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Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by disumusa: 10:36pm On Oct 11, 2015
Vicotex:
Egusi soup (Igbo food) served side by side with Groundnut soup (Afemai food) in the coronation of the Uthairu/Ogie (King) and during "Age group".

They also use "Ogene" drum during their cultural occasion, e.g Age group, marriage etc.
igbo have weak culture, to them egunsi is an ibotraditional soup.
Egunsi is one of yoruba soup meaning pound and open,
egunsi have no ibo meaning and not igbo soup.
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by disumusa: 10:41pm On Oct 11, 2015
ekenedegreat:
What do you mean by using them as a tool?
i mean just to use them to achieve biafra dream, later turn them to minorities and dominate them.
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Xpaz: 10:42pm On Oct 11, 2015
PenSniper:



Aside from the falsehood inherent in your claim, let me remind you that only dummies with dwarfed mentality and a defective cognitive reasoning copy bad behaviours and make a show of it with pride.
Therefore, your post simply acknowledged Ibos as a bunch of dummies devoid of their own mind and sound reasoning faculty.
that one doesn't matter as long as d method dey are using is working for them.
at least d rate at which d Yorubas attack them have reduced.
d only reason d Yoruba are crying of hate is becos d Igbo returned back their hatred in a stronger way.
d Yoruba can't HV it both ways.
non of d Yorubas condemned d hate speeches made by Yoruba elders against d Igbo,ranging from d Yoruba movie produce who came out publicly to tweet and call d Igbo pirates,to whole Soyinka ,to ObA Akiolu.
instead d yorubas were praising them and helping them to promote d hate.

it's just now DAT d Igbo employed "mirror effect in a stronger way" that everyone remembered d meaning of hate.

my brother.
your dommies doesn't matter.
all is fair in war.

had it been that Radio Biafra had not pushed them to stop begging d Yoruba to leave them alone and start fighting back,
d Yoruba will call d Igbo weak and losers and label themselves sophisticated.

And you are saying that my claim that "the Yoruba HV been telling all sort of lies and propaganda against the Igbo in order to make other tribe to see d Igbo as bad people and therefore hate them is falsehood.
Read the comment below and explain that to me.
disumusa:
i mean just to use them to achieve biafra dream, later turn them to minorities and dominate them.

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Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Vicotex(m): 10:52pm On Oct 11, 2015
laudate:


Yes, o! Please don't say anything to me unless you have your facts ready. Your ability to deal in conjecture is quite strange, and when you are called out on it, you then take refuge in mundane remarks. sad My last comment was addressed to aim5 who drew an analogy between traditional Afenmai music and highlife sounds. Next time you want to allege that there is an Igbo influence on any other culture, please try to be specific by stating exactly what constitute those influences. undecided



Thanks for your response, jare.
go and ask your elders where is Ogene originated from.

Just like how i dislodge you the other time you were claim Etsako as an ethnic group in edo.
Mah niqqa u knw 0-nothing bout' those people in Edo. No be everything google go show nd no be everything wey dem show u be 100% fact/proof
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Nobody: 10:56pm On Oct 11, 2015
rhymaster:
Ibos have the most debilitating and shameful form of inferiority complex! Is it by force that he must be ibo? No other peoples of Nigeria would even bat an eye lid if someone said he is not Yoruba, Hausa, Ibibio, Edo, etc but say you are not Ibo and watch ibos relive their collosal loss of the civil war! The war dealt permanent damage to the psyche and brains of ibos. If Oliseh and his family deem themselves to be from Mars, how does that affect or should that affect anyone? Yes, the SE lost a match while he was in charge, but ibos now use that as a wedge? This is uncivilized and disgraceful. No sensible ibo will ever wish to be identified with petty, silly and illogical people driven by the destructive emotions of the ibo. Or does it pain you that you cannot cry marginalization of "our brother" like you always do? Most ibos need a brain transplant to normalize their existence! All your cries of the zoo is more than guaranteed to create more venom against you when you start another useless war like Ojukwj and no doubt this hatred will ensure you are hammered harder than 67, I worry Nigeria will not allow you to surrender and get amnesty like they did in 1970.


Your head is so messed up due to your mother's inability to control her own legs, hence you are born out of the dirtiest mixture of all the worst blood of most mad men in and around your village.
Poverty that is recking you and your 5Kobo mother is because your 7 insane, leg-wide, dirty rag tag sisters burn with the same waste blood as you have continue to represent their shamefull origin.
Yorubastard son of a s l o t.

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Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by FKO81(m): 11:07pm On Oct 11, 2015
House divided will fall
It's indeed, a landmark achievement by Ndiigbo in electing the first Ohanaeze President-General from a state other than the five South-Eastern States. This is a true demonstration of the height which we have reached and a direct response to those who say Igbos are well unable to forge any sense of unity among themselves. Many often interpret this saying to mean that Igbos, as viewed through the lens of those who occupy the South-East geographical zone, cannot agree on a common line of action, but in the broader sense, this also mocks the inability of Igbo brothers and sisters in the South-East and the South-South to stay united or at the least even openly identify with one another. A bold statement against those rejoicing over the disuntiy among Igbos has thus been made with the election of Ambassador Ralph Uwaechue from Delta State as the former President-General of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo.

