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Why You Should Be Very Careful What Church You Attend - A MUST READ! by AVRecruit: 11:48pm On Nov 08, 2015
Different Kinds of Mami-wata in the Church Part 1


Dear Chief Apostle (Prof.) Vic N. Ronnie
My name is Chidubem Okwu . . . ., I am a pastor, but I have disappointed God and I really don’t know where to begin to tell my story.
I must tell you the truth. I can’t really say if I have a call or not. I was a Sunday school teacher in my church for 9 years at Kaduna. In 1999 I was led to start a church, but from the experiences I have gathered now I cannot say I was actually led by the Holy Spirit to start that church. As at 2008, I was not making any progress both spiritually and materially.
I saw many churches which began several years after mine and they were making waves and are still making progress. At a point I did not know what to do again and after discussing with my wife I decided to approach the general overseer of a church that began 7 years after I started my ministry and explained to him that personally I was not making any headway and same with my ministry.
My ministry would grow up to 200 people and after a short period it would shrink to 50 people and at time it would grow to 150 and shrink to 40 people.
I approached him because the growth in his church was fast. He began the church in 2006 and by 2012 he was recording 11,000 people on a Sunday service and he was also making good money and riding great and big cars including the latest jeeps.
After listening to me, he promised to help me solve my problem. He said I needed to be empowered and that it is going to cost me some amount of money besides, I need to have a big and strong heart. Then he asked me if I have got a strong heart and I told him that I have as long as it is not going to involve killing a fellow human being. He asked me thrice if I have got a strong heart and I consistently gave him the same answer.
Again he asked me if I want a single empowerment or double empowerment and I asked him which one is better and he said double empowerment is better but, it will cost me a lot of money and that after the empowerment I am going to be told how to maintain and renew the power.
This time I became afraid and I asked him if the maintenance and renewal involves any ritual, he said no that whatever the renewal and maintenance will involve are just normal things that I am already doing so I should not be afraid. He said I should go and raise three hundred and fifty thousand naira (350,000.00) which I had to borrow from my wife.
The next day I handed over the money to him and he asked me to go and get ready that we shall be going to Lagos and Port-Harcourt. I got ready and we took flight from Abuja to Lagos that same day.
In Lagos we lodged at the guest house of a big ministry and at 11.30p.m we went out in a private car to the Barbeach. At the Barbeach we were at the bank when he spoke some unknown language and told me that a woman was going to come out of the water and that I should do whatever she says.
As soon as he said that, there was rumbling on the surface of the water and a mermaid came out of it. The general overseer told me not to be afraid that the mami-wata will not harm me so I picked courage when I saw her.
When she came to the surface of the water, the lower part of her body was fishlike, but my eyes were transfixed as that lower part and as she was getting close to me it became human part. Then she came to me and asked me to have sex with her which I did in the presence of the general overseer.
After having sex with her, she put her hand in her vagina and made a sign of the cross on my forehead and my palm and told me that she has empowered me and that I will see the difference.
Re: Why You Should Be Very Careful What Church You Attend - A MUST READ! by AVRecruit: 11:48pm On Nov 08, 2015
The mami-wata left me, went to the general overseer and brought out a golden cross and chain from her stomach and wore it on the neck of the general overseer who gave her some money. The mami-wata thank him and went back into the sea. All the time she spoke in English language.
When we eventually got back to the ministry’s quest house, the general overseer told me that we have to go to the church of that ministry because they were having night vigil and when we got there, I was given an opportunity to minister in the church and as I raised my hands from the altar the members began to fall on themselves and some were tumbling on others and I must say I was almost embarrassed because I never expected the manifestation of the mami-wata power to be so soon.
After the all night service we went back to the guest house and the general overseer asked me if I was happy the way the power manifested and I said yes.
He told me that we should go to bed and take some sleep because we shall be going to Port-Harcourt that evening.
