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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Powerexpert: 1:38pm On Oct 12, 2022
Gurus in the house.

Which of these options is okay during Gerrard roofing.

1. Plastering the concrete facial before the water collector and Gerrard laying.

2. Plastering the concrete facial during water collector and Gerrard laying.

3. Finishing the water collector and Gerrard laying while Plastering the opening along the water water collector together with the concrete facial.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Advocatesam(f): 1:44pm On Oct 12, 2022
topsy23:


Lolzz are you a member of ASUU

Yes sir, we are now vulnerable to hunger but las las, the strike is ending

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 1:44pm On Oct 12, 2022
topsy23:


Lolzz are you a member of ASUU

No be small thing..heard they will call it off next weeek
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 2:46pm On Oct 12, 2022
Advocatesam:


Yes sir, we are now vulnerable to hunger but las las, the strike is ending

God will touch the heart of our government on this issue. Majority of us experience it during our undergraduate
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kentucky404: 3:18pm On Oct 12, 2022
rotecch77:


Thanks mr/s kemturkey
Actually I have said it that I will not reply him on this matter agains but bcs of you I will just go straight to the point again is short form

The 1st time he called me A STUPID Man was when he raise an issue and said that he should not let us argue much on the matter I will resolve the matter .. boom he called me STUPID haha

Second time I we have discussed an issue for several minute and I told him that I need to go now that we revisit it again .. boom he called me STUPID Man again. Then I warn him not to say such again .. I have all the chart evidence for this.

Now to issue of leakage as I explained in my 1st post
1. Leakage is caused by a bend plank ( this is normal in construction) in ONLY one point which we did and up till now No leakage there .

The rest of the leakage was caused by artisan he employed which his site supervisor was well aware of these and I still repair if for him without paying me KOBO bcs he turn the whole matter to fight and I just play gentle man here to make things fine after his supervisor begged that I should just do my best and leave the rest for GOD.
The tanks area I covered which cost me 100lk was a discussion btw me and him on how to save cost on scalfolding of about 1.6m and i prover system of puting the tank up but I said if it didn’t work then we covered it back,
He didn’t pay me for this

Now your tiler caused another leakage again ( this room didn not leak for one day since beginning ooo ) and you rush to call me to fix that again when all evidence shown the real men behind this
Damage .. you now asked me to repair it again free Who does that ?

This are part of additional cost to my head plus electrical in some area of the building which caused about 70k plus or so I have the chart records he said never he will not pay , when such area was not in our discussion at the beginning and it’s doesn’t reflect on the drawing, immediately he paid for the electrical bill finished he stared bring all this additional.. I have the record of the complain to him then

I know his plan bcs he didn’t want to pay my balance of 250k plus all those mentioned above

Bcs you see we vendor and contractor as hungry man here in Nigeria Abii

He said, he made an apology for that already.

Forget about that roof, that is entirely your responsibility because there was leakage before anyone climbed on it....... you blamed the first leakage on a bent wood, which is still your fault. your roofer probably bought substandard materials.

According to your client, he does not wanna drag it any further. Just apologize and let peace reign.




Mr Akinola98 : what is your agreement with rotech on tank area that was covered?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinola98: 3:30pm On Oct 12, 2022
Kentucky404:


He said, he made an apology for that already.

Forget about that roof, that is entirely your responsibility because there was leakage before anyone climbed on it....... you blamed the first leakage on a bent wood, which is still your fault. your roofer probably bought substandard materials.

According to your client, he does not wanna drag it any further. Just apologize and let peace reign.




Mr Akinola98 : what is your agreement with rotech on tank area that was covered?

Thanks Again

I had already replied this morning about reservoir .. all money issues he mentioned with evidence.. see below � pls

You are still blaming the other workers on site for the shitty job u did ….. Just because u think they took your job ….. Remember we only agreed on carcass not finishing stage .

