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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by Chanchit: 7:00pm On Aug 14, 2015
Na only God fit punish this bloggers with all their lies!

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by Atlantian: 7:00pm On Aug 14, 2015
abdulkayus:


Hey hater, can't u comprehend? That practice has been abolished many years ago. Y are u trying to be intolerant, bigot and stupid at the same time.
Guy, its the truth, all my Yoruba friends open their mouths way too wide when they talk and they have a thing for soups that clearly look like palm oil with bad taste. I have lived in Osun State for a year during NYSC, and Yorubas have the worst kind of soup I have ever tasted. Its the bitter truth. How can you fuccking bury someone with the dead. It is animal abuse. We are all animals, arent we ?

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by oduaboy1: 7:02pm On Aug 14, 2015
lonelydora:
A very big lie. It's because the man absconded, they don't want to see it as an insult.

Abobaku, wherever you are, I hail you because you have written your name in the history of Ile-Ife.

Abobaku, please come back and continue your enjoyment joor. Die with Oba for wetin?
It is difficult to free fools from the chain they revere-----Voltaire

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by nezer83: 7:03pm On Aug 14, 2015
[quote author=zimoni post=36955364]I saw this on Grandson Soyemi's fb wall and decided to share.


Let me set the record straight...in this age of information, ignorance is a choice.

I have watched the show of vacuity as it is been displayed by some of the online gurus (mediocre) in the recent time about the Abobaku saga. It is ignoramus to jump into the pool you have not delved before. Let me set the record straight...

Abobaku is a traditional practice in the ancient Yoruba Empire. Abobaku system is peculiar to the Ancient Oyo-Yoruba Empire. It is not heinous as some people take it to be, rather it is a matter of choice, people compete to occupy the position of Abobaku just as other positions because while the king is alive, the Abobaku enjoys de facto power and he shares in the glory of His Royal Highness.

In the Ancient Oyo-Yoruba Empire, it was constitutional for Aremo to be Abobaku, he is to be buried with his father. After the Owu War in 1827, there came the creation of Ibadan and Ijaye in 1829 and 1830 respectively.

Ogunmola headed Ibadan as Kurunmi who later became Are Ona Kakanfo became the leader of Ijaye. Alaafin Atiba succeeded Alaafin Oluewu in 1837, but at the demise of Alaafin Atiba in 1859, Adelu who was Aremo and supposed to be Abobaku (someone that dies with king) refused to die with the king and wanted to succeed his father. And because of the benefits Ibadan enjoyed under Alaafin Atiba, they wanted continuity by supporting Aremo Adelu to become Alaafin against the tradition.

On the contrary, Ijaye did not want the continuity and wanted to protect the culture of the kingship, there started a war of superiority between Ibadan's combatants and Ijaye's warriors in which Ibadan came out victorious and Aremo Adelu became Alaafin Adelu in 1859. This was how the doctrine of Abobaku ended in Oyo-Yoruba Empire.

Ife has never practiced the tradition of Abobaku before and no one can point to anywhere in Yorubaland today where the tradition is under vogue.

Abobaku is a system in the past and it has gone with the past. It is vicious and malicious to peddle what you know nothing about to score a mere rhetoric point. We are proud of our


@OP, apart from the Abobaku, can u confirm that their king is buried with no human head or life involved...why the curfew?..why the chiefs denying the oba death even when the hospital in London confirmed the man was dead??

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by DLuciano: 7:07pm On Aug 14, 2015
I donbilivit. Odudua descents to abolish what is handed over to them from odudua himself? except u are telling me the royal families are now born again christians, and i doubt.

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by 9jatatafo(m): 7:09pm On Aug 14, 2015
Whether abobaku or saarun, this is just stupidity. How come this OP is coming out after the death and burial of the Ooni? I hope this is not another washing

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by eyinjuege: 7:09pm On Aug 14, 2015
funkybully:
Too late at face saving crap. We non yorubas don't even know what abobaku means, it is yoloba word and d meaning says it all.

