Hero10001:

He who takes offense when no offense is intended is a fool, and he who takes offense when offense is not intended is a greater fool.
No offense.

maybe the most euphemistic word to use when trying to speak good of someone's religion/tribe/race is to say they are 'backward'.

Once a doctor certify the individual is dead, then what is left than to bury him? Most people don't like the idea of keeping their dead body in morgues and all that crap.

TheShopKeeper:
Historically, among the native Bedouin tribe of the Arabs, before the advent of Islam, because they tend to move around a lot due to looking for vegetation & oasis for themselves & their livestocks bury their dead immediately.

They can't afford to be carrying dead bodies around because they don't have natural abodes.

This burial rites waa copied by the moslems, hence reason why the dead are buried almost immediately or next day.

Na wa for these historians o. Okay so among us, did we use to keep corpse before the advent of mortuary?

BALLOSKI:
maybe the most euphemistic word to use when trying to speak good of someone's religion/tribe/race is to say they are 'backward'.

The last time i checked the word "backward" is never an insult.

vedaxcool:
Once a doctor certify the individual is dead, then what is left than to bury him? Most people don't like the idea of keeping their dead body in morgues and all that crap.

If Audu is your dad would have buried him without knowing the cause of death?!
Comon.

The reason for prompt burial in Islam stems not from Bedouin culture but from mohammed's death.

Mohammed was murdered by his favorite wife, Aisha.

Mohammed had a simmering beef with his earliest and once devout follower and father (Abu Bakr) to Aisha over who will take over from him after his demise.

Mohammed had preferred his adopted son and nephew, Ali.

Abu Bakr felt betrayed by mohammed's heir apparent claiming he had done more in spreading islam and waging jihad than any one.

Abu Bakr also was becoming more open and brazen in his doubts on Mohammed's authenticity as a prophet and in several instances had shown disrespect to Mohammed in public.

A power struggle between Abu Bakr and those loyal to Mohammed began to manifest and sooner the sycophants that swarmed around Mohammed began to feed him with Abu Bakr's ambitions to murder the Prophet and take his place.

Mohammed could not act on this tip because Abu Bakr was from a powerful family and tribe and also as mohammed's father-inlaw, Mohammed was not able to act against his on family.

The plot to disown Abu Bakr was then set by mohammed's camp who saw that to rid and discredit Abu Bakr, Mohammed needed to divorce Aisha. The only way to do this was to spread a rumour of infidelity and adultery by Aisha.

Aisha was hated by those in Mohammed camp for her insolence. She had also began to undermine the Prophet in public out of jealousy after Mohammed began to frequent a beautiful Jewess's tent more than Aisha and that of his other wives.

The allegations of Aisha's adultery began to spread after she spent the night in the desert with a young buck. The young lovers had snuck away from camp to spend the night only to wake up the next morning to find the caravan had left to Mecca. Mohammed only found out about Aisha's absence when he arrived Mecca later in the day.

Hero10001:

How long did it take you to come up with this one?

i should be asking u same question, because uv already qouted me ealier.gerrarrahere jor

Hero10001:

I'm you don't know the meaning of the word "Buried"
were you held back at pry 2 or we blame it on islam?!
Lazarus and Jesus wasn't buried.

Really When someone is kept in a tomb, what is it called again?

That aside, what is the significance of baptism? Just in case you forgot, it implies being dead with christ, buried with him, and resurrecting with him.. na wah oo... .its too early to start trading insults. Argue logically with your brain and stop insulting people

Hero10001:
I've seen more intelligence in the crotch lice of edo whores.

Is your mom edo?

The sight of Aisha sharing the same camel with a young handsome man into Mecca was enough to spread the rumours that Aisha had cheated on Mohammed.

Aisha's only excuse was that she had lost a necklace and strayed to look for it only to return to find the caravan had left and that the kind gentlemen that she rode into town was gracious enough to give her a lift and escorts into town.

