ThatHistoryGuy:


On wood floor do you mean pvc laminate or hardwoods

On hardwood I don't know but on PVC laminate people use it here in Nigeria though not as much as they use tiles.
And the its very lasting but more costlier than tiles most time.

Look at 12mm PVC laminate imported from Swiss I can guarantee you 15yrs and more

Permission sir mufutau55

AngelicBeing:
l, honestly want to read the solution you say lies with the same people because people have been killed in Nigeria for refusing to give bribes to blood thirsty cops on the roads, some diasporans came to help rejig the government, some were frustrated out of the system and they returned back to their adopted country.

Look at the police force of Nigeria, if you Daboomb is appointed to be the IG of police and you role out your plans to revive the police and to weed or reduce corruption, as long as you don't step on toes while discharging your duties, you are safe, the day you touch the kitchen cabinet of the president or powerful politicians, they will call you to order or remove you, and this is just the police department l am talking about, like spyder880 said, it has permeated all the facet of our national life, if you ask me the way out, I don't think I know how best things can change in Nigeria

AngelicBeing:
Interesting opinion, l agree with your position especially on the need to have an effective data base, linking BVN, drivers license, voters card, national ID with the International passport will be highly recommended if those are the helm of affairs will be ready to do the right thing

Daboomb:


Hmmm.... if l agree with all you wrote above (sadly, l have to agree), it then takes me back to my original question:

Are you saying we are doomed, as a Nation?
Are you saying there is NO SOLUTION?

I am really worried.

somebody or a group of people MUST come up with ideas to get us out of this logjam.
The alternative is that we are doomed, as a nation, and l refuse to acfept that.

Daboomb:


As necessary and good as the above milestones are (and dont forget that almost everyone in Nigeria has a bank account, even just savings accnt, with a BVN Database, some states also have I.D Card database scheme, INEC has its own database, Immigration/Passport office has its own, e.t.c........so the problem cant be a shortage of 'database')............ it wont fly until the Govt agrees and implement stable power supply.
How much does it cost to build a brand new Power Station (using Gas or Nuclear or hydro options)?
Yet, the money Govt has been giving the same 'thieves and fronts' it used in buying up Nepa/PHCN, in form of BAILOUT, is more tha enough to build one!

ENERGY/POWER is the engine of any growth in any country.
After elelctricity, you then move on to Steel

How do you link 'database', when the Server is down or the Network is down, due to no electricity?

So many things are wrong with Nigeria at this moment and l personally think we should jettisson this Democracy, for now.
Let us be honest, it is not working!
Aside GSM, which is a private initiative that was started even before 1999, can someone tell me just ONE THING that has improved in Nigeria, since we started this 3rd Democratic republic? just tell me one.

if l have my way, l will finish-off all our current leaders, from the NASS, to the Executive, to past Presidents, Ministers and purge the Juduciary.
If l have my way, l will ask unemplyed but willing Graduates, to apply for Police job, pay them a minimum of 200K monthly but make them sign an undertaking that any form of bribery/corruption on their part, fetches them a minimum of 10yrs in jail, without an option of fine. I will setup a hightech monitoring team for that purpose.

If l had my way, l will introduce the death penalty for acts of corruption that "affects the state of the Citizens".
For example, if you embezzle money meant to kit Police officers or for their welfare, money meant to build hospitals, money meant for schools, steal PHCN transformer or tamper with electric installations, loot money meant for Borehole and other sundry acts that directly affect the quality of life of the citizens.

if l had my way, for any PUBLIC OFFICER who is saddled with the responsibility of ensuring Public Safety or anything related to such, acts of corruption in that regards will fetch you 15yrs in prison, with hard labour (I will use these multitudes of Prisoners on Rice farms and othe rfarms established all over the country and they must also feed themselves properly).

Acts like approving a defective building, poorly constructed road, fake measures, fake drugs, fake items like cable, drugs or auto-parts, importing and selling dangerous/sub-standard items, e.t.c will attract 15yrs in Prison

A seed needs to 'die' first, before it can 'grow' and produce even more seeds for food.

You will be surprised that the Russia that you think is the most corrupt country in the world, will not bath an eyelid but it is the "Western Countries" that play hypocrisy and benefit from the squalor in Nigeria (they need our best brains to migrate to their country as Doctors, Engineers, Nurses, I.T specialist, e.t.c)... will be the one shouting 'Human Rights Abuse' but rightnow that we Nigerians are suffering and dying, they are not doing ANYTHING to remove such suffering, appart from selling us more weapons to kill ourselves!

