victorazy:


So na Islam!!!

Go and take ur drugs

shininglite:
"I would end boko haram in 2months if elected" - po0hari

Wailing continues

Yujin:
No one seems to notice that since the emergence of buhari shekau simply disappeared. How can he appear in a video without sending insulting and warning messages to the president as was his custom during gej's era? Could it be true that he was the actual person killed during that famous konduga battle such that creating a video with him mentioning buhari was an impossibility? Either way one thing is certain: so far boko haram has not yet sent any direct message to buhari. Could there be any reason for this?

We that are in maiduri, knew that nothing like shekau. The 1 used to appear b4 came ra is scam either cos of the irresponsibility of the former government or at some extent the sponsors of the group (BH). He jst disappear as his pay master no more there, or cos no more working conspiracies, as BH killed, and destroyed and inflicted damages to us.

YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THINKING RIGHT HERE,I TELL YOOU,ITS NOT BOKO BOYS KILLING ITS OWN PEOPLE,ITS NIGERIA GOVT,SINCE THEY WONT GRANT THEM WHAT THEYWANT,MUST THE SOUTH CRUSADER BE WITH THE ISLAMIC NORTH?CORE NORTH WNT THIS DEADLY AMALGAMATION TO END YET NIGERIAN GOVTT WANT THEM TO STAYPUT BY FORCE.=hansad post=36550696]I

How long shall we be on this road of deception? Who has defeated the Taliban? Not even the nearly one decade of Western forces with their fire-power.

Solution: The 12 northern states indirectly demanded a new country when they adopted sharia criminal laws. Create an Islamic Caliphate country for the 12 northern sharia states - as they indirectly demanded; that ends Boko Haram violence immediately.


It's no point holding Nigerians from the south of Nigeria hostage in one Nigeria where Islamic extremists from the north reign.[/quote]

toopsy22:
art or ACT... they could be.in chad, cameroon ...
if only there is something that can trace their location via the video..

ok oooh.

Teekrayne:
....... Bros, to be candidly candid, I love your idiosyncrasy!!! I love the fact that out of your schedule, you single handedly figured out a precious time to embark on that research!! I love the fact that you were able to echo your view as regards the situation on ground without resorting to making any form of derogatory statement! We need pipu like u on this platform.... However, Critics as usual apply ‘cut and choose’ approach with regards to this passage (Quran 2:191). They only quote, “And kill them wherever you find them…(2:191). However, when we read the passage in its context (2:190-195) it says opposite what they portray of the verse.

Quran 2:190 – 195

2:190 Fight in the way of God those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. God does not like transgressors.
2:191 And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah [Persecution] is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
2:192 And if they cease, then indeed, God is Forgiving and Merciful.
2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah [Persecution] and [until] worship is for God. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.
2:194 [Fighting in] the sacred month is for [aggression committed in] the sacred month, and for [all] violations is legal retribution. So whoever has assaulted you, then assault him in the same way that he has assaulted you. And fear God and know that God is with those who fear Him.
2:195 And spend in the way of God and do not throw [yourselves] with your [own] hands into destruction [by refraining]. And do good; indeed, God loves the doers of good.

It’s important whenever one reads a Quranic verse, to read it in its context. As you have read, critics only quote the part which suites them, they isolate previous verses and the ones after. When the passage is examined in context, it is clear that nowhere does it sanction the killing of innocent people. From verse 2:190 to 2:195, when read, Allah makes it evident to fight those only who fight them, fighting in self-defence.

Another thing critics love to do with the passage is, change the Arabic word’s meaning. Example, the Arabic word ‘Fitna’ used in 2:191 and 2:193, Islamophobes have translated the word as ‘disbelief’. So, when it’s read in that perspective, the passage is implying to fight to those who are disbelievers, just because of their religion. This again when we examine it, it will turn out to be a lie. The Arabic word ‘Fitnah’ means ‘persecution’, ‘corruption’, ‘sedition’. But when the word ‘Fitnah’ is used in verse 2:191 and 2:193 it means ‘persecution’.

