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Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by LastSurvivor: 10:28am On Oct 09, 2015
Sorry Nigerians..
Let's live with our mistakes..
Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by sammyj: 10:32am On Oct 09, 2015
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nigerrichwicked:
now I can see d sign of malaria.
Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by sammyj: 10:33am On Oct 09, 2015
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Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by sammyj: 10:34am On Oct 09, 2015
Fine oo. Thanks Bro !!!
alexlee50:
How my guy?
Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by alexlee50: 10:42am On Oct 09, 2015
mbhs139:


see all these arm chair economist...

Well, I heard the Vice President, Yemi Osinbajo, in an interview, saying the country can not change its policy simply because of an index. That's not going to be possible, and I agree with him on that. If you guys know the conditions these modern slave trade people are giving the country, you will ask them to go to hell.

By the way, bond this, bond that, they are not the real investors in an economy! They are what they are truly called- Port Folio Investors, Port Folio.

Do you know what a portfolio is...? That is, you bring your investment in a portfolio and you also leave with your profit in your port folio at the slightest provocation. Though, you may argue that they provide the finance for the real investors, fine, but then, they are what they are- Port folio, just like port folio contractors.

In any case, I still think the country should not be hounded into taking hasty economic decision simply because we are being shoved off some lousy index- No!
see the smart one.............Anyway u did not address the issue.these guys are saying they are suspending trade in nigerian bonds because of lack of economic policy.the question is this, is it proper to run a country without an economic policy? Why dont we address the issue which is making these fund managers leave? Why did it take the president 4months to name his ministers? Do u know the irony of it, its still the same people we know already? What is the goverrments policy on education, health, transportation, environment, foreign policy? This is the problem, not Jonathan, these financial institutions are there to raise money for the government to finance projects it has earmarked.they cannot do so in an uncertain environment. Beg them to come up with an economic policy, nigerians are suffering

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Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by ZUBY77(m): 10:46am On Oct 09, 2015
The average animal from the zoo would see this news with political eye glasses..

No, not really.
In as much as I am not partisan, I didn't expect Buhari to continue where GEJ stopped. That would continue to encourage corruption.

GEJ, despite being a good family man, was not hard on corruption. If it will take us another 50 years to get it right, I won't mind.

I have every believe that Buhari will do a better Job as President if he can assemble a good team.

But so far, he is still Compensating those who brought Jonathan down.

That's not the way to go.
Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by Codedb2: 10:49am On Oct 09, 2015
QuotaSystem:
[b]What sort of ignorance is this?

We were listed in the first place because of our economic performance ROOTED IN THE HIGH OIL PRICES THAT PREVAILED... was it GEJ that boosted the prices or Buhari that shot them down?

To keep us on that list, GEJ should have exploited the booming prices and surpluses to diversify our economy away from oil and strengthen our foreign reserves to protect the Naira, INSTEAD OF LOOTING and bleeding the excess crude account, foreign reserves and WASTING THE OIL PRICE BOOM (over $100 per barrel).

Countries face economic challenges all over the world all the time (e.g. the recent global recession) but the key is PLANNING and SAVING FOR THE RAINY DAY. Iweala predicted these problems under GEJ while we were still earning surpluses from high oil prices yet nothing was done to prepare.

UAE like Iweala, discovered that it's oil would not sustain it in the estimated future, and they used their excess Petro-dollars to DIVERSIFY into tourism and today they are smiling despite sinking oil prices because tourism was developed, and their leader did not loot with impunity like Jonathan, Diezani and the crew.

GEJ is the real reason we are being delisted. [/b]

As ur wife no wan conceive, blame it on Jonathan. Nkita
Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by MallamYahaya(m): 11:23am On Oct 09, 2015
ShowYourCertificate:
This is what you get by voting in a Dullard as president. Someone who didn't even write and pass Economics in his WASC. God please save this country from doom.

So Buhari is responsible for the fall in oil prices because he didn't study economics at school cert level? I wonder what you studied.
Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by Fundango: 11:47am On Oct 09, 2015
QuotaSystem:
[b]What sort of ignorance is this?

