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Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by MrEverest(m): 12:13pm On Dec 03, 2015
Eurobomber @Intrepid 101. You people keep making the same mistake while expecting different outcome. It is an insult when people like you make it seem as if Igbo president is a priviledge, no it is not! For starters, Igbos have been oppressed & harrassed through conspiracy by other Nigerians & I will give you very good examples (1) In 1999, before the transition to democracy, Alex Ekwueme led others known as G34 to form what is today PDP, Ekwueme became a frontline candidate & was popular but on the eve of the Jos primaries, the military top brass conspired against him & manipulated the entire process to enable Obasanjo emerge victorious & based on a pre-conceived agenda, two yorubas emerged as main contenders. (2) SE has the least number of states, LGA & Senatorial zones which even makes the case worse to acheive 2/3 requirement & even motions for debate in the house. (3) based on the civil war hang-over, Buhari truncated the Shagari regime when it was apparent that Ekwueme was going to succeed him.

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by AtlanticBreeze: 12:21pm On Dec 03, 2015
chichi234:
Mumu. The next president after Buhari is Fashola. And NO biafra.
Igbos can not be trusted with power and leadership
keep dreaming, its allowed. fashola can only be president of yorubaland republic

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by flamingREED(m): 12:30pm On Dec 03, 2015
freshvine:
Kumuyi should understand that there's no more souls to be harvested in the South East. He should go to North West of North East for his crusades
They're multitude of souls to be saved over there.
I've known that whenever there 're communal conflicts, wars or strife, the man at the receiving end is Christ Jesus. Gladly, I spent some time in retaliatory supplication to frustrate, undo and eradicate this hidden motive this morning. Anger, hate, violence and vengeful spirits *rebound and give no place to the gospel. Your comment, my fine fellow, is a shocking blasphemy. For none of us, at anytime, or for any reason or feeling, have the right to except a people from God's gospel; we can neither exclude saints nor sinners from the gospel. I know Nnamdi Kanu, whether in pretext or indeed -to achieve whatever aim he deemed too mandatory or inevitable, said many incongruous things about Kumuyi, Christ and the gospel (I pray God forgive Kanu). Christ died for all, and sin makes US ALL beneficiaries of His death, cutting across all race, or kingdoms, or commonwealth, or people because ALL HAVE SINNED. To misconstrue this eternal truth, or misapply it, or partly truncate it's scope, is a fatal swipe taken at the trinity. And God will not let His enemies go unpunished. Bearing in mind therefore, on one hand, that God has expanded His kingdom to include both the old Hebrew kingdom of God and the new universal kingdom of God, in all equality, and talking about Kumuyi's stances on the other, I want to admonish us that it's never in the place of a minister to meddle with the affair-running of this world. Do God's ministers no wrong. They are -if sincere - first, citizens of heaven and second, and importantly, STRANGERS on earth. They only might pray for the will of God to be done in the earth, and they dare not challenge the constituted authority God has set over them. They believe God rules even the uttermost isles and gives the earth to the government of whom He pleases( Daniel 4:25) They can only pray THAT THE WILL OF GOD BE DONE and can't stop believing effectively that THE HEAVENS DO RULE

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by MrEverest(m): 12:33pm On Dec 03, 2015
shachris02:


Nobody is going to hand over power on a platter for you, ,man. You have to work for it. And with what you guys are doing, you are setting that vision back a hundred years.
Persnally I am not interested in Igbo presidency simply because it will not solve any problem. The fate of any Igboman That becomes president would be worse than that of GEJ, he will have to watch his back, always be at the risk of impeachment & ultimately be at the mercy of the north! The moment he does anything for the East, they will accuse him of being sectional. Nigeria is a false nation founded on lies & injustice to perenially favour the North & subjugate the East & the patience of the Igbos has been stretched to the limit & they have seen the hopelessness of their fate in Nigeria. Igbo presidency cannot stop the Biafra agitation, the only solution is the restructuring of the country & give all parts equal rights & previledges & secondly the application of true federalism.

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by Nobody: 12:52pm On Dec 03, 2015
When will you understand that power is not handed over to anybody?? it is earned.

I once gave you an instance with Barrack Obama.
EUROBOMBER:


Some of them don't like to be reasonable. every right-thinking person knows that after Buhari presidential power should move to the South East and the interest of national stability.

Why some of these people pretend about this is what i cannot understand. embarassed

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by armadeo(m): 1:09pm On Dec 03, 2015
Eurobomber.