What is d curfew for n why is the burial enshrewed in such secrecy that only few fellow ogboni chiefs witness it? What are they hiding?

There really is nothing new about the Oro curfew. Even in a city as metropolitan as Lagos, its still being practiced regularly e.g Ikorodu. The last Ooni Oba Adesoji Aderemi's burial site is still not known by anybody. No one will know when Ooni Sijuwade will be buried and definitely no one will know his burial site. It's highly secretive, and its their tradition. The only thing anyone will probably hear about this ish is that a new Ooni is being enthroned.
Kings in Yorubaland are supposed to be gods, who don't die, so how can you bury someone that's not dead? He has only "waja"- gone on a journey.
I personally don't believe anyone is going to be buried with any dead king, but we are still very traditional people in Naija. Toneach is own provided no one's getting hurt.

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by titosantana(m): 7:11pm On Aug 14, 2015
chuna1985:
Barbaric tribe.

Nah, it's a wonderful tribe that housed cultured people. A tribe loved and respected all over the world.




For uttering this balderdash shows you are the barbaric one here.

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by 247notire(m): 7:12pm On Aug 14, 2015
chuna1985:
Barbaric tribe.
I'm ibo but... F^ck u man! U dint need to say that...

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by Exponental(m): 7:14pm On Aug 14, 2015
If the Oba wasn't dead as declared earlier and now he is dead..... why should I believe this because another story might surface later.

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by funkybully(f): 7:16pm On Aug 14, 2015
eyinjuege:


There really is nothing new about the Oro curfew. Even in a city as metropolitan as Lagos, its still being practiced regularly e.g Ikorodu. The last Ooni Oba Adesoji Aderemi's burial site is still not known by anybody. No one will know when Ooni Sijuwade will be buried and definitely no one will know his burial site. It's highly secretive, and its their tradition. The only thing anyone will probably hear about this ish is that a new Ooni is being enthroned.
Kings in Yorubaland are supposed to be gods, who don't die, so how can you bury someone that's not dead? He has only "waja"- gone on a journey.
I personally don't believe anyone is going to be buried with any dead king, but we are still very traditional people in Naija. Toneach is own provided no one's getting hurt.


But there are oba tombs in pictures, How come the tombs Later resurface if burial sites are unknown

For d fact that all obas are ogbonis have proved d sacrifice thing. I have witnessed an agboni man burial. They entered where the man was lieing in state, asked everybody to leave including d wife of d man, they locked d door n do their ritual stuff. Heard his heart was taken.

U can't rule out d possibility of burying obas with heads since d last rites are done in secrete by chiefs Who must have swore oaths to keep d secrete.

No rumour without origin. No smoke without fire.

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by tevinsolt: 7:17pm On Aug 14, 2015
This was also practiced in ancient Egypt/sudan....hmm maybe there's a link or just coincidence.

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by ahamonyeka(m): 7:19pm On Aug 14, 2015
Abobaku played enjoy while it last.
Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by tevinsolt: 7:21pm On Aug 14, 2015
Atlantian:
So the Yorubas were so barbaric right from the 17th century. No wonder they love palm oil and opening their mouths when they talk. They should kindly abolish this nonsense. It is too shameful.

What is shameful about it? Nigga better have a seat before I dig out the primitive practices of your tribe

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by Atlantian: 7:23pm On Aug 14, 2015
tevinsolt:


What is shameful about it? Nigga better have a seat before I dig out the primitive practices of your tribe
Nothing is shameful about burying a living person with the dead or with opening the mouth way too wide when speaking ?

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by funkybully(f): 7:24pm On Aug 14, 2015
247notire:
I'm ibo but... F^ck u man! U dint need to say that...

