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Debate; Is ISIS (islamic State) Islamic? by basilico: 6:10pm On Jul 20, 2015
Is ISIS Islamic.? Are they the true purveyors of Islam untainted and the true followers of Rasullula pbuh SAWS real followers?
Is ISIS following true Islam and Sharia as practiced by prophet Muhammad?If not
Where are they going wrong and misinterpreting the holy Quran.
ISIS kills apostates. Saudi,Boko Haram does the same. Iran does the same. Taliban does the same. Turkey does the same. Bahrain does the same. Al Shabaab Somali does the same.

Whereis ISIS going wrong !
Re: Debate; Is ISIS (islamic State) Islamic? by Hero10001: 6:20pm On Jul 20, 2015
basilico:
Is ISIS Islamic.? Are they the true purveyors of Islam untainted and the true followers of Rasullula pbuh SAWS real followers?
Is ISIS following true Islam and Sharia as practiced by prophet Muhammad?If not
Where are they going wrong and misinterpreting the holy Quran.
ISIS kills apostates. Saudi,Boko Haram does the same. Iran does the same. Taliban does the same. Turkey does the same. Iran does the same. Al Shabaab Somali does the same.

Whereis ISIS going wrong !
gimme one difference btwn isis and moha and i will give you 20 similarities btwn em.
islam= terror.

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Re: Debate; Is ISIS (islamic State) Islamic? by Rilwayne001: 6:29pm On Jul 20, 2015
basilico:
Is ISIS Islamic.? Are they the true purveyors of Islam untainted and the true followers of Rasullula pbuh SAWS real followers?
Is ISIS following true Islam and Sharia as practiced by prophet Muhammad?If not Where are they going wrong and misinterpreting the holy Quran. ISIS kills apostates. Saudi,Boko Haram does the same. Iran does the same. Taliban does the same. Turkey does the same. Bahrain does the same. Al Shabaab Somali does the same. Whereis ISIS going wrong !

If only you are truthful to yourself and ready to embrace the truth, here is a well detailed response for your thread: https://www.nairaland.com/2461053/warped-reasoning-extremist-militants

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Re: Debate; Is ISIS (islamic State) Islamic? by hahn(m): 6:38pm On Jul 20, 2015
Islamic state

A lot of people won't agree though
Re: Debate; Is ISIS (islamic State) Islamic? by basilico: 6:39pm On Jul 20, 2015
Hero10001:

gimme one difference btwn isis and moha and i will give you 20 similarities btwn em.
islam= terror.


Unfortunately the only difference between Moha and ISIS is that the criminal prophet did not have internet to spew his videos of him beheading, raping, taking sex slaves and selling them in the open market like ISIS. ISIS is a salafist movement living exactly the life of prophet Muhammad 1400 years later only that Muhammad never had social media. Khybar the army of Muhammad is coming.figure out why salafists keep shouting this.

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Re: Debate; Is ISIS (islamic State) Islamic? by basilico: 6:44pm On Jul 20, 2015
hahn:
Islamic state

A lot of people won't agree though

What ISIS is doing. practicing exactly what Moha lived for . Killing, raping murdering and promising his jihadist fighters Paradise if they died spreading his new cult.
Boko Haram is following Muhammad lifestyle , emulating him
Making sure no church abounds in our north. Just like the prophet banned any other religion apart from his made up Allah Islam in the middle east.
Re: Debate; Is ISIS (islamic State) Islamic? by wordcat(m): 3:42pm On Jul 21, 2015
Islamic state isn't Islamic but mohammediasm grin

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Re: Debate; Is ISIS (islamic State) Islamic? by Hero10001: 4:22pm On Jul 21, 2015
basilico:



Unfortunately the only difference between Moha and ISIS is that the criminal prophet did not have internet to spew his videos of him beheading, raping, taking sex slaves and selling them in the open market like ISIS. ISIS is a salafist movement living exactly the life of prophet Muhammad 1400 years later only that Muhammad never had social media. Khybar the army of Muhammad is coming.figure out why salafists keep shouting this.
Gbam.
Ahahahahaha!
Saying moha never used internet is like saying he never used IED's, guns and bombs too.
Islamic terror groups are the true followers of moha.

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Re: Debate; Is ISIS (islamic State) Islamic? by dexmond: 4:38pm On Jul 21, 2015
ISIS is Islamic. They have not done anything that the prophet Mohammed did not do. Raping slaves, pillaging, beheading. All kinds of act that the noble prophet did. Both ISIS and the prophet are a threat to humanity.

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Re: Debate; Is ISIS (islamic State) Islamic? by truthman2012(m): 4:59pm On Jul 21, 2015
Rilwayne001:


If only you are truthful to yourself and ready to embrace the truth, here is a well detailed response for your thread: https://www.nairaland.com/2461053/warped-reasoning-extremist-militants

Qur'an (2:193) - "And FIGHT them
until persecution is no more, AND RELIGION BE ONLY FOR ALLAH. But if
they desist, then let there be no
HOSTILITY except against wrong-
doers."

What do ISIL and other islamic terrorist groups do differently from the above quranic injunction?

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Re: Debate; Is ISIS (islamic State) Islamic? by mustymatic(m): 4:06pm On Aug 14, 2015
truthman2012:


Qur'an (2:193) - "And FIGHT them
until persecution is no more, AND RELIGION BE ONLY FOR ALLAH. But if
they desist, then let there be no
HOSTILITY except against wrong-
doers."

