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'90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by winner01(m): 10:40pm On Sep 15, 2015
[b]Known worldwide as "The Minister of Hope," renowned book author Don Piper said he got to experience the joys of heaven for about 90 minutes after he suffered from a terrible car crash back on Jan.18, 1989.

Don Piper actually looks amazingly well for a man who died over 25 years ago. After 34 surgeries, his legs give him trouble on occasion, and his left arm is frozen in a permanent handshake.

But things could be worse. In January 1989 Piper died when an 18-wheeler plowed over his Ford Escort on a Texas bridge. Considering his extensive injuries, death was a blessing. But it lasted only 90 minutes—long enough for this Baptist minister to visit the splendors of heaven and reconnect with departed family and friends. Everything was bliss until another minister came upon the accident and felt impressed to pray for the dead man. His prayers worked. Piper came back to life. Anyone who's heard Piper speak or has read 90 Minutes in Heaven knows this story well. After its publication in 2004, the book spent four years on the New York Times Best- Sellers list and has sold 7 million copies to date. Hard to believe that the publisher didn't think it would do well—or ever be made into a movie. But now his recollection of that experience has been captured in the film "90 Minutes in Heaven," which premiered on Friday, Sept. 11, in 800 theatres in the US based on Piper's book of the same name.

It stars Hayden Christensen (the "Star Wars" prequels) as Don Piper and Kate Bosworth ("Superman Returns"wink as Eva Piper. Michael Polish ("The Astronaut Farmer"wink directs the Giving Films production. Veteran actor Fred Dalton Thompson (Die Hard 2 ) appears as Piper's minister friend, Jay B. Perkins, and singer-songwriter Michael W. Smith is in a leading role. Smith's son is writing the soundtrack for the movie.

The Baptist minister was on his way home from a conference in Texas when a semi-trailer truck slammed into his car. Piper said the roof of his car slammed into his head, the steering wheel struck his chest, and the dashboard fell on both of his legs.
When paramedics arrived, they found him without heartbeat and pulse.

According to Piper, at that moment he went to Heaven and experienced "surreal" things like meeting family members long dead such as his great-grandmother and joining a Heavenly Choir at the Gates of Heaven.
Piper, an ordained minister since 1985, has appeared on numerous television and radio programs to recall his "resurrection" story. He said God had bigger plans for him in this world, that's why he said he miraculously "came back to life." Piper said sharing his personal story through the film "90 Minutes in Heaven" was both gratifying and difficult for him and his wife Eva, who had to recall all of their personal struggles during that time to be able to deliver an honest rendition of the film.

"I was on the set about 80 percent of the time, and Eva and our kids were all invited to the set, so we were there and saw them making the movie in an accurate and forth right kind of way, "Piper told Breaking Christian News. "It was very surreal—to relive those experiences after all these years through the acting; it was not an easy thing to do."

Another difficulty they faced was in depicting heaven in the film. Piper said after he came back from the dead, he was unable to talk about heaven for over a year simply because there were no earthly words to describe it.
"If that's the case on a personal level, just try to make a film about it! "he said.
"The parts of heaven that they chose to portray are mostly accurate.
But they can't do the colours that I saw there; that I can't see here. They can't do the aromas that I smelled there; that I can't smell here, "he said. "So, it was accurate in depicting the things they could display, but there's so much more—to say the least—to heaven than you could make in a movie."

Nonetheless, Piper praised the producers, saying they did a pretty good job showing heaven in the movie. But whatever visual paradise any special effects team could muster up would simply pale in comparison to the real heaven, he said.

The pastor said he understands that there are sceptics who would disagree with him regarding the reality of heaven, adding that everybody is entitled to his or her own opinion.

"I respect those who disagree with me about heaven. They probably use the brakes on their car, and yet don't understand anything about them either—they use them by faith,the car stops.We exercise faith all the time regarding things we can't see or don't understand, so it shouldn't be any less with a story like this.But it's their call.I just ask people to see the movie, and make their own judgment call,"he said.

Sources: www.christiantoday.com, www.charismanews.com/culture/49915-despite-false-heaven-stories-90-minutes-in-heaven-puts-don-piper-s-story-on-big-screen,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcJNXbKDZjA&gl=NG&hl=en-GB

Bless you[/b]

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Re: '90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by winner01(m): 10:40pm On Sep 15, 2015
Don Piper wreck.

