truthman2012:

Sorry, it is John 18:6

So why was he running around in the first place

truthman2013:


So why was he running around in the first place

truthman2012:


Where?

"GOD" ON THE RUN "God"

Was Panic-Stricken: "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him." (John, 7:1)

"God" Walked in Fear of the Jews: "Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death. Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews." (John, 11:53-54)

"God" Has Shown a Clean Pair of Heels: "Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand." (John, 10:39)

"God" Fled in Disguise: "Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by." (John, 8:59)

truthman2012:
[s]To to us a child is born, to
us a son is given, and the
government will be on his
shoulders. And he will be
called Wonderful Counselor,
MIGHTY GOD, Everlasting
Father, Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6).

This was a prophecy hundreds of years before Jesus came and nobody disputed this before Muhammad was born many years later.

Prophets after prophets came with none of them disputing it except Muhammad, showing his prophethood was not from the God of bible prophets.[/s]

truthman2013:
Ina kwana

THE BIRTH OF "GOD"

"God" was created from the seed of David: "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the SEED of David according to the flesh." (Romans, 1:3)

"God" was the fruit of the loins of David: "Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne." (Acts, 2:30)

The Ancestors of "God": "The generations of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham." (Matthew, 1:1)

The Sex of "God": "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called Jesus." (Luke, 2:21)

How Mary Conceived and Delivered "God". Mary conceived Jesus like any other woman: "The days were accomplished that she should be delivered," (Luke, 2:6) which means that she went through all the normal stages of pregnancy. Nor was her delivery any different from other expectant mothers: "And she being with child cried, travelling in birth, and pained to be delivered." (Revelation, 12:2)

"God" Sucked The Paps of a Woman: "And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked." (Luke, 11:27)

The Country of Origin of "God": "Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king. (Matthew, 2:1)

The Occupation of "God": "Jesus was a carpenter by trade." (Mark, 6:3), "and the son of a carpenter." (Matthew, 13:55)

The Transport of "God": "Behold, thy king cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass." (Matthew, 21:5) "And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon." (John, 12:14)

The Wining and Dining of "God": "The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners." (Matthew, 11:9; Luke, 7:34)

The Poverty of "God": "And Jesus saith unto him, the foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head." (Matthew, 8:20)

TBC.

parisbookaddict:


Wow..
its a pity that u fail to understand even the basic prophecies about Jesus and why he came as a descendant of David(David's seed).

You're sounding pained, the underlined shows the effect of what you do to Muslims. You quote the verses of the Quran and hadith off context, when the same is done to you, you shout "wow". Address the OP my friend, why did your god run, suck paps, drink shekpe or ogogoro l?!

Unlike mohammed who started concocting things from his convoluted mind and has only himself as a witness.........

On the contra, the prophecies about Christ and his Father, The God of abraham issac and Jacob stretches centuries and has tonnes of prophets and apostles as witnesses eg isaiah, David, samuel, job, amos, moses, mark, paul etc .

If u don't understand this basic premise and prelude of events about christ then u are truly ignorant.

U even mock the humble life of christ.

But you're free to mock my God and Prophet right?! If I slap you ehn! You go teleport go Biafra.

[s]Not everyone is like mohammed the rich warlord who ravaged lands and women. Stole from wealthy jews, amassed war booty , extorted jizyah and robbed caravans.[/s]

Mention me when u have done some homework.

Jeromejnr:


Abeg, don't waste your time answering these people.

Even Jesus did not reason out logic to people to try to convert them. Instead He depended on His Father.

Rilwayne001

Was Panic-Stricken: "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him." (John, 7:1)

"God" Walked in Fear of the Jews: "Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death. Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews." (John, 11:53-54)

"God" Has Shown a Clean Pair of Heels: "Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand." (John, 10:39

"God" Fled in Disguise: "Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by." (John, 8:59)

truthman2012:


You always have nothing reasonable to say. What point did you make in that post? So you always do.

parisbookaddict:

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Wow..
its a nice that u understand the false prophecies about Jesus and why he came as a descendant of David(David's seed).

If i don't understand the basic premise and prelude of events about christ then i am truly ignorant.

i thought i am the follower of christ.

Not everyone is like paul the liar who deceived me and many christians.

Mention me when i have done my homework.
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lexiconkabir:
refute the op or accept that your religion is baseless!