Moreover, the roof was already in bad state before any worker did any job there …. Leaking in multiple places …. Ur roofer was there over 5 times to fix ( see below � my several notifications screenshot)

People are not daft here … they have seen both sides evidences …. And more than 5 independent people here have voiced out how bad the job was


Now that people know u are incompetent, fraudulent and a big liar …. U are trying to divert attention to money… which is all u care about …NOT THE JOB OR CLIENT SATISFACTION…. but I will address it one more time here

Just like I said in my earlier post … i ONLY owe u 250k (plastering balance), which I intentionally hold to pay for all your job corrections u refused to attend to …. If there is any change left… I will credit ur account with it

In regards of the overhead water reservoir… u suggested it …. I accepted it but I did not tell u that I could not afford the iron one ….. U were not able to construct the reservoir…. U struggled with it … it was given lots of issues which u corrected over 4 times but failed … so u decided to close the space …. So why should I give u 100k for the closure ( due to ur incompetency) when I already gave u over 400k for the construction of the reservoir??NO!

For electricals, U and I had agree on the total cost for the conduit piping before work started …but in between u came back asking for more money …. For what reason nah ….. without any additional tasks added o ….…. See screenshots �

Why do u always do this ??…… U will lower your initial total cost to get a contract….At the middle of the contract, u will start giving flimsy excuses to get more money…. THATS UNPROFESSIONAL AND FRAUD!!

I paid u additional over 2million naira over the agreed total cost for carcass job …. When u were giving flimsy excuses as usual at f middle of the job …. So how much is 100k to give u ….. but I refused to be EXTORTED THIS TIME
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kentucky404: 3:48pm On Oct 12, 2022
akinola98:


Thanks Again

I had already replied this morning about reservoir .. all money issues he mentioned with evidence.. see below � pls

You are still blaming the other workers on site for the shitty job u did ….. Just because u think they took your job ….. Remember we only agreed on carcass not finishing stage .

Moreover, the roof was already in bad state before any worker did any job there …. Leaking in multiple places …. Ur roofer was there over 5 times to fix ( see below � my several notifications screenshot)

People are not daft here … they have seen both sides evidences …. And more than 5 independent people here have voiced out how bad the job was


Now that people know u are incompetent, fraudulent and a big liar …. U are trying to divert attention to money… which is all u care about …NOT THE JOB OR CLIENT SATISFACTION…. but I will address it one more time here

Just like I said in my earlier post … i ONLY owe u 250k (plastering balance), which I intentionally hold to pay for all your job corrections u refused to attend to …. If there is any change left… I will credit ur account with it

In regards of the overhead water reservoir… u suggested it …. I accepted it but I did not tell u that I could not afford the iron one ….. U were not able to construct the reservoir…. U struggled with it … it was given lots of issues which u corrected over 4 times but failed … so u decided to close the space …. So why should I give u 100k for the closure ( due to ur incompetency) when I already gave u over 400k for the construction of the reservoir??NO!

For electricals, U and I had agree on the total cost for the conduit piping before work started …but in between u came back asking for more money …. For what reason nah ….. without any additional tasks added o ….…. See screenshots �

Why do u always do this ??…… U will lower your initial total cost to get a contract….At the middle of the contract, u will start giving flimsy excuses to get more money…. THATS UNPROFESSIONAL AND FRAUD!!

I paid u additional over 2million naira over the agreed total cost for carcass job …. When u were giving flimsy excuses as usual at f middle of the job …. So how much is 100k to give u ….. but I refused to be EXTORTED THIS TIME

Sorry. Seen already. Sorry about your experience Mr Akin. @Rotech77 you are only trying to defend yourself, you already made a mistake, Ur client does not want any problem, I want to believe you are a gentleman, just Apologize to him.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Janesouthall: 4:19pm On Oct 12, 2022
bolu1986:


8 to 10mm

But if a client want 15mm can it be done...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 4:21pm On Oct 12, 2022
Aforxzy:
It's a good option but costlier..but how about the finishing. You can't plaster over it .