Just as the election of Barack Obama as the first black President of the United States doesn't end racism, so does the election of Amb. Ralph Uwaechue, as significant as it is, doesn't end the need for a continued quest among Igbos to forge stronger ties across the Niger, as well as ensure that the now fading psychological line which demarcates the Igbos of the South-East from their brothers in Delta, Rivers and other States and vice-versa, is eventually, nay rapidly erased.

There are many ways through which unbridled unity can be achieved among the Igbo through the creation of a sense of oneness. Firstly, arguments from both sides of the divide should be greatly scrutinized and attended to.

On the side of the Igbos from Delta and Rivers States, various accusations that range from negligence, favouritism ... are traded. Igbos from these areas have said time and again that the generality of Igbos never officially appreciate or celebrate their sons and daughters when appointed in office, or when remarkable achievements are made by them. A good example is the appointment of Sir Mike Okiro as the Inspector General of Police, being the first Igbo man to occupy the position since after the civil war.

Igbos in the South East rather clamoured for the appointment of Ogbonnaya Onovo, on the grounds that, according to them, Onovo was an Igbo man and that the presidency deliberately didn't want Igbos to occupy such a sensitive position. What does that now make Mike Okiro? A tribeless person or an outcast?

Paul Dike's ascension as Defence Chief was better accepted by the generality of Igbos, perhaps due to the fact that lessons had been learnt from the embarrassing scenario which occurred during Mike Okiro's appointment. Infact, it's so bad that when Igbos learn of an achievement made by one of its sons, some stop in mid-celebration when they learn the Igbo person question hails from outside the South-East zone.

Some accuse the Igbos in the South East of selective acceptance, laying claim to only non-South Eastern Igbos who have achieved enviable landmarks in their chosen professions, like Jay Jay Okocha, Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, Kingsley Obodo, Jim Ovia, Tony Elumelu, Sebastian Adigwe, Francis Atuche, Nuel Ojei, Peter Okocha, Sunny Odogwu and a host of other super stars who all hail from Delta State, along with notable ones from Rivers State like Chioma Ajunwa, Comdedian Julius Agwu to mention a few.

South Eastern Igbos respond that those who they identify with are those who initially identify with them, like Jay Jay Okocha and Okonjo Iweala, even stating that sometimes, people forget that a luminary like Pat Utomi is not from one of the five South Eastern States because of the way he has freely and openly associated himself not just with the South East as a group of people, but with the entire Igbo nation, which he is one of.

Utomi needs no ones permission to flaunt his Igboness. Yet others are of the opinion that the South easterners shouldn't wait to be identified with before reciprocating, as such show betrays the consciousness that they are the self-appointed custodians of the Igbo nation.

Another argument from across the bridge is that the Igbos from the South East do not show much sympathy to the cause of their brothers outside their zone, in matters that require external support. An example is the current efforts by the people of Anioma in Delta state to create Anioma State out of Delta State. Inspite of the obvious gains this will have for the Igbos in that region of Delta State along with its easier intergration with their brethren in the South east, little seems to be done by the governors of the Igbo states or even the Ohanaeze in this regard.

On the side of the Igbos from the South East, numerous accusations of self-denial by the Igbos from Delta and Rivers States are at the fore-front of their grievances. They say that no matter where you meet a full blooded Igbo man from Delta, Rivers or Bayelsa State, he'll never admit to being Igbo. Some do so when you're with them only to recant once a third party comes into the picture, and they do so even more fervently when they are in the midst of non-Igbos, to the utter embarrassment of Ndiigo and of course, the perpetual astonishment and amusement of the non-Igbos who then, justify their stance that Igbos aren't united. After all, "seeing" they say "is believing."

It is essential to note that before the Civil War, such open disownment of Igbos by Igbos wasn't the case. The prevelance of this came as a result of Igbos who lived with non-Igbos in the old Bendel State and later during the creation of Rivers State with the Ijaws, etc, to believe that the loss of the war was a South Eastern affair, and so, for them to survive and escape the sanctions of the war by the Nigerian Federation, had to identify with their non-Igbo neighbours by denying being Igbo. This is inspite of the fact that an Igbo man from Delta State ( then Bendel State ), Major Chukwuma Nzeogwu, was the man who non-Igbos pinpointed as the catalyst to the war. Nzeogwu will be turning in his grave today, as Igbos from his very state and community disdain his utter sacrifice by denying him and their entire origin.

I believe that the time for these issues have come and gone. I will however, not fail to strongly blame the present generation of leaders and parent folk, the elders among them especially, for playing a role that on one hand, ensured that non-South Eastern Igbos told their children often and on, that they were not Igbos, while on the other hand, South Eastern Igbos told their children that they were real Igbos while anyone from the South East wasn't a real Igbo person. This went on even though parents on both sides knew that such mis-education was not true, but just to spite the other. The result is a divided Igbo nation that is just waking up from its deepest slumber.