What do ISIL and other islamic terrorist groups do differently from the above quranic injunction?

Everything is different smiley
the verse starts with ..and, which is a continuation of the previous one
Start here.
Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 190:
And fight in the Way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress not the limits .Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors. [This Verse is the first one that was revealed in connection with Jihad, but it was supplemented by another (V. 9:36)].
191. And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. 192. But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
193. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers.
truthman2012 I heard you are an old man, don't you think it's high time you be truthful?
clearly you are deceiving... when you call to your religion you be-not deceptive
Re: Debate; Is ISIS (islamic State) Islamic? by parisbookaddict(f): 10:40pm On Aug 14, 2015
mustymatic:

Everything is different smiley
the verse starts with ..and, which is a continuation of the previous one
Start here.
Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 190:
And fight in the Way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress not the limits .Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors. [This Verse is the first one that was revealed in connection with Jihad, but it was supplemented by another (V. 9:36)].
191. And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. 192. But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
193. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers.
truthman2012 I heard you are an old man, don't you think it's high time you be truthful?
clearly you are deceiving... when you call to your religion you be-not deceptive

Al taqiyya


[size=13pt] Tabari IX:69
"He who believes in Allah and His
Messenger has protected his life and possessions
from us.
As for those who disbelieve, we will fight them
forever in
the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter
to us."


Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger
of Allah. And those with him are hard
(ruthless) against the disbelievers and
merciful among themselves"


ISHAQ:587 "OUR ONSLAUGHT WILL NOT BE A WEAK FALTERING
AFFAIR. WE SHALL FIGHT AS LONG AS WE LIVE. WE WILL FIGHT UNTIL
YOU TURN TO ISLAM, HUMBLY SEEKING REFUGE. WE WILL FIGHT
NOT CARING WHOM WE MEET. WE WILL FIGHT WHETHER WE
DESTROY ANCIENT HOLDINGS OR NEWLY GOTTEN GAINS. WE HAVE
CUT OFF EVERY OPPONENT'S NOSE AND EARS WITH OUR SWORDS.
WE HAVE DRIVEN THEM VIOLENTLY BEFORE US AT THE COMMAND
OF ALLAH AND ISLAM. WE WILL FIGHT UNTIL OUR RELIGION IS
ESTABLISHED. AND WE WILL PLUNDER THEM FOR THEY MUST SUFFER
DISGRACE."


QURAN (47:3-4) - "THOSE WHO REJECT ALLAH FOLLOW
VANITIES, WHILE THOSE WHO BELIEVE FOLLOW THE
TRUTH FROM THEIR LORD. THUS DOES ALLAH SET FORTH
FORM MEN THEIR LESSONS BY SIMILITUDE.
THEREFORE WHEN YOU MEET IN BATTLE THOSE WHO
DISBELIEVE, THEN SMITE THE NECKS UNTIL WHEN
YOU HAVE OVERCOME THEM, THEN MAKE (THEM)
PRISONERS" [/size]
Re: Debate; Is ISIS (islamic State) Islamic? by mustymatic(m): 11:39am On Aug 15, 2015
parisbookaddict:


Al taqiyya


[size=13pt] Tabari IX:69
"He who believes in Allah and His
Messenger has protected his life and possessions
from us.
As for those who disbelieve, we will fight them
forever in
the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter
to us."


Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger
of Allah. And those with him are hard
(ruthless) against the disbelievers and
merciful among themselves"


ISHAQ:587 "OUR ONSLAUGHT WILL NOT BE A WEAK FALTERING
AFFAIR. WE SHALL FIGHT AS LONG AS WE LIVE. WE WILL FIGHT UNTIL
YOU TURN TO ISLAM, HUMBLY SEEKING REFUGE. WE WILL FIGHT
NOT CARING WHOM WE MEET. WE WILL FIGHT WHETHER WE
DESTROY ANCIENT HOLDINGS OR NEWLY GOTTEN GAINS. WE HAVE
CUT OFF EVERY OPPONENT'S NOSE AND EARS WITH OUR SWORDS.
WE HAVE DRIVEN THEM VIOLENTLY BEFORE US AT THE COMMAND
OF ALLAH AND ISLAM. WE WILL FIGHT UNTIL OUR RELIGION IS
ESTABLISHED. AND WE WILL PLUNDER THEM FOR THEY MUST SUFFER
DISGRACE."


QURAN (47:3-4) - "THOSE WHO REJECT ALLAH FOLLOW
VANITIES, WHILE THOSE WHO BELIEVE FOLLOW THE
TRUTH FROM THEIR LORD. THUS DOES ALLAH SET FORTH
FORM MEN THEIR LESSONS BY SIMILITUDE.
THEREFORE WHEN YOU MEET IN BATTLE THOSE WHO
DISBELIEVE, THEN SMITE THE NECKS UNTIL WHEN
YOU HAVE OVERCOME THEM, THEN MAKE (THEM)
PRISONERS" [/size]
What's your point?
Those people you quoted, are those verses or what?
Do you want som pastors ish? grin
Re: Debate; Is ISIS (islamic State) Islamic? by orisa37: 6:55pm On Aug 15, 2015
ISIS is not Islamic. It is bokoharam, mother of horus, the man/woman with the falcon(Atioro) head.

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