It can be boarded over and plaster or decorated over with brick slips (eg South Africa brick slips).
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 4:24pm On Oct 12, 2022
hamtabfawaz:


Isn't there other ways to cover it!

cc @diordaves

There are ways you can perfectly cover it or you can leave it exposed and paint over it and it becomes like a decorative fixure of the building.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dannie007(m): 5:08pm On Oct 12, 2022
It can be done but you will need to consider the Load!! The Roofing Cieling structure needs to be Solid



Janesouthall:


But if a client want 15mm can it be done...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abbeyb1ack: 5:09pm On Oct 12, 2022
Advocatesam:


I will continue to refer your company again again again and again because the client do not need to supervise your work before you do the right thing. Your sincerity is second to none. Continue to be a good man sir because you are one of the few Nigerians that could still be trusted sir. I am not hyping you but saying the obvious here

Thank you so much for the gift. 40k no be small money at this period FG dey owe me 8 months salary. God bless you so much sir

Truth be told natn swt me pass his fast response and always ready to deliver ASAP ....very calm...and over all....HE GET LISTENING EAR

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 5:13pm On Oct 12, 2022
bolu1986:


8 to 10mm

Actually it should be 12mm. Better support, better soundproofing, better fire retardant. 10mm could be acceptable but 8mm?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Godisgreatest1: 5:23pm On Oct 12, 2022
akinola98:



You are still blaming the other workers on site for the shitty job u did ….. Just because u think they took your job ….. Remember we only agreed on carcass not finishing stage .

Moreover, the roof was already in bad state before any worker did any job there …. Leaking in multiple places …. Ur roofer was there over 5 times to fix ( see below � my several notifications screenshot)

People are not daft here … they have seen both sides evidences …. And more than 5 independent people here have voiced out how bad the job was


Now that people know u are incompetent, fraudulent and a big liar …. U are trying to divert attention to money… which is all u care about …NOT THE JOB OR CLIENT SATISFACTION…. but I will address it one more time here

Just like I said in my earlier post … i ONLY owe u 250k (plastering balance), which I intentionally hold to pay for all your job corrections u refused to attend to …. If there is any change left… I will credit ur account with it

In regards of the overhead water reservoir… u suggested it …. I accepted it but I did not tell u that I could not afford the iron one ….. U were not able to construct the reservoir…. U struggled with it … it was given lots of issues which u corrected over 4 times but failed … so u decided to close the space …. So why should I give u 100k for the closure ( due to ur incompetency) when I already gave u over 400k for the construction of the reservoir??NO!

For electricals, U and I had agreed on the total cost for the conduit piping before work started …but in between u came back asking for more money …. For what reason nah ….. without any additional tasks added o ….…. See screenshots �

Why do u always do this ??…… U will lower your initial total cost to get a contract….At the middle of the contract, u will start giving flimsy excuses to get more money…. THATS UNPROFESSIONAL AND FRAUDULENT !!

I paid u additional over 2million naira over the agreed total cost for carcass job …. When u were giving flimsy excuses as usual at the middle of the carcass job …. So how much is 100k to give u ….. but I refused to be EXTORTED THIS TIME


Sir, sincere apologies for your loss and the inconveniences so far.

I am a client and what I do is to contact artisans that are specialized for specific areas in building and construction.

For example: if I am in roofing stage, I contact a specialist in roofing houses. If I want electrical installations, I contact a specialist too.

Sir, if you had done this in 'speciality-determines-involvement' method, you won't be having this argument today.

There are several disadvantages of given 'contracts' in building and construction ranging from poor supervision to purchase of substandard materials to use of cheap labor.

If you knew he was a 'bricklayer', why then did you expect him to roof your house without expecting it to leak?..I ask politely please?

Sir, Don't we have resident roofers in this platform that are specialized in roofing houses. I won't name them so I won't sound bias.

Concerning the pillar, Sir, you mean you saw this pillar and you still allowed the same person to roof your house?.

Kindly take note of these for future reference. Thank you Sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Janesouthall: 5:29pm On Oct 12, 2022
dannie007:
It can be done but you will need to consider the Load!! The Roofing Cieling structure needs to be Solid




Ok...thanks for the insight.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinola98: 5:45pm On Oct 12, 2022
Godisgreatest1:


Sir, sincere apologies for your loss and the inconveniences so far.