I am interested in debating this with you and to learn where possible. So let's begin.

Arabic words have several meanings and the same word can be used in different verses and mean different things. However, from your statement above it is clear that u depend on pro islamic propaganda sources for information.

Look, I have once been deceived as well, so I don't blame u, you have to be very careful.

Fitnah is not persecution like u said. Infact fitnah is frequently associated with the english words "mischief" or "corruption" and not persecution.

Here let me give u an explanation of the word as explained by a muslim in a forum.

FITNAH
Best Answer: Dear,
Peace be upon you.
In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most
Merciful.
Lets go to the terminology of "FITNAH".
Means:- libel, slander, defamation, published false
statement that damages a person's reputation;
act of publishing it; crime of uttering this.
In Islam it goes more to attack the good
reputation or defame.
The "FITNAH" in the Islamic religion goes to a
unmarried couple when they were together
without the present of Muhrim of the girl/lady/
woman. This will lead to Khalwat, though nothing
of the kind was done. Though they are sincere.
The accusation/allegation/thing alleged/
imputation on sexuality although it was not real.
Therefore avoid being together as couple in any
lonely places at in any situation or condition.
Islam means submitting one own self to Al-Mighty
God Allah Subhanahu Wata'ala is "THE FAITH" of
which Muhammad is the Prophet of Allah.
Muslims believe in ONE God, Al-Mighty God Allah
Subhanahu Wata'ala the creator, the governor of
the universe. Creates Jinns and mankind to
worship HIM and make mankind as Agent
(Khalifah) on earth. Only one God. Allah is One.
the Eternal God. HE begot none, nor was HE
begotten. None is equal to HIM.
Wabillahhitaufiq Walhidayah Wassalamu'alaikum
Warahmatullahhi Wabarakatuh.
AHMAD FUAD Harun


_______________________
So this muslim disagrees with you as well as the facts about the translation and how they fit the verse.


I agree with you that some passages say that muslims should KILL only when u are FOUGHT or attacked by non Muslims. Infact mohammed said an eye for an eye. Here are some abridged verses instructing revenge or violence in relation to fitnah;

Quran 5:45: "And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed such as wrong-doers."


Qur'an 2:191-193
And kill them wherever you find them and turn them out from where they have turned you out

Qur'an 3:151
Soon shall we cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that they joined companion with Allah

Qur'an 8:89
And fight with them until there is no more fitna(disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah


This is in direct violation of the new commands Jesus told us christians to live by. The Lord said
Forgive, even if offended several times a day. An Eye for and eye is obsolete. But mohammed came 600years later sAying, "hey wait, allah says go ahead and retaliate but in equal measure"

Many verses contradict ur defense of mohammed eg,

Q9:29:
"Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low."

This is a command to fight christians till they converT, or pay jizyah and are humbled. There are several verses like this.

There is no bible passage asking prophets to fight people till they are forced to become christians or practise Judaism. God gave humanS free will but mohammeD doesn't understand that. Hence he says kill and fight them till they submit.

I have studied islam too much that I can NOT be decieved by al taqiyaah and cherrypicking of verses by muslim apologists and non-muslim islamophiles.

Teekrayne:
....... Bros, to be candidly candid, I love your idiosyncrasy!!! I love the fact that out of your schedule, you single handedly figured out a precious time to embark on that research!! I love the fact that you were able to echo your view as regards the situation on ground without resorting to making any form of derogatory statement! We need pipu like u on this platform.... However, Critics as usual apply ‘cut and choose’ approach with regards to this passage (Quran 2:191). They only quote, “And kill them wherever you find them…(2:191). However, when we read the passage in its context (2:190-195) it says opposite what they portray of the verse.

Quran 2:190 – 195

2:190 Fight in the way of God those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. God does not like transgressors.
2:191 And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah [Persecution] is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
2:192 And if they cease, then indeed, God is Forgiving and Merciful.
2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah [Persecution] and [until] worship is for God. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.
2:194 [Fighting in] the sacred month is for [aggression committed in] the sacred month, and for [all] violations is legal retribution. So whoever has assaulted you, then assault him in the same way that he has assaulted you. And fear God and know that God is with those who fear Him.
2:195 And spend in the way of God and do not throw [yourselves] with your [own] hands into destruction [by refraining]. And do good; indeed, God loves the doers of good.

