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Re: Music In Islam by Rilwayne001: 5:10pm On Jul 31, 2015
tintingz:
The Quran is the final say of what we should do.

Any hadiths that doesn't follows with the Quran is a No for me.

There are fabricated hadiths and authentic hadiths.

So when I said hadith is not Allah's word it not direct from Allah.

How come we shared the same view?

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Re: Music In Islam by asumo12: 5:21pm On Jul 31, 2015
Kenneylee:


GOOD! Hope he explain further that the female will only sing among her co-female and must not use her voice to call the attention of the men? ..... and further that its not all this hip-hop and hip-down rubbish? moreso, a female muslim is not even suppose to be noisy!

Yes to all the above question....

But they can be lousy "if" is on festive season!!!

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Re: Music In Islam by tintingz(m): 5:22pm On Jul 31, 2015
Rilwayne001:


How come we shared the same view?
Lol, we are brothers na.

And where is Lanrexlan? He's another brother of mine. grin
Re: Music In Islam by Rilwayne001: 5:32pm On Jul 31, 2015
tintingz:
Lol, we are brothers na.
And where is Lanrexlan? He's another brother of mine. grin
Yeah, I know. I guess the Chief is busy.
Re: Music In Islam by mustymatic(m): 5:38pm On Jul 31, 2015
OgologoDimkpa:
But how come they usually do praise and worship in NASFAT or are they not Muslims
Isn't that hypocrisy?
Make una dey deceive una self embarassed

As for me, spiritual praise and worship delights God and brings down His glory.
Abi....Jesus neva sing nana sad
Re: Music In Islam by tintingz(m): 5:40pm On Jul 31, 2015
Rilwayne001:


Yeah, I know. I guess the Chief is busy.
Yeah, he's busy with studies.

We use to chat on WhatsApp.
smiley

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Re: Music In Islam by Rilwayne001: 5:43pm On Jul 31, 2015
tintingz:
Yeah, he's busy with studies.
We use to chat on WhatsApp.
smiley
That's cool cool ma regards to him.
Re: Music In Islam by codedWays: 6:29pm On Jul 31, 2015
We are better-off without music in general,but nasheeds are permissible,because their aim is to hymn Allah's praises and remembrance. BewAre of nasheeds with musical instruments though. may Allah help us.

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Re: Music In Islam by grownaira: 6:35pm On Jul 31, 2015
tintingz:
The Quran is the final say of what we should do.

Any hadiths that doesn't follows with the Quran is a No for me.

There are fabricated hadiths and authentic hadiths.

So when I said hadith is not Allah's word it not direct from Allah.

nobody said you should hold unto any hadith that doesn't follow the Qur'an. in fact the rule of thumb is that any hadith that goes against the Qur'an is fabricated and should be rejected.

it is now left for you to tell us how the hadith the op made reference to, and other numerous hadith which he didn't mention goes against the Qur'an.
Re: Music In Islam by kennyosein(m): 6:48pm On Jul 31, 2015
tintingz:
The Quran is the final say of what we should do.

Any hadiths that doesn't follows with the Quran is a No for me.

There are fabricated hadiths and authentic hadiths.

So when I said hadith is not Allah's word it not direct from Allah.

O Bro know that the hadith's itself is Revelation Allah said in the Qur'aan:
“Nor does he speak of (his own) desire. It is
only a Revelation revealed” [al-Najm 53:3-4]

“Say (O Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa sallam):
“I warn you only by the Revelation (from Allah
and not by the opinion of the religious scholars
and others). But the deaf (who follow the
religious scholars and others blindly) will not
hear the call, (even) when they are warned [i.e.
one should follow only the Quran and the
Sunnah (legal ways, orders, acts of worship, and
the statements of Prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wa sallam, as the Companions
of the Prophet radiallahu anhum did)]” [al-
Anbiya’ 21:45]

The Prophet's said (peace be upon him) So whoever
turns away from my Sunnah (i.e., my way) is not
from me.” [Al-Bukhaari & Muslim]

Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him)
reported: Messenger of Allah ( ﷺ) said,
"Everyone of my Ummah will enter Jannah except
those who refuse". He was asked: "Who will
refuse?" He (ﷺ ) said, "Whoever
obeys me, shall enter Jannah, and whosoever
disobeys me, refuses to (enter Jannah)".
[Al- Bukhari].
In another narration the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him): “I have been given the Qur’aan
and something like it along with it”...

"Know that Islam is the Sunnah and the Sunnah is Islam. Imaam al-Barabahaaree in his book
Sharhus-Sunnah.

