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Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by knowyaself2(m): 1:26am On Sep 10, 2015
The material below was written for the white audience but it is very informative:

The unavenged outrage: christ's existence not substantiated by historical evidence by Ben Klassen.

It has been fairly well proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Christianity is a suicidal philosophy or teaching. If taken seriously enough by its followers it will destroy them, and if a whole race or nation takes it seriously enough and faithfully attempts to follow the teachings of the The Sermon on the Mount then that whole nation will destroy itself.
The great Roman nation, the finest civilization produced by the White Race in classical times, in the first few centuries A.D., did take Christianity seriously, and it did destroy itself, never to rise again. Where did Christianity originate ? If we read the Jewish Bible, the Old Testament and the New testament, we will not get the correct answers. The fact is Christianity is, and was, a Jewish creation, dreamed up, composed, and promoted by the hierarchy of the Jewish Race, undoubtedly, by the Elders of the Sanhedrin itself.
It is, in fact, an unholy teaching designed to unhinge and derange the White Gentile intellect and to cause him to abandon his real responsibilities of doing that for which Nature created him. It is an unnatural and completely perverted attitude towards the natural surroundings with which nature has provided us. Whereas the full impact of it completely destroyed the Roman Empire within less than two centuries after it became the adopted religion of Rome, it is today still an overriding influence hanging like a shadow over affairs and thinking throughout the world. It is, therefore, important that we trace its origin, despite the fact that much evidence has been deliberately destroyed and many roadblocks have been placed in the way of objectively even considering the evidence that still survives.
Anyone recapturing his senses and looking at that evidence will find hat its origin is much different from what our church fathers today would have us believe. However, let us take at face value what the church fathers and the "Holy" bible are teaching us
today. The first page of the New Testament, Matthew 1, immediately makes it clear that Jesus was a Jew and it traces his genealogy all the way from Abraham through David through Joseph to Christ. At another place it gives the genealogy of Mary, and makes sure that we are fully aware that she, too, is a Jew.
Here, immediately, the first major contradiction is revealed, glaringly revealed, that is, if Jesus was the Son of God how could he also be the son of Joseph ? Anyway, be that as it may, we now look at the disciples of Jesus and the apostles and we find that Matthew, who supposedly wrote the first book in the New Testament, was also called Levi, son of Altheus and was, as so many Jews are, a tax collector in Capernaum. We find that the Apostle Mark, who wrote the second book of the New Testament, was also called John Mark, the son of Mary, in whose home in Jerusalem the early Christians gathered and he was a cousin of Barnabas. We find, that above all, Mark was also a Jew. We now come to St. Luke, who was probably the only Gentile in the group of twelve.
Historians regard him as a Gentile physician. However, he was under the complete dominance of Paul, who was a proselyte Jew, and Luke spent most of his life as a disciple traveling around in the company of Paul, the Jew. We now come to Apostle John whom we find is also a Jew, along with his brothers Peter and James. We now come to the Apostle Paul, who changed his name from the real name of Saul, born in tarsus, of Jewish parents, and a man who was reared strictly in the Jewish tradition of the Pharisees of his time. Of the 27 books of the New Testament, it was Paul who is credited with writing 14 of them and credited with writing well over half of the New Testament itself.
And so it goes. Of the 12 disciples that Christ supposedly had, all of them Jews with the possible exception of Luke and as we noted he was completely under the influence of Paul. It is more than passing strange that, according to the New Testament itself, the writers, preachers, and apostles of this "New Teaching," as well as the supposed founder himself, are all Jews with very little exception. It is more than passing strange also that the Jews themselves never accepted this highly suicidal teaching but were tremendously active in promoting and foisting it on the gentiles in general, and the great Roman nation in particular. We do not doubt that these Jewish characters were fanatically active in promoting the suicidal new teaching of Christianity, nor do we doubt that they had not only hundreds but thousands of Jewish helpers that were the "Hidden Hand" that promoted the spread of this teaching among the Romans and Gentiles in the Roman Empire.
[/b]There is, however, serious doubt that such a character as Jesus Christ ever lived at all, and there is, however, overwhelming evidence to indicate he did not exist, but was figment of the Jewish imagination[b]. The beginning of the Christian era found Rome near the height of her civilization. Her supremacy, in the then known world, was pretty much unchallenged and it was the beginning of a long period of peace. To be specific, Pax Romana (Roman Peace) lasted approximately 200 years beginning with the reign of Caesar Augustus. Rome was highly literate, there were many great writers, scholars, historians, sculptors and painters, not to mention other outstanding men of philosophy and learning. Yet it is highly strange that despite the great commotion and fanfare that supposedly heralded the birth of Christ and also his crucifixion (according to the bible), we find not a single historian nor a single writer of the era who found time to take note of it in their writings. Outside of the fabricated biblical writings, no Roman historian, no Roman writer, and no Roman play-writer, has left the slightest hint that he had the faintest awareness that this supposedly greatest of all greats was in their very midst and preaching what is claimed the greatest of all the new gospels.
Whereas Caesar left voluminous writings that are still extant today and can be studied by our high school boys and girls, Christ himself, who had supposedly the greatest message to deliver to posterity that the world has ever known, left not the slightest scrap of paper on which he had written a single word. This, in fact, the biblical literature itself confirms and mentions only that once he did write in the sand.Today we can still study Cicero;s great orations and writings. He has left over 800 letters behind that we can study to this day.
We can study whole books of what Marcus Aurelius wrote, we can study what Aristotle wrote, what Plato wrote, and scores of others wrote that were contemporary with the first beginning of the Christian era, or preceded it. But strangely there is not a word that is in writing that can be attributed to Jesus Christ himself. Furthermore, the Greeks and the Romans of that era, and even previously and afterwards, had developed the art of sculpturing to a fine state. We can find busts of Cicero, of Caesar, Of Marcus Aurelius and innumerable other Greek and Roman dignitaries and lesser lights, but no one seemed to think it important enough to sculpture a likeness of Jesus Christ. And the reason undoubtedly is there was none to model at the time.
There were undoubtedly numerous skilled artists and painters at that time, but again strangely enough none took the time or the interest to paint a likeness of this purportedly greatest of all teachers, who in fact was proclaimed the son of God come to earth. But no painting was ever made of this man, who, we are told, gathered great multitudes around him and caused great consternation and fear even to King Herod of Judea himself.
Now all of this is very, very strange, when, if, as the Bible claims, the birth of Jesus Christ was ushered in with great fanfare and great proclamations. Angels proclaimed his birth. An exceedingly bright star pointed to his place of birth. In Matt. 2:3, it says, "When Herod, the king, had heard of these things he was troubled and all Jerusalem with him." We can hardly gather from this that no one was aware of the fact that the King of the Jews, the great Messiah, was born, for we are told in the preceding verse that the Wise Men came to King Herod himself saying, "Where is he that is born King of the Jews, for we have seen his star in the East and we are come to worship him." Evidently the event was even lit up with a bright star from heaven.
In any case, King Herod, we are told in Matt. 3, was so worried that he sent the Wise Men to Bethlehem to search diligently for the young child to bring it to him so he undoubtedly could have him put to death. As the story further unfolds we learn that Joseph heard of this and quietly slipped out in the night taking with him his wife, the young child and a donkey and departed for Egypt. When Herod found out that he had been tricked it says that he "was exceedingly wroth and sent forth and slew all children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under." Now this is a tremendously drastic act for a King to take, that is, to have murdered all the children in the land that were under two years of age. Again we can hardly say that the birth of Jesus was unheralded, unannounced and unobserved, according to the story in the bible. However, it is very, very strange that this act of Herod, as drastic and criminally harsh as it is, is nowhere else recorded in the histories or writings of any of the other numerous writers of the times. All we have is the claims of those people who wrote the New Testament. In fact, whoever wrote the New Testament invented so many claims that are inconsistent with the facts that they even made a rather glaring error by pulling King Herod into the story. History tells us that in the year 1 A.D. When Christ was supposedly born, Herod had already been dead for four years. He could hardly been disturbed or very wroth about the birth of anybody in the year 1 A.D.
There is further great evidence that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John never wrote any of those chapters that are supposedly attributed to them. What historical evidence can be dug up reveals that they were written much later, not at the time that Jesus supposedly said all those things, but somewhere around 30 to 50 years later by a person or persons unknown.