Refering to Spyder's post, NO ONE, NO FOREIGN COUNTRY is coming to help us resolve our problems here in Nigeria (infact, they are happy we are dying off like flies because they think we are too many );
We either solve it ourselves, in our own way and style, or we are DOOMED.

Anyway, maybe l am just a harsh and deranged shithead, living in a shithole.

aonag:


the only way out is to split the entire nation. some of you might be angry at this statement but sitdown and reason properly you would understand that this is the only solution

AngelicBeing:
Oh my gosh, Daboomb it means there is no hope then, you have given some practical steps to take the country forward but with the crackheads in government in Nigeria, l don't think they want the country fixed which brings me back to agree that the country might not be out of the woods yet

Rubbiish:

I think it is gypsum ceiling board, they add cornice to it.

Rubbiish:
I think it is gypsum ceiling board, they add cornice to it.

Rubbiish:

What are these laminate pvc made of sir?
Are they more durable than d regular ceramic tiles?

Rubbiish:

U can't take away the fact wood is more prone to fire & other attacks from termite than tiles...

Daboomb:


No Sir, l am already sitting down properly and l still cant understand!

It is up to you, the person that is propounding this theory, to enlighten us more, on why you feel this is so.

As someone has said, even if you split this country into 756 countries, (each LGA become a country of its own), it is just a mere exercise of creating a kingdom for each thief to supervise, independently.

Tell me one REGION in Nigeria, where looting does not occur?
Tell me one STATE in Nigeria, where looting does not occur?
Tell me one Local Govt Area in Nigeria, where looting does not occur?
Show me one street in Nigeria, where there are no thieves or criminals?
Show me one household in Nigeria, were all the members are saints?

Infact, it will be even worse than it is the case now.
Imagine if Fayose was President of 'Yoruba Nation'!
Imagine say Okorocha (Mr Statue) was President of 'Igbo Nation'!
Imagine if say that short man in kaduna (hell-rufai) was President of 'Arewa nation'?

So, we now have three confirmed looters administering over national purse!
And they will also have their own 27 Ministers looting under them
Not to mention their State Governors, Commissioners, e.t.c
Now, what about the National Assembly 'honorables' of each Region, living fat on their taxes?

The above are some of the reasons l think it will get worse, if we split this country, just because of corruption.
What we need is 'mutual respect, equity and fairness', in dealing with every citizen of Nigeria, irrespective of where they come from, religion or gender.

I want to hear your own reasons, on why you think splitting will resolve those problems.
Am willing to learn.

aonag:


I am glad you replied at a point after I saw a thread on El-Rufai and the heavy equipment that he used in LG elections recently. if you have not seen it go and check. you see the problem is that there are states, tribes, entities, authorities and the likes of others who really want to advance than what they are right now, but the problem is that the current federal setup is impeding that. it is not that the system at the moment fights them but the underlying structure is impeding them from moving forward. Let us be honest, the federal govt with its croonies have failed this country to a point of no return and no fix. It was Lagos that tried to provide electricity one time and the federal system shut it down. what I am saying is that if this country was broken down into smaller parts there would definitely be competition and advacements as everybody would like to show the rest that they know their stuff just like the 60s!. I imagine that one of the fastest and easiest way to curb crime now in our system is to have a centralized database system that registers every individua, born and dead persons. the FG have tried to do something similar with the National ID system and failed. you know why? they cannot manage the current system they are running because its too big.

I beleive that if this current system is broken down, one region would implement a system that works and may serve or tweaked as a benchmark for other regions. look at north korea, the reason why they are trying to always develop nuclear weapons is to indirectly tell the south that they are also technologically advanced and to feel big too but we all know that its because they dont want to feel like the ones carrying last. and you see the problem with corruption? there is no mechanism or structure that would prevent you from stealing funds. biometric is the first way to go but not with this present system we have as nigeria because it is going to be sabotaged. Until Nigeria goes back to the system it ran in the 60s, or a split, we would never have that nigeria we are dreaming of..

Daboomb:


I agree with the bolded.
Competition breeds advancement!

I also agree that Biometrics is of utmost importance but l disagree that it is too big for the FG.
Resources needed for Biometrics for 10 states or 6 states or 21 states, is almost the same, aside from the size of Servers required.
Size of the Database, has nothing to do with its success/functionality.
How can you operate Biometrics in an environment where Electricity is only available a few hours in a day?
If is just a joke because you need constant electricity to power the Systems and database.

IMO, l think what we lack is strong, determined and altruistic leadership.
if we have that, other things will start to take shape and people will tow the line.
This is what people thought Buhari was going to give us but alas, he was a huge disappointment.
Now, that is just my own opinion.

