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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by elohorayodele: 5:05pm On Jul 12, 2015
erico2k2:

nah teh made in china own you wack, come presidential Suya at Old kent rd grin grin grin

I don chop am, e no be like aboki Suya for naija jare
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by erico2k2(m): 5:42pm On Jul 12, 2015
elohorayodele:


I don chop am, e no be like aboki Suya for naija jare
some of those aboki fit use jakii make suya sef U no go kno, grin grin
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by elohorayodele: 6:44pm On Jul 12, 2015
erico2k2:

some of those aboki fit use jakii make suya sef U no go kno, grin grin

grin
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by tai2(m): 7:13pm On Jul 12, 2015
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3158012/Foreign-students-banned-working-forced-leave-UK-course-ends.html

U.K has just announced plans to force students to leave when their course ends. After spending 6 or 7 million they will send you home with your qualifications. Compared to Canada and Australia them that allow you to work for several years after graduation. Yet some would have you believe that the U.K of 7 years ago is the same now. If you're not a top-tier professional, getting ILR is difficult through normal means, talk less of finding work. People should do research before they just wake up and go anywhere to avoid stories that touch.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by dustydee: 9:44pm On Jul 12, 2015
tai2:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3158012/Foreign-students-banned-working-forced-leave-UK-course-ends.html

U.K has just announced plans to force students to leave when their course ends. After spending 6 or 7 million they will send you home with your qualifications. Compared to Canada and Australia them that allow you to work for several years after graduation. Yet some would have you believe that the U.K of 7 years ago is the same now. If you're not a top-tier professional, getting ILR is difficult through normal means, talk less of finding work. People should do research before they just wake up and go anywhere to avoid stories that touch.
Mbok does the N7m include right to stay? If not then they have the right to choose whether they want them to stay or not. If the students are not happy then they can go elsewhere, abi?

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by erico2k2(m): 4:38pm On Jul 13, 2015
tai2:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3158012/Foreign-students-banned-working-forced-leave-UK-course-ends.html

U.K has just announced plans to force students to leave when their course ends. After spending 6 or 7 million they will send you home with your qualifications. Compared to Canada and Australia them that allow you to work for several years after graduation. Yet some would have you believe that the U.K of 7 years ago is the same now. If you're not a top-tier professional, getting ILR is difficult through normal means, talk less of finding work. People should do research before they just wake up and go anywhere to avoid stories that touch.
They require you to earn certain amount. £35 within 6 years of employment.
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by erico2k2(m): 4:41pm On Jul 13, 2015
lucky032:


Even with 500 euro saving monthly,you can still be made.
guy you go be grandad by the time you save 10m naira

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by poxibility: 12:50pm On Jul 14, 2015
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by poxibility: 1:09pm On Jul 14, 2015
tai2:
2. Lack of Jobs

If somebody tells you they are [b]“hustling” or “on the streets” in obodo oyibo. Run. The only street business that brings money is crime [/b]and sooner or later they get caught and pay for it. For every hustler that has “succeeded” and built properties in Nigeria, there are 100 others locked in prison, dead or buried. Do not be a victim or claim you have special luck. Probability does not know luck or the prayers of your mother in the village.

I disagree with you on the above point. How could you conclude that everybody on the streets is into frauds? This is far from the truth, maybe you had a sheltered upbringing, and you don't really know what it takes to be on the streets. In fact, for you to succeed in life without any support structure(inheritance), you need to be street smart which does not mean you have to be fraudulent.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by lucky032(m): 7:28am On Jul 15, 2015
erico2k2:
guy you go be grandad by the time you save 10m naira
How many grand dad have 10 million

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by erico2k2(m): 7:02pm On Jul 29, 2015
lucky032:


How many grand dad have 10 million
plenty, U think 10 M is massive abi? if you never reach that level then its understandable,it will cost you up to 10M to build a 3 bedroom flat in most states these days.
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by Nobody: 1:44am On Jul 30, 2015
Many of you shouting Obodo oyibo is bad, if dey give una American green card una go run commot for Naija. going to Europe or America legitimately is guarantee for good life, that is why people are going for Canadian immigrants visa, America green card, Germany or UK residents visa, if yu have any of this, your life will never remain the same. Nigerians na suffering na smiling we dey do here.Europe is d best if you have the write visa.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by true2home(m): 12:46am On Sep 01, 2015
I really can not say, but what i can say is that the pay we had wasn't a living wage either but we made do by sharing room, expenses and sacrificing a lot for better tomorrow. i swell, if i wasn't a US citizen, i would have returned home. our friends that weren't had to suffer and most of them fell into crime to make hands meet and paid dearly for it too. i got your point and i hope you get my too! If only we have social support like loans...because that's the only thing the makes abroad to appear rosy.
justwise:


Let me ask you this: are security guards in Nigeria paid enough to be able to sponsor themselves for a degree course, rent and bills?

