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FG Ends Kerosene Subsidy, To Sell For N83 Per Litre / Fuel Subsidy To Go Next Year. FG To Sell Petrol At 97 / National Assembly Increases Fuel Subsidy To N521bn (2) (3) (4)

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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by looseweight: 4:20pm On Jan 31, 2016
Lolz
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by kennyman2000(m): 4:20pm On Jan 31, 2016
Lol..
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by qualityovenbake(m): 4:20pm On Jan 31, 2016
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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by Kangol99(m): 4:20pm On Jan 31, 2016
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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by frankyfresh(m): 4:20pm On Jan 31, 2016
I no read am at all but hmmmm nigeria
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by Pidggin(f): 4:22pm On Jan 31, 2016
APC=Scam!

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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by anonimi: 4:26pm On Jan 31, 2016
APC is increasingly showing itself to be a SCAM to even its own supporters.
The Confused One is showing that his packaging as an incorruptible man of integrity was & is a FRAUD.
How can they make us, the citizens PAY their government fuel subsidy?
How did we end up with these CONMEN and 419ers?
How


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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by viktor01(m): 4:28pm On Jan 31, 2016
Who else didn't read the epistle?
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by cutetopsey(f): 4:33pm On Jan 31, 2016
Am optimistic that before the end of Buhari adminstration, the price of PMS will come down to #3.00 since Nigeria is the biggest producer of oil in Africa and yet it was gathered that the same fuel that sells for N86.50 per litre (without payment of subsidy) in Nigeria goes for between N4 and N5 in Venezuela and N22 in Libya......


Therefore, we couldn't expect less from our government....and we are not asking for too much......we must sell below other countries since we are the giant of Africa. grin


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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by Youngzedd(m): 4:33pm On Jan 31, 2016
Observant:
No more N45 for PMS, wasn't that the estimate of this administration? Did they suddenly forget the mathematics.
From my calculation the government is making North of N15 per litre on the current price with the subsidy now totally gone.

Too sad the 15 million useful idiotic walking dead that brought us to this junction remain oblivious whilst roaming in search of the remnant of GEJ of attack.




Before you blame the current administration go check the cost of crude and the cost of refining a barrel first.

Now, how many working refineries do the country have?

Because this things are imported with USD.


Blame the administration that promised us refineries and diverted the funds when subsidy was partially removed.
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by anonimi: 4:39pm On Jan 31, 2016
cutetopsey:
Am optimistic that before the end of Buhari adminstration, the price of PMS will come down to #3.00 since Nigeria is the biggest producer of oil in Africa and yet it was gathered that the same fuel that sells for N86.50 per litre (without payment of subsidy) in Nigeria goes for between N4 and N5 in Venezuela and N22 in Libya.......



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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by anonimi: 4:42pm On Jan 31, 2016
Youngzedd:
Before you blame the current administration go check the cost of crude and the cost of refining a barrel first.

Now, how many working refineries do the country have?

Because this things are imported with USD.

Blame the administration that promised us refineries and diverted the funds when subsidy was partially removed.

Does anyone know what can make a person justify suffering inflicted on him by those who promised to take care of him?



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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by Nobody: 4:43pm On Jan 31, 2016
Pidggin:
I will make fuel N45/ltr - PMB
ask Tom David West

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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by Youngzedd(m): 4:46pm On Jan 31, 2016
anonimi:


Does anyone know what can make a person justify suffering inflicted on him by those who promised to take care of him?



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Hence there's life, there's hope. Nigeria is under cleansing.
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by fm7070: 4:58pm On Jan 31, 2016
This government is scam and hypocrisy of the highest order.
They used their mischievous propaganda and lies to destroy the last administration
and deceive people into voting them into power.
Posterity will judge.

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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by creflo22: 5:00pm On Jan 31, 2016
fm7070:
This government is scam and hypocrisy of the highest order.
They used their mischievous propaganda and lies to destroy the last administration
and deceive people into voting them into power.
Posterity will judge.
so we should bring back the last govt abi. Wait 8 years we go bring them back. Happy waiting!
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by emmykk(m): 5:00pm On Jan 31, 2016
Mario1989:
If that N3.83 profit per litre will be used for the benefit of the masses, then its allowed...we dont want to hear any sure-P fraud again o... PMB

sure-P is not a Fraud.