ThatHistoryGuy:


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AngelicBeing:
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Daboomb:


As necessary and good as the above milestones are (and dont forget that almost everyone in Nigeria has a bank account, even just savings accnt, with a BVN Database, some states also have I.D Card database scheme, INEC has its own database, Immigration/Passport office has its own, e.t.c........so the problem cant be a shortage of 'database')............ it wont fly until the Govt agrees and implement stable power supply.
How much does it cost to build a brand new Power Station (using Gas or Nuclear or hydro options)?
Yet, the money Govt has been giving the same 'thieves and fronts' it used in buying up Nepa/PHCN, in form of BAILOUT, is more tha enough to build one!

ENERGY/POWER is the engine of any growth in any country.
After elelctricity, you then move on to Steel

How do you link 'database', when the Server is down or the Network is down, due to no electricity?

So many things are wrong with Nigeria at this moment and l personally think we should jettisson this Democracy, for now.
Let us be honest, it is not working!
Aside GSM, which is a private initiative that was started even before 1999, can someone tell me just ONE THING that has improved in Nigeria, since we started this 3rd Democratic republic? just tell me one.

if l have my way, l will finish-off all our current leaders, from the NASS, to the Executive, to past Presidents, Ministers and purge the Juduciary.
If l have my way, l will ask unemplyed but willing Graduates, to apply for Police job, pay them a minimum of 200K monthly but make them sign an undertaking that any form of bribery/corruption on their part, fetches them a minimum of 10yrs in jail, without an option of fine. I will setup a hightech monitoring team for that purpose.

If l had my way, l will introduce the death penalty for acts of corruption that "affects the state of the Citizens".
For example, if you embezzle money meant to kit Police officers or for their welfare, money meant to build hospitals, money meant for schools, steal PHCN transformer or tamper with electric installations, loot money meant for Borehole and other sundry acts that directly affect the quality of life of the citizens.

if l had my way, for any PUBLIC OFFICER who is saddled with the responsibility of ensuring Public Safety or anything related to such, acts of corruption in that regards will fetch you 15yrs in prison, with hard labour (I will use these multitudes of Prisoners on Rice farms and othe rfarms established all over the country and they must also feed themselves properly).

Acts like approving a defective building, poorly constructed road, fake measures, fake drugs, fake items like cable, drugs or auto-parts, importing and selling dangerous/sub-standard items, e.t.c will attract 15yrs in Prison

A seed needs to 'die' first, before it can 'grow' and produce even more seeds for food.

You will be surprised that the Russia that you think is the most corrupt country in the world, will not bath an eyelid but it is the "Western Countries" that play hypocrisy and benefit from the squalor in Nigeria (they need our best brains to migrate to their country as Doctors, Engineers, Nurses, I.T specialist, e.t.c)... will be the one shouting 'Human Rights Abuse' but rightnow that we Nigerians are suffering and dying, they are not doing ANYTHING to remove such suffering, appart from selling us more weapons to kill ourselves!

Refering to Spyder's post, NO ONE, NO FOREIGN COUNTRY is coming to help us resolve our problems here in Nigeria (infact, they are happy we are dying off like flies because they think we are too many );
We either solve it ourselves, in our own way and style, or we are DOOMED.

Anyway, maybe l am just a harsh and deranged shithead, living in a shithole.

folmus:
Folks, what're the prices of 16mm, 12mm rod pieces? @chekitaut.

kopell:
Man, Nigeria is not shorts of ideas that will benefit it citizens, you just mentioned few that can straighten the system. The question is do we have political will to enforce rules of law? Our problem is us the people, that does things in tribal and religion line. One of my friend was in China as we speak for the first time to travel out of Africa, he called me yesterday telling how 1- 3 State he visited in China is bigger then entire country of ours very well organized and the wonders he saw there. My first question to him is how many mega church and mosque did he saw there, his response Na only factory’s I saw here oh. He conclusions is just like your words if he as his way he will take out all our politicians that keep our people in poverty out. Imagine, China is third world country 25-30 years ago, how do they do it in that short time to be second largest economy in world. Every Chainis is Chainis not from north, south, east west or even center, they are all Chainis. Not until we kill corruption keep our religion, tribes, aside and build a nation before tribes and religion, will still stocked where we are today.

kopell:
Man, Nigeria is not shorts of ideas that will benefit it citizens, you just mentioned few that can straighten the system. The question is do we have political will to enforce rules of law? Our problem is us the people, that does things in tribal and religion line. One of my friend was in China as we speak for the first time to travel out of Africa, he called me yesterday telling how 1- 3 State he visited in China is bigger then entire country of ours very well organized and the wonders he saw there. My first question to him is how many mega church and mosque did he saw there, his response Na only factory’s I saw here oh. He conclusions is just like your words if he as his way he will take out all our politicians that keep our people in poverty out. Imagine, China is third world country 25-30 years ago, how do they do it in that short time to be second largest economy in world. Every Chainis is Chainis not from north, south, east west or even center, they are all Chainis. Not until we kill corruption keep our religion, tribes, aside and build a nation before tribes and religion, will still stocked where we are today.

