Edited Excerpt taken from The Second Window

UPDATE FROM FATIMA

PLEASE understand that I write this as a loving warning to all devout Catholics out there! I am not interested in the "weak" ones that will email me hatefilled, vulgar email packed with death threats. This warning goes out to those that have a heart for their God and a desire to please Him. There is an attack on the Catholic child that is directly from hell itself. You are being targeted by Satan as prey for the flames of hell. One way in particular is his direct attack on the blessed Mother of Jesus Christ who is BLESSED FOREVER above all women and there is no woman blessed as she! ALL GENERATIONS WILL CALL HER BLESSED!

Luke 1:48, "For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed."
Think of that for a moment. She is blessed, she is Mary, she is the woman God chose to raise His Son on Earth. Now... Read below.. would Mary the real Mother of Jesus speak these words?

In 1917 the "demon" calling itself Mary spoke these words...

"Only I can help you. My Immaculate Heart will be your refuge and the way that will lead you to God." (Read it here for yourself... http://fatima.org/story2.html)
These words are in direct conflict with the Word of God that was spoken out of the mouth of Jesus Christ Himself!

John 14:6, "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
If this demon was really Mary the Mother of Jesus she would NOT be calling her Son and Saviour Jesus Christ a liar! By saying that "Mary" is the "Only one that can help you" is actually saying quite bluntly that Jesus Christ the Saviour of the World cannot and will not help you! this is blatant antichristian teaching. This is just one aspect to what the demon os preaching. the same demon is doing it again in "Medjugorje" today as well. Take a look at what the demon says, and then take a look at what the Bible says. You will be genuinley shocked.

Medjugorje

I could very easily write an entire book on all the evidence that is available today to prove that it is not Mary the mother of Jesus, or even Jesus Christ Himself, that is appearing in Medjugorje, Bayside New York, Highland Park Illinois, or has appeared in such places as Fatima, Lourdes, or countless other places. Maybe some day in the future the Lord will allow me to do just that. For now, I will share what is happening on a frequent basis in NewYork. The "Apparition" calling itself Mary, or "Our Lady of the Roses" as it prefers, has been relaying "Messages from Heaven" for all to read. All we need to do is what the Bible says we must do when this occurs. It will reveal to us exactly who it is that is appearing to these people. The Bible tells us very plainly that we should "believe not every spirit, but try (TEST) the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world." [1John 4:1] The Bible also warns us that in the end-times we will see an increase in demonic activity. The prophecy states that "they are the spirits of devils, working miracles," [Revelation 16:14] But don't take my word for it, lets take a look at what these apparitions are saying before we make a decision. We need to see if they "are of God", and the only way to see if they are is to see if they are consistent with what the Word of God says. If they are truly bringing us messages from Heaven, then these messages will harmonize with the ultimate message. The Bible.

I was driving down the road one day with two of my sons when we noticed a billboard as big as life with huge bold letters proclaiming, "Mary Speaks to America!" It had an "800" phone number on it to call. So I jotted it down and headed home. A week or so after making the call requesting information, I received an envelope packed with information from "Our Lady's Children in Maryland." There was three flyers with tons of "Messages from Heaven", along with 15 promises from Mary. It also contained a supposedly "blessed" rose petal in the package.

The Fifteen Promises of Mary to Christians Who Recite the Rosary
Promise # 9 = "I shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the rosary"
Promise # 14 = All who recite the rosary are my sons, and brothers of my only son Jesus Christ."