If power rotation was in place of course it should go to the SE. But I can assure you that the igbo man would shoot himself in the foot even if it is zoned to them. They are not united.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by Nobody: 1:36pm On Dec 03, 2015
chichi234:
Mumu. The next president after Buhari is Fashola. And NO biafra.
Igbos can not be trusted with power and leadership
Yanyanyanyan see your mouth, you re not even ashamed to spew out this shit..

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by oilsuop: 1:50pm On Dec 03, 2015
Millerz:
When will you understand that power is not handed over to anybody?? it is earned.

I once gave you an instance with Barrack Obama.
Obama is an American which is a white country Nigeria is a black nation different is clear sad
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by shachris02: 1:54pm On Dec 03, 2015
oilsuop:
Obama is an American which is a white country Nigeria is a black nation different is clear sad

this igbo boy forming Yoruba.

Nwanne ele way?
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by Arnoldo(m): 2:40pm On Dec 03, 2015
chichi234:
Mumu. The next president after Buhari is Fashola. And NO biafra.
Igbos can not be trusted with power and leadership
igbos cnt be trusted with power and u dnt want them to go? why is dat? if there cant be equal treatment of all tribes,hw then dn u want oneness in 9ja

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by Nobody: 2:46pm On Dec 03, 2015
NAWA FOR THIS OP ooo., na watin concern pastor kumuyi with your ipob struggle. the fact say crusade no hold come mean say na bcoz hm dey pray 4 naija unity..?
kai,wallai seun try for some set of people 4 diz world o. na only 4 nairaland una go dey talk rubbish. nna gerrarohia biko no.!! nkapi.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by Yanks101: 3:15pm On Dec 03, 2015
chichi234:
Mumu. The next president after Buhari is Fashola. And NO biafra.
Igbos can not be trusted with power and leadership
That is why Nigeria is highly developed and prosperous.
Since almajiris, paedophiles and brown roof dwellers are the ones entrusted with power.
In the next 1000 years, your country would remain a shitthole and a disgrace to every single nation of the world, since bitter truth, vibrant change and realism is alien to your kind.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by INCREDIBLEGUY: 3:40pm On Dec 03, 2015
EternalTruths:
Sometime ago, kumuyi's crusade was frustrated in the East which is a die hard Christian region

Investigation revealed that the anger behind the action is Kunuyi's believe in One Nigeria which the people reject because of the oppression they experience in Nigeria.

I want those close to Kumuyi to give him this message and document it


" Sir, may God give you extra 50years to see what becomes of Nigeria.

If after Buhari, Nigeria do not hand over power to Igbos and restructure Nigeria along the line of true federalism, the country will collapse if you keep mute about the injustice.

Your prayers will be worthless if you fail to publicly denounce the oppression.

Sir God has dissolved marriages approved by him because one party constantly violates the oath of marriage.

Sir Choose wisely the your path because you will see the end of Nigeria if you keep mute when Nigeria violates the oath of Union preached.


Thank you and remain blessed kiss "



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I just pray you leave to see Nigeria strong and healthy again beside what has pastor kumuyi got to do with north south and east he his going everywhere preaching the good news, he has noting to do with politics , God bless you sir
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by itstpia8: 3:43pm On Dec 03, 2015
This marriage issue seems to be a sore point between certain nlers and DLBC.

why?


as per the political angle, why is there one?
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by pojophilius(m): 5:07pm On Dec 03, 2015
all dis southeast,northwest thn na shii,,shey jona con be hausa ni,,,na igbo him sef be jawe,,afterall,na him dem mumu vote for during election,,,if na jonathan na naija president,dem no fit dey talk all dis shii......
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by EternalTruths: 9:37pm On Dec 03, 2015
INCREDIBLEGUY:
I just pray you leave to see Nigeria strong and healthy again beside what has pastor kumuyi got to do with north south and east he his going everywhere preaching the good news, he has noting to do with politics , God bless you sir