In afternoon as I was sleeping that same mami-wata I had sex with at the Bar beach came to me in my dream and told me that to maintain and also constantly renew the power I must be having sex with a virgin once a month so this jolted me out of sleep. I went to the general overseer’s room to explain what I saw and heard in my dream and he said it is no problem.
When I asked him how I was going to be getting the virgins he said he was going to assist me get them, but I need to pay for his service. Honestly chief Apostle after this I wanted to backout, but I had no courage to say or do so.
While at the Bar beach I saw many pastors who came there with other senior pastors. It is like a tradition.
There must be a senior pastor bringing in younger pastors and I believe each senior pastor had a particular mami-wata they relate with because I saw up to ten mami-wata attending to some other young pastors.
In the evening we were at the local airport in Lagos and took a flight to Port-Harcourt. At Port-Harcourt we lodged in the guest house of another ministry and at mid-night we got out eventually arriving in a very big compound of a woman called Eze-Nwanyi inside the compound were many houses.
We met many pastors there including first generational churches’ pastors. When it was my turn the general overseer paid some money and itemized what should be done for me.
When I went into the room I was surprised it was a woman again and as I was thinking – woman again! I found myself on top the woman on a bed in an adjacent room. Honestly I have not been able to recall how I found myself on that bed. I had sex with her and also sucked her breasts.
After the sexual session she made some animal cry and administered some stuff into my eyes and I began immediately to see into the spirit world and also discussed with some spirit beings. After that she gave me a bottle of olive oil which she called “do as I say”. She said with this the members of my church will do whatever I ask them to do.
She also gave me another bottle of olive oil which she called “all seeing oil”. She said with the oil I can see deep into people’s secret and a bottle of olive oil which she called “slaying oil” for slaying people during prayer. She finally gave me two more bottles of olive oil. The first one is “crowd pulling oil” and the second one is “touch and follow” – which I will be using to hypnotize women especially virgins because I will be having sex with them and married women to renew the empowerment. She said I could have sex and immediately after that I could go straight into ministration without having my bath. She bound me with oath of secrecy.
We left that same midnight and went back to the lodge and the general overseer told me to rub the touch and follow oil and we went to the vigil of the church we were lodging in their guest house and I was allowed to minister and I burst into prophesy to my own astonishment.
In the morning two virgins were sent to the general overseer and he gave me one so we took them to the guest house and had sex with them.
What really surprised me was that the young girls never asked where we were taking them to and why we were taking them there which is unusual for virgin girls.
When the girls left, the general overseer told me that from now I have to concentrate my sermons around prosperity and stop salvation and righteousness messages. He said I should be sending tithes to him and that he know how part of the tithes will get to the woman at Port-Harcourt.
Eventually we left Port-Harcourt to Abuja and back to Kaduna. When I began service after my return things began to change. Money began to come, the crowd also began to come and within one week miracles, deliverance followed by prosperity began to happen in the church, the spirit of prophecy came in like I had never seen it in my life.
I have been having sex with virgin girls and married women and things have been working out fine for my family and the church for the past six years, but I have gotten to a stage in which I am no longer feeling comfortable with the whole thing. I have had dreams in which I saw myself burning in hell. I have had this dream of hell seven times and in one of the dreams I woke only for the same dream to continue when I went back to bed.
I have been having sleepless nights and many nights I get raped by that same mami-wata I have lost two of my children mysteriously, but through the same pattern.
Re: Why You Should Be Very Careful What Church You Attend - A MUST READ! by AVRecruit: 11:49pm On Nov 08, 2015
For the past three months I have not been able to get virgin girls and this has affected the power as it is going down. I want to get out of this whole issue even if it means closing the church I have gone to the general overseer and he said it was too late for me to get out.
He threatened me with mysterious death. He said it is not possible for me to turn against the mami-wata and Eze-Nwanyi because they are already part of my life. I told him that I will do everything positively possible to get myself out of this.