It’s important whenever one reads a Quranic verse, to read it in its context. As you have read, critics only quote the part which suites them, they isolate previous verses and the ones after. When the passage is examined in context, it is clear that nowhere does it sanction the killing of innocent people. From verse 2:190 to 2:195, when read, Allah makes it evident to fight those only who fight them, fighting in self-defence.

Another thing critics love to do with the passage is, change the Arabic word’s meaning. Example, the Arabic word ‘Fitna’ used in 2:191 and 2:193, Islamophobes have translated the word as ‘disbelief’. So, when it’s read in that perspective, the passage is implying to fight to those who are disbelievers, just because of their religion. This again when we examine it, it will turn out to be a lie. The Arabic word ‘Fitnah’ means ‘persecution’, ‘corruption’, ‘sedition’. But when the word ‘Fitnah’ is used in verse 2:191 and 2:193 it means ‘persecution’.

In addition

Here is a favorite verse called the "no compulsion of religion verse" used by muslim apologists to decieve people about islam.

Qu'ran 5:32, “...If anyone slays a person, it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.”

But this is what the verse really says

Qu'ran 5:32-34, "On that account: Therefore we prescribed for the Children of Israel that who so slays a soul not to retaliate for a soul slain, nor for corruption done in the land, shall be as if he had slain mankind altogether; and who so gives life to a soul, shall be as if he has given life to mankind altogether. [size=13pt] Our Messengers have already come to them with the clear signs; then many of them thereafter commit excesses in the earth.
This is the recompense of those who fight against God and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be SLAUGHTERED, or CRUCIFIED, or their hands and feet shall alternately be STRUCK OFF; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement,
except for such as repent, before you have power over them. So know you that God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate." [/size]


*** Notice how you can slay a person if the person spreads corruption in the land or as some translations call it, "mischief". This "corruption in the land" or "mischief" can mean anything such as Preaching the Gospel of Christ, making Muslims uncomfortable by questioning the Qu'ran or Muhammed, drawing Mohammed, supporting western education etc This has therefore been an excused used by Jihadists like BokoHaram, ISIS, Hamas, hezbollah, Al shabba, Alqueda etc to murder, kill and destroy.


My problem with the argument u made about misinterpretation of the arabic verses above is that one requires super esoteric exegetical skills to decipher the "true" message of "benignancy and mercy" in the Quran(if there is any), of course such an effort would completely defeat the quran's claim of being a message for all of mankind, hence, the quran becomes useless and a lie.
______________
Also remember the quran in use today is a heavily edited version. Caliph uthman burnt thousands of contradictory qurans and hence several passages in todays quran are ambiguous (and with little meaning) unless u go to the hadiths to understand the fuller context. Perhaps uthman destroyed the original quran containing context of several of those stories. So much for the quran being uncorruptable. _______________
However this has not stopped countless moderate islamic scholars from trying to "crack" the meanings of the violent verses that litter the quran and hence make the quran passages peaceful. Others, like the extremists have less patience. The jihadists (mostly middle east arabic speaking muslims) have taken the meanings of the quran as literal as it is written and have wages jihad and killing countless people for 1400 years.

Something designed to be a message for mankind and for all times (as the quran claims) must be, above all other things, clear and unambiguous, not least when it supposedly comes from the omniscient creator who must necessarily know how to communicate with its creation.

parisbookaddict:


In addition

Here is a favorite verse called the "no compulsion of religion verse" used by muslim apologists to decieve people about islam.

Qu'ran 5:32, “...If anyone slays a person, it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.”