Pastor Kumuyi preaches that Nigeria can't divide

Never have I heard him caution Nigerians over ethno religious injustice

If Pastor Kumuyi is not ready to preach against injustice, he should keep his Nigeria can't divide sermons to himself alone. cool
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by EternalTruths: 9:40pm On Dec 03, 2015
flamingREED:
I've known that whenever there 're communal conflicts, wars or strife, the man at the receiving end is Christ Jesus. Gladly, I spent some time in retaliatory supplication to frustrate, undo and eradicate this hidden motive this morning. Anger, hate, violence and vengeful spirits *rebound and give no place to the gospel. Your comment, my fine fellow, is a shocking blasphemy. For none of us, at anytime, or for any reason or feeling, have the right to except a people from God's gospel; we can neither exclude saints nor sinners from the gospel. I know Nnamdi Kanu, whether in pretext or indeed -to achieve whatever aim he deemed too mandatory or inevitable, said many incongruous things about Kumuyi, Christ and the gospel (I pray God forgive Kanu). Christ died for all, and sin makes US ALL beneficiaries of His death, cutting across all race, or kingdoms, or commonwealth, or people because ALL HAVE SINNED. To misconstrue this eternal truth, or misapply it, or partly truncate it's scope, is a fatal swipe taken at the trinity. And God will not let His enemies go unpunished. Bearing in mind therefore, on one hand, that God has expanded His kingdom to include both the old Hebrew kingdom of God and the new universal kingdom of God, in all equality, and talking about Kumuyi's stances on the other, I want to admonish us that it's never in the place of a minister to meddle with the affair-running of this world. Do God's ministers no wrong. They are -if sincere - first, citizens of heaven and second, and importantly, STRANGERS on earth. They only might pray for the will of God to be done in the earth, and they dare not challenge the constituted authority God has set over them. They believe God rules even the uttermost isles and gives the earth to the government of whom He pleases( Daniel 4:25) They can only pray THAT THE WILL OF GOD BE DONE and can't stop believing effectively that THE HEAVENS DO RULE


Any pastor that champions One Nigeria but fails to speak out against ethno religious injustice is a hypocrite or insensitive minister cool
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by EternalTruths: 9:42pm On Dec 03, 2015
sammyomal:
NAWA FOR THIS OP ooo.,
na watin concern pastor kumuyi with your ipob struggle.
the fact say crusade no hold come mean say na bcoz hm dey pray 4 naija unity..?

kai,wallai seun try for some set of people 4 diz world o.
na only 4 nairaland una go dey talk rubbish.
nna gerrarohia biko no.!!
nkapi.

It concerns him because he keeps insisting on the indivisibility of Nigeria while ignoring the cries against ethno religious injustice. angry
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by flamingREED(m): 10:27pm On Dec 03, 2015
EternalTruths:



Any pastor that champions One Nigeria but fails to speak out against ethno religious injustice is a hypocrite or insensitive minister cool
Where did Paul, or Peter or Christ openly voice out against rulers' injustice? Why did Jesus have nothing to do with the Roman domination of Israel when he was in the world? And why did God not give the church any political will, but set us on the path of utmost tolerance of evil? We believe that God sets up kings, and not us. Paul argued that he can't judge the world but those of the household of faith while maintaining that it's GOD THAT JUDGES THOSE THAT ARE WITHOUT(1Cor. 5:13). You're IPOB and do Kanu's bidding; we're soldiers of Christ and please Him by not entangling ourselves with politics(ITim. 2:4). You seek for justice by all physical and political means, but our contention isn't with flash and blood(Eph. 6:12) and our weapons aren't man-made(1Cor. 10:3-5). In any case, we're more formidable. Politics and Christianity are two parallel lines. We will take all the humiliation, Christ will strengthen us. And if we endure till the end, he has promised us 1000 years reign in this same earth. I think it's more than enough compensation for all the marginalization of the people of God. However, understand that, whether you seek emancipation or a nation, if you die in the process, you can't get to heaven by your works. Only those freed from sins can see God. Are you? You had better play by the ethics of Christ and His holy spirit. Better save your soul for a greater glory than die for a momentary lot in a sin bedecked world. Let ministers be excused from deep politics. Let the watchdogs of government and those that hold public offices do the criticism. If they won't, neither shall we. All we can do is pray and remind them that: HE THAT RULES OVER MEN MUST BE JUST, RULING IN THE FEAR OF GOD(2Samuel 23:3)

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Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by flamingREED(m): 10:28pm On Dec 03, 2015
sammyomal:
NAWA FOR THIS OP ooo.,
na watin concern pastor kumuyi with your ipob struggle.
the fact say crusade no hold come mean say na bcoz hm dey pray 4 naija unity..?