We were listed in the first place because of our economic performance ROOTED IN THE HIGH OIL PRICES THAT PREVAILED... was it GEJ that boosted the prices or Buhari that shot them down?

To keep us on that list, GEJ should have exploited the booming prices and surpluses to diversify our economy away from oil and strengthen our foreign reserves to protect the Naira, INSTEAD OF LOOTING and bleeding the excess crude account, foreign reserves and WASTING THE OIL PRICE BOOM (over $100 per barrel).

Countries face economic challenges all over the world all the time (e.g. the recent global recession) but the key is PLANNING and SAVING FOR THE RAINY DAY. Iweala predicted these problems under GEJ while we were still earning surpluses from high oil prices yet nothing was done to prepare.

UAE like Iweala, discovered that it's oil would not sustain it in the estimated future, and they used their excess Petro-dollars to DIVERSIFY into tourism and today they are smiling despite sinking oil prices because tourism was developed, and their leader did not loot with impunity like Jonathan, Diezani and the crew.

GEJ's cluelessness is the real reason we are being delisted. [/b]
on behalf of all Nairalandersgrin
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Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by anonimi: 11:51am On Oct 09, 2015
Activa:
Don't defend rubbish.

Jonathan's government failed woefully by not saving when prices were high. This is not arguable!

Buhari's government is too slow to roll out its economic roadmap. This is not arguable!

Be objective and just love your country.


Finally got a news story showing Jonathan's efforts at saving was rejected vehemently by our 36 kleptomaniac state governors in UNISON.


FG, States, LGs Share N568.4 Billion for Oct

Also, $1billion was proposed for distribution to complement shortfall in expected revenue." The $1billion is a compromise by the FG over its words in September not to augment shortfalls anymore.

Responding to the presentation, the chairman of the States Commissioners of Finance and Ebonyi State Commissioner of Finance, Mr Timothy Odaah, lamented that the statutory allocation was getting smaller and smaller. "It appears this is the worst in terms of returns. This is the least in allocations as far as this year is concerned. We are mourning the dearth of funds and this is a wakeup call for states and local governments to buoy up their internally generated revenue."

While appreciating the "magnanimity" of President Goodluck Jonathan to approve the $1billion from the excess crude account and to be shared among the federal, state and local governments, Odaah expressed disappointment with the returns made by the NNPC.

He said that [size=14pt]the states had requested for $2bn[/size] to complement for the shortfall in revenue but got only $1billion. In September, Odaah and fellow commissioners had walked out of the Accountant General of the Federation (AGF) when the federal government said that the framework of the 2013 budget was no longer realistic and it won't augment shortfall in revenue. Odaah raised issues with the statutory allocations of previous months.

More from: http://allafrica.com/stories/201311150323.html
Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by Nobody: 11:54am On Oct 09, 2015
anonimi:



Finally got a news story showing Jonathan's efforts at saving was rejected vehemently by our 36 kleptomaniac state governors in UNISON.



The same way the governors took on Obasanjo on the same issue and he was still able to save? The FG (under Obasanjo) was also taken to court. Governors have always wanted to share the money.

What did Obasanjo do that Jonathan couldn't?

Talk about weak leadership...right?

Pls stop defending weak leadership. Everything depends on leadership.
Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by anonimi: 11:58am On Oct 09, 2015
MallamYahaya:
So Buhari is responsible for the fall in oil prices because he didn't study economics at school cert level? I wonder what you studied.


I thought the megida promised to stabilise oil prices ni? What happened AFTER election?



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Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by 989900: 11:59am On Oct 09, 2015
Activa:


Don't defend rubbish.

Jonathan's government failed woefully by not saving when prices were high. This is not arguable!

Buhari's government is too slow to roll out its economic roadmap. This is not arguable!

Be objective and just love your country.

Well said.