But this is what the verse really says

Qu'ran 5:32-34, "On that account: Therefore we prescribed for the Children of Israel that who so slays a soul not to retaliate for a soul slain, nor for corruption done in the land, shall be as if he had slain mankind altogether; and who so gives life to a soul, shall be as if he has given life to mankind altogether. [size=13pt] Our Messengers have already come to them with the clear signs; then many of them thereafter commit excesses in the earth.
This is the recompense of those who fight against God and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be SLAUGHTERED, or CRUCIFIED, or their hands and feet shall alternately be STRUCK OFF; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement,
except for such as repent, before you have power over them. So know you that God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate." [/size]


*** Notice how you can slay a person if the person spreads corruption in the land or as some translations call it, "mischief". This "corruption in the land" or "mischief" can mean anything such as Preaching the Gospel of Christ, making Muslims uncomfortable by questioning the Qu'ran or Muhammed, drawing Mohammed, supporting western education etc This has therefore been an excused used by Jihadists like BokoHaram, ISIS, Hamas, hezbollah, Al shabba, Alqueda etc to murder, kill and destroy.


My problem with the argument u made about misinterpretation of the arabic verses above is that one requires super esoteric exegetical skills to decipher the "true" message of "benignancy and mercy" in the Quran(if there is any), of course such an effort would completely defeat the quran's claim of being a message for all of mankind, hence, the quran becomes useless and a lie.
______________
Also remember the quran in use today is a heavily edited version. Caliph uthman burnt thousands of contradictory qurans and hence several passages in todays quran are ambiguous (and with little meaning) unless u go to the hadiths to understand the fuller context. Perhaps uthman destroyed the original quran containing context of several of those stories. So much for the quran being uncorruptable. _______________
However this has not stopped countless moderate islamic scholars from trying to "crack" the meanings of the violent verses that litter the quran and hence make the quran passages peaceful. Others, like the extremists have less patience. The jihadists (mostly middle east arabic speaking muslims) have taken the meanings of the quran as literal as it is written and have wages jihad and killing countless people for 1400 years.

Something designed to be a message for mankind and for all times (as the quran claims) must be, above all other things, clear and unambiguous, not least when it supposedly comes from the omniscient creator who must necessarily know how to communicate with its creation.

other religions regard there prophets,but never neglect to point out there evil,sins,weakness... In all seriousness this waywardness is even written by the prophets themselves.

But.

In islam, all the attrocities(he lead offensive wars, ambushed the caravan of meccan business men,beheading husbands,sleeping with there wives,nobody should question his verdict,killing critics,...his last word to his al majiris will shock u non muslims.... his escatollogies,the fate of non muslims will make u sleep with two eyes open ) of muhamed is pass marked by his allah, u even see the muslim community calling him al hassan...
... Because the meccans side of the story ve never been heard.

Blackfire:

Blackfire I just read ur PM, u are officially the first atheist that I will thank for pointing out a bible passage that supports Christ's divinity. Lol.

The book of daniel vision story u pointed out is in daniel 7: 12-14.
I have come across the verse before but totally forgot about it.

And I quote

"13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. 14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."

Here daniel centuries earlier prophesied the coming of the son of man, Jesus christ.

Wow buddy, thanks for reminding me. God bless you.

It shows added significance as to why christ was called to son of man.

Boko Haram Release New Barbaric Video Of Beheading ( Download)

WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT

Boko Haram– now known as the Islamic State West Africa Province– released a new video this week showing off new weapons and graphically depicting the beheading of a Nigerian policeman. The new Boko Haram video’s production value seems to indicate it was produced with help from ISIS, and leader Abubakar Shekau’s absence once again is raising questions.


DOWNLOAD VIDEO HERE
http://ginjaland.com/videos/video-boko-haram-release-new-barbaric-video-of-beheading-download

parisbookaddict:


In addition

Here is a favorite verse called the "no compulsion of religion verse" used by muslim apologists to decieve people about islam.

Qu'ran 5:32, “...If anyone slays a person, it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.”