As the tragic drama that has held us bound for so many years continues to disappear, I urge Ohanaeze, being the apex Igbo body and a source of common convergence for all Igbos irrespective of State of origin, to make very clear and deliberate efforts in bringing Igbos together through actions and re-educative efforts that include:

* The use of Nollywood to convey messages. As the Nigerian film industry is booming, the advantage that a majority of players in every sector of the industry are Igbos. Through the medium of films, many commentaries and documentaries a swell as modern epic block-busters should be churned out en masse, to re-educate Igbos and the young generation of what their origins are and who they truly are.

* Igbo authors should be commissioned to write on this incident, tracing the history of the Igbos and how we came to be at this stage, and possible solutions in their write up. Books and novels, both fictitious and non-fictitious, should be written to enlighten the populace.

* Joint developmental projects as initiated by the South East should also, at all times, be inclusive of the Anioma people and all other Igbos in the South-South. Always painting such projects as an all Eastern affair further alienates others. There's nothing wrong, or long in terms of grammar or in print, in saying or writing things like: " The Economic Summit of the South East, Anioma & Igbos From Rivers State."

* Inclusion of the History of Igbos in all schools that are situated in all Igbo speaking areas worldwide, with an emphasis on destroying the walls of hate and division that have been built between Igbos in different regions of the country.

* Strong endorsement for the creation of Anioma State. Let's not worry about the oil wealth of the southern part of Delta State being denied Delta North ( Anioma ). There's evidence that oil exists in the Anioma side of Delta State too, our enemies sees our weakness to divide us politically, when you go up north they are so many tribes Hausa, Fulani, Nupe etc Arewa people congress bind them together same with west, Yorubas , Ijabus, awori, egba are different tribes Oduduwa binds them together, often times Ijabus affirm their links with southern Sudan. House divided will fall, together will stand

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Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by laudate: 11:27pm On Oct 11, 2015
Vicotex:
go and ask your elders where is Ogene originated from.

Just like how i dislodge you the other time you were claim Etsako as an ethnic group in edo.
Mah niqqa u knw 0-nothing bout' those people in Edo. No be everything google go show nd no be everything wey dem show u be 100% fact/proof

Guy, we all know where the Ogene comes from. Other ethnic groups have their own versions, which they have christened in their own indigenous languages. Period. undecided

When and where did you 'dislodge' me? Point out the thread, and paste the link here so we can verify, because we all know that conjecture and hyperbole are your middle names. And my knowledge about Edo people does NOT come from google. I have relatives married to Edo people, so do not presume to tell me what I already know! shocked
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Abagworo(m): 9:16am On Oct 12, 2015
Oliseh going by this singular act has proven himself incompetent to handle a multi ethnic team like Super Eagles. It is so shameful. He introduced himself as Ogochukwu Olise but went all out to clarify he wasn't Igbo when nobody asked him. He is suffering from a complex.

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Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by tpiander: 9:20am On Oct 12, 2015
Xpaz:

"mirror effect".

hm
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Marotzke(m): 11:48am On Oct 12, 2015
PenSniper:



Even if Ogbemudia's mother is Ibo, does that make him Ibo ?
Ogbemudia's mother was Igbo. She was also Edo. So there are Igbos indigenous to Edo. That's the argument. Same as there are Igalas indigenous to Anambra.

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Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by laudate: 12:26pm On Oct 12, 2015
Marotzke:
Ogbemudia's mother was Igbo. She was also Edo. So there are Igbos indigenous to Edo. That's the argument. Same as there are Igalas indigenous to Anambra.

That was NOT the argument!! Next time you do not know something, ask! shocked The issue was that Esan and Afenmai women wear two wrappers and they are NOT in any way related to the Igbo.

You keep chanting about 'Igbo people in Edo', when those guys constitute a minority in the whole state. It is doubtful if they are up to 20% of the entire population of the whole of Edo state. Chai! shocked The majority are not even making noise.
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Nobody: 12:40pm On Oct 12, 2015
FreeGlobe:
As we begin to criticise Sunday Oliseh over his decisions, tactics and losses let's remember he is not Igbo. Let the criticisms be based on it merits. Again, Sunday Oliseh is NOT igbo!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8g3fQn3zuA



To deny being igbo cannot make u a kanuri man
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Eastlink(m): 1:13pm On Oct 12, 2015
FKO81:
House divided will fall
It's indeed, a landmark achievement by Ndiigbo in electing the first Ohanaeze President-General from a state other than the five South-Eastern States. This is a true demonstration of the height which we have reached and a direct response to those who say Igbos are well unable to forge any sense of unity among themselves. Many often interpret this saying to mean that Igbos, as viewed through the lens of those who occupy the South-East geographical zone, cannot agree on a common line of action, but in the broader sense, this also mocks the inability of Igbo brothers and sisters in the South-East and the South-South to stay united or at the least even openly identify with one another. A bold statement against those rejoicing over the disuntiy among Igbos has thus been made with the election of Ambassador Ralph Uwaechue from Delta State as the former President-General of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo.