The big fraud is that buhari currently have no plan for the oil and gas manegement.

There is a claimed removal of subsidy now and you are not feeling it,when the price of oil increase again in future $100 per barrel you will knon we have a gambling govt without plans.

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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by weyabblog: 5:07pm On Jan 31, 2016
efilefun:
Sure-P under BUHARI laiye!!! I could remember PTF under Buhari, everybody felt the goodies of that project, only people who are blind from the truth will dispute this. There are some schools still having PTF buildings, I could remember getting free textbooks and co from PTF, tell me how many people felt the effect of sure -P?? It was just another avenue to siphone public funds.
at the end 2.1 billion dollars waka from ptf money. na God go judge u nd buhari

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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by ndubest111(m): 5:10pm On Jan 31, 2016
jolamos01:
WITH the newly adopted modulation model for the pricing of petroleum products nationwide, government has ‘stylishly’ deregulated the downstream sector.

In the new pricing model, Premium Motor Spirit (PMS), otherwise known as petrol, is sold at N86.50, kerosene at N83 and diesel at 74.99 per litre at filling stations.

From all indications, government is believed to be making a profit of N3.83 per litre of PMS, but the Petroleum Products Pricing Regulatory Agency (PPPRA) regard what is perceived as profit as ‘over-recovery.’

Over the years, government has been selling the idea of fuel subsidy removal to Nigerians, communicating how immensely beneficial the measure would be for everyone.

It argued that savings from not paying subsidy could be channeled to the provision and improvement of infrastructure such as roads, schools and hospitals, among others.

In the last few years, subsidy debate has polarised the country. Envisioned as a people-oriented policy to help reduce the price of fuel for Nigerians, it has become a cash cow for the cabal involved in PMS importation.

Watchers of events in the petroleum sector believe that with the plummeting price of crude globally, the commodity ought to have gone below the recent pump price released by the price regulatory body, the PPPRA.

They said from the new pricing template, government has gone into the petroleum business with the sole aim of profit making. And instead of paying subsidy on the commodity, it is angling to make marginal profit, as the Estimated Open Market Price (EOMP) for the commodity is lower than the pump price.

This is even more worrisome, when the price template is compared to prices in fellow oil-producing countries. Nigeria is the biggest producer of oil in Africa, yet it was gathered that the same fuel that sells for N86.50 per litre (without payment of subsidy) in Nigeria goes for between N4 and N5 in Venezuela and N22 in Libya.

According to the template, government would be making about N3.83 profit on every one litre of the product. The PPPRA template states that that the EOMP of petrol is N82.67 with a retail price of N86.50 at filling stations nationwide.

The EOMP is the total landing cost of PMS and sub-total margins, including transporter’s cost, dealer charges, bridging fund, administrative charges and a handful of other variables to make it the true cost of the product.

By the end of 2014, the official pricing template for petrol by PPPRA indicated that government was paying N6.45 per litre as subsidy, as the EOMP then was N94.45, which was N6.45 higher than the pump price of N87 per litre.

The difference between the EOMP and the retail price was what the government was paying as subsidy. This difference has now been removed with the new template, and government is now set to make profit instead of using public resources to pay for what has not been beneficial to majority of Nigerians.

Speaking on the development, Senator Lee Maeba said the Minister of Petroleum is still shy to announce a complete deregulation of petroleum products. The Senator, who represented Rivers South East in the Senate and initiated the Petroleum Industry Bill (PIB), told The Guardian that the type of modular prices system the Minister introduced cannot guarantee adequate pricing system of petroleum products.

Said he: “the Federal Government is shy to announce full deregulation and without deregulation, the price is still what the minister feels. He fixes it, and you cannot get adequate pricing system without full deregulation. When you deregulate, everybody would sell how he/she produces. In fact, there would be so many refineries producing. But the situation now is that we are still in price fixing.