Are those Nigerians working in places like sweet sensation earn enough for a degree course, bills and rent?
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by SisterSister(f): 8:11pm On Nov 02, 2015
Very nice...you have covered it all!
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by thewatcher2020: 6:27am On Nov 03, 2015
The O.P. is right on quite a number of points raised. I'd support the O.P. when I'm done with this Architectural Design I'm doing together with other tasks I'm running at the moment. Just so I let y'all know, I never knew how empty one could be even with reasonable amount of dollars you've got while here in this ultra advanced world. O.P., I'd buttress so many points raised by you soon.
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by Nobody: 12:32pm On Nov 03, 2015
@OP is talking somehow somehow i.e not fully informed.. I have friends who are literally millionaires in US terms and they run their own business.. what you should have pointed out is that Service and Field work pays far better than a desk job while the opposite obtains here.
1: Emeka (not real name) graduated in 2000 from Unilag, won visa lottery - he is a contractor to several military bases in a state in the US. what does he do? service and replace electrical components - i.e change light-bulbs. He has built and sold several Flats in the Lekki I and Chevron areas

2: Iju (not real name) graduated from Medicine (Unilag/Medilag) and is Dr. in the DC area earns well over $200+ annually and is on a paid-research team looking at alternatives to cancer treatment

3: Ade came on a student visa and dropped out of school, got married and had his status changed.. his wife's family own a farm in sheboygan WI.. he is in charge.. Fresh farm products straight to grocery stores and farm markets in at least 3 states outside WI.

4: Mukaila's visit visa expired and since 2008 and was lucky to be eligible for one of Obama's directives on regularization of immigrant status for non-documented folks.. he now owns a pizza restaurant cum African delicacies business.. silently killing it.

5: Offor won visa lottery and is into the dirty business of cleaning up premises of factories (Facilities Management) your guess is as good as mine on how much he earns.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by thewatcher2020: 12:45am On Nov 04, 2015
tai2:
3. Racism

Lol. Being a black man or woman is tough in this world. Oyibo that bathes twice or three times a week to save water, will hold their nose when they see you. Some people will openly refuse to serve you, some will refuse to even answer you or give you a job.

Racism is everywhere, the level of racism depends on the country i.e are you in a country as hard as Poland or in one where they have a lot of people of different races such as the United States? If you live in a city with people from different countries, it tends to be much less.

Its not all bad, some people will actually like you for being black others will detest you. The point is you don’t know who is going to hiss at you in the morning or smile, which can be depressing.

Also the poorer you are and the poorer the society you live in, the more racism you are likely to suffer. Rich people are welcome anywhere. A rich black man will think he is the most loved person in the world in some of these places but still some people will not care and look at you like you were coated in dawadawa and smell of the substance. You need a strong mind for this one.


4. Loneliness

In Nigeria, its never hard to make friends. Even with Iya that owns the provision store near your house, where you can sit down and discuss everything from the thieves that are stealing Nigeria’s money to that single woman in your compound who is always entertaining men with different cars at all hours of the day.

In Obodo Oyibo, nobody has time to sit around and discuss. Your neighbour will see you in the morning and walk past without saying hello. The person smiling for you in the store is only trying to separate you from your money. You cannot call people to gist with them on the phone and spend one or two hours. Calling Nigeria however might be easier because of Internet calls, however when you have to work for food you have little time to socialize.

Over time you might learn to make friends with co-workers, other Nigerians and other people, but it will take a lot of time. People you spend time gisting with today might not even acknowledge you tomorrow. That is the way it is.

If you think the O.P. aint right on these issues quoted above, its either you have never LIVED (not visited) in a foreign country dominated by the white folks or you have grown a damn too tough skin to cushion against such weighty (from a sensitive perspective) issues such as racism and loneliness.