Three days later two men approached me and told me that if I love my life I should vanish from Kaduna because they have been paid by the general overseer to eliminate me, so I had to close the church and left the town finally after two days.
As I am writing to you now I have nothing to hold on to but, only God Almighty.
The problem is that God seems to be very far from me no matter how much and fervent I have been calling on Him and asking for His mercies.
I know I have offended Him, but I know He is a God of second chance. I have read your books – Overcoming the Queen of the Coast series and I strongly believe you are the only one that God can use to help me out of this physical hell I have put myself.
I am really afraid of going to meet any other person (man of God) because those who are using devilish powers are more than those who use the power of God. For some time now I have not been sleeping at night and I also at times hallucinate. Sir, I urgently need your help because I believe time is running out for me as the attack from the marine kingdom increases. No other pastor has exposed them like you. I know I have transferred many spirits into so many people and I want to know what I can do so that those people can be free from these wicked and evil spirits.
Chief Apostle, it is really unfortunate that the Church of our Lord Jesus Christ has been taken over by Mami-wata. The number of pastors using marine spirits is alarming and more of them are getting initiated daily into this wicked kingdom so are these pastors initiating their spiritually illiterate members.
Before I messed up myself spiritually, I had always wondered why members of churches follow their pastors sheepishly, but now I know better.
The marine kingdom is working day and night to overtake the church and unfortunately the church is sleeping. In the last two months I have had four car crashes and I know they want to eliminate me, but God has been my helper and my only hope.
They have killed my two children and now they want me dead. I am becoming afraid of staying alone because of some bizarre spiritual appearances I see and things have began to move in my brain and body. Any time I start praying the movement would start and sometimes I feel the movement in my marrow.
The greatest need I have now is to be forgiven by God. If I can get His forgiveness I don’t mind dying after that because I really don’t want to go to hell.
I have been misled by the general overseer just as so many young pastors have been misled by their general overseers and senior pastors.
Sir, I know you are a very busy person. I will appreciate if you find time to pray over this my problems and seek the face of the Lord on how He will use you to help me out. I know that if I am forgiven, my deliverance will be easy. I regret selling my soul to marine spirits.
The Eze-Nwanyi is also a very strong mami-wata agent.
I look forward to hearing from you
Your co-servant in the Lord
Pastor Chidubem Okwu . . . .
Telephone no 080633481 . .”
Re: Why You Should Be Very Careful What Church You Attend - A MUST READ! by AVRecruit: 11:49pm On Nov 08, 2015
Author’s Response
When I received this letter I called the number over three times, but it was switched off so the next day I called and it went through. A woman took the call and when I asked to speak to pastor Chidubem, I was told that he was had died in a car crash the previous day and I was dumbfounded. I just expressed my condolences to the woman who later told me that she was his wife that she has to amend her ways with the Lord and move ahead with her life and she expressed gratitude and thanked me.
After I cut off the discussion I was frozen on a spot for over five minutes until my son came and touched me asking what the matter was.
I must say that it is very unfortunate this pastor died. Those of us alive need to be extremely careful on what we do and where we place our hands. When we want success by worldly standard we can easily soil our hands.
I know that if he had not started to get out of these evil powers they wouldn’t have killed him.
Only God knows if he was forgiven by God before his sudden death if not no one need to tell you his destination by now.
We must make choices in life and whatever choices we make there are consequences and we should be ready to accept the consequences of the choices we have made.
God is not going to hold the general overseer responsible for the choice made by the late pastor.
I know there are different strokes of mami-wata in the church today. The first is where the pastor deliberately took powers from mami-wata and he becomes an agent of mami-wata and initiates his members.
The second is where the pastor was born with mami-wata power especially children of witch doctors, mami-wata priests and priestesses, priests and priestesses of other idols. These powers have become part of them while some were actually initiated into the dark kingdom when they were very young because their parents want them to perpetuate the dark powers in their families and along the line these children become Christians and decided to use the dark powers in them to work for God. There are some who are not aware the powers they are using are not of God, but simply because they see into the spirit realm and prophesy they erroneously believe God is the one using them. While such pastors are ministering, members are being initiated. That is why spiritually sensitive members will observe that certain negative things began to happen to them when they began to attend such churches.