“Whether you remove subsidy or not, as long as you are doing price fixing, you are regulating. So, the government should not shy away from deregulation. Yes, I agree that the first set of product that comes out is diesel, while the second set is kerosene, petrol and the last is jet fuel, and it goes down. So, these products are cheaper from concentration. So, as long as the price fixing is still going on, and as long as you have PPPRA, they will continue to fix price. When you deregulate, you disband all these institutions, so the market forces now control prices. Until market forces control pricing, you cannot have adequate price.”

However, the organised labour believes that government is moving from petroleum subsidy to that of petroleum tax collection. The General Secretary of Nigeria Labour Congress, Dr. Peter Ozo-Eson, said the new pricing regime is fraught with ulterior motives.

Ozo-Eson told The Guardian that the process of arriving at the new template should have been transparently executed, with the consultation of the PPPRA board empowered by the laws of the land to fix price of petroleum products.

“We need to have a transparent re-working of the template. The PPPRA, by law, is saddled with that responsibility, but it also by law constituted in a stakeholders’ context, which stipulates that engagement takes place before a change in template is effected,” he said.

“PPPRA Executive Secretary, who is appointed by government and is directed either by the Minister or the President, cannot, on his own, fix the template. This is because the stakeholders have not met or reconvened for a long time. Therefore, there is a violation of the law by government. We need to be careful as a mono-economy country.

“The N3.83 government is making now would not make sense, unless the price remains excessively depressed over a long period of time. This cannot be the basis of building up the kind of fund that is needed. Though a modulation scheme in itself can have economic logic, the way we have it now is not sustainable, if prices were to go up,” he added.

The Chairman of Trade Union Congress in Rivers State, Chika Onuegbu, described the price of diesel as very exorbitant. He argued that government is making money from the diesel, because, “there is no how petrol will sell at N86.50 per litre without subsidy, and diesel will sell for N125 or N130, also without subsidy, which is a difference of about N40 per litre.

He said, “obviously, government has not reviewed the PPPRA template for diesel and AGO and that shows that a lot of money is being made from people. Government needs to review the template and bring it down. What is more painful is that these products are actually what most businesses use, as a result of poor power supply in the country. Companies use diesel to power their generators and that increases the cost of doing business in Nigeria. From hotels to hospitals, banks and telecom operators use diesel and that increases the cost they charge.”

Onuegbu asked, “How could government reduce the price of PMS this time, and did not do anything to the price of diesel? Government should reduce price of diesel to around N80 per litre, because without subsidy, it should not be more than N80 given the current price of crude oil.”

According to the labour leader, government should prove that it is concerned about people’s welfare and generating employment.

On his part, the Rivers State Chairman of Independent Petroleum Marketers Association of Nigeria (IPMAN), Sunny Nkpe, said the answer to the whole issue is deregulation following the dwindling of foreign exchange.

“We have all seen that government can no longer sustain this thing anymore. The main thing is deregulation. Price of diesel was deregulated long time ago. NNPC sells at N90 per litre, while pump price of diesel fluctuates between N120 to 130. What determines the prices is the loading from government depot. If you load from government depot at less than N75 and the man that buys from private depot for N95, they cannot sell at the same price. So, deregulation is the solution to encourage competition and level playing ground for everybody.”

The President, Association of Petroleum Explorers, Mr. Afe Mayowa, said government was collecting a form of tax from petroleum consumers. He agreed that government, through the differences in the landing cost and pump price, is collecting petroleum tax from consumers, but advised that the profit be ploughed back into the society for the benefit of Nigerians.

“Government is collecting tax with the price differential. But my advice is that the proceed should be invested in infrastructure such as roads, hospitals and schools for the education of the people, especially those in the North and Niger Delta, where illiteracy is prevalent. With education, there will be peace and security because people will not be deceived to imbibe false doctrine.

“The landing cost for PMS is supposed to be lower than the pump price, because government is now in business. The government has to make profit from what it is doing. The subsidy was a fraud, which has no justification. They should now allow market forces to determine the pump price of petroleum products. There is no way you can subsidise consumption, because that subsidy has no way of getting to the generality of the people. In my opinion, the difference is not too much. People paid as much as N150 per litre in Akure during the Christmas season,” he said.