Life is not all about the money people. I swear, I understood this when I moved into this country some months ago. What I earn now is over $16,000/month. When you compare that to what i was earning in Nigeria with the fact that I had more responsibilities with litttle resources back there, you would know that right here- There is MONEY!

Back to the issue of Loneliness... It is so damn true. I bought my favorite car last week here, a Mercedes S500 just to make myself happy and take my mind away from this lonely state of mind, yeah its that bad. For me, the major escape route out of situations I cant control is just to peep into my bank account and spend, spend, spend till the account is feeling threatened! You are gonna die of isolation in here trust me if you are the type who once led a bubbly social life back in Nigeria. You get ignored by someone you had a 2 hour lively conversations with some nights ago and you'd just stand there and be thinking "Did he/she see me and walked past like that, or she isn't the same person?" features like this occur daily here.

Some of you would say "hey, go out and make friends". LOL. Do you know Racism is still very much alive in the west, but they are just concealing it? They practice what i would call Institutionalized racism mehnnn. it is a practice where the white folks look at you and smile back at you and willing to assist you with whatever BUT not willing to take it beyond that. I met some Nigerians here who's been living here for over 8 years yet they dont even have a LIFE! They'd pretend all is well -Socially but hey, they aint happy people. They are lonely. Many of them got good jobs and the ones with wives and kids cant really take their wives and kids to visit "friends" on sundays except of course the "friend" is a Nigerian and not a burden to them.

It wasn't with my clear eyes I resuscitated my friendship with some of my exes back in Nigeria. For no damn reason, I sent two IPhone 6S to different girls that I once dated back in Nigeria- one married, the other unmarried. Why? They were damn too good to me, I never appreciated those girls enough while we dated back then and coming here I realized how precious those girls were to me that sometimes I just wanna quit this place and head back home and Live Normal again but peeps be telling me "e go better". With money, these folks here would give you some level of FORCED respect but asides that you are not better off than the Imaginary monkeys in their heads.

I have got game people. Dont worry about all my rants above, I have got 3 white chics helping me ease tensions when necessary but let me tell you, the one i love so much, the Dad doesnt even talk to blacks. You can see where I'm coming from. We just bang, shop, club, surf, go to beach and have all that fun once work is pretty much less and leisure time is available but hey that feeling of emptiness creeps in every once in a while.

So it isn't about the money and all. But mortgage life sweet small sha. I just bought a duplex here and my monthly payment is being partially serviced by rents i receive from about 3 flats I bought some months immediately I landed my job- Na calculations here and there ooo people, I never knew I would be making financial decisions like this but thanks to the efficient system we've got in place here, You can plan your life better here than there in Nigeria. Isolation/Loneliness and Racism remains the bane of an African in this society. Even the lowest of the Low whites thinks he is better than you coz you are black.

Don't ever feel intimidated here. Got here with my self esteem still intact and I wouldn't trade that for anything. Some online merchants debited my account wrongly when i came in, i tried requesting for rectification but they were acting all bossy and shit. I didnt even bother wasting time, I just got a Lawyer, paid him about $4,750 for his services- asked him to file court papers and serve the airheads. They came begging the following week giving me my full refund of the fraudulent debit of $275 yeah... I sued for that amount when i felt these guys were treating me like this coz they were accustomed to treating Africans like that and hey they gave me my full cost of money $4,750 spent on the Legal services as part of the terms of settlement. My Lawyer a white guy was so surprised that a black man would go this length to seek redress hence he tried discouraging me with such high fee of $4,750 to fight for $275! I was even given a free gift card of $1000 afterwards.

That is just my experience so far in obodo Oyibo.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by londoner: 9:03am On Nov 04, 2015
erico2k2:

They require you to earn certain amount. £35 within 6 years of employment.

Basically, the UK now only want a certain type of immigrant. They want professionals and will soon introduce a points system like Australia.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by SisterSister(f): 4:44am On Nov 05, 2015
thewatcher2020:


If you think the O.P. aint right on these issues quoted above, its either you have never LIVED (not visited) in a foreign country dominated by the white folks or you have grown a damn too tough skin to cushion against such weighty (from a sensitive perspective) issues such as racism and loneliness.

Life is not all about the money people. I swear, I understood this when I moved into this country some months ago. What I earn now is over $16,000/month. When you compare that to what i was earning in Nigeria with the fact that I had more responsibilities with litttle resources back there, you would know that right here- There is MONEY!