Offcourse everybody in Mecca at that time knew it was pure hogwash and soon rumours of Aisha's adultery was firmly planted among the meccans who were itching to see if Mohammed will pronounce judgement on his once favorite and spoilt brat, Aisha.

The meccans also knew of the rift brewing within and knew that there were two factions among the muhajadeens and couldn't wait to see how things will turn out between Abu Bakr and Mohammed after Mohammed orderd his daughter to be stoned for adultery


The stage was then set. Abu Bakr knew that the longer he stood and waited without doing anything the more his reputation and life of his daughter hung in the balance.

Abu Bakr then connived with is daughter to poison mohammed.

Details of mohamned's final hours point to signs of poisoning and the fact that the Prophet was found dead in Aisha's camp which he had avoided for something after aisha's meccan entry also points to something fishy.

Abu Bakr was the first to be notified of mohammed's death by his daughter Aisha.

Abu Bakr then hastily arranged a burial to prevent anyone noticing the obvious signs of poisoning.


After Mohammed was buried, Abu Bakr will later declare himself Khalifa and from there a civil war ensued in Islam between Abu Bakr camp and Mohammed's appointed heir and nephew, Ali.

That war is still ongoing in the form of Sunni and Shiite war.

So we can see that the rushed burials in Islam stem from mohammed's murder and concealment


Now you can all come and insult your father

tobimillar:


Am afraid, The Muslims are right on this. The dead should be buried so that the pain and emotional wahala is soon forgotten. It's our 'owambe' and flair for parties that makes Christians wait for months before burying the dead.

Lazarus in the Bible was buried immediately before Jesus came to raise him .. even Jesus was buried immediately he died...

Christians should be Christians i.e Christlike

Lazarus was nt buried immediately. It was Jesus dat delayed purposely . Read d bible.

lets say, a mans father died and he had to wait for 1month to come up with money for the burial,during the burial of his father the mother also died, so he waited for another month to come up with another money for the burial,same thing happened during his mothers burial,his unmarried brother also died, are u still going to tell that man to wait for another month to get money for the burial? stvpidity at its peak!

tobimillar:


Really When someone is kept in a tomb, what is it called again?

That aside, what is the significance of baptism? Just in case you forgot, it implies being dead with christ, buried with him, and resurrecting with him.. na wah oo... .its too early to start trading insults. Argue logically with your brain and stop insulting people

If your dad died like Audu did, would you bury him same day?

vedaxcool:
Once a doctor certify the individual is dead, then what is left than to bury him? Most people don't like the idea of keeping their dead body in morgues and all that crap.

Mohammed was murdered by Aisha on the orders of her father Abu Bakr.

There is no pronouncemt on how to bury the dead in the Koran.

It is all in the hadith which unlike the koran are second hand and mostly dubious claims of what Mohammed said or did.

The Hadiths were narrated by Abu Bakr and Aisha of all people.

Quick burials in Islam stem from murder and cover up of islam's prophet by his once trusted general and favorite wife.

adjoviomole:



Lazarus was nt buried immediately. It was Jesus dat delayed purposely . Read d bible.

Lazarus was poor.

Interment with spices and oils is done before entombment. This was an ancient form of embalment that the poor could not afford.

This was why Lazarus was buried in haste.

Hero10001:
Honestly, islam is too backward.

What about if what killed the person spread to the living ones if he left unburied? Ebola, Lassa fever etc comes to mind.

This is a serious situation that demand immediate remedy. unfortunately earlier pips to comment were just trolls.

ziccoit:


What about if what killed the person spread to the living ones if he left unburied? Ebola, Lassa fever etc comes to mind.

Good thinking! but how will they know its Ebola or whatever when no autopsy was perform?
Imagine how decimated Lagos population and Nigeria as a whole(it is bound to be spread as people flees the dead zone) would have been if all that contracted the deadly ebola were bury the same day with cause of deaths unknown.
Some believers would have ignorantly tag it, "The wrath of God"

ziccoit:


What about if what killed the person spread to the living ones if he left unburied? Ebola, Lassa fever etc comes to mind.