No igbo man calls himself ibo, stop impersonation

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by oloyede252(m): 7:25pm On Aug 14, 2015
ichidodo:
This laughable attempt at saving face is not going to work... How about fibbing this rubbish to the loved ones of those whose lives have been ritually cut off as part of the burial rites of the late Ooni? May Be they would prefer your head in Ooni's tomb instead of this cover up.
Mr man.this is not something to argue about if it is or not,the man set the record straight by providing historical backup to the legend of abobaku...and I want to believe you understand the op assertion... so attempt at saving face as you put it is just you showing ignorance on subject matter.and to the rest of your statement don't say what you don't know it will just make you look dumb.

anyway I see your not of Yoruba so please just stop spreading ignorance...
thank you.

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by titosantana(m): 7:25pm On Aug 14, 2015
Atlantian:
So the Yorubas were so barbaric right from the 17th century. No wonder they love palm oil and opening their mouths when they talk. They should kindly abolish this nonsense. It is too shameful.
grin
I swear you be mad man, so when you talk you whisper abi, you don't open your mouth at all.




Nairaland now have innumerable illiterates and ignorants.

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by Atlantian: 7:28pm On Aug 14, 2015
titosantana:

grin
I swear you be mad man, so when you talk you whisper abi, you don't open your mouth at all.




Nairaland now have innumerable illiterates and ignorants.
When I talk, I use the audibility shape of my mouth. I do not open my mouth like a village crocodile hunter on a mission. By the way, did you call me illiterate and ignorant, yet you cant spell ? Your diction smells like palm oil soup. I pray you get buried alive with the next Oba at his demise.

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by tevinsolt: 7:30pm On Aug 14, 2015
Atlantian:
Nothing is shameful about burying a living person with the dead or with opening the mouth way too wide when speaking ?

There's nothing shameful about an old traditions, every culture in the world has had it's own period of it. If it is still practiced then, they need to be arrested. But don't come here with that bull to single this tribe out. It is bullshit and u know it.

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by Mcowubaba: 7:30pm On Aug 14, 2015
chuna1985:
Barbaric tribe.
Silly comment !

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by Atlantian: 7:32pm On Aug 14, 2015
tevinsolt:


There's nothing shameful about an old traditions, every culture in the world has had it's own period of it. If it is still practiced then, they need to be arrested. But don't come here with that bull to single this tribe out. It is bullshit and u know it.
Its turn by turn. I have seen too much barbarity in African tradition. I do not respect any of the tradition as far as its barbaric and neanderthal in nature. But the Yoruba traditions are way too silly and cantankerous. You and I know this truth. We must call it out and shun it. This is 21st century. If you love tradition then rewind the clock in your home.

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by kenoz(m): 7:33pm On Aug 14, 2015
Hmmmm
Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by amtalkin(f): 7:34pm On Aug 14, 2015
Thank God its no longer in practise. I just hope it doesn't cause a tribal war Don't come and blame any tribe here , cause when the news Abobaku on the run came up no Yoruba came out to clear us on this. Now we have being cleared just watch the topic die.
Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by anonimi: 7:40pm On Aug 14, 2015
Inioluwa01:
I knew it! I just knew all the talk about the Abobaku thingy couldn't be any true. Pfsshh! It doesn't make sense @ all...not in this civilized dispensation..It's like sacrificing 2 balls for 1.

Does it make sense that the King died many weeks ago in London and the people were in denial
Abi we are not in civilised dispensation ni?

And what about the CANNIBALISTIC practice of eating the organs of a dead King by his successor etc



Erelu Lola Ayorinde speaks of what her culture did to the body of her Oba popularly known as Eleyinmi of Village Headmaster
Read on and see link to read more


Through the pain, you learn a lot about yourself - things you thought you never knew. You might even find yourself with experiences you will rather not go through. That was exactly what happened to me five years ago when a brief illness led to the death of a very much loved one - my Kabiyesi, the then Alaye Ode-Remo in Ogun State, Nigeria,- HRH Oba Sunday Funsho Adeolu - Sataloye II (affectionately known as Chief Eleyinmi) on 21st August 2008 at Kings College Hospital In London.