I am a client and what I do is to contact artisans that are specialized for specific areas in building and construction.

For example: if I am in roofing stage, I contact a specialist in roofing houses. If I want electrical installations, I contact a specialist too.

Sir, if you had done this in 'speciality-determines-involvement' method, you won't be having this argument today.

There are several disadvantages of given 'contracts' in building and construction ranging from poor supervision to purchase of substandard materials to use of cheap labor.

If you knew he was a 'bricklayer', why then did you expect him to roof your house without expecting it to leak?..I ask politely please?

Sir, Don't we have resident roofers in this platform that are specialized in roofing houses. I won't name them so I won't sound bias.

Concerning the pillar, Sir, you mean you saw this pillar and you still allowed the same person to roof your house?.

Kindly take note of these for future reference. Thank you Sir.

Good question!!
I never knew he was just a mere glorified bricklayer, parading himself as civil engineer or builder

I got carried away with various fine houses he put on his thread …. Not knowing it was all camouflage…. I now know better

I agree with u to an extent that it is better to build and use workers with specialisation….. which was the reason I only signed carcass delivery with him so that my finishing will be done by specialists ( which is what is happening now on my site ) …. Even though, he fought to do the finishing job too but I declined… Thank God for wisdom

I believe that part of carcass delivery is roofing too. … and this is not my first time of doing it this way too … my phase 1 will be carcass by builder/civil engineer..,, phase 2 is finishing by my own chosen specialist team …… it just didn’t work well with this time but all will be fine . Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 5:54pm On Oct 12, 2022
diordaves:


Actually it should be 12mm. Better support, better soundproofing, better fire retardant. 10mm could be acceptable but 8mm?

You are correct sir.. in case of ceiling speakers and all...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 5:57pm On Oct 12, 2022
Godisgreatest1:


Sir, sincere apologies for your loss and the inconveniences so far.

I am a client and what I do is to contact artisans that are specialized for specific areas in building and construction.

For example: if I am in roofing stage, I contact a specialist in roofing houses. If I want electrical installations, I contact a specialist too.

Sir, if you had done this in 'speciality-determines-involvement' method, you won't be having this argument today.

There are several disadvantages of given 'contracts' in building and construction ranging from poor supervision to purchase of substandard materials to use of cheap labor.

If you knew he was a 'bricklayer', why then did you expect him to roof your house without expecting it to leak?..I ask politely please?

Sir, Don't we have resident roofers in this platform that are specialized in roofing houses. I won't name them so I won't sound bias.

Concerning the pillar, Sir, you mean you saw this pillar and you still allowed the same person to roof your house?.

Kindly take note of these for future reference. Thank you Sir.

Ogami I pray that your wisdom will not diminished!!!

This is how it should be.. but there are some engr who are not greedy that will still assign the same job to a professional.... But some won't.. they will hire a cheap road side labour to the same job.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dapotemi: 6:06pm On Oct 12, 2022
akinola98:


Good question!!
I never knew he was just a mere glorified bricklayer, parading himself as civil engineer or builder

I got carried away with various fine houses he put on his thread …. Not knowing it was all camouflage…. I now know better

I agree with u to an extent that it is better to build and use workers with specialisation….. which was the reason I only signed carcass delivery with him so that my finishing will be done by specialists ( which is what is happening now on my site ) …. Even though, he fought to do the finishing job too but I declined… Thank God for wisdom

I believe that part of carcass delivery is roofing too. … and this is not my first time of doing it this way too … my phase 1 will be carcass by builder/civil engineer..,, phase 2 is finishing by my own chosen specialist team …… it just didn’t work well with this time but all will be fine . Thanks

Good response sir....I gave my roofing to a good carpenter and he did a good job..After commending him, he came back to say "oga give me the tiling, give me pop. he started bidding for window, plumbing, door etc".. i say chairman, your work ends in roofing, oya get out of here.
You just have to be careful with this artisan/engr, dont let them lure you with cheap quotation. God will touch rotechh's heart..
"O tin di gbogbo igba".