kai,wallai seun try for some set of people 4 diz world o.
na only 4 nairaland una go dey talk rubbish.
nna gerrarohia biko no.!!
nkapi.
The crusade was held
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by EternalTruths: 10:31pm On Dec 03, 2015
flamingREED:
Where did Paul, or Peter or Christ openly voice out against rulers' injustice? Why did Jesus have nothing to do with the Roman domination of Israel when he was in the world? And why did God not give the church any political will, but set us on the path of utmost tolerance of evil? We believe that God sets up kings, and not us. Paul argued that he can't judge the world but those of the household of faith while maintaining that it's GOD THAT JUDGES THOSE THAT ARE WITHOUT(1Cor. 5:13). You're IPOB and do Kanu's bidding; we're soldiers of Christ and please Him by not entangling ourselves with politics(ITim. 2:4). You seek for justice by all physical and political means, but our contention isn't with flash and blood(Eph. 6:12) and our weapons aren't man-made(1Cor. 10:3-5). In any case, we're more formidable. Politics and Christianity are two parallel lines. We will take all the humiliation, Christ will strengthen us. And if we endure till the end, he has promised us 1000 years reign in this same earth. I think it's more than enough compensation for all the marginalization of the people of God. However, understand that, whether you seek emancipation or a nation, if you die in the process, you can't get to heaven by your works. Only those freed from sins can see God. Are you? You had better play by the ethics of Christ and His holy spirit. Better save your soul for a greater glory than die for a momentary lot in a sin bedecked world. Let ministers be excused from deep politics. Let the watchdogs of government and those that hold public offices do the criticism. If they won't, neither shall we. All we can do is pray and remind them that: HE THAT RULES OVER MEN MUST BE JUST, RULING IN THE FEAR OF GOD(2Samuel 23:3)


If pastor kumuyi insist on One Nigeria then he must condemn ethno religious injustice


If he is not ready to do so, he should focus on preaching and avoid political views cool
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by flamingREED(m): 10:31pm On Dec 03, 2015
flamingREED:
Where did Paul, or Peter or Christ openly voice out against rulers' injustice? Why did Jesus have nothing to do with the Roman domination of Israel when he was in the world? And why did God not give the church any political will, but set us on the path of utmost tolerance of evil? We believe that God sets up kings, and not us. Paul argued that he can't judge the world but those of the household of faith while maintaining that it's GOD THAT JUDGES THOSE THAT ARE WITHOUT(1Cor. 5:13). You're IPOB and do Kanu's bidding; we're soldiers of Christ and please Him by not entangling ourselves with politics(ITim. 2:4). You seek for justice by all physical and political means, but our contention isn't with flesh and blood(Eph. 6:12) and our weapons aren't man-made(1Cor. 10:3-5). In any case, we're more formidable. Politics and Christianity are two parallel lines. We will take all the humiliation, Christ will strengthen us. And if we endure till the end, he has promised us 1000 years reign in this same earth. I think it's more than enough compensation for all the marginalization of the people of God. However, understand that, whether you seek emancipation or a nation, if you die in the process, you can't get to heaven by your struggle. Only those freed from sins can see God. Are you? You had better play by the ethics of Christ and His holy spirit. Better save your soul for a greater glory than die for a momentary lot in a sin bedecked world. Let ministers be excused from deep politics. Let the watchdogs of government and those that hold public offices do the criticism. If they won't, neither shall we. All we can do is pray and remind them that: HE THAT RULES OVER MEN MUST BE JUST, RULING IN THE FEAR OF GOD(2Samuel 23:3)
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by flamingREED(m): 10:48pm On Dec 03, 2015
EternalTruths:



If pastor kumuyi insist on One Nigeria then he must condemn ethno religious injustice


If he is not ready to do so, he should focus on preaching and avoid political views cool
What is his political view? To say that Buhari's election is of God is to agree with God that He upholds and deposes kings. And when last did Kumuyi say Nigeria is indivisible? Can you tell? Even if it looks incredible that Nigeria must be one, what if he spoke the temporary will of God then? What if he said it when it wasn't due time for division? More so, how do you know Nigeria shouldn't be one still? Are you certain that it's time for her dissolution? Why must the Christian believe you more than a mighty servant of God whose ministry has humbled man and science and technology by manifold signs and wonders? Did God speak to you? Can you cure Ebola, cancer or AIDS; reinstate lost organs and bodily parts, or can you raise the dead? Fear God, dear. Don't easily engage the servants of God in showdowns. It could cost you more than you can atone for. Tread cautiously. This is my last post to you on this matter. Christ is my trusty Shield. He will still win.._____~~~~tho they take our lives; goods, honours, our wives!; yet is their profit small; THESE THINGS SHALL VANISH ALL!!!
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by EternalTruths: 10:53pm On Dec 03, 2015
flamingREED:
What is his political view? To say that Buhari's election is of God is to agree with God that He upholds and deposes kings. And when last did Kumuyi say Nigeria is indivisible? Can you tell? Even if it looks incredible that Nigeria must be one, what if he spoke the temporary will of God then? What if he said it when it wasn't due time for division? More so, how do you know Nigeria shouldn't be one still? Are you certain that it's time for her dissolution? Why must the Christian believe you more than a mighty servant of God whose ministry has humbled man and science and technology by manifold signs and wonders? Did God speak to you? Can you cure Ebola, cancer or AIDS; reinstate lost organs and bodily parts, or can you raise the dead? Fear God, dear. Don't easily engage the servants of God in showdowns. It could cost you more than you can atone for. Tread cautiously. This is my last post to you on this matter. Christ is my trusty Shield. He will still win.._____~~~~tho they take our lives; goods, honours, our wives!; yet is their profit small; THESE THINGS SHALL VANISH ALL!!!


