOM AND CLEARING - 50% of the true cost due to Nigerian Government. they pay a little change, to get your car on the database and pocket the rest of your money. duty worth 500k they pay 120k. so when you check, your car comes up"

50% of which true cost,if don't have an idea of how the system works,it'll not hurt you if you ask instead or ranting.If you've ever taken time to go through my link "https://www.nairaland.com/1572889/custom-duty-payment-made-easier",you'll see that duty payment has been illustrated to the best of our ability. Where did you get the assumption that agents just pay little change and it goes into the system?

5. "They involve a real custom officer to fill out the forms showing that you paid full duty. (scam!!)".

When you say custom officers are involved in the scams that we run (quoting you),who do you actually expect to run NCS offices at the borders or port,maybe you expect to see ghosts from your village or witches that have kept tormenting your soul to carry out day to day activities of the command.

6." NOTE: any car brought through IDIROKO either didnt pay duty at all or underpaid. IDIROKO border is a state border and not federal. if you see the office you will understand".

You're the very first person I've heard this from,so there's now state owned NCS operating at a state border and it's no more a federal customs' command. An international road that has Saamks resort (one of the first indigenous resorts in Nigeria),Winners chapel with a CG NCS squad checkpoint around it's main gate,Obasanjo farms,the Bells university of technology,companies like justrite,Indomie,IDL and so many companies. The road links Rep.of Benin to towns like Ilaro,owode,Ado-odo,otta,ipokia etc and one tends to wonder where you got your picture of a bushpath from.

7. "at the end, they can make close to 500k on a single car and leave you with the risk. your car can be impounded if full duty isnt paid".

So it's not 200K again but 500K,your weed must have been mixed with gegemu and wrapped with cement paper.

If agents make up to 500K per vehicle,it means ordinary 99 camry that's around N850,000 will be around N350,000 (purchase and duty. If I make such money,I won't be shouting on nairaland,I'll be away in U.K or dubai.

8. "Solutions--- go to cotonu yourself and speak negotiate the price of the car before you involve the agent."

Do you think we'll stop you or anyone from going to cotonoui yourself,going with an agent only lessens the risk you'll face in getting a vehicle. What you fail to note is the fact that it pays us if you go into cotonou yourself without us,so that you won't saddle us with the vehicle's wahala at the border..all we would do is leave you with your issues when your car/car parts are stolen or the engine develops faults,na dat time you go know say khaki no be leather.

9. "Insist on following the agent to the bank to the duty. You will however pay for his services. Budget a week to do a clean legal transaction. You can find a good car".

If you go with the agent to the bank,how do you know the dollar valuie he was given and what he's paying into the bank?

Going into the bank with agent isn't a fail-proof system,it's about getting a good and experienced agent and why do you need a week for transactions when you can purchase,clear through customs and even obtain plate numbers within forty-eight hours.If any duty processing goes into a week,there's something more to it,so don't mislead people.

10. "You will however pay for his services. Budget a week to do a clean legal transaction. You can find a good car".

At first you state the N25,000 was a scam and just at the end of your rants,you suddenly advice prospective customers to pay service charges,seriously I don't think you've a sound mind.

you are right. if it sounds too good to be true, then it is.

saintjoel:


Which is why you need duty papers for clarification,something tells me that you're just confused about this cotonou issh but instead of asking,you just decided to start throwing tantrums.

fanex:
Never free of custom

6 years after first registration.

how do u determine when the 6 years starts to run without papers. the answer is forever

ib2015:

6 years after first registration.

fanex:
how do u determine when the 6 years starts to run without papers. the answer is forever

Each month, we know when the different plates will be coming out in high registration states like Lagos, Abuja, Kano etc so, if your car reg is reading AA ....you are old school but if its reading GGE your just a last year baby.
Guys are trained fo this. That is why if a neatly refurbished vehicle with a new plate is passing, it get stopped and let go after a closer look.
Vis a vis, that is why customs is against old numbers being used for new vehicles as the case is now.....and they are still fighting to get it reversed.
These are just fact....not a confrontation. I am only here to boost your right up.
Peace.

i sort of agree with you but you are still at the mercy of the customer officer. i am all for paying full duty for your own peace of mind.

ib2015:

Each month, we know when the different plates will be coming out in high registration states like Lagos, Abuja, Kano etc so, if your car reg is reading AA ....you are old school but if its reading GGE your just a last year baby.
Guys are trained fo this. That is why if a neatly refurbished vehicle with a new plate is passing, it get stopped and let go after a closer look.
Vis a vis, that is why customs is against old numbers being used for new vehicles as the case is now.....and they are still fighting to get it reversed.
These are just fact....not a confrontation. I am only here to boost your right up.
Peace.

clearly you are missing the point ITS NOT A SCAM!!! all i am against are the hidden charges.

FYI - I am talking about cars that cost in excess of 5m upwards.

it doesn't make any business sense to charge 25k.

let them state their true charge. its the age of information this things have a way of coming out.

RoyalRoy:
@Op, really I don't get your point in this topic of discourse.

So because they ask for 25k service fee that's why you concluded its all a scam?