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hatesin: 6:09pm On Oct 12, 2022
Godisgreatest1:


Sir, sincere apologies for your loss and the inconveniences so far.

I am a client and what I do is to contact artisans that are specialized for specific areas in building and construction.

For example: if I am in roofing stage, I contact a specialist in roofing houses. If I want electrical installations, I contact a specialist too.

Sir, if you had done this in 'speciality-determines-involvement' method, you won't be having this argument today.

There are several disadvantages of given 'contracts' in building and construction ranging from poor supervision to purchase of substandard materials to use of cheap labor.

If you knew he was a 'bricklayer', why then did you expect him to roof your house without expecting it to leak?..I ask politely please?

Sir, Don't we have resident roofers in this platform that are specialized in roofing houses. I won't name them so I won't sound bias.

Concerning the pillar, Sir, you mean you saw this pillar and you still allowed the same person to roof your house?.

Kindly take note of these for future reference. Thank you Sir.



Am sure you didn't wake up one morning and started using those specialist you mentioned. Experience taught you to start using them. And until you have encountered any of these "WE DESIGN AND BUILD GROUP OF COMPANIES" you can never know how smart they can be with their "TRIAL AND ERROR" Professionalism with people's houses.
So it's only an encounter with them that can expose the client.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 7:15pm On Oct 12, 2022
money121:
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rafshef(m): 7:23pm On Oct 12, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chairmanawe(m): 7:31pm On Oct 12, 2022
Thk u sir for your response
bolu1986:


8 to 10mm
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rafshef(m): 7:33pm On Oct 12, 2022
Cctv camera

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chairmanawe(m): 7:34pm On Oct 12, 2022
Thk u sir for your response
diordaves:


Actually it should be 12mm. Better support, better soundproofing, better fire retardant. 10mm could be acceptable but 8mm?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 7:50pm On Oct 12, 2022
Rafshef:
Cctv camera
What's the price range sir?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 7:51pm On Oct 12, 2022
hamtabfawaz:
Airport Plans for island (Lekki/Ajah/Epe Axis)

Someone said: “it's time to get land around those axis"

I believe the prices of lands / houses in that area would increase immediately the construction of Airport commence.

Opinions are welcomed.

Good morning Baba @Egunmogaji2 , been a while Sir.


https://www.nairaland.com/7376977/offer-professional-guidance-lekki-airport#117456569

I was thinking of selling 3 lands there but after hearing the news, I immediately kept 2 away.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rafshef(m): 8:07pm On Oct 12, 2022
olukaygold:

What's the price range sir?
depending on the type of camera,

There's Analog camera 2MP, 3MP, 4MP etc

Colorful Analog Camera 2M, 4M, 5Mp etc

IP camera 2Mp, 4MP etc

You can contact us on

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rafshef@gmail.com
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 9:01pm On Oct 12, 2022
Rafshef:
depending on the type of camera,

There's Analog camera 2MP, 3MP, 4MP etc

Colorful Analog Camera 2M, 4M, 5Mp etc

IP camera 2Mp, 4MP etc

You can contact us on

@adeoyek3 IG
rafshef@gmail.com
+2347036887546
Can you pls explain everything here esp the prices,it might interest others as well.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dashlish12: 9:13pm On Oct 12, 2022
somehow:


I was thinking of selling 3 lands there but after hearing the news, I immediately kept 2 away.
. Sir good evening, i presume you are doing wonderfully great. I got some land for sale at that axis at the rate of 700k/plot (non negotiable) direct from the family with only survey papers. Dont know if you be interested or reference. Btw, My apologies for coming to your mention sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 9:29pm On Oct 12, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by cash1115(m): 9:48pm On Oct 12, 2022
Powerexpert:
Gurus in the house.

Which of these options is okay during Gerrard roofing.

1. Plastering the concrete facial before the water collector and Gerrard laying.

2. Plastering the concrete facial during water collector and Gerrard laying.

3. Finishing the water collector and Gerrard laying while Plastering the opening along the water water collector together with the concrete facial.

Oga pls give us your pop ceiling we give you the best

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