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Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by knowyaself2(m): 1:28am On Sep 10, 2015
Furthermore, when we compare the first four books of the gospel with each other, which supposedly tell more or less the same story, we find that they contradict each other in so many details that one need only read them for himself to pick them out. I neither have the time, the space, not the inclination to go into all these contradictions. They are too numerous. I do not contend that it really makes a great deal of difference whether there ever was a Jewish character by the name of Jesus Christ that led to the creation of a new religion to be foisted on the Gentiles for their destruction. The point is that, in any case, it was the Jews collectively who created and promoted this new teaching upon and it did destroy the Roman civilization.
Nevertheless, the evidence is overwhelming that these ideas long preceded the Christian era and it was not Christ who came out with them but a Jewish sect called the Essenes who lived on the border of the Dead Sea. It was they who had already evolved the ideas contained in the Sermon on the Mount but have been attributed to Christ. Not only had they evolved the same ideas as set forth in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, but the wording, the phraseology and the sentences were the same and they preceded the supposed time of the Sermon on the Mount by anywhere from 50 to 150 years.
The Essenes were a Jewish religious group living in approximately the first century B.C. And the first century A.D. We have important sources of their contemporary writings in the historian Josephus and also in the philosopher Philo. They are also mentioned by various other Roman and Greek writers of those times in which their religious teachings are revealed in considerable detail. However, in the last twenty years the thousands of Dead Sea Scrolls, many of which were written by the Essenes themselves, reveal a tremendous amount of insight into their religious teachings, and above all, reveal that they preceded and preempted the Sermon on the Mount word for word, so that the so-called "new" teachings of a figure supposedly appearing from heaven in the year 1 A.D. And preaching during the years 3 to 33 A.D. Were neither original nor were they new.
Furthermore, we learn that the Essenes were notable for their communistic society, their extreme piety and purity and their practice of celibacy. They possessed all their worldly goods in common and looked upon private property as an evil which might divert them from sanctity. They engaged in agriculture and handicrafts, considering these occupations less sinful than others. They also practiced baptism, and this practice preceded the the Christian era by at least one hundred. So the Christian apostles can hardly be credited with having instituted the ritual of baptism, as is claimed.
Why, the average reader might ask, haven't we been told more about the Essenes if they were the original practitioners of Christianity? There are two good and overriding answers for that. The Christians on their part, although the early Christian fathers were well aware of the Essene teachings and writings, took every measure possible to destroy them and purge them from circulation. The reason being they did not want their presence known because it would undermine their dogma that Christ was the originator of the New teaching. It would make impossible the claim that this was a great new revelation sent forth by God himself amid the hosannas and singing of angels. The Jews, on the other hand, did not want to reveal the presence of the Essenes because they wish to completely hide any connection between the Jews and the new religious teaching that they were about to administer unto the Gentiles. They even went to great lengths to appear hostile to it.
Before I go further into the highly illuminating and highly interesting Dead Sea Scrolls I want to make just one further point that is that the original manuscripts on which the New Testament supposedly based is always alluded to being translated from the "Original Greek." Since the New Testament repeats over and over again and again that Paul spoke to his flock in Jewish and that Jesus spoke in Jewish and that the Apostles were Jewish, why, then, is it that the manuscripts were all in Greek?
The historical facts add up to this : the Jewish hierarchy and undoubtedly the whole conspiracy was well coordinated and had many, many members and co- workers. It was not written at the time of Christ at all, but the movement was given great promotion by the combined efforts of the Jewish nation. As they organized and promoted their ideas further, these were reduced to writing considerably later than the years 30 to 33 A.D. When Christ supposedly came out with these startlingly and "new" revelations. The conclusions are that they were written by Jewish persons whose identity we shall never know and were written collectively by many authors, were revised from time to time and not only in their original formation and formulation but have been revised time and time again throughout the centuries to become more effective and persuasive propaganda.
However, we want to go further into the teachings of the Essenes and who they were and why their particular teachings were pounced upon by the Jews to be formulated into a well distilled poisonous brew and then fed to the Gentiles. The Dead Sea Scrolls, which are more numerous and much more revealing than the Jewish press of today has informed us much about the teachings and the life of the Essenes. One of the important things that they tell us about the Essenes is that they vanished from the face of the earth after about two centuries of existance and the termination date being somewhere around the year 100 A.D. They were, needless to say, only a very small sect of the Jewish tribes and not a part of the Jewish conspiracy as such. Being outside of the mainstream of Jewish activity and thought, the Jews nevertheless observed from them that this kind of teaching could ruin and destroy a people. The Jews, looking for a way to destroy the Roman nation, who in the year 70 A.D. had destroyed and levelled Jerusalem to the ground, noted well what these teachings were and decided to perpetuate them on the Romans.
Essenism was really a revolutionary new form of social order, an ideal cooperative commonwealth in miniature. Instead of the Messiah, the ideal of the Essenes was the "Teacher of Righteousness." They established a new cooperative communitarian brotherhood and they were the first religious society
to establish and observe the sacraments of baptism and the eucharistic meal. Most important of all they were the firs group to condemn and abolish the age old institution of human slavery. Furthermore, the "Teacher of Righteousness" as promulgated by the Essenes may not have been the first pacifist in history, but he was the first to implement his pacifist theories with an overall practical measure, which if generally adopted, would abolish war. This, of course, was a wonderful religion for the Jews to sell to the Romans, for if they convert the Romans into submissive pacifists they could certainly soon thereafter dominate them in full. And this they did.
The Essenes lived in the area of Qumran near the Dead Sea and according to Philo, the Jewish Philosopher and writer contemporary of that age, "the Essene brotherhood would not allow the manufacture of any weapons or allow within their community any maker of arrows, spears, swords or any manufacture of engines of war, nor any man occupied with a military avocation, or even with peaceful practices which might easily be converted to mischief." Not only does Philo tell us about the Essenes, but also Josephus and Pliny, both contemporary historians, tell us much about the Essenes.
As mentioned before, much is emerging also from the study of the Dead Sea Scrolls. The overriding fact that emerges from the study of the writings of the historians of that time and the Dead Sea Scrolls is this tremendously significant fact: namely that the beliefs, teachings, and practices attributed to Jesus Christ, although not exactly identical in all respects with those of the Essene school, were nevertheless, closer to those of the Essenes than to those of the Bishops of the Ecumenical Council which determined the Nicene Creed of orthodox Christianity.
So we can come to the obvious conclusion that the Christian beliefs and doctrines as supposedly enunciated by Christ in the Sermon on the Mount did not originate at all at that time but at least 100 years earlier from a Jewish sect called the Essenes living near the Dead Sea; that the Elders of Sanhedrin recognized this teaching as being deadly and suicidal; that they further took this doctrine and distilled and refined it into a working creed; the Jews then, with a great deal of energy and tremendous amounts of propaganda (in which they excel), promoted and distributed this poisonous doctrine among the Romans.
Setting this creed down in writing in what is now called the New Testament evolved over the next several centuries. It was written by persons unknown to us today but undoubtedly of Jewish origin. Furthermore, to give it a mystical and heavenly sent deification, they invented the person of Jesus Christ, and claimed that he was the Son of God. Then, having laid the ground work for this new church, they consolidated that power at a meeting in Nicene, where the creation of the new church was solidified, the creed formalized and given official sanctification. Thus, in short, was launched the new church and the new religion of "Jesus Christ" which was fabricated out of thin air. Not a single trace of the Jesus Christ personage can be found in authentic history. Nevertheless, this newly fabricated hoax of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, this idea, with all its suicidal doctrines, was soon to pull down in ruins the great Roman Empire and the great White civilization that went with it.
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Nobody: 2:08am On Sep 10, 2015
what about old testament?
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by knowyaself2(m): 3:22am On Sep 10, 2015
The old testament was also invented by the Jews for their selfish interest.There's nothing original or spiritual about the bible. Most of the concepts were stolen from ancient pegan religion that predates it by thousands of years, and of course were further corrupted to give it a feel of originality.
The Jews created both the bible and quaran out of thin air to enslave the whole world - these two serve as their bulwark of power and control. And the annoying thing is that they even try to fool us by appearing to be hostile to these religions. The Jews excel in occult practices, and Christianity and Islam readily provide them with adequate supply of psychic energy. The everage deluded Christian is innocently devoted and committed, thinking they are worshiping the almighty God.
Jehova, Allah and Jesus Christ are just thoughtforms created by the Jews and made powerful through constant supply of psychic energy via worship, praises, adoration, etc. Then there are extra terristial beings out there impersonating as these fiticious entities - greys, reptilians, and some nordics who made a deal with the vetican: souls(energy) in exchange for power and wealth. These are verified facts, not fables like the bible. People need to wake up - Jewish religion is the highest fraud ever known by humanity.