You talk too much which proves you haven't known God's mind through prayer


Go and pray to understand what the Spirit is saying


If you want One Nigeria then you must condemn ethno religious injustice

Failure to do so will see the end of Nigeria cool
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by biafranqueen: 3:50am On Dec 04, 2015
We need to be more strategic and less emotional when it comes to getting what we want, end of story!
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by Dbboy(m): 4:51am On Dec 04, 2015
Zoharariel:
If after Buhari, Nigeria do not hand over power to Igbos and restructure Nigeria along the line of true federalism, the country will collapse if you keep mute about the injustice.

Who tha f.uck is this asshole? What injustice? Igbo will never ever be President again in Nigeria since they squanderered their God-given opportunity by drawing the first blood in the 1966 coup d'état where Nzeogwu’s Igbo squad killed the premier of the Northern and Western regions but of course left the Igbo Eastern premiere alive.

This, my friend, is the price your entire generation will pay for your greed and insatiable lust for power. I have no problem with Nigeria going up in flames, afterall WW3 is just around the corner but you incorrigle Igbo dolts will be decimated in droves like the f.ucking cockroaches that you are.


Until then we await your decimation, what I promise you it would be fight to the finish, I hope you got the balls for it.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by mikkyjagga1(m): 5:04am On Dec 04, 2015
One million likes for u my brother it's obvious this igbo guys shouting and clamoring for violence lack common sense!
They should go and learn how to strategies from the yorubas! Aand mind u, am Delta ibo!
Intrepid01:
This @Op is soo deluded.......

This mindset is the major problem with you people...POWER is never handed to any tribe in Nigeria. It is claimed by the tribe through intelligence, hard work and STRATEGIC ALLIANCE. HAUSAs and YORUBAs have presided over this Country based on those things since 1999. IBOs will only provide a president when they learn how to do those things I stated. The South-Southerners are still pained about GEJ but they have learnt to let-go and be seen as NIGERIANs whose ultimate aim is the success of Nigeria. which will portray them well in the eyes of other regions. After June 12 1993, Yorubas were pained but they fought it as if it was a fight for democracy. Immediately after the whole thing, Yorubas moved on and you don't see them crying foul about how Hausa's betrayed them.

See ehn, IBOs have qualified people to preside over this country as much as any other region in this Country, if not more. But believe you me, you can only get it thru alliance. YORUBAs spear-headed the APC alliance to facilitate a HAUSA president because they have started thinking of how to produce another President after OBJ, which definitely will be thru alliance. Those that are intelligent are aware already and that's why TINUBU is a night-mare to them.

Nigerian politics is so interesting and requires intelligence, believe me. Those guys up there are so intelligent. IBOs need to calm down, forget about the last civil war, pretend as if they have forgotten it in order to get what they want. When an IBO becomes the President, then they can force Nigeria to re-address the unaddressed issues of BIAFRA. But if you think thru threats and violence you can get it, my brother that is a tall dream. Don't be surprised if even the SS produces another President before IBOs. See the way the SS leaders have tactfully dissociated from the Biafra agitation, pretended as if they were not pained by Jonathan's exit.

My Brother the first rule of any game is to study the rule of the game itself.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi And The Break Up Of Nigeria by EternalTruths: 6:51pm On Dec 04, 2015
mikkyjagga1:
One million likes for u my brother it's obvious this igbo guys shouting and clamoring for violence lack common sense!
They should go and learn how to strategies from the yorubas! Aand mind u, am Delta ibo!


Did Britain wage a war against Scotland ? No


Let UN Referendum decide the fate of Nigeria cool

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