Back to the issue of Loneliness... It is so damn true. I bought my favorite car last week here, a Mercedes S500 just to make myself happy and take my mind away from this lonely state of mind, yeah its that bad. For me, the major escape route out of situations I cant control is just to peep into my bank account and spend, spend, spend till the account is feeling threatened! You are gonna die of isolation in here trust me if you are the type who once led a bubbly social life back in Nigeria. You get ignored by someone you had a 2 hour lively conversations with some nights ago and you'd just stand there and be thinking "Did he/she see me and walked past like that, or she isn't the same person?" features like this occur daily here.

Some of you would say "hey, go out and make friends". LOL. Do you know Racism is still very much alive in the west, but they are just concealing it? They practice what i would call Institutionalized racism mehnnn. it is a practice where the white folks look at you and smile back at you and willing to assist you with whatever BUT not willing to take it beyond that. I met some Nigerians here who's been living here for over 8 years yet they dont even have a LIFE! They'd pretend all is well -Socially but hey, they aint happy people. They are lonely. Many of them got good jobs and the ones with wives and kids cant really take their wives and kids to visit "friends" on sundays except of course the "friend" is a Nigerian and not a burden to them.

It wasn't with my clear eyes I resuscitated my friendship with some of my exes back in Nigeria. For no damn reason, I sent two IPhone 6S to different girls that I once dated back in Nigeria- one married, the other unmarried. Why? They were damn too good to me, I never appreciated those girls enough while we dated back then and coming here I realized how precious those girls were to me that sometimes I just wanna quit this place and head back home and Live Normal again but peeps be telling me "e go better". With money, these folks here would give you some level of FORCED respect but asides that you are not better off than the Imaginary monkeys in their heads.

I have got game people. Dont worry about all my rants above, I have got 3 white chics helping me ease tensions when necessary but let me tell you, the one i love so much, the Dad doesnt even talk to blacks. You can see where I'm coming from. We just bang, shop, club, surf, go to beach and have all that fun once work is pretty much less and leisure time is available but hey that feeling of emptiness creeps in every once in a while.

So it isn't about the money and all. But mortgage life sweet small sha. I just bought a duplex here and my monthly payment is being partially serviced by rents i receive from about 3 flats I bought some months immediately I landed my job- Na calculations here and there ooo people, I never knew I would be making financial decisions like this but thanks to the efficient system we've got in place here, You can plan your life better here than there in Nigeria. Isolation/Loneliness and Racism remains the bane of an African in this society. Even the lowest of the Low whites thinks he is better than you coz you are black.

Don't ever feel intimidated here. Got here with my self esteem still intact and I wouldn't trade that for anything. Some online merchants debited my account wrongly when i came in, i tried requesting for rectification but they were acting all bossy and shit. I didnt even bother wasting time, I just got a Lawyer, paid him about $4,750 for his services- asked him to file court papers and serve the airheads. They came begging the following week giving me my full refund of the fraudulent debit of $275 yeah... I sued for that amount when i felt these guys were treating me like this coz they were accustomed to treating Africans like that and hey they gave me my full cost of money $4,750 spent on the Legal services as part of the terms of settlement. My Lawyer a white guy was so surprised that a black man would go this length to seek redress hence he tried discouraging me with such high fee of $4,750 to fight for $275! I was even given a free gift card of $1000 afterwards.

That is just my experience so far in obodo Oyibo.


You have captured the life in print very well.

Glad to read you do not tolerate the racist whites delusional nonsense and dealt with that matter proper.

In Nigeria there is a different kind of closeness that many do not share in the US, unless one has a circle of good people both family and friends. Nobody in the US wants to get close to someone they don't know and have them drag them into trouble or jail. This has some to do with the felt distance. That loneliness for that closeness shared in Nigeria may linger until back in Nigeria.
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by aariwa(m): 11:53am On May 28, 2016
YerYer:


Pls don't misquote me, read the entirety of my comment. I never said someone who's "fresh" from Nigeria. Rather I said after earning an associate degree within 2-3yrs or bachelors within 4yrs or less, it all depends on your prior level of education and the course you studied in Nigeria. It is a 'catch-22' you can't sit comfortable at home watching The Kardashian Show and expect to make this kind of money, something has got to give. If you read my comment thoroughly, you will note that I said you must be hardworking and willing to work several overtime hours.
Everyone will pave their own path in life, however, if you are a determined Nigerian coming to the U.S with a green card and graduated secondary school or university in Nigeria already, I can direct you towards a career path that will make you a minimum of $200,000 a year if you achieve the following (1) You complete your associate degree in 2yrs. (2) Upon landing a job, you are determined to work several overtime hours. It's like many things in life, if you put in just a little more work or effort you can improve your current situation.
Moreover, many employers offer tuition reimbursements for employees trying to further their education in their field of work. While working with your associate, you may decide to go further to earn your bachelors/ masters or masters/doctorate all at the expense of your employer. You need not get stuck in student loan debt like many Nigerians I know. I know of folks who took huge sums of student loans to study accounting or media arts etc but can't find a decent paying job upon graduation. This may not be the case for all, but the point is, you should study a course that's in high demand, make money and then pursue your passion. If u r too passionate for your current field of study, pls stick to it.
And u r wrong in saying a vast majority of Nigerians are not 6 figure earners, according to the U.S Census Bureau, Nigerians have the highest number of doctors among all immigrant groups including Indians. Don't underestimate your people.
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by Yoighaman(m): 3:48pm On Dec 25, 2021
Bollinger:


Irrespective or how you arrive the first couple of months are the hardest and that's when you are most vunerable. For me i was in country legally but had to wait 3 months to get my social security. Without that you'll be working under the table, meaning you will be employed by an employer who pays you cash only. What he pays is far less than minimum wage but there's nothing you can do about it because it is illegal. This is the period you need to limit your association with Nigerians. You have to remember, a lot of us are in country illegally, and all they know is how to hustle. They will try to suck you in but you have to resist.

As per the cultural change and racism, your best bet again is to stay away from Nigerians and Black Americans. Mix with people from Ghana, whites and the likes. You'll get acclamatized faster. It's hard either way and only time will get you through it. I have not witnessed any form of racism personally. You'll eventually find out that it's mostly lazy people who complain about racism. I'm not saying it does not exist, but it's few and far in between. Imagine a scenario where a man goes into a store, steals and runs away. He is chased by the police, told to stop, he resists and starts fighting with the cops. He gets shot and every black person screams RACISM. I ask you; does that make sense to you? My wife's clients are mostly white women. If America was that racist would she have those clients? America cares only about what quality service you can provide irrespective of what race you are. If you cannot be beneficial to society then you might as well pull out the race card.

I always advice people to join the army for at least 3 years immediately they arrive in the states. Your life will be so much better if you do. You will hit the ground running and achieve so much more. Nigerians told me not to, that i will be deployed to iraq and afghanistan and most likely die there. True, that could happen. I could also be crossing the street and be hit by a car the next minute as well. I have been deployed 3 times and nothing happened. Here's what you get as a soldier.

1. Citizenship within six months, while others wait 5 years.

2. 100k, free for educational purposes. This can only be used for college only.

3. In addition to that, while serving you get tuition assistance which means they pay for your schooling in active duty or reserve. Which also means you don't have to use the 100k. I'm transfering the 100k to my wife to finish her masters.

4. They also teach you a trade craft when you join the army. I am a software engineer for the army. I did not know squat about it prior to joining. I did a test which would tell if i was trainable and once that was done i got trained and the rest is history.

5. Once you master one craft, you can apply to switch to another one.

6. Free medical insurance. peace of mind

7. Quality life insurance. If i die for whatever reason; in combat or driving my car, my wife gets an instant 100k 24hrs later. A couple of months later she gets 450k and benefits for the rest of her life. The benefits ends when she re marries. I get 100k if anything happens to her.

8. Opportunity to travel. I cannot mention how many countries i have been to free of charge.

9. Opportunity to lead people. The training and opportunity to lead people is unquantifiable. I have over 50 people i teach, coach, mentor and lead. If America was that racist, i would not have the opportunity.

10. First in line for any federal job (you want this) when i decide to get out.

The only negative i have so far is the lack of access to Nigerian food. Considering all the positive though, i think i can live with that.

Wow. This is insightful and interesting.

May God keep you safe always.
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by Luxthetic: 5:05pm On Dec 27, 2021
This beautiful and serene beach looks like Miami but it's in Lagos.


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