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Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Scholar8200(m): 9:21am On Sep 10, 2015
The pagan religions eg Baal worship had sexual orgies as part of their rituals for fertility. I wonder where that was encouraged in either Old or New Testament! They also had the regular burning up of their children as part of worship, I wonder when that was commanded.
Israel always suffered (historically verifiable) when they forsook God and turned to other gods meaning it's a fallacy to say that they were following a belief eked out of paganism.
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by knowyaself2(m): 9:01am On Sep 11, 2015
Scholar8200:
The pagan religions eg Baal worship had sexual orgies as part of their rituals for fertility. I wonder where that was encouraged in either Old or New Testament! They also had the regular burning up of their children as part of worship, I wonder when that was commanded.
Israel always suffered (historically verifiable) when they forsook God and turned to other gods meaning it's a fallacy to say that they were following a belief eked out of paganism.
I guess u got ur information from the fiticious story in the bible, let me know the other sources you have to verify ur assertion.
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Scholar8200(m): 9:08am On Sep 11, 2015
knowyaself2:

I guess u got ur information from the fiticious story in the bible, let me know the other sources you have to verify ur assertion.
Search the web on Baal/Molech worship and the involvement of debauchery. Another recent version of Sodom and Gomorrah is Pompeii. Let google take you by the hand down memory lane.
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by jcross19: 10:28am On Sep 11, 2015
knowyaself2:

I guess u got ur information from the fiticious story in the bible, let me know the other sources you have to verify ur assertion.
a man who have been struck by thunder once will tell you there is God likewise you by laying my hand on you, you will display wonder and if you doubt it you can give it a try all these in the name of JESUS. I will cast out that demon in you.
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Heavenly102: 10:24pm On Sep 11, 2015
This is the same message Heinrich Himmler the leader of the infamous SS, and Adolf hitler's closest henchman used to preach
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by knowyaself2(m): 2:22am On Sep 12, 2015
jcross19:
a man who have been struck by thunder once will tell you there is God likewise you by laying my hand on you, you will display wonder and if you doubt it you can give it a try all these in the name of JESUS. I will cast out that demon in you.
I normaly don't respond to such posts as this because they don't make sense. A word of advice: learn to make ur point by facts, not religious sentiments. Have u been able to prove that the bible, both old and new testaments are not ficticious? Anyone that's inclined to think outside that so called holy bible to u is possessed by an evil spirit.
Africans may forever be backwards in spiritual and economic development because by default we are just a bunch of gullible people, most with double digit IQ. Most don't question the dominant belief systems simply because there are born into Christian homes and have been thoroughly indoctrinated and their minds programmed and closed. Trying to reason with such is a complete waste of time.

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Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by knowyaself2(m): 3:16am On Sep 12, 2015
Scholar8200:
Search the web on Baal/Molech worship and the involvement of debauchery. Another recent version of Sodom and Gomorrah is Pompeii. Let google take you by the hand down memory lane.
Well, I've searched the info on google and all I could see are stories and claims with bible references. Couldn't get any authentic secular history associating debauchery and human sacrifice with ancient pagan religion.
However, I think this is a little off my point - that most concepts in the old testament bible were stolen from pagan religion that predated it thousands of years.

The Hebrew written "Five Books of Moses" also known as the "Pentateuch", along with the "Torah" were STOLEN and CORRUPTED from the Egyptian "TAROT." Note- "Torah" is an anagram of "Tarot." The most noted example of the Tarot is the 78 card pack sold in many stores now-a-days and used for fortune telling. The Tarot consists of five suits [where the five was stolen and corrupted from]: the wands/rods of fire, the swords of air, the cups of water, pentacles of earth and trumps of ether] of the human soul, and the message of the Tarot aside from its divination capabilities is the Magnum Opus, which leads to physical and spiritual perfection and immortality. All of this was stolen and corrupted into a fictitious history of the Jews, which has nothing whatsoever to do with spirituality.

The Jewish Talmud instructs the Jewish people to destroy Gentiles and enslave them, as "YHVH" in reality is the Jewish people.

Quote from the Talmud:
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen [Gentile] hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.

The fictitious Jewish "God" "Yaweh/Jehova's" name was inserted, replacing the names of many Gentile/Pagan Gods. The entity "Jehova" is fictitious. The name "Jehova" was stolen from the Roman God "Jove" for one.

Whoso curseth his father or his mother, his lamp shall be put out in obscure darkness. Prov.20:20

STOLEN from:
"Whosoever takes no pride in the names of his father and mother, may the sun not shine upon him." Ahiqar 9:137

He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him;
Prov. 13:24

STOLEN from:
"With-hold not thy son from the rod, else thou wilt not be able to save him from wickedness." Ahiqar 6:81

Through patience a ruler can be persuaded, and a gentle tongue can break a bone.
Prov. 25:15

STOLEN from:
Soft is the utterance of a king; yet it is sharper and stronger than a two-edged knife." Ahiqar 7:105
The Teachings of Amen-em-opet
Amen-em-opet, son of Ka-nakht, taught in Egypt between 1200 - 1000 BCE. The text is found in British Museum Papyrus 10474 and a portion on a writing tablet in Turin, Italy. The papyrus is said to have come from Thebes and is speculated to be of the 10th and 6th centuries BCE.

Parallels:

Pay attention and listen to the sayings of the wise; apply your heart to what I teach, for it is pleasing when you keep them in your heart and have all of them ready on your lips.
Prov. 17-18

STOLEN from:
Give they ears, hear what is said,
Give they heart to understand them
Let them rest in the casket of thy belly
That they may be a key in they heart."
Amen-em-opet 3:10

Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court.
Prov. 22:22

STOLEN from:
"Guard thyself against robbing the oppressed
And against overbearing the disabled."
Amen-em-opet 2:1

If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty give him water to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head and the Lord will reward you.
Prov. 25:21-22

STOLEN from:
"Leave him in the arms of the god;
Fill his belly with bread of thine
So that he may be sated and may be ashamed."
Amen-em-opet 5:8

The above is just a tip of an iceberg. go to this link for details: www.exposingchristianity.com

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Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by knowyaself2(m): 3:47am On Sep 12, 2015
Heavenly102:
This is the same message Heinrich Himmler the leader of the infamous SS, and Adolf hitler's closest henchman used to preach
Adolf hitler and such were a few that saw through the Jewish conspiracy and fought to expose them for what they truly are, but sadly he was outnumbered and could only go so far. However with the availability of the internet much revealing info r becoming acessible to most people, and the lie is being uncovered with great intensity, that it's only a matter of time before most will wake up to the truth about the history of humanity and our relationship with the Gods, as well as those Gods that are truly evil and those those that have our interest at heart.
Deprogramming oneself from the influence of popular religions especially Christianity and keeping an open mind and then digging for the truth through documented history and personal spiritual experiences can one only get to know the truth, and not spend the rest of their lives beleiving a lie.