First off we learned earlier that the Lord prefers that we "use not VAIN REPETITIONS, as the heathen do" [Matthew 6:7] So the rosary itself, which is repetative prayer, is not consistent with what the Word of God teaches for the method of prayer. Plus we also learned earlier that "there is A GREAT GULF FIXED so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence." [Luke 16:26] So how could Mary deliver anyone out of anyplace? The Bible dosen't say that Mary is our deliverer, it says that "The LORD [is] my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;" [2Samuel 22:2] Plus there is absoulutely no mention of a place called purgatory anywhere in the Bible. If you have a computer with the Bible online try doing a search for the word "purgatory", you will find NOTHING. Next we see that one of the 15 promises states that Jesus is the only son of Mary. This too is in direct conflict with what the Word of God says about the family that Jesus grew up with. As we learned earlier, there are numerous verses that proves Jesus was indeed from a large family. Matthew 13:55-56 alone states that Jesus had four brothers and more than one sister! Does it not say that this Jesus was "the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his BRETHREN, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And his SISTERS, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?"

On one of the flyers it states that Mary says we should "Wear the brown Scapular and other sacramentals." Also it states everyone should "-Keep the statues in your homes." -Bayside "The Lourdes of America" Jesus and Mary Speak to the World Through Veronica Lueken

This is indeed a direct method of teaching the people of the world to break Commandment # 2, which says, "Thou shalt not make unto thee ANY graven image, or ANY likeness of ANYTHING that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." [Exodus 20:4] Remember? A "graven image" and a statue, scapular, medal, sacramental, are all the SAME THING. IDOLS, plain and simple. Did not Jesus say on the cross, "it is finished" [John 19:30] Jesus did NOT say, "It is finished...But wait a minute... My Mom will stop by in 1917, 1930, 1964, 1982, 1994, etc... to let you know what I am up to." Below excerpts are taken from the "Directives from Heaven" circular found within the package.

"Wear any size crucifix that you can find. It does no have to be big or small, but an image of My Son" Directives from Heaven From the vision of "-Our Lady, Sept. 7 1985"
Once again, the Commandment #2 is suggested to be broken. Notice the actual use of the word "image." Seems like a pretty bold attempt to sway many to ignore the second Commandment of God.

"You must keep them upon you, with a crucifix. We demand a crucifix. Directives from Heaven From the vision of "-Jesus, June 18, 1987"
Here it seems the apparition of "Jesus" is demanding that all Catholics break the Commandments that He Himself taught us to keep! Does not Jesus say with His own mouth "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love." [John 15:10] So how is it possible that He would now tell everyone to wear an "image, or likeness that is in Heaven above?" when His Bible tells us that we should not?

The Lord blesses all with a wonderfull and easy to understand clue to keep in mind. The Bible plainly says, "For I am the LORD, I change not;" [Malachi 3:6] Is this not a wonderful way to "test" the spirits that are popping up all over the place? Why would the Lord tell us one thing in His Bible, and another thing in some "apparition" in NewYork, Fatima, or Lourdes? Don't think that this is just some people playing a prank on everyone for reasons of financial gain. These "apparitions" are very real, for the Bible says very simply that "Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." [2 Corinthians 11:14] Satan does indeed use this method to decieve many! As a matter of fact, the devil will use even more miraculous methods for all to see very soon. You can count on it! He knows his time is short, he needs to be more persuasive as the end gets closer. What's amazing is the demon calling itself Jesus actually uses Scriptures in a bluntly twisted manner to try and lure more into the Roman Catholic church...

"I wish at this time to stress anew to you that many must go forth as angels of light - angels certainly, My children, without wings, but no less an angel." Roses article "Go forth as angels of light" p. 3 From the vision of "-Jesus June 18, 1994"
Kind of makes you wonder if anyone is reading their Bibles now doesn't it. The prophet Amos did predict most would stop reading Bibles today. This is why so many fall for such lies when the Word of God has it all written down well in advance that it will happen this way. If everyone knew the truth about where people go when they die, the Devil would have absolutely no power to deceive in this way. Everyone would know it's not Mary standing before them, or Saint Therese sending them "roses." For the Devil to use terms like, "angels of light", "purgatory", or "image", proves he has every confidence in the world that those he deceives don't know this is warned of in the Bible. It's almost as if he is "showing off" and proving his control over the population to keep them out of the Bible. This stuff is first grade reader type warnings for everyone to see, yet, if they refuse to look in the Bible they won't see it.