Well, we're talking bout the sudden death of late Audu.
It maybe a crime and burying him now won't reveal anything.

Hero10001:

If Audu is your dad would have buried him without knowing the cause of death?!
Comon.

Is there any suspicion someone murdered him? Abeg if you no get work this morning go climb palm tree and fetch palmwine

RevDesmondJuju:



[s]Mohammed was murdered by Aisha on the orders of her father Abu Bakr.

There is no pronouncemt on how to bury the dead in the Koran.

It is all in the hadith which unlike the koran are second hand and mostly dubious claims of what Mohammed said or did.

The Hadiths were narrated by Abu Bakr and Aisha of all people.

Quick burials in Islam stem from murder and cover up of islam's prophet by his once trusted general and favorite wife.[/s]

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You were born a foo.l and you would most assuredly die as one! Desist from quoting me since your form of reasoning lack intelligence or wisdom

TheShopKeeper:
Historically, among the native Bedouin tribe of the Arabs, before the advent of Islam, because they tend to move around a lot due to looking for vegetation & oasis for themselves & their livestocks bury their dead immediately.

They can't afford to be carrying dead bodies around because they don't have natural abodes.

This burial rites waa copied by the moslems, hence reason why the dead are buried almost immediately or next day.

This sounds more plausible.

Jewish & Muslim Burials

Both Islam and Judaism highly regulate the burial of the deceased within their communities. The Jewish tradition tells of a raven that showed Adam and Eve what to do with the body of their dead son Abel by scratching at the earth to reveal the buried body of one of its own. In the Quran, a crow is sent by Allah to show Cain how to bury his brother Abel. As a result, burial of the dead is a religious obligation in both religions and for a body to go unburied is a great affront.




Rules About Burials
Both traditions require the prompt burial of the dead. Ideally, the body is to be buried on the same day of the death. Islam and Judaism forbid embalming and routine autopsies as desecration of the dead. However, both religions consider organ donation as permissible. Muslims are strictly forbidden from cremating the dead while Jewish rules on cremation vary. Conservative Jews oppose cremation while it is an increasingly more popular and acceptable practice among Reform Jews.

Preparing the Body
Muslims are obligated to perform ghusl, or washing, on the body of the deceased member of the community. A deceased man should be washed by a male relative and a deceased woman by a female relative. All clothes are removed from the body with private areas covered. The body is then washed three times with a combination of water and scented oils similar to performing wudu, or the ablutions, required before prayer. The body is then wrapped in a plain white cloth called a kafan, which consists of three pieces of material for men and five pieces for women. The kafan is knotted at the head and feet.
Judaism also requires the body of the deceased to be washed and dressed in a process called taharah. Washing of the body, called rechitzah, is performed by members of the chevra kadisha, a society of individuals responsible for the proper burial of deceased members of the Jewish community. Similar to the Muslim washing practices, Jewish tradition holds that a deceased male should be washed by a man and a female by a woman. After the body is washed, it is ritually purified either by submersion in mikvah, or ritual bath, or by a continuous stream of water poured over the body. The body is then wrapped in a white shroud, typically made from linen or muslin, called tachrichim. Often, deceased men will be buried wearing a yarmulke and tallit, or prayer shawl.

Funerals and Mourning
Muslim mourners pray for the deceased in a congregational prayer led by an Imam positioned between the mourners and the wrapped body. He stands at the head of the body if the deceased is male and at the middle of the body if female, facing qibla, or the direction of Mecca. The prayer involves takbir, or the declaration that “God is great,” and reading the Quranic passage Surat al-Fatihah. The wrapped body is then carried to the cemetery in an open bier with mourners marching behind the body. While weeping is acceptable, exaggerated displays of mourning, like wailing and the tearing of clothing, is forbidden.
Jewish funerals involve prayer, a eulogy, and reading of psalms. Typically, the prayers performed are El Maleh Rachamim, or the memorial prayer, and Mourner's Kaddish, or the mourner's blessing. Eulogies should praise the deceased and express the sorrow of the mourners. Jews perform a mourning ritual called keriah wherein a piece of clothing is torn to symbolize grief. For the death of a parent, the tear should be on the left side, over the hear. For all other relations, the tear should be on the right side.