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Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Nobody: 6:43am On Sep 12, 2015
@knowyaself2, the Qur'an wasnt created by the jews as you false claim in one of your posts on this thread in other words could you simply prove it?
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by knowyaself2(m): 10:47am On Sep 12, 2015
lexiconkabir:
@knowyaself2, the Qur'an wasnt created by the jews as you false claim in one of your posts on this thread in other words could you simply prove it?
I don't intend to derail this thread, I have in mind to create another topic that will equally expose Islam and its root. However I have to post the following just to answer your question:

First off, just like Jesus Christ, Muhammad never existed.
There have been very few people in the past who have had the guts to challenge the authenticity of islam‘s ―Muhammad, and very little research has been done into the subject. However, when it is looked into, it becomes more and more apparent that just like the ―jesus of Christianity, Muhammad too is a false, fabricated character created for no other purpose than the destruction, desecration and removal of the true Ancient Knowledge given to humanity by the Gods and the consequent enslavement of the Gentile People.
Islam and its false prophet have heaped untold sorrow and suffering upon humanity from the moment of their creation. One only need look to the Middle East and other areas and countries dominated by islam to see that this is true. The poverty, war, destruction, anti-life practices, abuse of women and children, total lack of personal privacy and freedom, filth, ignorance and violence in these areas all have their roots in islam and its Muhammad. To rid the world and the Gentile people of this suffering, the world must be rid of the lie that is Muhammad.
There is a ton of evidence to prove this character never existed. That which stands out most clearly is the fact that the only so-called Ancient Sources of information concerning the life of Muhammad are extremely questionable and have never been able to be proven accurate and authentic.
As one example, the earliest biography of Muhammad has left no surviving copies and even so is dated to at least 100 years after his supposed death. Very suspicious, to say the least, and the question has to arise, if this was such an important character as islam states, why did people wait 100 years to document his life and achievements? Also, considering the fact Muhammad had already been dead 100 years at the time, the biography could not have been written by anyone who knew him personally, and therefore the accuracy would have been extremely questionable. This biography is known only because it is mentioned in much later texts, and no copies or anything of the sort have ever been found to prove its existence. Why? Because it never existed in the first place.
There are many more examples like this one. The same as with Christianities ―jesus, the only place in which the life and existence of Muhammad is documented is within islam‘squr‘an. Outside of this, there is nothing. One scholar wrote, ―It is a striking fact that such documentary evidence as survives from the Sufnayid period makes no mention of the messenger of god at all. The papyri do not refer to him. The Arabic inscriptions of the Arab- Sasanian coins only invoke Allah, not his rasul [messenger]; and the Arab-Byzantine bronze coins on which Muhammad appears as rasul Allah, previously dated to the Sufyanid period, have not been placed in that of the Marwanids. Even the two surviving pre-Marwanid tombstones fail to mention the rasul.
The qur‘an and pseudo-biographies of this supposed prophet claim that he was widely known, and that people, many of whom were powerful in the political world of the time, travelled from all over to witness his ―miracles and teachings. If this were so, there would be much surviving documentation for us to investigate, and it would be a known historical fact.
Again, we have hundreds of documentations of Alexander the Great, Christopher Columbus, all of the Egyptian Pharaohs and other powerful and influential people of history from those who saw and interacted with them, because they were real people who existed in a real time and were involved in events which really took place. It is human nature to document events and experiences in order to preserve them for future generations to learn from. However, as stated above, no documentation of this man Muhammad exists outside of the islamic texts, which themselves cannot be put forward as proof of his existence.
As for the inscriptions upon Arab Sasanian coins mentioning ―Allah‖, it has already been proven that the name ―Allah was STOLEN from the Ancient Pagan Title for the chief God or Goddess of an area, which was Al-Ilah. The Al-Ilah was the ―supreme God of a region. The Moon God Sin was given this title in much of Ancient Arabia, and many connections have been made between Sin and ―Allah, due only to the fact that islam STOLE this. This goes a lot deeper, however this will be addressed later.
On the other hand, the real historical documentation that we have is in contradiction with the islamic version of history, which again proves that islam and its Muhammad are false.