How does the Lord God feel about His children IGNORING His Bible?

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. -Hosea 4:6
It appears...Not to well.



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I actually thought catholics don't read the bible.Mr op,Keep reading the bible and praying,I believe one day u will run away from them.

misreal:
I actually thought catholics don't read the bible.Mr op,Keep reading the bible and praying,I believe one day u will run away from them.

You thought Catholics don't read the Bible because you are terribly misguided and uninformed.

The bible was compiled and canonized by the Catholic Church.

italo:


You thought Catholics don't read the Bible because you are terribly misguided and uninformed.

The bible was compiled and canonized by the Catholic Church.

And u have proof? Or u were told? Or u read it somewhere? Or u were there when they wrote it?

Princesso2,

Anything Mary says or does is by the power of God.

If a doctor saves a dying person, is the doctor not doing it by the knowledge God has given?

David0:


And u have proof? Or u were told? Or u read it somewhere? Or u were there when they wrote it?

The first ruling the Catholic Churchshe gave on the canon was at the Council of Rome, in 382, which affirmed the 46 books of the OT and the 27 books of the NT which are in the Catholic Bible. Then the Councils of Hippo in 393 and of Carthage in 397 did the same. None of these councils were ecumenical, but they were still authoritative. Finally, the Council of Trent, in response to the Protestants removing Wisdom, Sirach, 1 & 2 Maccabees, Judith, Tobit, and Baruch from the OT, dogmatized and closed the canon of Scripture, once and for all.

italo:


The first ruling the Catholic Churchshe gave on the canon was at the Council of Rome, in 382, which affirmed the 46 books of the OT and the 27 books of the NT which are in the Catholic Bible. Then the Councils of Hippo in 393 and of Carthage in 397 did the same. None of these councils were ecumenical, but they were still authoritative. Finally, the Council of Trent, in response to the Protestants removing Wisdom, Sirach, 1 & 2 Maccabees, Judith, Tobit, and Baruch from the OT, dogmatized and closed the canon of Scripture, once and for all.

And how do u know all this?

Let me guess...You read about it, or rather u were told.

No be so?

David0:


And how do u know all this?

Let me guess...You read about it, or rather u were told.

No be so?

Yes. I was told by the Church and historians.

How do you know your father is your father?

You were told, no be so?

italo:


Yes. I was told by the Church and historians.

How do you know your father is your father?

You were told, no be so?

See ur life.

U were told by d same church n historians who also read books dat d catholic compiled d books of d Bible n dat mks it true.

Good for u, but using my father whom we hv blood link as comparison, is very foolish. Think of something else.

David0:


See ur life.

U were told by d same church n historians who also read books dat d catholic compiled d books of d Bible n dat mks it true.

Good for u, but using my father whom we hv blood link as comparison, is very foolish. Think of something else.

Yes. I trust the Church because I have found it to be true. I have examined the historical accounts and found them credible.

How do you know you have blood links with your father?

Somebody told you and you believed.
You see your life.

italo:


Yes. I trust the Church because I have found it to be true. I have examined the historical accounts and found them credible.

How do you know you have blood links with your father?

Somebody told you and you believed.
You see your life.

U trust d Church...OK.

Hope u know d so called church dat doesn't dwell on God's own instructions will lead u to help.

Hope u know dis salvation race is personal.
Hope u know it's about u n u alone.
Hope u know d only way to b saved is thru Jesus Christ.
Hope u know Mrs Mary has long ended her race n has been rewarded according to her work.

If u don't know...Pls go and know nw!

Beside u need not b told who ur father is, blood is thick!

"Deliver from pugatory those who recite the rosary "

Seriously this doctrinal cancer is worse than I thought.