It is essential to note that there is only one difference between it and the Quran, which is that the Quran is the word of Allah, may He be exalted, which was revealed
verbatim to the Prophet (peace and blessings of
Allah be upon him), whereas the Sunnah may
not be the words of Allah, rather it is only His
Revelation, so it need not necessarily come to
us verbatim, but the meaning of it comes to us.

May Allah save us from misguidance.
Re: Music In Islam by freshr4real(m): 7:08pm On Jul 31, 2015
Amin
Re: Music In Islam by tintingz(m): 7:24pm On Jul 31, 2015
kennyosein:


O Bro know that the hadith's itself is Revelation Allah said in the Qur'aan:
“Nor does he speak of (his own) desire. It is
only a Revelation revealed” [al-Najm 53:3-4]

“Say (O Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa sallam):
“I warn you only by the Revelation (from Allah
and not by the opinion of the religious scholars
and others). But the deaf (who follow the
religious scholars and others blindly) will not
hear the call, (even) when they are warned [i.e.
one should follow only the Quran and the
Sunnah (legal ways, orders, acts of worship, and
the statements of Prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wa sallam, as the Companions
of the Prophet radiallahu anhum did)]” [al-
Anbiya’ 21:45]

The Prophet's said (peace be upon him) So whoever
turns away from my Sunnah (i.e., my way) is not
from me.” [Al-Bukhaari & Muslim]

Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him)
reported: Messenger of Allah ( ﷺ) said,
"Everyone of my Ummah will enter Jannah except
those who refuse". He was asked: "Who will
refuse?" He (ﷺ ) said, "Whoever
obeys me, shall enter Jannah, and whosoever
disobeys me, refuses to (enter Jannah)".
[Al- Bukhari].
In another narration the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him): “I have been given the Qur’aan
and something like it along with it”...

"Know that Islam is the Sunnah and the Sunnah is Islam. Imaam al-Barabahaaree in his book
Sharhus-Sunnah.

It is essential to note that there is only one difference between it and the Quran, which is that the Quran is the word of Allah, may He be exalted, which was revealed
verbatim to the Prophet (peace and blessings of
Allah be upon him), whereas the Sunnah may
not be the words of Allah, rather it is only His
Revelation, so it need not necessarily come to
us verbatim, but the meaning of it comes to us.

May Allah save us from misguidance.
The revelation mentioned in that verse is the Quran.

And did I said I don't accept hadiths?

Go back and read my post.

There are fabricated and authentic hadith, any hadith that doesn't follow with the Quran is a no for me.

Hadiths are not words of Allah nor revelation from Allah, they're the actions and saying of the Prophet (SA) which indeed must follow the Quran behind and not against the Quran words.

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Re: Music In Islam by tintingz(m): 7:36pm On Jul 31, 2015
grownaira:


nobody said you should hold unto any hadith that doesn't follow the Qur'an. in fact the rule of thumb is that any hadith that goes against the Qur'an is fabricated and should be rejected.

it is now left for you to tell us how the hadith the op made reference to, and other numerous hadith which he didn't mention goes against the Qur'an.
OK, The OP said the Prophet(SA) prohibits singing what if I post an hadith where the Prophet(SA) didn't stop Aisha(RA) and some women from singing?. undecided

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Re: Music In Islam by tintingz(m): 7:46pm On Jul 31, 2015
Rilwayne001:


That's cool cool ma regards to him.
OK boss smiley

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Re: Music In Islam by kennyosein(m): 8:34pm On Jul 31, 2015
tintingz:
The revelation mentioned in that verse is the Quran.

And did I said I don't accept hadiths?

Go back and read my post.

There are fabricated and authentic hadith, any hadith that doesn't follow with the Quran is a no for me.

Hadiths are not words of Allah nor revelation from Allah, they the actions and saying of the Prophet (SA) which indeed must follow the Quran behind and not against the Quran words.
Yes they are daif, mawḍū hadith's but still the sayings and actions of the Prophet's are not His (peace be upon him) freewill, it was an inspiration from his Lord. All authentic hadith's are revelation, and whether it aligns with the Qur'aan or not, can not be determine by your intellect.
Re: Music In Islam by grownaira: 11:18pm On Jul 31, 2015
tintingz:
OK, The OP said the Prophet(SA) prohibits singing what if I post an hadith where the Prophet(SA) didn't stop Aisha(RA) and some women from singing?. undecided

That hadith sure exist, and it is restricted to women on certain occasions.

Let me remind u also that what is prohibited is singing that is accompanied by sound instruments. But singing alone without sound instrument is absolutely lawful.
Re: Music In Islam by grownaira: 11:21pm On Jul 31, 2015
tintingz:
The revelation mentioned in that verse is the Quran.