Re: '90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by winner01(m): 1:40am On Oct 11, 2015
Psalms 46:10 - Be still, and know that I [am] God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
Re: '90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by MightySparrow: 4:13am On Oct 11, 2015
Oyinbo heaven must be different I knew it. This man saw beautiful colours Naija would see a demon with bilala at the gate beating non - members of their church and those who do not believe in their doctrines.

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Re: '90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by kevoh(m): 7:25am On Oct 11, 2015

"I respect those who disagree with me about heaven.They probably use the brakes on their car, and yet don't understand anything about them either—they use them by faith,the car stops.We exercise faith all the time regarding things we can't see or don't understand, so it shouldn't be any less with a story like this.

This is worrisome. Faith to use brakes again? All in the name of validating a non-existent heaven experience! Come on! These christians sef!

How do we know brakes exist? It's there PHYSICALLY in the vehicle and we have seen it work on automobiles whenever we press gently on the BRAKE PAD with our foot, we buy BRAKE FLUID for our car's braking system, the mechanic warns you that your brake pad is worn off and needs replacement e.t.c All these are empirical proofs and are there for anyone who does not believe a brake system exist to have a taste. You don't need any FAITH.

How do we know heaven exists with empirical proof?... undecided

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Re: '90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by Nobody: 7:45am On Oct 11, 2015
This fifle ayaf come again
Re: '90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by winner01(m): 9:15am On Oct 11, 2015
kevoh:


This is worrisome. Faith to use brakes again? All in the name of validating a non-existent heaven experience! Come on! These christians sef!

How do we know brakes exist? It's there PHYSICALLY in the vehicle and we have seen it work on automobiles whenever we press gently on the BRAKE PAD with our foot, we buy BRAKE FLUID for our car's braking system, the mechanic warns you that your brake pad is worn off and needs replacement e.t.c All these are empirical proofs and are there for anyone who does not believe a brake system exist to have a taste. You don't need any FAITH.

How do we know heaven exists with empirical proof?... undecided
Its quite simple what the man said, you only dont understand. Ok. Lets quickly do this. Explain how the brakes of a car works without using google. I guess this what this man meant
Re: '90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by kevoh(m): 9:48am On Oct 11, 2015
winner01:
Its quite simple what the man said, you only dont understand. Ok. Lets quickly do this. Explain how the brakes of a car works without using google. I guess this what this man meant
I don't need google to realise that my car stops or slows down when I press on the brake pedal. These are things OBSERVED and EXPERIENCED by sane humans. Physical proof for the non engineer/mechanic: Brake pedal,Brake Fluid e.t.c Physical Measurement : Car stops,Slows down or No response due to malfunction leading to accident. It's physically glaring! It doesn't need faith! Everyone knows what a brake system does to cars,bikes, airplanes e.t.c Everyone knows and has proof that engineers are humans that exist and keep designing and redesigning to get better brake system for all automobiles even you. Denying this fact amounts to 100% dishonesty! You don't need google for any of this.

Now what is faith? Faith may be confidence or trust in a person or thing or a belief not based on proof. Do any of the aforementioned physical elements and measurments sound like zero proofs to you.

Now give me empirical proof that heaven that you and your man is trying to compare to a brake system exists? ...We are waiting!

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Re: '90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by winner01(m): 11:10am On Oct 11, 2015
kevoh:

Everyone knows what a brake system does to cars,bikes, airplanes e.t.c
Yeah everyone know brakes slows down motion, even those who dont use cars know about break parts such as the pedal, pads and related. However i still believe the question is quite simple and glaring. How does the brake system of a car works, explain it. angry
Re: '90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by kevoh(m): 11:43am On Oct 11, 2015
winner01:
Yeah everyone know brakes slows down motion, even those who dont use cars know about break parts such as the pedal, pads and related. However i still believe the question is quite simple and glaring. How does the brake system of a car works, explain it. angry
This just amounts to beating round the bush. If you want to be schooled on the mechanics of a brake system, OBSERVE and EXPERIENCE its mechanism you know what to do. I have personally taken a course on industrial automation, where I observed first hand a simple brake design process that could be used during Industrial process, run simulations and also experienced it at the plant. Engineers and local roadside mechanics, can easily explain brake system to you using faulty cars. All these are physical proofs of which faith contradicts. CHECK THE DEFINITION OF FAITH AGAIN.