I wonder why people can't be open minded.
undecided
Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by 989900: 12:06pm On Oct 09, 2015
alexlee50:
u know the funny thing about life, people choose to remember what they like and forget whatever they don't like.who told u Jonathan did not save? Did he not leave 30b dollars when he was going? Do u know it would have been more? If not for these greedy governors that clamoured that they should share the money.do u remember sovereign wealth fund? Do u remember some governors went round and said it was not constitutional?do u know why the states were in debts despite the huge money the FG released to them? Because they embarked on useless projects which were over inflated and were not of economic importance to people of their states.for instance jigawa is building an airport, tell me what jigawa needs an airport when it is less than 1hr to kano? Why does osun need a chopper to fly aregbe around? Despite the huge money collected by oshoimole he couldn't do more than airport road in benin.this is the case of most of the governors. Do u know that this bail out funds some used it to buy vehicles for security personel as in the case of adamawa and yobe? Do u know that the FG releases enough to cover recurrent expenditure and that we shoild not have found ourselves in this position in the first place? When Jonathan left behindd 30b dollars. The reason j.p Morgan and Barclays are suspending sales in our bonds is because of lack of economic policy.This man has been ruling this country alone since may 29th without any policy on economy, health, education, please is this right? Investors are scared and pulling out funds from the economy on daily basis, inemployment is rising and you are blaming Jonathan? Wake up, if u see bad thing condemn am.


How much was our foreign reserves in 1999 and how much was oil sold for on the average?

How much was our foreign reserves in 2007 and how much was oil sold for on the average between '99-'07?

How much was our foreign reserves in 2009 and how much was oil sold for on the average between '07'-'09?

How much was our foreign reserves in 2015 and how much was oil sold for on the average between '10-'15?



Hopefully, you can answer the above^^ correctly
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Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by anonimi: 12:10pm On Oct 09, 2015
Activa:
The same way the governors took on Obasanjo on the same issue and he was still able to save? The FG (under Obasanjo) was also taken to court. Governors have always wanted to share the money.

What did Obasanjo do that Jonathan couldn't?

Talk about weak leadership...

Pls stop defending weak leadership. Everything depends on leadership.

We the CITIZENS are the weak ones. That is why we expect Buhari or some other SINGULAR leader to "deal with" our looting 36 state governors and 774 LGA Chairmen, not so

The leaderS simply reflect what OUR values are through our elected representatives at different levels.

Obasanjo was LAWLESS.
The man who withheld Lagos LGA funds despite our Supreme Court ruling otherwise?
The Agbaya who supervised electoral frauds and ignored court judgements against such political CORRUPTION?

Jonathan promoted Law & Order and allowed our democratic INSTITUTIONS to grow.
Any CIVILISED person does not need a lawless person, masquerading as strong leader, to make him do the right thing.
NO! He needs good laws:

- made by his senators and representative
- upheld/enforced by the police etc.
- properly interpreted by the courts.



Have you wondered why many Nigerians are not praying & fasting to cross the desert and Mediterranean Sea to end up in LAWLESS, dictator countries but prefer Western Europe and North American democracies


Africa does NOT need strong men.
It needs strong INSTITUTIONS.

~ Barack Hussein Obama


Let me leave you with this LESSON from Tinubu to General Bully Aminu of Ota.


[size=14pt]Tinubu Tackles FG, CBN On Excess Crude Oil Sales Account[/size]
Feb 22, 2001









The Lagos State Governor, Senator Bola Ahmed Tinubu, yesterday joined issues with the Federal Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank of Nigeria (CB N) over the recent face-off between the different tiers of government on the excess crude oil sales reserve account of US$ 1. 8 billion which is about N198 billion.

Expressing concern at the impression being created that the economy is rudderless, Tinubu argued that the central issue transcends the release or non-release of the fund into the Federation Account.

In his words: “The fundamental issues and principles at stake go much deeper. They are more broadly about the rule of law and the supremacy of the constitution on one hand, and the need for cooperation and coordination in a true federal structure, as a basis for sustaining and strengthening our fledgling democracy on the other hand”.

Governor Tinubu [size=14pt]disagreed with the CBN's position that release of the excess crude reserves to the states and local governments, though legitimate, [/size]would lead to inflation; cause a rundown of the nation's foreign reserves; weaken the exchange rate further and run counter to agreements reached with the IMF.