How can they buy a very clean and well used car for you at let's say 1.2million and then they gained 500k from you.

Are you high?

Did they steal the car for you?

Or did they put a gun on your head to bring 500k to add to their pocket after purchase?

When you dont understand a business, maybe you should ask people who know instead if coming online to discredit the livelihood of others just because you dont know how its been run.

Grow Up Fanex!!!

fanex:
There is no reason for you to be rude and completely out of order. i understand the need to defend your livelihood but not in the manner you have done. what you have done in effect is to raise suspicion.

i have written this article to the best of my knowledge and it is up to you (the expert) to respond with utmost civility.

25k charge for your services

i think you guys should run a more transparent business.

undisclosed agent fee at the point of sale.

i do business with one of those Lebanese guys that import the cars to cotonu and he told me that that the reason why prices of cars in the park are steadily going up is because of the touts and the agents. he said they can make upto 500k on a single car worth 5m without the knowledge of the buyer.
He said [b]sometimes, to avoid trouble, they (Lebanese guys) wouldnt even negotiate directly with customer because of the touts (mostly indigenous touts).

i am all for clean business. state your bill and deliver!!! so i buy a car of 4.5m through you and all you make form it is 25k? you come count bridge for lagos?

i actually got that picture off the internet. so dont be saddened it is the age of information.

1."I actually got that picture off the internet. so dont be saddened it is the age of information".

This statement alone nullifies everything you've stated in your topic. so you mean you actually went on the internet,saw a bushpath and assumed it was idiroko road,let me tell you in the most civil way I can think of,"YOU SHOULD BE CASTRATED AND SHOT" for trying to destroy the livelihood of people making a living around cotonou.

2."I do business with one of those Lebanese guys that import the cars to cotonu and he told me that that the reason why prices of cars in the park are steadily going up is because of the touts and the agents. he said they can make upto 500k on a single car worth 5m without the knowledge of the buyer".

Did that Lebanese also tell you that increase in exchange rate and government policies in Nigeria are also factors affecting prices in cotonou.The 500K you keep stating,is it in cefa or Naira,kindly let us know the value in naira if it's in cefa. If you already have an idea of how much a vehicle is sold and you're sincere with yourself,how will someone from nowhere make 500K out of your deal.

The reason why people like you get scammed is just because you go into the market with the hope of buying a 2008 camry for one million naira and the touts and lebanese also see that you especially the lebanese who will tell you that they want to do business alone with you and by the time you know it,you end up with an accidented vehicle or you pay more than you bargained for,while he is secure in the knowledge that once the vehicle crosses the border,you can't bring it back or arrest him.

3. "He said [b]sometimes, to avoid trouble, they (Lebanese guys) wouldnt even negotiate directly with customer because of the touts (mostly indigenous touts)."

Thank God you stated that touts disrupt business in cotonou but one question I'll like to ask you is this,did those touts come into Nigeria to meet you,many customer always have thoughts just like you do that agents are fleecing and they go into parks themselves only for touts to dupe or harass them,so how's that the fault of any agent.


4. " I am all for clean business. state your bill and deliver!!! so i buy a car of 4.5m through you and all you make form it is 25k? you come count bridge for lagos?".

How are you so concerned with the amount any agent goes home with when you've stated your budget,with all these tantrum you've been throwing,I even doubt if you have such amount in your account.

Have you ever wondered why agents at the border look so weather beaten and our counterparts at the ports are big men,what you pay at the port to clear vehicles is much more than what you pay at the border. Before rhe the increment,agents were making around 7,000 naira on underage cars but with increment,they end up with around 3,000 naira after processing cos customs have ways of collecting every dime you've charged your client,now imagine if all any agent does in a week is one underage car?,it's this service charge and other tips like driving of cars etc that keeps us alive. I don't know where you all got that idea of agents living large at the expense of customers. If we make so much money,we'll be millionaires by now.

fanex:
clearly you are missing the point ITS NOT A SCAM!!! all i am against are the hidden charges.

FYI - I am talking about cars that cost in excess of 5m upwards.

it doesn't make any business sense to charge 25k.

let them state their true charge. its the age of information this things have a way of coming out.

Have you always been like this or the witches in your village just decided to start yanking your chain. You've been told it's N25,000 for service charge and you keep throwing tantrums about cars above five million naira,seriously you need to visit a spiritualist to cleat your senses.

This was the reason I created this topic for people dealing in cotonou, https://www.nairaland.com/2148485/cotonou-dealers-importers-agents-thread but agents,dealers etc refused to come on board to trash issues out and even state what they do in or around cotonou and this has given people like fanex to slander our livelihood.

It's time we let people know us and stop hiding,we now have many people sitting in their homes claiming to be agents and all the do is bring gullible customers into the parks,scam them and handover the shoddy jobs to the real agents.There are so many of them and they've brought ridicule to our jobs,so it's in our hands to clear this mystery once and for all or we'll always bear the brunt.

fanex:
i sort of agree with you but you are still at the mercy of the customer officer. i am all for paying full duty for your own peace of mind.

That is true. Pay your duty, register your vehicle as at when due, have proper and authentic not expired documents.....and u will always be safe from the law.