AngelicBeing:
l concur with you, I was listening to a program recently about Belgium, they said Belgium has l think only 23 churches in the entire country, they also said Switzerland, , Finland, Denmark and few western European countries have fewer churches, mosques and religious centers, Nigeria has mosques and churches in almost every street, and yet things are not working, China is more or less an Atheist Nation but most of the microphones, plastic chairs etc used in religious centers in Nigeria are from China

If prayers alone develops a country, Nigeria will be like paradise, until we begin to do the right thing and have a paradigm shift from the way we have been doing things in Nigeria, l am afraid, we shall be having this same conversation in another 50 years from now

Daboomb:


As necessary and good as the above milestones are (and dont forget that almost everyone in Nigeria has a bank account, even just savings accnt, with a BVN Database, some states also have I.D Card database scheme, INEC has its own database, Immigration/Passport office has its own, e.t.c........so the problem cant be a shortage of 'database')............ it wont fly until the Govt agrees and implement stable power supply.
How much does it cost to build a brand new Power Station (using Gas or Nuclear or hydro options)?
Yet, the money Govt has been giving the same 'thieves and fronts' it used in buying up Nepa/PHCN, in form of BAILOUT, is more tha enough to build one!

ENERGY/POWER is the engine of any growth in any country.
After elelctricity, you then move on to Steel

How do you link 'database', when the Server is down or the Network is down, due to no electricity?

So many things are wrong with Nigeria at this moment and l personally think we should jettisson this Democracy, for now.
Let us be honest, it is not working!
Aside GSM, which is a private initiative that was started even before 1999, can someone tell me just ONE THING that has improved in Nigeria, since we started this 3rd Democratic republic? just tell me one.

if l have my way, l will finish-off all our current leaders, from the NASS, to the Executive, to past Presidents, Ministers and purge the Juduciary.
If l have my way, l will ask unemplyed but willing Graduates, to apply for Police job, pay them a minimum of 200K monthly but make them sign an undertaking that any form of bribery/corruption on their part, fetches them a minimum of 10yrs in jail, without an option of fine. I will setup a hightech monitoring team for that purpose.

If l had my way, l will introduce the death penalty for acts of corruption that "affects the state of the Citizens".
For example, if you embezzle money meant to kit Police officers or for their welfare, money meant to build hospitals, money meant for schools, steal PHCN transformer or tamper with electric installations, loot money meant for Borehole and other sundry acts that directly affect the quality of life of the citizens.

if l had my way, for any PUBLIC OFFICER who is saddled with the responsibility of ensuring Public Safety or anything related to such, acts of corruption in that regards will fetch you 15yrs in prison, with hard labour (I will use these multitudes of Prisoners on Rice farms and othe rfarms established all over the country and they must also feed themselves properly).

Acts like approving a defective building, poorly constructed road, fake measures, fake drugs, fake items like cable, drugs or auto-parts, importing and selling dangerous/sub-standard items, e.t.c will attract 15yrs in Prison

A seed needs to 'die' first, before it can 'grow' and produce even more seeds for food.

You will be surprised that the Russia that you think is the most corrupt country in the world, will not bath an eyelid but it is the "Western Countries" that play hypocrisy and benefit from the squalor in Nigeria (they need our best brains to migrate to their country as Doctors, Engineers, Nurses, I.T specialist, e.t.c)... will be the one shouting 'Human Rights Abuse' but rightnow that we Nigerians are suffering and dying, they are not doing ANYTHING to remove such suffering, appart from selling us more weapons to kill ourselves!

Refering to Spyder's post, NO ONE, NO FOREIGN COUNTRY is coming to help us resolve our problems here in Nigeria (infact, they are happy we are dying off like flies because they think we are too many );
We either solve it ourselves, in our own way and style, or we are DOOMED.

Anyway, maybe l am just a harsh and deranged shithead, living in a shithole.

Chekitaut:
12&16mm @N195k
10mm @N200k

folmus:

this price na tons or pieces?