As a small example, according to the history put forth by the qur‘an and other islamic Texts, islam spread through much of Arabia peacefully and by willing conversions of hundreds of people. However, historical documentation tells us that this is not the case at all and that the time known as the islamic conquest was a time of brutal and savage war perpetrated by the bringers of islam against the Pagan people residing in the Arabian Peninsula and countries father East such as India at the time. Pagan Temples had to be destroyed, thousands and thousands of Ancient Sacred Texts full of the knowledge of the Gods were destroyed, Pagan Priesthood were brutally tortured and murdered, cities were besieged and raised to the ground and hundreds and thousands of people died as a result of the spread of islam.
Various other artifacts that have been found have blatantly contradicted what islam has put forth as history and reveal a different story altogether.
Aside from this, once again, we can expose the lies of islam through its connection to Christianity. Christianity has been proven to be false. Everything it has was blatantly STOLEN from Ancient Paganism with the purpose of the enslavement and eventual destruction of our Gentile people. There is literally more than a ton of proof for this. I highly recommend the book, ―The Christ Conspiracy, the Greatest Story Ever Sold‖ by Acharya S.
When the enemy formed their trinity of lies, they gave it one major flaw, and that is the fact that all three are undeniably and irrevocably connected. Thus, when one comes down, the others must come down with it. At least to a very large extent.
[/b]The character Muhammad is said to have been descended from the jewish (Note another connection to the jews, the root of the lies and the perpetrators of Gentile Enslavement. Muhammad was always described as a jew himself, and NOT an Arab/Gentile!!) Ishmael, son of Abraham. ―Abraham has been proven to be fictitious and was a corruption stolen from the Hindu God Brahma. As the stolen and corrupted jewish story goes, Abraham was most famous for his ―many Sons[b]. This is a blatant corruption of Brahma and his ―many more
Also, the connection can be made when you look at ―Abraham and his wife Sarai/Sarah‖. This was stolen from Brahma and his wife Saraswati, the Hindu Goddess of Knowledge. Once again, like all the fictitious characters invented by the enemy jews, there is absolutely no physical proof that Abraham ever existed, or that his so-called son Ishmael ever existed. It is safe to assume that anyone else said to be descended from them never existed either, and would therefore make them fictitious.
Connecting Muhammad with the jewish characters is yet another subliminal message of jewish supremacy over Gentile People. This is the entire purpose for islam‘s invention of Muhammad. To enslave the Gentile people who have been blinded by the lie of islam and put them under the power of the enemy jews and their masters. It is simple as that.
Many of the other supposed family member of Muhammad are also nothing more than stolen and corrupted versions of Ancient Pagan Gods. A prime example is ―Fatima, supposedly Muhammad‘s daughter, who was STOLEN from the Goddess Inanna/Isis/Al-Uzza. She was supposed to be portrayed as the fertile, ―divine mother, and divine Feminine. Although, considering how appallingly women are treated in islam, any reverence of ―divine feminine‖ is an outright contradiction. None the less, Fatima‘s character is stolen from the Goddess Al- Uzza, the Arabian Goddess of Fertility, motherhood and the Planet Venus, among other things. Al-Uzza was the original Arabian Feminine Divine and the sacred mother. Islam took this and horrendously corrupted it into ―Fatima‖, the so-called ideal islamic woman/mother and role model for women to live by. This is no different than in xianity where the virgin- kike Mary was also stolen from Inanna/Isis/Al-Uzza. Once again, it is a common theme throughout the enemy programs.
As well as this, Muhammad accompanied by his four family members Ali, Fatima, Hassan and Hussein can be seen as a corrupted (Stolen) Spiritual Allegory. The Five together are a representation and corruption of the Five Elements of the Soul. Muhammad, Ali, Fatima, Hassan and Hussein = Akasha, Fire, Water, Air and Earth, the Elements which make up all that exists, the central forces of the Universe. These five characters are the central characters of islam. In the same way that the Akasha was supposed to have ―given life to Fire and Water, which further joined and gave birth to Air and Earth, Muhammad (Akasha) gave life to Fatima who married/joined with Ali (Fire and Water) and they in turn gave birth to Hassan and Hussein (Air and Earth). The Spiritual/Alchemical corruption is blatant here, and it is also blatant that these were never real characters, but stolen allegories.
There are countless more examples like this one. Another is the ―12 Imams, who are a rip off of the 12 constellations of the Zodiac and the 12 Great Ages accompanying them.
The qur‘an makes many more connections between Muhammad and other characters who have been proven fictitious. An example is Moses/Musa who is stolen from a number of Ancient Pagan Gods, such as the Egyptian Gods Set and Horus. For more information regarding this, see exposingchristianity.com. Muhammad is also frequently compared to and given ties to Chrisianities ―jesus, who again has been 100% proven to be stolen and fictitious. Again, see exposing christianity. A character who is constantly compared with and so deeply connected to fictitious characters is fictitious themselves.