He added, “We should invest in the youth, create opportunity for the people to be educated and exposed. It is a lot of money the government is going to make. So, they should put the money to fix power infrastructure. The money is being taken from us and should be spent on the people. It is a tax being collected from the people. They should, therefore, not share it. I don’t blame the people for not willing to pay such tax, because government had in the past disappointed them, such that the fund ended up in private pockets.”

Commenting on the disparity in the prices of PMS, diesel and kerosene, he said the forces of demand determine their prices, supply and preferences, which have to do with the population, technology, economics and usage.

In his view, the demand for kerosene and diesel is very low, so is the supply, hence the rise in price.

Commenting on the price enforcement for the product by the government, Mayowa said the regulation is necessary for marketers not to become “shylock.”

“In a market like this, you need some form of regulation (Cap) to prevent emergence of shylocks in the downstream sector. It is like what Lagos is doing to housing. Government says you cannot charge beyond certain limit. In this case, the government says you cannot sell PMS beyond N86.50, but you can sell below the price. If there is no such control, marketers will team up to fix pump price arbitrarily,” he said.

The Assistant General Manager, operations at the PPPRA, Victor Shidok, said the agency has created a template that is normal and would prevent frequent changes of pump price.

He said government is yet to make official pronouncement on subsidy, hence it would be incorrect to say it has discontinued subsidy payment or petroleum products.

He said, “The government has not made public pronouncement on petroleum subsidy. It has not said it has stopped. Under Petroleum Support Fund (PSF) guidelines, there is what we call under and over recovery scheme. None of them is a permanent state.

Source : http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2016/01/new-petrol-price-a-shift-from-subsidy-to-profit-making/
somebody shud pls summerize
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by fm7070: 5:17pm On Jan 31, 2016
creflo22:
so we should bring back the last govt abi. Wait 8 years we go bring them back. Happy waiting!

It is left to Nigerians to decide that. Are you saying that they should keep deceiving us and play on our intelligence and patience?
Almost everything they accused the last administration of is what they are doing right now.
Crude oil went down by 40% during GEJ's tenure, he reduced the price of petrol and removed part of the subsidy, APC and their wailers was crying fowl as if they had the interest of the masses at heart.
Crude oil price went down further by another 50% but the scam APC government reduced the price by 50kobo without any explanation to Nigerians. What could be more insulting than that?
No economic direction, no roadmap, rule of law is nowhere to be found, president has turned himself to the judge.
in 2019, Nigerians will decide what they want. I just hope and pray that we will still have one Nigeria by then.

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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by Nobody: 5:20pm On Jan 31, 2016
what the author has failed to observe is that we still import fuel. Whatever gain from the drop in the price of crude has been swallowed by the fall in the Naira
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by manutdadex(m): 5:24pm On Jan 31, 2016
Boscojugunu:
yes ooo. I used the ptf textbooks and not books throughout my secondary school days. Surep is fraud
d sure p maternal health centers are also frauds? Just becos sure p no share note books now na fraud?? Almost all remote communities have health center and still yet sure p na fraud

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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by anonimi: 5:26pm On Jan 31, 2016
lookandlaff:
what the author has failed to observe is that we still import fuel. Whatever gain from the drop in the price of crude has been swallowed by the fall in the Naira


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I will make naira equal in value to dollar – Buhari
March 23, 2015


Owerri, March 23, 2015 (NAN) The All Progressives Congress (APC) presidential candidate, Gen. Muhammadu Buhari, on Monday said he would ensure that the Naira was equal to the dollar in value, if voted into office.

Buhari stated this during the South-East presidential rally of the party at Dan Anyima Stadium, Owerri.

It is sad that the value of the naira has dropped to more than N230 to one dollar; this does not speak well for the nation’s economy,’’ he said.


More from: http://dailypost.ng/2015/03/23/i-will-make-naira-equal-in-value-to-dollar-buhari/
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by Nobody: 5:31pm On Jan 31, 2016
Observant:
No more N45 for PMS, wasn't that the estimate of this administration? Did they suddenly forget the mathematics.
From my calculation the government is making North of N15 per litre on the current price with the subsidy now totally gone.