Jeromejnr:
"Deliver from pugatory those who recite the rosary "

Seriously this doctrinal cancer is worse than I thought.

they are receiving themselves. after death cometh judgement.

johnydon22:
Ok have been reading the conversations you honestly have no argument. italo was right, it is a historically proven fact that the bible was a construct of the catholic church... They chose and compiled the books

Oya clap for ursef!!!

misreal:
they are receiving themselves. after death cometh judgement.

Purgatory does not disturb judgement after death.

italo:


Purgatory does not disturb judgement after death.

hahahahahhah.Mr italo..don't worry my man I hope you don't regret your decision on the last day.

misreal:
hahahahahhah.Mr italo..don't worry my man I hope you don't regret your decision on the last day.

Oh! So you can reply me afterall. Means you were just dodging my questions in the other thread.

Well done with your dubious hide-and-seek Christianity.

I don't worry about my decision to follow the Church Jesus gave us

misreal:
they are receiving themselves. after death cometh judgement.

After death comes judgement. Catholics know.

dmandy:


After death comes judgement. Catholics know.

I also hope that they know that no priest,bishop,pastor or even pope will stand in judgement for them.all men will stand for themselves.the time yo know the truth is now because after death..the pope lied will not be an excuse.

italo:

Oh! So you can reply me afterall. Means you were just dodging my questions in the other thread.

Well done with your dubious hide-and-seek Christianity.

I don't worry about my decision to follow the Church Jesus gave us

my man,arguing about this things will never solve the problem.have you ever succeeded in convincing anyone about your faith..but let it not be heard anywhere that you were not warned of the dangers of living in sin..let those who have ears,hear what the spirit is saying.

misreal:
I also hope that they know that no priest,bishop,pastor or even pope will stand in judgement for them.all men will stand for themselves.the time yo know the truth is now because after death..the pope lied will not be an excuse.

No sir,

all for himself

dmandy:

No sir,
all for himself

OK sir,no shaking.

misreal:
OK sir,no shaking.

Thank you Sir

misreal:
my man,arguing about this things will never solve the problem.have you ever succeeded in convincing anyone about your faith..but let it not be heard anywhere that you were not warned of the dangers of living in sin..let those who have ears,hear what the spirit is saying.

Yet you argue...

Until you are asked question that will expose your error...

then you flee...and say "I don't want to argue."

Go and tell your pastors who say 'once saved always saved...even if you keep sinning'...about sin, not me.

I know it already.

misreal:
I also hope that they know that no priest,bishop,pastor or even pope will stand in judgement for them.all men will stand for themselves.the time yo know the truth is now because after death..the pope lied will not be an excuse.

Pope that compiled the bible in 382AD.

Maybe he lied about the compilation too.

Clown.

italo:


Yet you argue...

Until you are asked question that will expose your error...

then you flee...and say "I don't want to argue."

Go and tell your pastors who say 'once saved always saved...even if you keep sinning'...about sin, not me.

I know it already.

hahahahhahahah..the things of the spirit is foolishness to carnal men..my brother,even if I start giving you answers to all your questions you will still not believe..am not scares of you or your questions sir..please stop worshing the queen of heaven..she is a demon...lol..

italo:


Pope that compiled the bible in 382AD.

Maybe he lied about the compilation too.

Clown.

bros you are deceiving yourself,not me..did Mary command you to abuse me too??

italo:


Pope that compiled the bible in 382AD.

Maybe he lied about the compilation too.

Clown.

Italo my guy!

The earlier you see the better.

misreal:
hahahahhahahah..the things of the spirit is foolishness to carnal men..my brother,even if I start giving you answers to all your questions you will still not believe..am not scares of you or your questions sir..please stop worshing the queen of heaven..she is a demon...lol..

You're scared. That's why you'd rather say any other thing under the sun...than answer them.

italo:


You're scared. That's why you'd rather say any other thing under the sun...than answer them.

k.you win.Mary his the queen of heaven.