My second reply to your post has already done justice to the matter for a layman with zero idea of the mechanics of a brake system which is what this all about:

kevoh:

I don't need google to realise that my car stops or slows down when I press on the brake pedal. These are things OBSERVED and EXPERIENCED by sane humans. Physical proof for the non engineer/mechanic: Brake pedal,Brake Fluid e.t.c Physical Measurement : Car stops,Slows down or No response due to malfunction leading to accident. It's physically glaring! It doesn't need faith! Now what is faith? Faith may be confidence or trust in a person or thing or a belief not based on proof. Do any of the aforementioned physical elements and measurments sound like zero proofs to you.

Now give me empirical proof that heaven that you and your man is trying to compare to a brake system exists? ... This is the third time I am asking you this and you are busy dodging it.
Re: '90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by winner01(m): 12:25pm On Oct 11, 2015
Lets quickly analyze who is actually beating around the bush and avoiding questions mr kevoh

This great man stated clearly:

winner01:


[b]"I respect those who disagree with me about heaven. They probably use the brakes on their car, and yet don't understand anything about them either—

The man used the term "Understand", For clarity i've brought to you the oxford definition of that word as used in this context


Understand; To Perceive the intended meaning of (words, a language, or a speaker):
To Perceive the significance, explanation, or cause of:
To be sympathetically or knowledgeably aware of the character or nature of:
To be thoroughly familiar with; apprehend clearly the character, nature, or subtleties of:


Im sure you can see the words: Explanation, knowledgeable, thoroughly familiar, etc.
Good.

You have dodged the "explanation" of how a brake system works, instead you went further to say

kevoh:

I have personally taken a course on industrial automation, where I observed first hand a simple brake design process that could be used during Industrial process, run simulations and also experienced it at the plant. Engineers and local roadside mechanics, can easily explain brake system
[/b]If this is the case then give an explanation, let people learn. And even at that, you speak for yourself. How many people take courses on industrial automation


And you speak of a layman[/b]
kevoh:

My second reply to your post has already done justice to the matter for a layman with zero idea of the mechanics of a brake system which is what this all about:
Do you even know what layman means

lay·man/ˈlāmən/ - a person without professional or specialized knowledge in a particular subject.

Take note of the word "specialized knowledge".
Ive been driving for the past 14 years, i know what brakes do to motion, ive bought brake fluids and brake pads a couple times.
But i have no "specialized knowledge" of how a brake system works, and so do many other people who didnt take courses on industrial automation.

Im not here to debate on any issue on the existence of Heaven (as it is not an issue for me), im not even here to respond to critics, as a matter of fact i posted the story of this great man to uplift people spiritually. However I understand the plight of critics just like he said. People have done more terrible things in their irritation of the christian belief. Some found grace, some didnt. I hope you do find grace.
Re: '90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by kevoh(m): 1:22pm On Oct 11, 2015
winner01:
Lets quickly analyze who is actually beating around the bush and avoiding questions mr kevoh

This great man stated clearly:


The man used the term "Understand", For clarity i've brought to you the oxford definition of that word as used in this context


Understand; To Perceive the intended meaning of (words, a language, or a speaker):
To Perceive the significance, explanation, or cause of:
To be sympathetically or knowledgeably aware of the character or nature of:
To be thoroughly familiar with; apprehend clearly the character, nature, or subtleties of:


Im sure you can see the words: Explanation, knowledgeable, thoroughly familiar, etc.
Good.

You have dodged the "explanation" of how a brake system works, instead you went further to say


There is no dodging here. If I needed to know how a brake system works as a non-mechanical engineer and a layman I simply consult a mechanical engineer, a roadside mechanic, youtube e.t.c And they will give me plenty EMPIRICAL PROOF pointing to all the physical elements that I can OBSERVE and EXPERIMENT . If you want an explanation on brake system, nothing stops me from posting links to show you one or copying and pasting one here. It doesn't change the argument.
winner01:

And you speak of a layman

Do you even know what layman means
lay·man/ˈlāmən/ - a person without professional or specialized knowledge in a particular subject.
Take note of the word "specialized knowledge".
Ive been driving for the past 14 years, i know what brakes do to motion, ive bought brake fluids and brake pads a couple times.
But i have no "specialized knowledge" of how a brake system works, and so do many other people who didnt take courses on industrial automation.

Thank you for this definition of layman. NO SPECIALISED KNOWLEDGE. How does this contradict with what my explanation of when I stated that a layman with zero idea of the brake system needs to do? While you were lifting definitions, you stylishly forgot to lift and add the definition of FAITH abi?

Let me jog your memory a bit again, FAITH : Faith may be confidence or trust in a person or thing or a belief not based on proof.