And did I said I don't accept hadiths?

Go back and read my post.

There are fabricated and authentic hadith, any hadith that doesn't follow with the Quran is a no for me.

Hadiths are not words of Allah nor revelation from Allah, they the actions and saying of the Prophet (SA) which indeed must follow the Quran behind and not against the Quran words.

In no way does that verse permits music whatsoever. I repeat, check your tafsir.
Re: Music In Islam by Empiree: 12:06am On Aug 01, 2015
Rilwayne001:


Surah Ghafir, Verse 55:
Then have patience (O Muhammad). Lo! the promise of Allah is true. And ask forgiveness of thy sin, and hymn the praise of thy Lord at fall of night and in the early hours
@underlined sounds like dhikr. Well, issue of music is no longer issue as far as I am concern. Haram music are those modern music we now have today filled with fawaish(faisha).

Music with dhikr or remembrance of Allah are not forbidden as many scholars pointed out.

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Re: Music In Islam by grownaira: 7:12am On Aug 01, 2015
Empiree:
@underlined sounds like dhikr. Well, issue of music is no longer issue as far as I am concern. Haram music are those modern music we now have today filled with fawaish(faisha).

Music with dhikr or remembrance of Allah are not forbidden as many scholars pointed out.

At the bolded, I guess you mean that which isn't accompanied by sound instruments right?
Re: Music In Islam by Nobody: 6:58pm On Aug 01, 2015
Rilwayne001:


This should settle the OP http://www.islamawareness.net/Music/prohibited.html

even d holy prophet was welcomed wit song n bandiri in medinah.also heard shaving of eyebrow is haram.sumtyms i dnt listen 2dis hadiths,dy r unbearable

Allah will guide me

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Re: Music In Islam by Rilwayne001: 7:06pm On Aug 01, 2015
Bukiminaj:


even d holy prophet was welcomed wit song n bandiri in medinah. also heard shaving of eyebrow is haram.sumtyms i dnt listen 2dis hadiths,dy r unbearable

Allah will guide me

Hmmmm..the bolded, indeed, is a reminder.
Re: Music In Islam by grownaira: 7:47pm On Aug 01, 2015
Bukiminaj:


even d holy prophet was welcomed wit song n bandiri in medinah.also heard shaving of eyebrow is haram.sumtyms i dnt listen 2dis hadiths,dy r unbearable

Allah will guide me

Sometimes you don't listing to hadiths, but you listened and believed "controversial" stories (of songs and bandiri), which majority of the Ulama proved that it is fabricated.

Well I want to believe that if I prove to you that the Qur'an also bans music you will find it less unbearable, and work towards freeing yourself from it's claws.

As I type this, I can sing to you by heart more than 100 musics of several musicians (jarule, cisco, clndn, crgdvd, usher, b2m, mcanthn, .... name them). Only God knows how I am still struggling to "absolutely" free myself from that evil.

May Allah forgive and assist us all.

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Re: Music In Islam by Nobody: 9:20pm On Aug 01, 2015
grownaira:


Sometimes you don't listing to hadiths, but you listened and believed "controversial" stories (of songs and bandiri), which majority of the Ulama proved that it is fabricated.

Well I want to believe that if I prove to you that the Qur'an also bans music you will find it less unbearable, and work towards freeing yourself from it's claws.

As I type this, I can sing to you by heart more than 100 musics of several musicians (jarule, cisco, clndn, crgdvd, usher, b2m, mcanthn, .... name them). Only God knows how I am still struggling to "absolutely" free myself from that evil.

May Allah forgive and assist us all.

even d call to prayer is melodic to d ears.its nt jz a normal voice
i sing to allah n d holy prophet, n im sure allah wnt av any choice dan 2listen me

let worship HIM,we belong to Him n nobdy else.our voice,tears,lafta r all His
Re: Music In Islam by grownaira: 9:56pm On Aug 01, 2015
Bukiminaj:


even d call to prayer is melodic to d ears.its nt jz a normal voice
i sing to allah n d holy prophet, n im sure allah wnt av any choice dan 2listen me

let worship HIM,we belong to Him n nobdy else.our voice,tears,lafta r all His

is the call to prayer accompanied by drums, pianos, flutes, etc?

it seems you don't get the point bn made hia. The point is any song/melody that is accompanied by those sound instruments is haram, while any which is bereft of those sound instruments is halal. Even a companion of the prophet do sing in the masjid, song bereft of sound instruments ofcos.

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