Too sad the 15 million useful idiotic walking dead that brought us to this junction remain oblivious whilst roaming in search of the remnant of GEJ of attack.





Ineffectual buffoon wailer!
Cry me a river!!
Buffoons are liable to die young!!!
Wailers are liable to die young!!!!
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by 2sex(m): 5:32pm On Jan 31, 2016
efilefun:
Sure-P under BUHARI laiye!!! I could remember PTF under Buhari, everybody felt the goodies of that project, only people who are blind from the truth will dispute this. There are some schools still having PTF buildings, I could remember getting free textbooks and co from PTF, tell me how many people felt the effect of sure -P?? It was just another avenue to siphone public funds.
One of my physics textbook had PTF on it.
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by Nobody: 5:39pm On Jan 31, 2016
anonimi:



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I will make naira equal in value to dollar – Buhari
March 23, 2015


Owerri, March 23, 2015 (NAN) The All Progressives Congress (APC) presidential candidate, Gen. Muhammadu Buhari, on Monday said he would ensure that the Naira was equal to the dollar in value, if voted into office.

Buhari stated this during the South-East presidential rally of the party at Dan Anyima Stadium, Owerri.

It is sad that the value of the naira has dropped to more than N230 to one dollar; this does not speak well for the nation’s economy,’’ he said.


More from: http://dailypost.ng/2015/03/23/i-will-make-naira-equal-in-value-to-dollar-buhari/


you either want to understand or you want to hurl abuses.

if you want to understand, then it is simple

1) International Oil prices have fallen to a point where the government no longer needs to subsidize petrol

2) however the falling price of Oil is a double edged sword which also has a consequence for our foreign exchange as lower crude receipts mean lower forex revenues, which puts pressure on the forex reserves and hence the Naira. All countries which are commodity producers have seen their currencies fall from Canada, to Russia, to Brazil to Venezuela etc etc.

3) since we import petrol and have to pay in forex, it means we are paying more in Naira.


In a laymans non-scientific way of putting it for the sake of those who are interested in actually understanding, fall in price of international crude take the cost of petrol at the pump to say N60 per liter, however fall in Naira has raised the cost of petrol back to about N85 such that net-net effect is Zeo. If we were not importing petrol this would be a different matter. The fcat that we import petrol in itself is responsible for significant pressure on the Naira as so much of our forex is used to finance fuel importation.
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by Mattew690(m): 5:41pm On Jan 31, 2016
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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by efilefun(m): 5:41pm On Jan 31, 2016
weyabblog:
at the end 2.1 billion dollars waka from ptf money. na God go judge u nd buhari
keep deceiving yourself, if you have any case take it to court or show us an evidence. No project in Nigeria had been felt by the masses like the ptf stuff
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by aspabay(m): 5:43pm On Jan 31, 2016
Mrfahaz:
waiting for the summarized version.....
Laziness is a cancker worm.

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Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by Akainzo(m): 5:47pm On Jan 31, 2016
Canada is an oil producing country, with numerous local refineries, the price of PMS is:

1. @CBN Rate of 200/$: 172/ltr
2. @Aboki Rate of 300/$: 258/ltr.


We must be doing something in Nigeria to sell it at 86.50/ltr.
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by djkirkoo2(m): 5:47pm On Jan 31, 2016
I dey sleep dey wait for the day wey APC go turn PMS price to N45. APC na real scam
Re: New Petrol Price: A Shift From Subsidy To Profit Making by Observant: 5:48pm On Jan 31, 2016
Youngzedd:


Before you blame the current administration go check the cost of crude and the cost of refining a barrel first.

Now, how many working refineries do the country have?

Because this things are imported with USD.


Blame the administration that promised us refineries and diverted the funds when subsidy was partially removed.

My brother I may quoted what ex Lagos state governor said. When crude was $60 barely 10months ago, the then administration remove N10, but he insisted it wasn't enough while David Tam west said it should sell for N45.

Please note that the situation you mentioned above was still obtainable even 2yrs ago.

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