Ngasky:
from the above one can deduct that Christians believe Jesus was a normal human being by birth so what is so special about him if had both father and mother as depicted in romans 1:3 and acts 2:30 and talking about his [b]parents[\b] does that mean Mary alone or who and who?
i always thought Christians believe Jesus as a god because of the unusual birth circumstances (no paternal father ) now if this is wrong then why does he became God the son?
lastly please i am confused what is the stand of Christianity on alcohol and drunkenness because almost all the verses i came across consider it as evil or am i missing something?

truthman2012:


Which OP?

Already totally refuted. What else do you still want to hear? Read through all my posts here.

truthman2012:


I told you Jesus arrestors fell without him touching them, what reason was there for him to panic? Sometimes he would pass in their midst and they would not see him, what reason was there for him to panic? That should be enough to tell you he surrendered himself to fulfill his mission.

He just didn't want to be distracted. He escaped because he was yet to finish his mission.

He went through them without anyone seeing him, that is a display of power. He could have done so for his life time if he didn't want to surrender himself.

One of the problems of you muslim is that you lack good understanding of spiritual operations.

truthman2012:


Which OP?

Already totally refuted. What else do you still want to hear? Read through all my posts here.

...ewoo. which kain lie be this? what did you refute?
The major point of this thread is to show you that Jesus (your god) is a normal human being like myself and you. Though he being a Prophet of God is closer to God than us, but THAT DOESN'T MAKE HIM GOD ALMIGHTY, so far you are yet to prove otherwise, just ur usual evading of question(s)

..truthman..

truthman2013:


...ewoo. which kain lie be this? what did you refute?
The major point of this thread is to show you that Jesus (your god) is a normal human being like myself and you. Though he being a Prophet of God is closer to God than us, but THAT DOESN'T MAKE HIM GOD ALMIGHTY, so far you are yet to prove otherwise, just ur usual evading of question(s)

..truthman..

truthman2012:


Ignorance!

Jesus is a Spirit from God (Quran 21;91). The Spirit of God is God.

Your spirit is you.

Jesus is the word of God (Quran 3:45).

You are what you say. You cannot separate a person from his word.

lexiconkabir:
are you saying jesus is more than a prophet? lets see what deutronomy 18:15 tells us "the lord your God will raise up a PROPHET like ME from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him"(new american standard bible). firstly we know moses is the one speaking, from here we can get two points, moses said "A PROPHET"(as we muslims believe) and he said "LIKE ME" do you believe that moses is God or son of God? moses was an ordinary human.

truthman2012:


Am glad you have accepted that the passage is not the prophecy about Muhammad.

Jesus was a prophet because he came in human form but God in the Spirit.

truthman2012:


Ignorance!

Jesus is a Spirit from God (Quran 21;91). The Spirit of God is God.

Your spirit is you.

Jesus is the word of God (Quran 3:45).

You are what you say. You cannot separate a person from his word.

truthman2012:


@ lexiconkabir

All you are doing is arguing against the quran. Unless the above quran is incorrect Jesus is more than a prophet.

lexiconkabir:
i have talked about this, check your mentions, you say 100% of the quran, are not God's words(God forbid), unlike my belief about the bible, but still you go to my quran and pick things about jesus, isnt that deceptive dont you think? now how can muhammad know so much about jesus without seeing him? like i suggested in your other mention, read these verses in the quran yourself completely, with the mind of "i want to know the truth" you will find out that these verses talks about isa/yeshua(jesus to you) as a mere MESSENGER of God!

truthman2012:


You can believe what you like but the truth remains no other prophets had the attributes of Jesus both in the bible and quran.

truthman2012:


Ignorance!
Jesus is a Spirit from God (Quran 21;91). The Spirit of God is God.
Your spirit is you.

So to cap your delusion, are you saying that Jesus, when he was alive doesn't have flesh and bones Think hard before you answer this.

Jesus is the word of God (Quran 3:45).

You are what you say. You cannot separate a person from his word.

truthman2012:


You can believe what you like but the truth remains no other prophets had the attributes of Jesus both in the bible and quran.

lexiconkabir:
does that mean moses lied(God forbid!) to have said "LIKE ME" which means the same attributes?

truthman2012:


Muslims are carnal and cannot understand the things of the Spirit. It is a pity.

estijaz:
Please Muslim brodas and sistas,ansa dis question,is d word of God d creator or a creation?I don't nid long stories,just pick one n den I can analyse my point

truthman2013:


trust me, truthman2012 won't be coming back to this thread. And if he actually did, he will certainly evade all questions directed to him.

..truthman..