Interment
Muslims do not bury their dead in caskets, instead Muslims are buried directly in an excavated grave. Relatives of the deceased orient the body to face qibla, the direction of Mecca. No possessions should accompany the deceased in the grave and the grave should not be decorated. Jewish law prescribes the deceased be buried in a simple pine box made without any metal components. At the grave site, a Rabbi recites various prayers and the Mourner's Kaddish. Traditionally, each mourner places dirt in the grave after the casket has been lowered.

http://people.opposingviews.com/jewish-muslim-burial-practices-9005.html

Hero10001:

I'm you don't know the meaning of the word "Buried"
were you held back at pry 2 or we blame it on islam?!
Lazarus and Jesus wasn't buried.

Calm down. You come across as aggresive.
I think I get your drift though. Burial is different from entombment.
Burial connotes putting something under and covering up the thing, in this case, digging a hole in the ground and covering it up with sand. It explains the idiom to be six feet below.
A tomb on the other hand by construction is like a room/chamber to keep dead people.
Essentially, someone buried is under the earth while someone entombed is above/on earth, in a matter of speaking.
Lazarus was kept in a tomb but bound with grave cloths/ribbon if you like, Jesus was kept in a tomb too but covered with a white cloth but the Jews made sure the tomb was sealed tight with a stone that will prolly take a quarter of a legion or more to roll away while some centurion still kept watch over the tomb.
The significance of this difference between burial and entombment is that while a supposedly dead person should come alive, he cannot escape from the six feet of earth that has covered him, while someone entombed if not put in a casket can still survive if he for any reason comes back to life after allegedly pronounced dead.
Don't know the reason why muslims bury them rightt away...could wait a couple of days and in high profile cases such as Audu's, an autopsy carried out and then the dead man buried.
That should still be in order.

My thoughts.

I've read unbelievable stuffs in just a thread.

Crieff:


Calm down. You come across as aggresive.
I think I get your drift though. Burial is different from entombment.
Burial connotes putting something under and covering up the thing, in this case, digging a hole in the ground and covering it up with sand. It explains the idiom to be six feet below.
A tomb on the other hand by construction is like a room/chamber to keep dead people.
Essentially, someone buried is under the earth while someone entombed is above/on earth, in a matter of speaking.
Lazarus was kept in a tomb but bound with grave cloths/ribbon if you like, Jesus was kept in a tomb too but covered with a white cloth but the Jews made sure the tomb was sealed tight with a stone that will prolly take a quarter of a legion or more to roll away while some centurion still kept watch over the tomb.
The significance of this difference between burial and entombment is that while a supposedly dead person should come alive, he cannot escape from the six feet of earth that has covered him, while someone entombed if not put in a casket can still survive if he for any reason comes back to life after allegedly pronounced dead.
Don't know the reason why muslims bury them rightt away...could wait a couple of days and in high profile cases such as Audu's, an autopsy carried out and then the dead man buried.
That should still be in order.

My thoughts.

Four Orijins for you.

vedaxcool:


Is there any suspicion someone murdered him? Abeg if you no get work this morning go climb palm tree and fetch palmwine

You're underinformed bro, Audu's death is close to a murder if not murder.

Chubhie:
I've read unbelievable stuffs in just a thread.

Aisha and her father Abu Bakr murdered and hastily buried Mohammed to conceal signs of poisoning.

Hero10001:

You're underinformed bro, Audu's death is close to a murder if not murder.

Tinubu don go phuck up now

vedaxcool:


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You were born a foo.l and you would most assuredly die as one! Desist from quoting me since your form of reasoning lack intelligence or wisdom

Truth hurts, don't it?

RevDesmondJuju:

Tinubu don go phuck up now

DesmondJuju wen will u make use of ur other monika watching