Just as the election of Barack Obama as the first black President of the United States doesn't end racism, so does the election of Amb. Ralph Uwaechue, as significant as it is, doesn't end the need for a continued quest among Igbos to forge stronger ties across the Niger, as well as ensure that the now fading psychological line which demarcates the Igbos of the South-East from their brothers in Delta, Rivers and other States and vice-versa, is eventually, nay rapidly erased.

There are many ways through which unbridled unity can be achieved among the Igbo through the creation of a sense of oneness. Firstly, arguments from both sides of the divide should be greatly scrutinized and attended to.

On the side of the Igbos from Delta and Rivers States, various accusations that range from negligence, favouritism ... are traded. Igbos from these areas have said time and again that the generality of Igbos never officially appreciate or celebrate their sons and daughters when appointed in office, or when remarkable achievements are made by them. A good example is the appointment of Sir Mike Okiro as the Inspector General of Police, being the first Igbo man to occupy the position since after the civil war.

Igbos in the South East rather clamoured for the appointment of Ogbonnaya Onovo, on the grounds that, according to them, Onovo was an Igbo man and that the presidency deliberately didn't want Igbos to occupy such a sensitive position. What does that now make Mike Okiro? A tribeless person or an outcast?

Paul Dike's ascension as Defence Chief was better accepted by the generality of Igbos, perhaps due to the fact that lessons had been learnt from the embarrassing scenario which occurred during Mike Okiro's appointment. Infact, it's so bad that when Igbos learn of an achievement made by one of its sons, some stop in mid-celebration when they learn the Igbo person question hails from outside the South-East zone.

Some accuse the Igbos in the South East of selective acceptance, laying claim to only non-South Eastern Igbos who have achieved enviable landmarks in their chosen professions, like Jay Jay Okocha, Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, Kingsley Obodo, Jim Ovia, Tony Elumelu, Sebastian Adigwe, Francis Atuche, Nuel Ojei, Peter Okocha, Sunny Odogwu and a host of other super stars who all hail from Delta State, along with notable ones from Rivers State like Chioma Ajunwa, Comdedian Julius Agwu to mention a few.

South Eastern Igbos respond that those who they identify with are those who initially identify with them, like Jay Jay Okocha and Okonjo Iweala, even stating that sometimes, people forget that a luminary like Pat Utomi is not from one of the five South Eastern States because of the way he has freely and openly associated himself not just with the South East as a group of people, but with the entire Igbo nation, which he is one of.

Utomi needs no ones permission to flaunt his Igboness. Yet others are of the opinion that the South easterners shouldn't wait to be identified with before reciprocating, as such show betrays the consciousness that they are the self-appointed custodians of the Igbo nation.

Another argument from across the bridge is that the Igbos from the South East do not show much sympathy to the cause of their brothers outside their zone, in matters that require external support. An example is the current efforts by the people of Anioma in Delta state to create Anioma State out of Delta State. Inspite of the obvious gains this will have for the Igbos in that region of Delta State along with its easier intergration with their brethren in the South east, little seems to be done by the governors of the Igbo states or even the Ohanaeze in this regard.

On the side of the Igbos from the South East, numerous accusations of self-denial by the Igbos from Delta and Rivers States are at the fore-front of their grievances. They say that no matter where you meet a full blooded Igbo man from Delta, Rivers or Bayelsa State, he'll never admit to being Igbo. Some do so when you're with them only to recant once a third party comes into the picture, and they do so even more fervently when they are in the midst of non-Igbos, to the utter embarrassment of Ndiigo and of course, the perpetual astonishment and amusement of the non-Igbos who then, justify their stance that Igbos aren't united. After all, "seeing" they say "is believing."

It is essential to note that before the Civil War, such open disownment of Igbos by Igbos wasn't the case. The prevelance of this came as a result of Igbos who lived with non-Igbos in the old Bendel State and later during the creation of Rivers State with the Ijaws, etc, to believe that the loss of the war was a South Eastern affair, and so, for them to survive and escape the sanctions of the war by the Nigerian Federation, had to identify with their non-Igbo neighbours by denying being Igbo. This is inspite of the fact that an Igbo man from Delta State ( then Bendel State ), Major Chukwuma Nzeogwu, was the man who non-Igbos pinpointed as the catalyst to the war. Nzeogwu will be turning in his grave today, as Igbos from his very state and community disdain his utter sacrifice by denying him and their entire origin.

I believe that the time for these issues have come and gone. I will however, not fail to strongly blame the present generation of leaders and parent folk, the elders among them especially, for playing a role that on one hand, ensured that non-South Eastern Igbos told their children often and on, that they were not Igbos, while on the other hand, South Eastern Igbos told their children that they were real Igbos while anyone from the South East wasn't a real Igbo person. This went on even though parents on both sides knew that such mis-education was not true, but just to spite the other. The result is a divided Igbo nation that is just waking up from its deepest slumber.