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Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Nobody: 5:01pm On Sep 12, 2015
knowyaself2, the question i asked you is to prove that the jews wrote the quran as you claimed and you dodged it and started questioning if muhammad existed, well they are numerous proofs, but i will give you the latest one, muhammad lived between 570AD to 632AD, a quranic manuscript in birmingham university believed to have been one of the earliest quranic manuscript was tested with carbon dating and the test gave the date to be between 568AD to 645AD with a 95.4% level of significance(i.e accuracy), and this falls between the time the prophet is believed to have lived.
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by knowyaself2(m): 9:07am On Sep 13, 2015
lexiconkabir:
knowyaself2, the question i asked you is to prove that the jews wrote the quran as you claimed and you dodged it and started questioning if muhammad existed, well they are numerous proofs, but i will give you the latest one, muhammad lived between 570AD to 632AD, a quranic manuscript in birmingham university believed to have been one of the earliest quranic manuscript was tested with carbon dating and the test gave the date to be between 568AD to 645AD with a 95.4% level of significance(i.e accuracy), and this falls between the time the prophet is believed to have lived.
Perhaps, u didn't read my last post properly. Give me any authentic secular history that substantiate the existence of Mohammed in real life, not some qu'aranic manuscript.
From my last post, u would also see that the Jews influenced the creation of the qu'aran.

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Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Nobody: 9:11am On Sep 13, 2015
knowyaself2:

Perhaps, u didn't read my last post properly. Give me any authentic secular history that substantiate the existence of Mohammed in real life, not some qu'aranic manuscript.
From my last post, u would also see that the Jews influenced the creation of the qu'aran.
the jews influenced the same quran that speaks ill of them?
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by knowyaself2(m): 9:53am On Sep 26, 2015
lexiconkabir:
the jews influenced the same quran that speaks ill of them?
That's the trick my dear, on the surface they appear to be at odds with it, but in reality it is their bulwark of power and control, just like Christianity. If your eyes are open and you dig a little, you'll find out that Gabriel is behind its creation.
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Nobody: 11:05am On Sep 26, 2015
knowyaself2:

That's the trick my dear, on the surface they appear to be at odds with it, but in reality it is their bulwark of power and control, just like Christianity. If your eyes are open and you dig a little, you'll find out that Gabriel is behind its creation.
ok
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Nobody: 11:08pm On Sep 27, 2015
knowyaself2:

That's the trick my dear, on the surface they appear to be at odds with it, but in reality it is their bulwark of power and control, just like Christianity. If your eyes are open and you dig a little, you'll find out that Gabriel is behind its creation.


who is Gabriel??
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Nobody: 11:09pm On Sep 27, 2015
Scholar8200:
Search the web on Baal/Molech worship and the involvement of debauchery. Another recent version of Sodom and Gomorrah is Pompeii. Let google take you by the hand down memory lane.


Pompeii was destroyed by volcanic eruption, How does that connect with Sodom n Gomorrah??
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Anas09: 11:52pm On Sep 27, 2015
Mr intelligent Ops. Am not as smart as u r but I ve few questions.
1. You say the Bible is ficticious right?
Fine. Is they a place in the world now called Ethiopia? Genesis mentioned it.
2) Are there rivers called the Tigress and the Euphrates, Red sea, Dead sea, Nile, Galilee? Genesis mentioned them.
3) Is there a place in the world today called Egypt? Genesis mentioned it.
4) Did pharoahs ever ruled as Kings at any time? Archeologists says they did.
5). Is there a place called Gaza, syria, Damascus, Babylon, Malta, cyprus, Corinth, troaz, Jerusalem, Bethlehem,? There are.
6) Historically speaking, was there a time that an empire was broken into two and two emperors ruled concurrently? Was a king Cyrus of persia that's now Iran, ever ruled? The Film 'the Rise of the three Hundred tells a story of him.
7) Was there a time that the world was ruled from Rome? Where there Ceasers?
Is there Jerusalem existing today? Are they Jews?
When was this Bible even written? Who wrote it? If u say the jews of the Time of Christ, I'll laf at u because they couldn't fabricate accurately what happened in Babylon, in egypt and the rest.
You see? Wen intelligent people such as you come up with things loke this, trying to get us out of our faith, I ask myself, don't they think?
I think. And what kept me as a Christian is asking this questions.