Your Piper guy is trying to stylishly force the reality of heaven by comparing it to having FAITH on the brakes of a car to make it stop which totally contradicts what faith means. Brakes we know BASED ON PROOF,we can observe and we can experiment! Heaven mba!

A soldier shoots a gun at an enemy, he doesn't know how the gun mechanism comes about but he pulls the trigger anyway(PHYSICAL ACTION), the bullet comes out(PHYSICAL OBJECT) and the enemy is struck down (OBSERVATION).

For the fourth time and last time,give us physical proofs that this reality of heaven that Piper is refering to and comparing to a brake system exists?
Re: '90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by winner01(m): 2:46pm On Oct 11, 2015
Here we go again. I remember asking you earlier kevoh to;
winner01:
Explain how the brakes of a car works without using google.
Your best defence is;
kevoh:

I simply consult a mechanical engineer, a roadside mechanic, youtube e.t.c And they will give me plenty EMPIRICAL PROOF
kevoh:

If you want an explanation on brake system, nothing stops me from posting links to show you one or copying and pasting one here.
Coming from someone who has taken courses on industrial automation, not even an understadable explanation in general terms.
Well there's no need to copy links, the man has made his point. Majority of people who use brakes dont know how it works and even after reading this, they still wont bother to know.

I dont understand your desperate criticism, Let me put the man's analogy in simple terms for you.
The man died and went to Heaven; Some people dont have a specialized knowledge of how such could work out but could try to investigate it.

Many people apply brakes and their car stops; Even though they dont have a specialized knowledge of how it works but could still try to investigate it

Its this simple.

I still understand your desperation though and like i said earlier Im not here to respond to your criticisms of the supernatural, when i'm less busy and feel like going back and forth with your type, ill do it.
Re: '90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by kevoh(m): 3:17pm On Oct 11, 2015
winner01:
Here we go again. I remember asking you earlier kevoh to;

Your best defence is;


Coming from someone who has taken courses on industrial automation, not even an understadable explanation in general terms.
There's nothing to explain there. The bone of contention is not me explaining to you how a brake system works, If I wanted to,a simple modified definition from google or one of these car books lying in my small shelf would do the trick. My sound knowledge or otherwise of a Car brake system has zero importance to the claim that you and Piper are making.

winner01:
Majority of people who use brakes dont know how it works and even after reading this, they still wont bother to know.
Very good! My points exactly. They don't need to because they have OBSERVABLE PROOFS, press on the pedal and the car stops. Simple as ABC! It's called common sense and not faith.

winner01:

I dont understand your desperate criticism, Let me put the man's analogy in simple terms for you.
The man died and went to Heaven; Some people dont have a specialized knowledge of how such could work out but could try to investigate it.
Many people apply brakes and their car stops; Even though they dont have a specialized knowledge of how it works but could still try to investigate it
Its this simple.
Meaning if I want to investigate it due to my zero knowledge I can consult my car mechanic who can explain to me with physical proofs of the components of a brake system using a faulty car abi? Or consult the genius Mechanical Engineer at MIT abi?
So how do we investigate Heaven with OBSERVABLE and EXPERIMENTED proof, if I may ask you and Piper ?
winner01:
when i'm less busy and feel like going back and forth with your type, ill do it.
Your choice! Adios Amigo!
Re: '90 Minutes In Heaven': How Don Piper 'came back tolife' And What He Saw 'there' by winner01(m): 8:27pm On Oct 11, 2015
kevoh:

If I wanted to,a simple modified definition from google or one of these car books lying in my small shelf would do the trick. My sound knowledge or otherwise of a Car brake system has zero importance to the claim that you and Piper are making.
Just the exact point the man made. Even you who claim to have had automobile related lessons cant explain how a brake system works {at least in simple terms} without reference to google or car books.
Your knowledge and that of the common man about car brakes has all to do with this issue. Infact, its the reason for this discussion. Your tqisting and turning is unnecessary.


kevoh:

Meaning if I want to investigate it due to my zero knowledge I can consult my car mechanic who can explain to me with physical proofs of the components of a brake system using a faulty car abi? Or consult the genius Mechanical Engineer at MIT abi?
So how do we investigate Heaven with OBSERVABLE and EXPERIMENTED proof, if I may ask you and Piper ?

Maybe Ill should paste this for you once more;
winner01:

The man died and went to Heaven; Some people dont have a specialized knowledge of how such could work out but could try to investigate it.

Many people apply brakes and their car stops; Even though they dont have a specialized knowledge of how it works but could still try to investigate it
With sincerity, you'll find what you seek {WITH SINCERITY}.

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