As the tragic drama that has held us bound for so many years continues to disappear, I urge Ohanaeze, being the apex Igbo body and a source of common convergence for all Igbos irrespective of State of origin, to make very clear and deliberate efforts in bringing Igbos together through actions and re-educative efforts that include:

* The use of Nollywood to convey messages. As the Nigerian film industry is booming, the advantage that a majority of players in every sector of the industry are Igbos. Through the medium of films, many commentaries and documentaries a swell as modern epic block-busters should be churned out en masse, to re-educate Igbos and the young generation of what their origins are and who they truly are.

* Igbo authors should be commissioned to write on this incident, tracing the history of the Igbos and how we came to be at this stage, and possible solutions in their write up. Books and novels, both fictitious and non-fictitious, should be written to enlighten the populace.

* Joint developmental projects as initiated by the South East should also, at all times, be inclusive of the Anioma people and all other Igbos in the South-South. Always painting such projects as an all Eastern affair further alienates others. There's nothing wrong, or long in terms of grammar or in print, in saying or writing things like: " The Economic Summit of the South East, Anioma & Igbos From Rivers State."

* Inclusion of the History of Igbos in all schools that are situated in all Igbo speaking areas worldwide, with an emphasis on destroying the walls of hate and division that have been built between Igbos in different regions of the country.

* Strong endorsement for the creation of Anioma State. Let's not worry about the oil wealth of the southern part of Delta State being denied Delta North ( Anioma ). There's evidence that oil exists in the Anioma side of Delta State too, our enemies sees our weakness to divide us politically, when you go up north they are so many tribes Hausa, Fulani, Nupe etc Arewa people congress bind them together same with west, Yorubas , Ijabus, awori, egba are different tribes Oduduwa binds them together, often times Ijabus affirm their links with southern Sudan. House divided will fall, together will stand
Good one nwanne. Some of the things you highlighted have been achieved, while others are still in progress.

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Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by kingzizzy: 2:14pm On Oct 12, 2015
Sunday Ogochukwu Oliseh is an Ika man from Abavoh. Even the name of the king of the Ika people is Ikechukwu. This is all one needs to know if they are wondering if Ika people are Igbo or not. One thing I do know, when we Igbos get Biafra, not one inch of Delta-Igboland will be conceded to Nigeria.
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by kingzizzy: 2:20pm On Oct 12, 2015
rhymaster:
Ibos have the most debilitating and shameful form of inferiority complex! Is it by force that he must be ibo? No other peoples of Nigeria would even bat an eye lid if someone said he is not Yoruba, Hausa, Ibibio, Edo, etc but say you are not Ibo and watch ibos relive their collosal loss of the civil war! The war dealt permanent damage to the psyche and brains of ibos. If Oliseh and his family deem themselves to be from Mars, how does that affect or should that affect anyone? Yes, the SE lost a match while he was in charge, but ibos now use that as a wedge? This is uncivilized and disgraceful. No sensible ibo will ever wish to be identified with petty, silly and illogical people driven by the destructive emotions of the ibo. Or does it pain you that you cannot cry marginalization of "our brother" like you always do? Most ibos need a brain transplant to normalize their existence! All your cries of the zoo is more than guaranteed to create more venom against you when you start another useless war like Ojukwj and no doubt this hatred will ensure you are hammered harder than 67, I worry Nigeria will not allow you to surrender and get amnesty like they did in 1970.


You think the war ended? It didn't, what we have had is just a 45 year ceasefire.
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by disumusa: 2:34pm On Oct 12, 2015
kingzizzy:



You think the war ended? It didn't, what we have had is just a 45 year ceasefire.
and to me the fire will still cease till infinity.
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by disumusa: 2:36pm On Oct 12, 2015
kingzizzy:
Sunday Ogochukwu Oliseh is an Ika man from Abavoh. Even the name of the king of the Ika people is Ikechukwu. This is all one needs to know if they are wondering if Ika people are Igbo or not. One thing I do know, when we Igbos get Biafra, not one inch of Delta-Igboland will be conceded to Nigeria.
i need a cleaner or house help
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Nobody: 4:25am On Oct 13, 2015
disumusa:
i mean just to use them to achieve biafra dream, later turn them to minorities and dominate them.
So, in that your tiny brain that's what you can come up with?
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Nobody: 4:27am On Oct 13, 2015
laudate:


Nah, all the shallowness resides in your own mind. Check am well. sad
How?
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by DonXavi(m): 2:44pm On Oct 13, 2015
ghf
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by swaggylomo: 7:40am On Oct 19, 2015
freshvine:

20 years ago there was no Delta State. Where was he from then?
20yrs ago there was delta state, Delta was formed in 1991
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Dega128(m): 9:43am On Oct 21, 2015
FKO81:
House divided will fall
It's indeed, a landmark achievement by Ndiigbo in electing the first Ohanaeze President-General from a state other than the five South-Eastern States. This is a true demonstration of the height which we have reached and a direct response to those who say Igbos are well unable to forge any sense of unity among themselves. Many often interpret this saying to mean that Igbos, as viewed through the lens of those who occupy the South-East geographical zone, cannot agree on a common line of action, but in the broader sense, this also mocks the inability of Igbo brothers and sisters in the South-East and the South-South to stay united or at the least even openly identify with one another. A bold statement against those rejoicing over the disuntiy among Igbos has thus been made with the election of Ambassador Ralph Uwaechue from Delta State as the former President-General of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo.