Another one is where mami-wata has initiated many girls and sends them to different churches. They penetrate the churches with sex and many of them are in the choir and youth ministry. A girl of 15 who was one of the mami-wata agents told me that she had destroyed the ministry of 12 pastors through sex. She said to me:
“Sir, I am the princess of the kingdom of water. We are many we live on both land and water. We have been sent to churches to destroy pastors through sex. Our Ogbanje cult family operates from Benue River and I got initiated through biscuit at school. Once the spirit comes into me I lose control of myself and start looking for pastors to have sex with. I have collected the manhood of all the pastors I slept with. They will not be able to give babies to women again in their lives”.
She said she was the assistant choir mistress in her church and she told me that she sings well and had a good voice. When I told her that the voice she use to sing was from mami-wata and it was different from her normal voice she agreed with me.
I asked her where she was initiated she said in several rivers namely:

• Imo Mmiri
• Iyi Ocha
• Iyi Ntusi
• Iyi Afo
• Iyi Ogwe
• Otammiri
• Agbala Iyi Ogwe

Here is someone initiated in several rivers. She got into the church without any deliverance and became an assistant choir mistress. She told me she had already initiated over half of the entire church choir into mami-wata.
She also told me she had assigned several incubi to many girls in the choir and succubi to many boys in the choir.
She said to me:
“Prof, I wear choir uniform but, my heart is a mami-wata heart I used sex to initiate pastors into mami-wata cult”
There are some married women in the church who have been initiated in the church and their job is to pollute young boys sexually.
They also spend their money on these boys. I have met some pastors who actually know that these things are happening in their churches, but they are helpless and don’t know what to do because themselves are not delivered therefore they rarely organize special periodic deliverance service for their members.
The mami-wata empowered pastors will do anything to keep their members in bondage. They take advantage of the hopelessness, hunger and spiritual stupidity of their members. One of them impregnated three members of his church at the same time meanwhile two members of the church already had three children for him.
One of them called Rev. Gordon . . . . of Holy Spirit Ministry Fellowship, Abisim, Ghana was caught having sex with a sheep that he had tied to a tree. It was the painful bleating of the sheep that alerted residents who wrongly thought someone was about stealing the sheep. He was arrested by the police. The police handcuffed him to the sheep and he was paraded before the press.
Another one had always raped his own daughter just before each service. His name is Pastor Kofi Yire . . . . known to his members or Jesus sharp sharp or Jesus one touch. The same handkerchief he used to wipe himself and his daughter he pulls out during his sermons wiping his face.
These mami-wata pastors perform “miracles” and “healing” including deliverance that are questionable. I have witnessed healing and miracles in my own ministry. I simply prayed and God did the miracles and healings including deliverance. I didn’t have to perform any thing.
These pastors shake wildly as they throw and slash their hands sometime their feet is also involved. I was watching a Nigerian “pastor” performing “miracle” on You-tube. When he squat the people he was healing uncontrollably squat too and when he stood they stood.
Unfortunately these members have no discernment of spirits so they accept everything happening here as that of God.
On another instance I watched a self-styled Ghana pastor and self made bishop performing miracles on you-tube. He was too theatrical and he was more of a shaman in his demonstration which included walking over sick women who were lying down. He could not even respect the dignity of the women. If you hand a troubled leg, he will stretch his own leg, straighten it and rob it consecutively for about five minutes and he will command the person to stand up. The person will stand up and the members of the church would applaud.
In some cases he had to run to and fro the church as if waiting to be energized by some sinister forces. This same self-styled bishop was said to have used voodoo to scatter the flock of another pastor, yet spiritually daft Christians see him as a man of God.