The Governor contended that "in a period of excess capacity and low purchasing power, there should not be undue inflationary pressures from an injection of funds into the economy. Instead, such a development should be beneficial to economic activity and growth, despite the fact that there are supply rigidities and inefficiencies which would limit the potential benefits”.

On the purported likely impact on foreign reserves, Tinubu argued that "in an import-dependent economy such as ours, it is inevitable that an upturn in the level of economic activity would engender a fall in foreign reserves. This is not necessarily a bad thing. Rather, it would be immoral to appear to be building up high foreign reserves in the midst of grinding poverty”.

He stressed further that if the N198 billion released is matched by an equivalent US$1.8 billion, there should not be a fall in the value of the Naira as the supply of dollars would be in place to match any increased demand”.

Tinubu also said it would be unfair for the federal government to agree unilaterally to commit revenues due to other tiers of government, to an agreement with the IMF or anyone else.

Attributing inflationary pressures in the economy largely to the federal government's overspending and printing of money to finance such expenditure, Tinubu said "It is hardly fair for the FGN to overspend and then seek to correct the inflationary effect on the economy by starving other tiers of government of their rightful funds”.

Stressing that there is no basis for CBN or any authority to flout the constitution and deny states and local governments their own share of the Federation Account, Tinubu noted that "the excess crude reserve account is itself an illegality, carried over from the military era, as there is no provision in the law or the constitution for federally - collected revenues to be diverted to such an account”.

Advocating constructive dialogue on the management of the economy Governor Tinubu said "it is time for us to sit down and dialogue about how to move from where we are now, to where we need to get to, while respecting true federalism in fiscal and other matters”.

From: http://asiwajubolatinubu.com/archives/news/2001/02/22/20010222N01.html

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Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by alexlee50: 1:20pm On Oct 09, 2015
989900:



[b]How much was our foreign reserves in 1999 and how much was oil sold for on the average?

How much was our foreign reserves in 2007 and how much was oil sold for on the average between '99-'07?

How much was our foreign reserves in 2009 and how much was oil sold for on the average between '07'-'09?

How much was our foreign reserves in 2015 and how much was oil sold for on the average between '10-'15?[/b]what is the point u are trying to make? Abdulsalam left about 2.5b dollars when he was leaving in '99.does that mean because vthere was a lull in the price oil then he didnt steal? If u can make your point clearer, would know how to respond.however the present downturn in the economy is not jonathans fault but as a result of lack of economic policy by the present administration.this is why foreign financial institutions no longer wants to trade in our bonds, this is why the capital market is losing billions of naira.nobody puts his money in an uncertain environment. Will u invest your own money in a business u are not sure of?


Hopefully, you can answer the above^^ correctly
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Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by 989900: 1:27pm On Oct 09, 2015
[quote author=alexlee50 post=38817001][/quote]

Answer the questions . . . the correct response to your comment is in the answers to the questions.

If you don't know the answers, then it will be needless doing the 'back and forth' with you on your initial comment.
Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by free13: 2:25pm On Oct 09, 2015
Hmm...
Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by Image123(m): 3:27pm On Oct 09, 2015
Summary, the list has just 19 countries, and we were included in 2013. No worries.
Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by Image123(m): 3:38pm On Oct 09, 2015
anonimi:



I thought the megida promised to stabilise oil prices ni? What happened AFTER election?



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He said to stabilize the market, that is already done or being done. He said it on a channelstv interview with Seun on politics today. The context was clearly about the disparities and several fluctuations in pump price i
.e FG changing/increasing fuel prices indiscriminately, fuel selling at different and above stated price in different parts of the country. i suppose you sit somewhere in one state and are not aware of this. Things have changed and improved greatly. We now buy petrol at it's stated price of 87 naira. Diesel and kerosene have also been affected. Subsidy money has also felt the change. We thank the Lord for our leader Buhari.
Re: Barclays may remove Nigeria's Membership In EM Local Currency Bond Index by grandstar(m): 5:56pm On Oct 09, 2015
HHANDM:
We hope a vibrant economic team will come aboard soon to chat a policy direction for this administration.

The earlier the better before the country turns economic pariah to foreign investors.

That is if buhari will listen to them

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