Just as the election of Barack Obama as the first black President of the United States doesn't end racism, so does the election of Amb. Ralph Uwaechue, as significant as it is, doesn't end the need for a continued quest among Igbos to forge stronger ties across the Niger, as well as ensure that the now fading psychological line which demarcates the Igbos of the South-East from their brothers in Delta, Rivers and other States and vice-versa, is eventually, nay rapidly erased.

There are many ways through which unbridled unity can be achieved among the Igbo through the creation of a sense of oneness. Firstly, arguments from both sides of the divide should be greatly scrutinized and attended to.

On the side of the Igbos from Delta and Rivers States, various accusations that range from negligence, favouritism ... are traded. Igbos from these areas have said time and again that the generality of Igbos never officially appreciate or celebrate their sons and daughters when appointed in office, or when remarkable achievements are made by them. A good example is the appointment of Sir Mike Okiro as the Inspector General of Police, being the first Igbo man to occupy the position since after the civil war.

Igbos in the South East rather clamoured for the appointment of Ogbonnaya Onovo, on the grounds that, according to them, Onovo was an Igbo man and that the presidency deliberately didn't want Igbos to occupy such a sensitive position. What does that now make Mike Okiro? A tribeless person or an outcast?

Paul Dike's ascension as Defence Chief was better accepted by the generality of Igbos, perhaps due to the fact that lessons had been learnt from the embarrassing scenario which occurred during Mike Okiro's appointment. Infact, it's so bad that when Igbos learn of an achievement made by one of its sons, some stop in mid-celebration when they learn the Igbo person question hails from outside the South-East zone.

Some accuse the Igbos in the South East of selective acceptance, laying claim to only non-South Eastern Igbos who have achieved enviable landmarks in their chosen professions, like Jay Jay Okocha, Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, Kingsley Obodo, Jim Ovia, Tony Elumelu, Sebastian Adigwe, Francis Atuche, Nuel Ojei, Peter Okocha, Sunny Odogwu and a host of other super stars who all hail from Delta State, along with notable ones from Rivers State like Chioma Ajunwa, Comdedian Julius Agwu to mention a few.

South Eastern Igbos respond that those who they identify with are those who initially identify with them, like Jay Jay Okocha and Okonjo Iweala, even stating that sometimes, people forget that a luminary like Pat Utomi is not from one of the five South Eastern States because of the way he has freely and openly associated himself not just with the South East as a group of people, but with the entire Igbo nation, which he is one of.

Utomi needs no ones permission to flaunt his Igboness. Yet others are of the opinion that the South easterners shouldn't wait to be identified with before reciprocating, as such show betrays the consciousness that they are the self-appointed custodians of the Igbo nation.

Another argument from across the bridge is that the Igbos from the South East do not show much sympathy to the cause of their brothers outside their zone, in matters that require external support. An example is the current efforts by the people of Anioma in Delta state to create Anioma State out of Delta State. Inspite of the obvious gains this will have for the Igbos in that region of Delta State along with its easier intergration with their brethren in the South east, little seems to be done by the governors of the Igbo states or even the Ohanaeze in this regard.

On the side of the Igbos from the South East, numerous accusations of self-denial by the Igbos from Delta and Rivers States are at the fore-front of their grievances. They say that no matter where you meet a full blooded Igbo man from Delta, Rivers or Bayelsa State, he'll never admit to being Igbo. Some do so when you're with them only to recant once a third party comes into the picture, and they do so even more fervently when they are in the midst of non-Igbos, to the utter embarrassment of Ndiigo and of course, the perpetual astonishment and amusement of the non-Igbos who then, justify their stance that Igbos aren't united. After all, "seeing" they say "is believing."

It is essential to note that before the Civil War, such open disownment of Igbos by Igbos wasn't the case. The prevelance of this came as a result of Igbos who lived with non-Igbos in the old Bendel State and later during the creation of Rivers State with the Ijaws, etc, to believe that the loss of the war was a South Eastern affair, and so, for them to survive and escape the sanctions of the war by the Nigerian Federation, had to identify with their non-Igbo neighbours by denying being Igbo. This is inspite of the fact that an Igbo man from Delta State ( then Bendel State ), Major Chukwuma Nzeogwu, was the man who non-Igbos pinpointed as the catalyst to the war. Nzeogwu will be turning in his grave today, as Igbos from his very state and community disdain his utter sacrifice by denying him and their entire origin.

I believe that the time for these issues have come and gone. I will however, not fail to strongly blame the present generation of leaders and parent folk, the elders among them especially, for playing a role that on one hand, ensured that non-South Eastern Igbos told their children often and on, that they were not Igbos, while on the other hand, South Eastern Igbos told their children that they were real Igbos while anyone from the South East wasn't a real Igbo person. This went on even though parents on both sides knew that such mis-education was not true, but just to spite the other. The result is a divided Igbo nation that is just waking up from its deepest slumber.