But this is what the verse really says

Qu'ran 5:32-34, "On that account: Therefore we prescribed for the Children of Israel that who so slays a soul not to retaliate for a soul slain, nor for corruption done in the land, shall be as if he had slain mankind altogether; and who so gives life to a soul, shall be as if he has given life to mankind altogether. [size=13pt] Our Messengers have already come to them with the clear signs; then many of them thereafter commit excesses in the earth.
This is the recompense of those who fight against God and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be SLAUGHTERED, or CRUCIFIED, or their hands and feet shall alternately be STRUCK OFF; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement,
except for such as repent, before you have power over them. So know you that God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate." [/size]


*** Notice how you can slay a person if the person spreads corruption in the land or as some translations call it, "mischief". This "corruption in the land" or "mischief" can mean anything such as Preaching the Gospel of Christ, making Muslims uncomfortable by questioning the Qu'ran or Muhammed, drawing Mohammed, supporting western education etc This has therefore been an excused used by Jihadists like BokoHaram, ISIS, Hamas, hezbollah, Al shabba, Alqueda etc to murder, kill and destroy.


My problem with the argument u made about misinterpretation of the arabic verses above is that one requires super esoteric exegetical skills to decipher the "true" message of "benignancy and mercy" in the Quran(if there is any), of course such an effort would completely defeat the quran's claim of being a message for all of mankind, hence, the quran becomes useless and a lie.
______________
Also remember the quran in use today is a heavily edited version. Caliph uthman burnt thousands of contradictory qurans and hence several passages in todays quran are ambiguous (and with little meaning) unless u go to the hadiths to understand the fuller context. Perhaps uthman destroyed the original quran containing context of several of those stories. So much for the quran being uncorruptable. _______________
However this has not stopped countless moderate islamic scholars from trying to "crack" the meanings of the violent verses that litter the quran and hence make the quran passages peaceful. Others, like the extremists have less patience. The jihadists (mostly middle east arabic speaking muslims) have taken the meanings of the quran as literal as it is written and have wages jihad and killing countless people for 1400 years.

Something designed to be a message for mankind and for all times (as the quran claims) must be, above all other things, clear and unambiguous, not least when it supposedly comes from the omniscient creator who must necessarily know how to communicate with its creation.

.......................... You are not in a position to say the Qur'an is useless, neither are you in a position to say the Qur'an is full of lies (May you be forgiven).... Need I remind you again that the Qur'an has never for once been edited All you said is a mere propaganda!! I vehemently disagree!!! That is only applicable to the Bible where u have the new testament, the old testament, king James version etc.......................... THIS verse cannot be found in any printed copy of the Qur'an, regardless of whether or not it is in the original Arabic or in one of its many English translations. The reason for this is simple: the verse in question DOES NOT EXIST..... What is actually presented by apologists is a distorted, out-of-context and misleading paraphrasing of the verse:

Islam considers all life forms as sacred. However, the sanctity of human life is accorded a special place. The first and the foremost basic right of a human being is the right to live. Qur'an 6 vs 151 says "take not life, which God hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom".................................................................
HEAR BARACK OBAMA..... “The Holy Koran teaches that whoever kills an innocent, it is as if he has killed all mankind; and whoever saves a person, it is as if he has saved all mankind.” So said OBAMA in is his speech at Cairo on June 4, 2009, intended to the Muslim world.
...................................................................................
This quote is taken from verse 5:32 of the "Holy Koran". Let us first quote the full verse and see what it says:...... "On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person - unless it be in retaliation for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew all mankind: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all humanity" ....................

This verse is written in PAST TENSE (Ordained, not Ordain) and clearly does not apply to Muslims but to "the Children of Israel" i.e. the Jews who, according to Islam, received an earlier set of scriptures. In fact, it is mistakingly referencing a rabbinical commentary found in the Talmud as if it were the words of Allah.

Also when the clause which allows killing is reinserted and the passage is read in context with the following two verses directed at Muslims (notice the reference to Allah's messenger and the switch to present tense), what first appeared on the surface to be a peaceful message, is in actual fact a warning to non-believers:........ MISCHIEF? Clearly "mischief" which is also equated to "waging war against Allah and His Messenger" in the very next verse, can and does apply to someone who simply refuses to accept Islam.