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Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Validated: 4:37am On Sep 28, 2015
You expect me to spend my time reading this IDIOCY Go and repent so that your life would become a light to others in darkness.
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Freegift75: 8:12am On Sep 28, 2015
knowyaself2:

I normaly don't respond to such posts as this because they don't make sense. A word of advice: learn to make ur point by facts, not religious sentiments. Have u been able to prove that the bible, both old and new testaments are not ficticious? Anyone that's inclined to think outside that so called holy bible to u is possessed by an evil spirit.
Africans may forever be backwards in spiritual and economic development because by default we are just a bunch of gullible people, most with double digit IQ. Most don't question the dominant believe systems simply because there are born into Christian homes and have been thoroughly indoctrinated and their minds programmed and closed. Trying to reason with such is a complete waste of time.

Mr Man, you indeed made my day. I sincerely read all the articles posted from beginning to the end. This is coming to buttress the notion I have for religion. I've read quite number of historical sacred-texts by almost 20 different world religions. So, I would be the last person to be deceived by Christianity as a religion.

But it is unfortunate that those so-claimed obsessed Christians will never allow themselves to be unlosed from the captivity of christianity theology.

Thanks for making me to realise the teachings of the
Essenes. I will begin to search for it for study as well.

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Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Freegift75: 8:23am On Sep 28, 2015
Anas09:
Mr intelligent Ops. Am not as smart as u r but I ve few questions.
1. You say the Bible is ficticious right?
Fine. Is they a place in the world now called Ethiopia? Genesis mentioned it.
2) Are there rivers called the Tigress and the Euphrates, Red sea, Dead sea, Nile, Galilee? Genesis mentioned them.
3) Is there a place in the world today called Egypt? Genesis mentioned it.
4) Did pharoahs ever ruled as Kings at any time? Archeologists says they did.
5). Is there a place called Gaza, syria, Damascus, Babylon, Malta, cyprus, Corinth, troaz, Jerusalem, Bethlehem,? There are.
6) Historically speaking, was there a time that an empire was broken into two and two emperors ruled concurrently? Was a king Cyrus of persia that's now Iran, ever ruled? The Film 'the Rise of the three Hundred tells a story of him.
7) Was there a time that the world was ruled from Rome? Where there Ceasers?
Is there Jerusalem existing today? Are they Jews?
When was this Bible even written? Who wrote it? If u say the jews of the Time of Christ, I'll laf at u because they couldn't fabricate accurately what happened in Babylon, in egypt and the rest.
You see? Wen intelligent people such as you come up with things loke this, trying to get us out of our faith, I ask myself, don't they think?
I think. And what kept me as a Christian is asking this questions.

These your questions reveal your level of reasoning. The fact that names of places mentioned in the bible are real doesn't mean the stories are not fictitious! For instance, Moses was claimed to have narrated the story of creation. But the fact to note is, Moses himself was born after 2,500 years that people have being in existences.

So, nobody could have done same until Moses was born?

Mr Man, go for history. Nobody is trying to divert your mind from your faith.
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Freegift75: 8:32am On Sep 28, 2015
lexiconkabir:
knowyaself2, the question i asked you is to prove that the jews wrote the quran as you claimed and you dodged it and started questioning if muhammad existed, well they are numerous proofs, but i will give you the latest one, muhammad lived between 570AD to 632AD, a quranic manuscript in birmingham university believed to have been one of the earliest quranic manuscript was tested with carbon dating and the test gave the date to be between 568AD to 645AD with a 95.4% level of significance(i.e accuracy), and this falls between the time the prophet is believed to have lived.

Try to get the point right. Mohammad himself was born 570 years after Jesus had died. If you read quran very well, you will realise that all the stories theirin are same in the bible, only the characters surface with different identity. Abraham and Isaac story turns to Ibrahim and Ismaeel in quran. This ought to mean to you that someone coined story of the Jews and modified it. And such person could be Jew as well
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by Anas09: 10:39pm On Sep 28, 2015
@freegift
I don't know what to say to U. I asked questions. Whwn was the Bible wrtten. If it was wrtten by one man, then there would ve been a possibility of fabrication
I don't know, u sound like a child to me. Is ur brian dead? Or is it because u come to NL and u find people who spite God and u feel u shd join. From the Bible that the likes of U scorn, we were told, that on two occasions Moses spend 40days and 40nights up in the mountain with God. What do u think Moses was doing? He was fetching water for God to bath? He was taking down events that has happened before him. You never knew that?
40 different characters wrote the Bible, at diff. Generations, but they all arrived at on a central message, Jesus Christ. But No that's not ur interest, ur interest is thinking through your Anus and bringing curses upon urself.
The names of the characters (besides places) I mentioned are historical characters, AND I ask you again FREEGIFT. Did those men lived? If they r not Historical characters, then the Bible is fabricated, but if they lived and ruled their kingdoms, then fight and free urself from the grip of satan.
You ve been served.
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by knowyaself2(m): 9:22pm On Sep 29, 2015
Anas09:
Mr intelligent Ops. Am not as smart as u r but I ve few questions.
1. You say the Bible is ficticious right?
Fine. Is they a place in the world now called Ethiopia? Genesis mentioned it.
2) Are there rivers called the Tigress and the Euphrates, Red sea, Dead sea, Nile, Galilee? Genesis mentioned them.
3) Is there a place in the world today called Egypt? Genesis mentioned it.
4) Did pharoahs ever ruled as Kings at any time? Archeologists says they did.
5). Is there a place called Gaza, syria, Damascus, Babylon, Malta, cyprus, Corinth, troaz, Jerusalem, Bethlehem,? There are.
6) Historically speaking, was there a time that an empire was broken into two and two emperors ruled concurrently? Was a king Cyrus of persia that's now Iran, ever ruled? The Film 'the Rise of the three Hundred tells a story of him.
7) Was there a time that the world was ruled from Rome? Where there Ceasers?
Is there Jerusalem existing today? Are they Jews?
When was this Bible even written? Who wrote it? If u say the jews of the Time of Christ, I'll laf at u because they couldn't fabricate accurately what happened in Babylon, in egypt and the rest.
You see? Wen intelligent people such as you come up with things loke this, trying to get us out of our faith, I ask myself, don't they think?
I think. And what kept me as a Christian is asking this questions.
If you studied a bit of logic , you wouldn't state all you have stated because it's ridiculous. If I told you that in lagos state horses and donkeys were used as taxis during the tenure of gov fashola, would that make it a fact simply because lagos state exists and fashola was a one time governor of the state?
The bible is very subliminal and believable. those who wrote it are no fools. This is their simple strategy: state a bit of the truth, mix it with lies, and you will have them believing the lies as well. And then they employed the concept of fear to enslave those who might be inclined to rebel due to all the multitude of unanswered questions and contradictions.

