rotecch77:
Let me talk Generally on burglar bars
I’m not using this to support any side.
As I was thought in sch as building tech student then which I’m also putting into practice at site.

Case of burglar bars
Let assume your block opening is 1200*1200
You need to reduce 25mm from all four sides of the WALL OPENINGS.( this is for plastering gauge)

Then you will also consider 15mm reductions from all 4 sides agains ( for alignment)

Now you will left with 25+15mm =40mm
You final burglar size to be delivered to the site will be 1160mm * 1160mm.

This also applicable to door.

EgunMogaji2:


I think it's acceptable. Not up to Topsy level but good enough. It's better than most nest of wires that I've been seeing.

rotecch77:
Let me talk Generally on burglar bars
I’m not using this to support any side.
As I was thought in sch as building tech student then which I’m also putting into practice at site.

Case of burglar bars
Let assumed your block opening is 1200*1200
You need to reduce 25mm from all four sides of the WALL OPENINGS.( this is for plastering gauge)

Then you will also consider 15mm reductions from all 4 sides agains ( for alignment)

Now you will left with 25+15mm =40mm
You final burglar size to be delivered to the site will be 1160mm * 1160mm.

This also applicable to door.

InvertedHammer:


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If that's the case, won't it be fair to quote 1160mm x 1160mm(since it is the actual build) instead of 1200mm x 1200mm? That is factoring in the reductions on both sides just to avoid confusion.

Life is simple.

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UC92:

To be honest, your designer goofed by giving you a main entrance of 3ft.
Usually building components like doors and windows require tolerance for installation, reason for the 3 inches reduction.
Please next time ensure your vendor visits the site to take measurement, insist on developing a statement of work which both parties can agree on.

Naijapal:
Assumption can either make or mar you. Get it right and you'll be praise to high heavens; get it wrong and you'll be labeled names.

That's how it is done everywhere is not tenable. People want to go outside the box. Hauling insults when mistake is made is not a way forward.

I asked someone to do electrical piping for me. Even after I explained everything that I don't intend to use external changeover switch (that I have an DIN type I want to use in the DB and so every pipe should terminate in the DB), the contractor still went ahead and create the usual external changeover type. When I enquire he said he couldn't fathom how possible I could realise my dream, that he doesn't want to spoil his work. Of course, I was furious as the walls had already been plastered. His apology doused the tension. Breaking would have cost me more money so I had to make some adjustment and adapt. It's always very painful when what you get is not what you ordered for.

@michilin, you may feel that you took the right decision and that you're right. Service delivery goes beyond contract signing (agreement), to delivery and customers satisfaction. Without the bolded, you loose referrals.

If you and your client are willing, you can resolve this amicably. Put a call across; show empathy.

rotecch77:
Let me talk Generally on burglar bars
I’m not using this to support any side.
As I was thought in sch as building tech student then which I’m also putting into practice at site.

Case of burglar bars
Let assumed your block opening is 1200*1200
You need to reduce 25mm from all four sides of the WALL OPENINGS.( this is for plastering gauge)

Then you will also consider 15mm reductions from all 4 sides agains ( for alignment)

Now you will left with 25+15mm =40mm
You final burglar size to be delivered to the site will be 1160mm * 1160mm.

This also applicable to door.

rotecch77:
Let’s do small tutorial on door ( let’s use ft and inches here)

Regular 3ft door as example,
- wall opening size width 3ft
- wall opening size height 7ft
Door frame 7*3 ft

Door leaf size; you will reduce 2” (50mm) from up, side A,side B and threshold[(this will take care of tiles or any floor finishings thickness)
( this reduction is for the frame)]
Now your door leaf size will be
- width 2ft 8”
- height 6ft 8”

So don’t expect your door to be 3ft by 7ft
When your builder, engr, or artisan deliver your door

somehow:


And madam, did you did ask questions on what to expect when you contacted him?

michlins:
oga mi I have tried my possible best to appease this woman. But she made it her ultimate goal to frustrate me.