According to Shaykh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the world's most quoted independent Islamic jurist: Surah al-Ma'idah (5:33) says: "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle is that they should be murdered or crucified." According to Abi Kulaba's narration this verse means the APOSTATES. And many hadiths, not only one or two, but many, narrated by a number of Muhammad's companions state that any apostate should be killed.
.................

"He who kills a believing soul intentionally, Allah makes the Fire of Hell his abode, He will become angry with him, and curse him, and has prepared a tremendous punishment for him, equal to if he had killed all people, his punishment will still be the same".........

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Boko Haram Release New Barbaric Video Of Beheading ( Download)

WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT

Boko Haram– now known as the Islamic State West Africa Province– released a new video this week showing off new weapons and graphically depicting the beheading of a Nigerian policeman. The new Boko Haram video’s production value seems to indicate it was produced with help from ISIS, and leader Abubakar Shekau’s absence once again is raising questions.


DOWNLOAD VIDEO HERE
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They beheaded a police when did the Nigerian police Starr going to war front.. I thought its only the army and airforce..

shizzy7:
They beheaded a police when did the Nigerian police Starr going to war front.. I thought its only the army and airforce..

It is very easy to catch a police man.

NormalCodes:



It is very easy to catch a police man.

well it could be a police and it can also be someone else who they just gave a police uniform to wear...,,,
but look at the uniform it has just one red thing and there is also another white thing on the arm of the dress our police uniforms don't have that except if its patch...,,,

I don't know if our police men still wear that kind of trousers,, well they have different clothes sha..

Teekrayne:
.......................... You are not in a position to say the Qur'an is useless, neither are you in a position to say the Qur'an is full of lies (May you be forgiven).... Need I remind you again that the Qur'an has never for once been edited All you said is a mere propaganda!! I vehemently disagree!!! That is only applicable to the Bible where u have the new testament, the old testament, king James version etc.......................... THIS verse cannot be found in any printed copy of the Qur'an, regardless of whether or not it is in the original Arabic or in one of its many English translations. The reason for this is simple: the verse in question DOES NOT EXIST..... What is actually presented by apologists is a distorted, out-of-context and misleading paraphrasing of the verse:

Islam considers all life forms as sacred. However, the sanctity of human life is accorded a special place. The first and the foremost basic right of a human being is the right to live. Qur'an 6 vs 151 says "take not life, which God hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom".................................................................
HEAR BARACK OBAMA..... “The Holy Koran teaches that whoever kills an innocent, it is as if he has killed all mankind; and whoever saves a person, it is as if he has saved all mankind.” So said OBAMA in is his speech at Cairo on June 4, 2009, intended to the Muslim world.
...................................................................................
This quote is taken from verse 5:32 of the "Holy Koran". Let us first quote the full verse and see what it says:...... "On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person - unless it be in retaliation for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew all mankind: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all humanity" ....................

This verse is written in PAST TENSE (Ordained, not Ordain) and clearly does not apply to Muslims but to "the Children of Israel" i.e. the Jews who, according to Islam, received an earlier set of scriptures. In fact, it is mistakingly referencing a rabbinical commentary found in the Talmud as if it were the words of Allah.

Also when the clause which allows killing is reinserted and the passage is read in context with the following two verses directed at Muslims (notice the reference to Allah's messenger and the switch to present tense), what first appeared on the surface to be a peaceful message, is in actual fact a warning to non-believers:........ MISCHIEF? Clearly "mischief" which is also equated to "waging war against Allah and His Messenger" in the very next verse, can and does apply to someone who simply refuses to accept Islam.

According to Shaykh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the world's most quoted independent Islamic jurist: Surah al-Ma'idah (5:33) says: "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle is that they should be murdered or crucified." According to Abi Kulaba's narration this verse means the APOSTATES. And many hadiths, not only one or two, but many, narrated by a number of Muhammad's companions state that any apostate should be killed.
.................