As the tragic drama that has held us bound for so many years continues to disappear, I urge Ohanaeze, being the apex Igbo body and a source of common convergence for all Igbos irrespective of State of origin, to make very clear and deliberate efforts in bringing Igbos together through actions and re-educative efforts that include:

* The use of Nollywood to convey messages. As the Nigerian film industry is booming, the advantage that a majority of players in every sector of the industry are Igbos. Through the medium of films, many commentaries and documentaries a swell as modern epic block-busters should be churned out en masse, to re-educate Igbos and the young generation of what their origins are and who they truly are.

* Igbo authors should be commissioned to write on this incident, tracing the history of the Igbos and how we came to be at this stage, and possible solutions in their write up. Books and novels, both fictitious and non-fictitious, should be written to enlighten the populace.

* Joint developmental projects as initiated by the South East should also, at all times, be inclusive of the Anioma people and all other Igbos in the South-South. Always painting such projects as an all Eastern affair further alienates others. There's nothing wrong, or long in terms of grammar or in print, in saying or writing things like: " The Economic Summit of the South East, Anioma & Igbos From Rivers State."

* Inclusion of the History of Igbos in all schools that are situated in all Igbo speaking areas worldwide, with an emphasis on destroying the walls of hate and division that have been built between Igbos in different regions of the country.

* Strong endorsement for the creation of Anioma State. Let's not worry about the oil wealth of the southern part of Delta State being denied Delta North ( Anioma ). There's evidence that oil exists in the Anioma side of Delta State too, our enemies sees our weakness to divide us politically, when you go up north they are so many tribes Hausa, Fulani, Nupe etc Arewa people congress bind them together same with west, Yorubas , Ijabus, awori, egba are different tribes Oduduwa binds them together, often times Ijabus affirm their links with southern Sudan. House divided will fall, together will stand
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Jackonory: 2:30am On Apr 05, 2021
freshvine:


20 years ago there was no Delta State. Where was he from then?

BENDEL.........

NOT BIAFLA

HE NEVER ONCE SUPPORTED YOUR SUPLEME READER.
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Jackonory: 2:30am On Apr 05, 2021
Dbboy:
When you loose your identity then you are bound to fail.look at his antecedent at the national team before and now, that why no matter how nice he played he couldn't bring back the ANC trophy, he is indeed a lost cause. I don't pity him.

HE WON THE ANC IN 1994
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Jackonory: 2:31am On Apr 05, 2021
OK, answer this one... Before the amalgamation of Nigeria by the British which was over 100yrs ago, people from Oliseh's clan were of which tribe?

ABAVO
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by PROUDIGBO(m): 2:56am On Apr 05, 2021
rhymaster:
Ibos have the most debilitating and shameful form of inferiority complex! Is it by force that he must be ibo? No other peoples of Nigeria would even bat an eye lid if someone said he is not Yoruba, Hausa, Ibibio, Edo, etc but say you are not Ibo and watch ibos relive their collosal loss of the civil war! The war dealt permanent damage to the psyche and brains of ibos. If Oliseh and his family deem themselves to be from Mars, how does that affect or should that affect anyone? Yes, the SE lost a match while he was in charge, but ibos now use that as a wedge? This is uncivilized and disgraceful. No sensible ibo will ever wish to be identified with petty, silly and illogical people driven by the destructive emotions of the ibo. Or does it pain you that you cannot cry marginalization of "our brother" like you always do? Most ibos need a brain transplant to normalize their existence! All your cries of the zoo is more than guaranteed to create more venom against you when you start another useless war like Ojukwj and no doubt this hatred will ensure you are hammered harder than 67, I worry Nigeria will not allow you to surrender and get amnesty like they did in 1970.

Notice the way this fool not only misspells Igbo but also uses small letter i at the beginning of his idiocy, while using capital letters at the beginning while spelling other ethnicities!?

The hate is deep-seated! smiley
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Jackonory: 3:50am On Apr 06, 2021
[url]https://www.thecable.ng/igbo-crime-culture
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THE IGBO CRIME CULTURE


In the sweltering heat of a serial lynching and killing of Igbo citizens in Asia in 2013, I wrote an article entitled, ‘The Igbo fallacy’. In it, I appealed to the Igbo to de-emphasise the culture of profligacy, decadent opulence, debauchery and vanity which fuels the pursuit of crime by their own.

I am compelled to revivify the article here, but with a few adjustments. I say it again; the Igbo take the inglorious front row in certain crimes – drug peddling, armed robbery and kidnapping – at home and abroad.

In August 2016, an Igbo drug dealer was guillotined in Indonesia. But his funeral in Anambra was a shin-dig of celebrations. He was even described as a “hero” by his kinsmen.

Once again, an Igbo kidnapping lord, who unleashed barbarity and savagery on many Nigerians, has steadied attention on the “special” crime proclivities of the ethnic group. I will not dwell on this; I will zero in on Igbo criminality abroad, and take a slight detour home.