Someone who couldn't stop me from waking up now wants me stop me from getting my goals. Are you my God or what exactly are you

michlins:
sir I am a vendor here and still I am human who deserves a respect. If you take offense with my response and feel ok with her statement, I don't know what to say about it.


She gave me a measurement saying she wants 7ft by 3ft. I deducted 3" from the measurements for the plastering. How on earth is this fraud? Go anywhere, this is the industrial standard. It has been discussed extensively here. She's quick to bring screenshots here. Do you know what she has said to me over the phone and how she has insulted me. Even a slave deserve a better treatment

n3xt:


Meanwhile here are samples of his work.

Enyinne:
I was very specific about my request. What price is 3ft door was my question and request and remember when u was sounding Rude to me on chat , i warned u about insulting me see attached screenshots
You will never have peace in this forum until u sort out this door issue . U short the pan and still make a one side design and charged 60k . Maybe u think i dont know whats called value for money for u to cheat to this great extent.

n3xt:


Remember to lock the gate and give the key to Baba Bili!

Good Night!!

michlins:
sir I am a vendor here and still I am human who deserves a respect. If you take offense with my response and feel ok with her statement, I don't know what to say about it.


She gave me a measurement saying she wants 7ft by 3ft. I deducted 3" from the measurements for the plastering. How on earth is this fraud? Go anywhere, this is the industrial standard. It has been discussed extensively here. She's quick to bring screenshots here. Do you know what she has said to me over the phone and how she has insulted me. Even a slave deserve a better treatment

megacontrol:
When you are fabricating a steel or wooden door from scratch then it can and should be made to order. Simples.

EgunMogaji2:


Oga mi, what size is this shower?

michlins:
you're still my customer and you gave me your money. I don't want to bring chats here. It's ok to skip what you said to me over the phone and stuff.

Measure that pan, it's 2ft which is the size of pan. Everything about the job I did according to our agreement. Say I cut off 3", what will it amount to? Am I going to make another door with 3". Say that the size of materials are reducing from the producers whilst price keeps increasing.

I have been very detailed to you and asked you to get another anonymous welder to verify my claims. Go to your local market and measure the pans, they're 23.5". The manufacturers are creating all these issues while we the artisans answer the questions. To increase the size beyond what it currently is, I will add pipes in-between the doors and you won't like it. That's not alone, if I measure a job and it's 3ft,if I bring exactly same size to the place,it will never enter freely. You must break wall.

2-3" will never stop your household appliances. This is why I advise people to make all entry and exit points 4ft doors to avoid the issue of moving properties

Godisgreatest1:


I'm still trying to understand how a 3ft door will fit exactly in a 3 feet space. I think either the space is broken above 3 feet or the size of the door is reduced 'slightly'.

I won't be expecting an exact 3ft door that will make me break walls just to accommodate a door. Also, I don't think 1.5" reduction is an obstruction to passage of furnitures. I had to read over and over again to be sure I saw the 1.5" clearly and other reasons for the complain. May God save us all.

gbadexy:

I will send you some color charts sir.

Enyinne:
Bring chat where i insulted u and let me bring chat where u was practically talking down on me cos u hv collected money . I was specific of my demand and u issued invoice to that effect. Tellin me about choking the door hence u reduced the door . Did u discuss that with me ? Hv u seen the place where the door will be installed before? U made a one face design on ur own accord without sharing the information with me and same u are shorting the door size too ? What exactly did i pay 60k for if not to serve ur greediness . Come and pick up the doors and refund me . I'm not having this slide too .
I bought 4Ft turkish door and 3 ft turkish doors all fit perfectly to my space and when measured it's exactly 3ft and plus .
Oga i demand u pick up this door and refund me to whoever it pleases . What i paid for was 3ft door and no less

n3xt:

Rexology:
Is this job well done by the electrician?

michlins:
sir you won't understand. It wasn't that long that an engineer gave a client a measurement and I did same. Did the job to site and it couldn't fit. The engineer said I should have known better to reduce the sizes. In his words, "I should know better"