Prior to his coronation in 1990, he was born into a Christian Methodist Family. He grew up in a vicarage with a father who was a clergyman. From childhood, he and his younger brother were aware that they were potential heirs to the throne of their ancestors. He was a student of Ahmadu Bello University and The London School of Journalism. A Sports Commentator with the Nigerian Broadcasting Corporation and a widely celebrated television actor; his role in a TV series known as The Millers brought him into spotlight.
He took part in many film productions including, Things Fall Apart and Son Of Africa, and was popularly known as Chief Eleyinmi in a TV series called "The Village Headmaster" written by the late Ambassador Olusegun Olushola.

He was indeed a Statesman who deserved a State funeral worthy of a King.
Unfortunately, his funeral rites remain a secret, a Taboo subject.
No one dare speaks about how he was laid to rest, if one can say he has been laid to rest
This practice is not uncommon in significant parts of Yoruba Land of Nigeria.
Whilst many potential victims bury their heads in the sand and console themselves with ''what happens after my death is no concern of mine''
Onlookers questions the relevance of Traditional Institutions in Nigeria and other developing nations. They believe that fanatics would argue that the role of the Traditional Ruler is to uphold the Customs and Traditions but we are now at a different time where some of those previously obsolete beliefs no longer stand the test of time.

This is a sufficient reason why it should be the concern of all law abiding Nigerian Citizens to represent the potential victims of customary rituals most especially the Monarchs in areas where customary rituals, idolatry are of concern, with a particular focus on currently serving Yoruba Kings who following their death are at risk of becoming victims of barbaric, secretive, valueless, obnoxious, fake and unfounded customary rituals.
For example,
The Awujale of Ijebuland, Kabiyesi Oba Sikiru Adetona a practicing Moslem.
HRM Kabiyesi Oba Dr. Adedapo Tejuoso, The Osile of Okeona Egba, a devout Christian and Evangelist.

Since the mysterious disappearance of the body of my late Kabiyesi, at least these two likewise:
Elerunwon of Erunwon - HRH Kabiyesi Oba Awofeso - former Primate of Cherubim & Seraphim Church and a Revivalist.
HRH Oba Oladele Olashore - The Owaloko of Iloko Ijesha - a devout Anglican and former Finance Minister of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
My late Kabiyesi was a distinguished Elder Statesman who like many monarchs, responded to the call of Almighty God and his ancestors through Ifa (eefah) / the Oracle of Orunmila - a spiritual ancient Yoruba method used to confirm heirs to the thrones in Yoruba Land. He wholeheartedly served his communities, state, nation, and country, yet when he joined his ancestors/died, instead of a befitting burial, the whereabouts of his remains is still unknown. What we know is that the body was brutalised, treated like that of a criminal, dragged around on the streets of the town, his head left hanging for many weeks until the neck was rotten to allow the neck to come off naturally without the use of a sharp knife. Once the head came off, the body was cut into pieces, his heart removed to be eaten by his successor. His head is still in captivity somewhere in Ode Remo, Ogun State. He has no grave.

We are told the Kings of of Remo-land (Ogun State, Nigeria) are not entitled to an identifiable final place of rest, so do not have graves - a tradition which is not in accordance with the practice in ILE IFE or in OYO, the historical origin and source of all Yorubas including those from Remo-land.
The perpetrators of the fake, barbaric, and uncivilised inhumane act against the remains of dead Kings of Yorubaland are a group of individuals who are Slaves known as Afobajes / Kingmakers, Abobakus (destined to die with the King) Olokunesin known as Odis (slaves) of Ode Remo / Ijebu-land.

In the case of my late King, the ritual was without the involvement of the Chief Priest / Oluwo of the town who was then a very frail 90-year old, living in fear because he expressed a wish for Christian funeral rites. This was refused by the Traditional Council (Osugbo) of the town. All the attempts of the frail 90-year old to involve the State Government in the negotiation of his burial arrangements prior to his death was almost futile. In Nigeria today, regardless of the fact that in 1852, slave trade / human sacrifice were abolished, it is disgraceful that human sacrifice and uncivilised acts have become everyday occurrence.
To perpetrate the inhuman ungodly act experienced by my late King (Kabiyesi) required a mandatory imposition of a curfew from 12midnight to 6am. It is unclear who provided the legal authority to impose the curfew.