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Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by knowyaself2(m): 10:14pm On Sep 29, 2015
Anas09:
@freegift
I don't know what to say to U. I asked questions. Whwn was the Bible wrtten. If it was wrtten by one man, then there would ve been a possibility of fabrication
I don't know, u sound like a child to me. Is ur brian dead? Or is it because u come to NL and u find people who spite God and u feel u shd join. From the Bible that the likes of U scorn, we were told, that on two occasions Moses spend 40days and 40nights up in the mountain with God. What do u think Moses was doing? He was fetching water for God to bath? He was taking down events that has happened before him. You never knew that?
40 different characters wrote the Bible, at diff. Generations, but they all arrived at on a central message, Jesus Christ. But No that's not ur interest, ur interest is thinking through your Anus and bringing curses upon urself.
The names of the characters (besides places) I mentioned are historical characters, AND I ask you again FREEGIFT. Did those men lived? If they r not Historical characters, then the Bible is fabricated, but if they lived and ruled their kingdoms, then fight and free urself from the grip of satan.
You ve been served.
Mr. those Jewish characters are all fiticious. They never existed. They r allegories and a corruption of occult facts.
Solomon for example, the temple of Solomon is THE TEMPLE OF THE SUN. 'SOL' 'OM' and 'ON' are all words for the sun. 'Sol' is the Latin word for the sun and is closed to the English word 'soul'. 'OM' is the name given by the Hindus to the spiritual sun and 'ON' is an Egyptian word for the Sun. The symbolism of the temple of Solomon was stolen by the Jews and made into a fiticious character, as with the fiticious Nazarene and almost everything in the bible. The temple of the sun is spiritual and it symbolizes the perfect soul.

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Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by knowyaself2(m): 10:42pm On Sep 29, 2015
Freegift75:


Mr Man, you indeed made my day. I sincerely read all the articles posted from beginning to the end. This is coming to buttress the notion I have for religion. I've read quite number of historical sacred-texts by almost 20 different world religions. So, I would be the last person to be deceived by Christianity as a religion.

But it is unfortunate that those so-claimed obsessed Christians will never allow themselves to be unlosed from the captivity of christianity theology.

Thanks for making me to realise the teachings of the
Essenes. I will begin to search for it for study as well.

You are much welcome dear. You are not far from waking up to the truth. keep on digging and in time u will be led to it. It will come naturally to you, just like a duck going to the water.
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by darcsherry(m): 7:47pm On Oct 09, 2015
Wow! This is great history...

I really do appreciate this excerpt and mind you I have been working on the mystery behind the myth of the Nazarene but when I think I have gotten to a point where I have decided that he is nothing but a thought form designed by the Jews to enslave man kind, I get another story justifying his existence. Wew!

I will also like to refer you to http://www.josephus.org/testimonium.htm and tell me what your take is on this guy and his works.

Also, how do one nullify the evidence dug out by several archeologist to prove he once existed. Is it a sponsored scam/propaganda too? How about the pilgrimage too where thousands of xtian visit the so called holy city to see his tomb?

Still ruminating though but I will appreciate your sincere point of view as usual.
Re: Christ's Existence Not Substantiated By Historical Evidence by knowyaself2(m): 12:30pm On Oct 17, 2015
darcsherry:
Wow! This is great history...

I really do appreciate this excerpt and mind you I have been working on the mystery behind the myth of the Nazarene but when I think I have gotten to a point where I have decided that he is nothing but a thought form designed by the Jews to enslave man kind, I get another story justifying his existence. Wew!

I will also like to refer you to http://www.josephus.org/testimonium.htm and tell me what your take is on this guy and his works.

Also, how do one nullify the evidence dug out by several archeologist to prove he once existed. Is it a sponsored scam/propaganda too? How about the pilgrimage too where thousands of xtian visit the so called holy city to see his tomb?

Still ruminating though but I will appreciate your sincere point of view as usual.

I strongly believe that josephus account of Jesus was inserted by someone sympathetic to the xtian belief system, as was being speculated. From this excerpt, [/b]''He appeared to them spending a third day restored to life, for the prophets of God had foretold these things and a thousand other marvels about him''[b], you and I know this could not have been authoritatively written by a secular historian who largely tailor their stories to facts witnessed by themselves or to sources that couldn't be questioned. Even from bible accounts, we know that only jesus' disciples and a few other believers saw him after he resurrected, and they were the ones that affirmed and promoted this idea. So, a secular historian, Josephus, could not have personally witnessed or experienced this. And if this was by any chance written by josephus himself, then the idea must have been promoted by the Jews and accepted by many, including himself, as at the time he wrote it.
What evidence by archeologists? Please be specific. Tombs can be created by anyone determined to promote an hoax in other to lend credence to it.

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