Re: Why You Should Be Very Careful What Church You Attend - A MUST READ! by AVRecruit: 11:50pm On Nov 08, 2015
In another instance somebody had problem on his head and the self acclaimed bishop continued to hit his own head on the wall several time and the sick man got up claiming he had been instantaneously healed.
On June 30th 1996 to be precise was the last day I worked with the defunct Afribank Nigeria PLC.
I was packing my personal effects because I was not returning to the bank after my vacation when a pastor walked me asking after “pastor ronnie” and I told him I am the person he was seeking so I asked him to sit down.
He told me he wanted me to come to his church to minister and that it was a three day event which he tagged “revival and regeneration”.
I asked him to bow his head and let us pray. As I was praying God revealed that he had had bath with the blood of a day old baby.
I was stunned so I looked straight into his eyes holding my Bible with my two hands I said God just reveled to me that you had bath with the blood of a day old baby. On hearing this he collapsed his head on my table hitting the table with a thud and he began to weep.
I told him that weeping will not solve his problems then he opened up to me that he did it ten years ago while seeking for power. I said “power to work for God or Satan” and he remained speechless. I asked him if he has children and he said two and I asked him if he could surrender any of them for ritual and he said “no”. He took his Bible that he had placed on my table and told me he was coming back, but I never saw him again until I finally left the town in three months’ time.
One thing that amazes me about the pastors is that many Western pastors visit them giving approval to what they are doing believing that this is charismatic. I am not saying God is not moving charismatically in Africa, but the charismatic movement in Africa is filled with satanic practices that need to be addressed. I am charismatic and not anti-charismatic, but the truth must be told.
The new charismatic movement in Africa has adopted the African religious world view instead of challenging it. The question now is how many of these charismatic pastors have call? Most of them see pastoring as an occupation and will go to any length to outshine those who have genuine call.
I agree that most if not all of these pastors are first generational Christians who need to work through several cultural, traditional and tribal issues, but instead of working through them, they have like ancient Rome incorporated these ancestral and ancient practices into Christianity. I am not saying every charismatic pastor in Africa is involved in these practices, but not less than 90% of them are involved.
I know that the ministries of deliverance and healing have become some of the most important expression of Christianity in Pentecostalism in Africa, yet this is not enough reason why pastors should go to any length to seek satanic powers to demonstrate healing and deliverance.
Pentecostal theology in Africa or African Pentecostal theology is about power of the gospel of Jesus Christ, but most of these pastors are going beyond the power of Christ to work for God.
In 2014 a teenage girl told a court at Abuja how she was defiled by the general overseer of a church. She said the pastor told her that he needed to have sex with her to cleanse her. Could somebody please tell me what the relationship between sex and deliverance is. The girl recalls.
“Papa said it was a continuous deliverance, and he had to sleep with me to clean the dirt inside me and cleanse my future.
I agreed to the deliverance. During the deliverance he carried a white handkerchief and a bottle of olive oil and asked me to remove my clothes. He also asked me if I was on my period and I told him no. He told me that I was possessed with evil spirits that had stained my blood, and it will only take my husband to deliver me and I was not married.”
She said the general overseer led her into his bedroom and asked her to close her eyes, brought his handkerchief and placed it over her head and she became weak and he raped her.
Definitely the handkerchief was a voodoo handkerchief yet the man is a man of God. Many Nigerian pastors go to Antoa Nyama, a Ghanaian mami-wata for empowerment just as many pastors from Ghana come to the Bar beach in Lagos to be empowered. Some Nigerian pastors go as far as Bombay in India seeks mami-wata power to work for God. One great joy I have is that everybody will give account of himself to God on the day of judgement. It is very unfortunate that pastors go into pact with Satan just because they want power by all means and at all cost. God has not stopped deliverance for his people and same for healing. If He has called you, He is able to empower you. The fact that miracles, deliverance and healing are taking place in a ministry or church doesn’t mean that the power of God is there.
These pastors are living in high immorality and they are performing “miracles”.