"He who kills a believing soul intentionally, Allah makes the Fire of Hell his abode, He will become angry with him, and curse him, and has prepared a tremendous punishment for him, equal to if he had killed all people, his punishment will still be the same".........

GoogLe quran burning by caliph uthman. Everybody who knows the history of the quran knows that some of its passages have been lost, their is even a hadith where aisha says a goat ate part of the original manuscript. Somehow majority of muslims have deluded themself to think it has been perfecTly preserved.



..and u even ran to quote barrack obama to help u defend the quran.. Obama a "kaffir" who would have been fought by mohammed till he pays the jizyah and is humbled or convert or killed. He is a politician he can't be agressive towards muslims. He was once a muslim and he left it for christianity. Isn't that indicative of his stance on islam.

Now u claim the verse I quoted does not exist, lol..Muslims and al taqiyya. Here let me present u with screenshot of the quran and a link. .

What's ur reply? More lies or will u admit the quran is crap and possibly written by a bipolar person.

quran.com/5/32-33

parisbookaddict:


GoogLe quran burning by caliph uthman. Everybody who knows the history of the quran knows that some of its passages have been lost, their is even a hadith where aisha says a goat ate part of the original manuscript. Somehow majority of muslims have deluded themself to think it has been perfecTly preserved.



..and u even ran to quote barrack obama to help u defend the quran.. Obama a "kaffir" who would have been fought by mohammed till he pays the jizyah and is humbled or convert or killed. He is a politician he can't be agressive towards muslims. He was once a muslim and he left it for christianity. Isn't that indicative of his stance on islam.

Now u claim the verse I quoted does not exist, lol..Muslims and al taqiyya. Here let me present u with screenshot of the quran and a link. .

What's ur reply? More lies or will u admit the quran is crap and possibly written by a bipolar person.

quran.com/5/32-33

........ Yes, Obama was once a Muslim and he converted to Christianity! His Choice bro, good luck to him. However, does that justify the fact that Christianity is the way forward?? Does that make him objective in all spheres of life? Adebayor did convert, is that a new thing You'd be gobsmacked if I quote the number of contradictory verses in the bible due to the fact that Christians are so confused; they keep on editing the holy book which is abysmal! They edit it, get rid of the ones that do not favour them and leave the one that is propitious. You guys should sort out your differences and when you are done, then you can come back here and debate with me. I am not amongst those who would be quick at attacking other religions or their prophets, I debate objectively, figure that out!!!!..... God bless you and stop the blasphemy, its a matter of choice!!!

abduljabbar4:
Go and take ur drugs

......... He left the Asylum so soon!!!

Teekrayne:
........ Yes, Obama was once a Muslim and he converted to Christianity! His Choice bro, good luck to him. However, does that justify the fact that Christianity is the way forward?? Does that make him objective in all spheres of life? Adebayor did convert, is that a new thing You'd be gobsmacked if I quote the number of contradictory verses in the bible due to the fact that Christians are so confused; they keep on editing the holy book which is abysmal! They edit it, get rid of the ones that do not favour them and leave the one that is propitious. You guys should sort out your differences and when you are done, then you can come back here and debate with me. I am not amongst those who would be quick at attacking other religions or their prophets, I debate objectively, figure that out!!!!..... God bless you and stop the blasphemy, its a matter of choice!!!

Wow, U are a shameless hypocrite. Are u not the one who brought obama to defend islam?... and I pointed out to you the foolishness of that line of argument. He renounced islam and claims to be a christian. He isn't in anyway an exemplary christian and I didn't cite him as an example of why one should accept christianity so what is ur point

Are u still going to deny that verse from ur quran. Ur supposed god's words. I posted a screenshot for u.. Apparently u don't read ur quran in english.

Run along, ur muslim logic bores me.

And by the way, highlighting mohammeds crimes and disgusting behaviour is not blasphemy, he is no god, nor is he a messenger of any god.

parisbookaddict:



Wow, U are a shameless hypocrite. Are u not the one who brought obama to defend islam?... and I pointed out to you the foolishness of that line of argument. He renounced islam and claims to be a christian. He isn't in anyway an exemplary christian and I didn't cite him as an example of why one should accept christianity so what is ur point

Are u still going to deny that verse from ur quran. Ur supposed god's words. I posted a screenshot for u.. Apparently u don't read ur quran in english.