However, following the death of the immediate predecessor of current Alake of Egbaland, late HRH Oba Oyebade Lipede, who had an expressed wish for a Christian burial, his loyal and dutiful wife - Olori Bimpe placed his body in the boot of a car fled to Lagos, in order to facilitate a Christian burial rite for her late husband. Unfortunately she failed, the body was removed from her and handed to the ritualists of Egba-land.
The curfew which took place for consequential customary rituals was later declared illegal in Ogun State via a court settlement in a suit between:
All Concerned Christians Of Egba-land as Plaintiffs, and The Governor Of Ogun State, Attorney General & Commissioner for Justice Ogun State, a Mr. Donaldson Abiodun Ajayi, and Abeokuta South Local Government, Ogun State as Defendants.

A copy of the enrolment of judgment by Chief Judge C.O. Jacobs is available for reference in my archive.
The existence of such a court judgment could have served as a catalyst to prevent the curfew imposed when the body of my late Kabiyesi HRH Oba Sunday Funsho Adeolu was brought back to Nigeria from London in September 2008.

Nigeria is a country with a legal constitution. Section 38 (1) of the Nigerian Constitution confers on every citizen the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; while Section 17 (2b) declares that the sanctity of the human person shall be recognised and human dignity shall be maintained and enhanced.

A Constitution is the instruction book for how things work. It is a plan which provides the rules for the government. A Constitution dictates the law.

- See more at: http://trumpetmediagroup.com/opinion...breach-/#.dpuf





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvpzx1L4s88
Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by bollyrozy(m): 7:41pm On Aug 14, 2015
Am glad to read this......
Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by Oduduwaboy(m): 7:45pm On Aug 14, 2015
lonelydora:
A very big lie. It's because the man absconded, they don't want to see it as an insult.

Abobaku, wherever you are, I hail you because you have written your name in the history of Ile-Ife.

Abobaku, please come back and continue your enjoyment joor. Die with Oba for wetin?
You do epitomize the saying that ignorance is by choice ...

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by lyricalz(m): 7:46pm On Aug 14, 2015
Lie, I still do not trust and believe these yoruba pple, as far they still practice oro festival in this modern age which other babaric act can they ignore.

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by Iddiot(m): 7:49pm On Aug 14, 2015
grin wat d u expect him to say

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Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by tevinsolt: 7:53pm On Aug 14, 2015
Atlantian:
Its turn by turn. I have seen too much barbarity in African tradition. I do not respect any of the tradition as far as its barbaric and neanderthal in nature. But the Yoruba traditions are way too silly and cantankerous. You and I know this truth. We must call it out and shun it. This is 21st century. If you love tradition then rewind the clock in your home.
you seem to know more about this silly tradition(s)...can u care to explain
Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by ichidodo(m): 7:54pm On Aug 14, 2015
oloyede252:

Mr man.this is not something to argue about if it is or not,the man set the record straight by providing historical backup to the legend of abobaku...and I want to believe you understand the op assertion... so attempt at saving face as you put it is just you showing ignorance on subject matter.and to the rest of your statement don't say what you don't know it will just make you look dumb.

anyway I see your not of Yoruba so please just stop spreading ignorance...
thank you
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Rubbish.... Who's talkin about a direlict title when souls have already been ritually sacrificed... Yeah, we see tis a yoruba thing this fetish practice and the victims yoruba too. Now, Clap for yourself.
Re: Noise About Abobaku Online.....the Culture Has Been Abolished Years Ago. by homirefacuny(m): 7:54pm On Aug 14, 2015
Bonapart:
Like seriously who give a damn.... they can bury his whole children alive along side with the dude





















I almost give a damn anyway

You give a damn??

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