King Manasseh was the first person that brought mami-wata into the church.
In 2008 Pastor Benjamin Ojo . . . . and his wife of Brotherhood of the Cross and Star, Asaba were arrested in Delta State with a human head. The pastor confessed to using human heads to prepare rituals for his members. He also added that he functions during the day as a pastor and at night as a witchdoctor. He recalls:
“I got it (human head) through somebody called John, who works in a cemetery. He brought it for me and said I should buy and I bought it for N3,000. Yes, I am a man of God. But I do this outside church hours. I am both a native doctor and a man of God. This is my personal practices. I do it to complement my church job and I have been assisting a lot of people with it. I use human skulls to do charms for prosperity, to make money and protection. After preparing the charms, I give them to members of our church and other people who are not members.”
One of my teachers at all Nations for Christ Bible Institute, International, Benin City, Edo State, Arch bishop Joseph Ojo, of Calvary Kingdom Church postulates:
“The biggest challenge facing Christendom, especially Pentecostal Christianity in Nigeria is the invasion of people who are not called by God. You know, there are people who are that, if I want to use a very loose term I will call them touts, have hijacked the pulpit. They are not representing Christ. They are representing their stomach. They are representing their worldly mundane desires.


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Re: Why You Should Be Very Careful What Church You Attend - A MUST READ! by tripplephi: 12:12am On Nov 09, 2015
THESE STORIES ARE NOT FICTIONS BUT THEY ARE REAL, ONLY THE MERCY OF GOD CAN SAVE US IN THESE LAST DAYS..... GONE ARE THE DAYS WHERE WE WENT TO CHURCH BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SERVE GOD, NOWADAYS PEOPLE GO TO CHURCH TO SEEK PROPHECY OR HEALING AND THE HEARING OF THE WORD IS SO OUT DATED NOW..... LORD, HELP ME NEVER TO BE A VICTIM OF THESE MARINE AGENTS O.... GIVE ME A HEART THAT OBEYS YOUR WORD LORD... I RECEIVE GRACE TO DO ALL YOU NEED ME TO DO IN THIS WORLD AND TO BE ALL YOU NEED ME TO BE. I LOVE YOU LORD. I PRAY YOU REMOVE FROM OUR HEARTS THE CRAVE FOR FAME AND MONEY AND THE SPIRIT OF COMPETITION. JESUS YOU ARE MY LORD FOREVER MORE. AMEN. BRETHREN LET HIM THAT HAS HEAR, LET HIM HEAR

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Re: Why You Should Be Very Careful What Church You Attend - A MUST READ! by ORACLE1975(m): 3:48am On Nov 09, 2015
GOD of Marcy
Re: Why You Should Be Very Careful What Church You Attend - A MUST READ! by Sparkle777(f): 8:04am On Nov 09, 2015
Oh God, pls save me. I think its better we just mention the names of popular men of God who are part of the mami water religion. Lest we all fall into doom.
Re: Why You Should Be Very Careful What Church You Attend - A MUST READ! by Goodyshoes(m): 9:28am On Nov 09, 2015
Well cooked up fiction.......
How can you believe in the existence of 'mami water'

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Re: Why You Should Be Very Careful What Church You Attend - A MUST READ! by PastorandMentor(m): 10:35am On Nov 09, 2015
shocked
Re: Why You Should Be Very Careful What Church You Attend - A MUST READ! by AVRecruit: 2:20pm On Nov 09, 2015
Mountain of Fire and Miracles is one of the best churches in Nigeria right now.
Re: Why You Should Be Very Careful What Church You Attend - A MUST READ! by Natty14(m): 8:43pm On Nov 09, 2015
cock n bull things and things... mtcheww

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Re: Why You Should Be Very Careful What Church You Attend - A MUST READ! by Anonykj: 3:36am On Nov 12, 2016
How can I contact Chief Apostle (Prof.) Vic N. Ronnie

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