Run along, ur muslim logic bores me.

And by the way, highlighting mohammeds crimes and disgusting behaviour is not blasphemy, he is no god, nor is he a messenger of any god.

......... Its a matter of choice my brother! I'd advise you to take off the zero kilobyte memory card from your brain and insert a 100gigabyte memory card, at least for you to comprehend someone's "post"..... I tried all I could to ensure that I don't resort to this, but as we all know it, our behaviour is like a flame; if you cover it with anything, it will sneak out. A responsible personality is not quick @ attacking others, even though he is being sternly yelled at.... You just accentuated your gormless nature which is sadly lugubrious for Christianity! Win argument with Sagacity!!! Do not join the trend of winning an argument with foolishness, stupidity, spreading false News, defamation, officiousness which is prevalent in most of our social media!!! Grow up please, its perilous for your way of life! We started peacefully, only for you to be possessed by your over zealous "stunt"..... If you are a Maniac, den I am a Fundamentalist!!!! #Kapish.... WARNING: Danger zone, Back off, except you want to end up like @Omentaka, your gullible brother in da lord who chatters......

Teekrayne:
......... Its a matter of choice my brother! I'd advise you to take off the zero kilobyte memory card from your brain and insert a 100gigabyte memory card, at least for you to comprehend someone's "post"..... I tried all I could to ensure that I don't resort to this, but as we all know it, our behaviour is like a flame; if you cover it with anything, it will sneak out. A responsible personality is not quick @ attacking others, even though he is being sternly yelled at.... You just accentuated your gormless nature which is sadly lugubrious for Christianity! Win argument with Sagacity!!! Do not join the trend of winning an argument with foolishness, stupidity, spreading false News, defamation, officiousness which is prevalent in most of our social media!!! Grow up please, its perilous for your way of life! We started peacefully, only for you to be possessed by your over zealous "stunt"..... If you are a Maniac, den I am a Fundamentalist!!!! #Kapish.... WARNING: Danger zone, Back off, except you want to end up like @Omentaka, your gullible brother in da lord who chatters......

Apparently when ur silly lies and al taqiyya has been exposed u become overly verbose as well as throwing threats. Do u know how many muslims have threaten to "deal" with me, "track" me down or have your islamic allah delete my nairaland account(I found this one funniest).

Oh please grow up,

I have exposed all ur silly arguments including ur lies about the verse which u claimed is not in ur quran.

Bring more and it shall be exposed and islam will be shown as a fraud that it is.

au revoir mr muslim.

Tabari IX:69
"He who believes in Allah and His
Messenger has protected his life and possessions
from us.
As for those who disbelieve, we will fight them
forever in
the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter
to us."


Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger
of Allah. And those with him are hard
(ruthless) against the disbelievers and
merciful among themselves"

parisbookaddict:


Apparently when ur silly lies and al taqiyya has been exposed u become overly verbose as well as throwing threats. Do u know how many muslims have threaten to "deal" with me, "track" me down or have your islamic allah delete my nairaland account(I found this one funniest).

Oh please grow up,

I have exposed all ur silly arguments including ur lies about the verse which u claimed is not in ur quran.

Bring more and it shall be exposed and islam will be shown as a fraud that it is.

au revoir mr muslim.

Tabari IX:69
"He who believes in Allah and His
Messenger has protected his life and possessions
from us.
As for those who disbelieve, we will fight them
forever in
the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter
to us."


Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger
of Allah. And those with him are hard
(ruthless) against the disbelievers and
merciful among themselves"

.......... Keep on spreading false News by fooling your self and watch what happens, I need not fight for God as I am a mere servant, I can only correct any "animal" who feels he/she can say trash about my religion and so I did, you need not concede it!!!! I need not waste ma time in all of dis! I thought we could continue, but unfortunately, your maturity is far below the one I expected! Good luck!