As a matter of fact, a good number of Igbo youth in Asia are into crime. It was reported sometime in the year that the India police said all Nigerians – Igbo, of course – in their country were drug dealers. Although, this is questionable, it cannot be entirely repudiated.

Arguably, the reason for Igbo sojourning – to even the remotest of places in the world – has been attributed to their much vaunted entrepreneurial spirit. The truth is that this claim is enclosed in heavy, meaty layers of fallacy like the entrails of burger.

Inasmuch as the “entrepreneurial sojourning” thread cannot be utterly pooh-poohed, it is judicious to explore other reasons why the Igbo are peripatetic. First, in Igbo ethology, it is a cringing evil for a native, man or woman, to commit a “stigmatised” crime (Alu) such as armed robbery, drug-dealing, etc at home. This is not an obviation of abhorrent crimes committed at home by some unabashed Igbo criminals. The truth is, the “home” Igbo criminals are a hopeless and shameless horde whose self esteem and sense of shame are terribly at their nadir, and as a result purvey crimes at home. Inter alia, for any stigmatised crime committed at home (Igbo land) there is a stern reprimand implicit in the cleansing of the crime. The sacerdotal process of cleansing the land of a crime or an abomination is called “Ikpu Alu”. However, “Ikpu Alu” (cleansing of abominations) does not extend to crimes committed by Igbo sons and daughters in places outside the native dome. It is therefore not surprising if some Igbo persons commit heinous crimes in obverse places, and come back home to take chieftaincy titles. As a matter of fact, in some morally weak Igbo communities it is a brave thing to traffic in drugs abroad. Drug barons are gleefully celebrated as Ndi kara Obi (lion-hearted people). Such is the pantomime of the Igbo and crimes.

It is therefore indubitable to posit that an unenviable number of Igbo persons with innate criminal manuals travel outside the Igbo enclave to pursue crimes. This confutes the general idea that the sojourning of the Igbo is driven solely by entrepreneurial inclinations and motives. To a large extent, the sojourning of some Igbo is driven by a morbid aim of shielding their evil trades from the peering eyes of their kinsmen. Their names are protected as long as they do not traffic in crimes at home. The important thing is to be successful in crimes abroad; successful enough to build vulgar mansions at home and throw lazy cash about.

To animate my argument further, what is the entrepreneurial inclination or motive of the Igbo in India, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand, South Africa, and other countries peddling drugs? Is the entrepreneurial spirit of the Igbo only awakened abroad? Why should the Igbo entrepreneurial spirit find its host cozily and lopsidedly outside Igbo land? Is there a marriage between Igbo criminality across the world and Igbo entrepreneurial genome? These are questions that defeat the long, tired argument of Igbo entrepreneurial “peripatetism.”

The fact is the “entrepreneurial” beat-up logic and reason for Igbo sojourning is a bored excuse.

Analogously, Igbo sojourning atavism is also effectuated by pride, ego and vanity. A typical Igbo person will want to prove he is successful in anyway. It is wickedly mortifying to be seen as struggling in Igbo land. This underscores the reason many Igbo persons smuggle themselves out of Nigeria, and because it is thought that any person in Obodo Oyibo (white man’s country) or even anywhere outside Igbo land is “doing well”. Those Igbo persons who are “cursed” to be in Igbo land are seen as struggling and as such do not deserve the courtesy of admiration and respect. It is a proud thing for an Igbo father to say, “All my children are in the abroad”; even though “the abroad” is Gabon. Such a father courts the respect, envy and admiration of other fathers in Igbo land. This is the awful linkage between Igbo sojourning and base vanity.

In all, there are Igbo persons in the scrawny good number whose sojourn in foreign countries is not tainted by any evil intent or base vanity, but it is a bleeding fact that the singular Igbo entrepreneurial logic for sojourning is one big smorgasbord of fallacy.





Your head is so messed up due to your mother's inability to control her own legs, hence you are born out of the dirtiest mixture of all the worst blood of most mad men in and around your village.
Poverty that is recking you and your 5Kobo mother is because your 7 insane, leg-wide, dirty rag tag sisters burn with the same waste blood as you have continue to represent their shamefull origin.
Yorubastard son of a s l o t.
Re: Reminder: Sunday Oliseh Is NOT Igbo by Konquest: 4:34pm On Feb 11
FreeGlobe:
As we begin to criticise Sunday Oliseh over his decisions, tactics and losses let's remember he is not Igbo. Let the criticisms be based on it merits. Again, Sunday Oliseh is NOT igbo!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8g3fQn3zuA
Bump.
I just got to fully watch this video after so many years.

Wow! That was a fantastic TEDx talk from Sunday Oliseh. Very brilliant convo that got me laughing and smiling.

He did say he is from Abavo (the second largest town after Agbor in the Ika South LGA of Delta State) and was born and raised in Lagos State. He speaks English, French, German, Italian, and some Dutch. (He speaks Yoruba as well though).

Sunday Oliseh was an awesome midfielder back then who would accurately shoot the soccer ball from the midfield to Rashidi Yekini (an attacker) who would then do damage to the opposing sides by smashing the ball into the net.

Powerful memories.

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