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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Nobody: 10:07pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
Hidentity:I'm sorry if you look at that way. I am not advocating that rehabilitation programs for criminals is not good but I am of the opinion that such rehabilitation programs only concentrate on the individual criminals and thus, does not deter crime to a large extent. We cannot just inject huge amount of money into rehabilitation for individual offenders and yet still achieve minimal result in the decrease in crime rates. No matter how promising rehabilitation may seem to be, we must all know that past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior and from this perspective, it is reasonable to attempt to prevent crime by preventing known offenders from continuing their criminal behaviors by being sentenced to jail and as such serve as deterrence to future or potential offenders. We should all know and be convinced that rehabilitation is effective in reducing the criminal behavior of at least some offenders and not all offenders, not to talk of deterring a large number of people from criminal activities. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by binary007: 10:10pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
aysuccess99: Your point is the same as mine, you are just trying to turn things around, the prison is overpopulated and rehabilitation is encourged. Bottom line! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by MalcolmS7: 10:11pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
aysuccess99:. Good points but pls let me ask : Will you be in favour of jail terms after hearing the news of a person who was sentenced 3 days imprisonment for a crime worth the weight of the punishment(3 days) and died the second after being molested and beaten up by inmates |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Nobody: 10:13pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
binary007:I'm sorry, your question sounds funny to me. Why should the Chibok girls be jailed? Were they criminals or what offence can you point out that they commit? Those girls were just victims of circumstances and such be integrated back to the society. They need to be possibly rehabilitated into the society. It is expedient to point that we are considering whether jail terms serves as deterrent to crime or absolute rehabilitation a better option. If at all we should talk about the Chibok girls, what we should emphasize is that whether their abductors be put to jail when caught or the abductors should be rehabilitated. I put it to you, should the abductors of Chibok girls be jailed or rehabilitated when caught? 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Nobody: 10:23pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
MalcolmS7:Hmm. Good question I must say. I quote Lord Denning, 'in order for an act to be punishable as a crime it must be morally blame worthy.' The criminal died after the second day? Wow! It's just a pity that he died due to unexplainable circumstances. What the inmates did was quite bad and I believe that they will be punish for it but that still doesn't advocate that offenders should not be punished for their actions. We are rational beings and as such act most times under free will or choice. In as much his death was painful, that still does not mean that offenders should not be punished. Thank you. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by binary007: 10:25pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
aysuccess99: It is pretty difficult to enter a debate with someone with a different orientation as yours, where have you been? Haven't you been following national dalies? Some of the abducted chibok girls were allerged to have been converted into suicide bombers, obviously, terrorism is punishable under the law isn't it, so if you personally caught one of them on the act, arrest her and you have the power to decide her fate.(jail, death or rehabilitation) which would you sign up for? 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Nobody: 10:29pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
binary007:What caused the overpopulation? You said it was the sentencing of criminals to jail is what caused the overpopulation. And I said that the overpopulation is caused by the detaining of people who are still under trial. Anyway, cheers! |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Nobody: 10:33pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
binary007: You got me there, you should have expatiated better so as to get your point. Hmm, if they are caught, I guess they should be rehabilitated, they are doing this out of their own will. They are doing it according to the instruction they were given. So, it will not be right to punish them for crimes they committed under duress or compulsion. 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by binary007: 10:40pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
aysuccess99: Beautifully put, you just displayed the perfect attribute of a sportman.. Thumbs up man, the future of debate is secured with someone like you around. 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by eyhannu: 10:51pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
@aysuccess99 There are self-willed criminals and there criminals that are brain-washed into crimes. Rehab will definitely be the best option for a brain-washed criminal. State ur opinions clearly. 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Oluwasogo14: 11:17pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
This futarian get time sha and exam is fast approaching,instead of you to be jacking like jack at night class you are busy writing essay on nairaland and wasting your precious time with conventional university students. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Akby(m): 11:20pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
Oluwasogo14: Don't be myopic sir... |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Nobody: 11:28pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
eyhannu:Well stated ma. I'm not disputing this. All what I'm pointing out is that jail terms will serve as much deterrent to criminal activities. Rehabilitation is also good for brainwashed criminals so as to change their mindset and see that crime is bad and does not pay. Thanks. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Olusholadiamond(m): 11:37pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
Futarians in d house, straight to great hall now n start jerking ooo! Nairaland no get unit, just a good distraction... Na one of una alumnus be ds, futa exams don't smile, believe u know!!! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Oluwasogo14: 11:39pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
Akby:don't get my statement twisted bro.this is not a debate bro,there are better ways of doing things,get the skool informed and a get a good representative for every skool not a passer by. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Nobody: 11:44pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
I will like to come to a meaningful conclusion. I did not type this based on my stance in this debate, I'm saying this as a fellow human and a Nigerian. In as much as we want reduction in crime rate in our country, I don't think that there's any better way to deter criminal activities other than enhancing and combining strategies that will help achieve such. I believe that jail terms serves as deterrent for potential offenders, nevertheless, I also believe sentencing criminals to jail will not ensure effective reduction of crime rate. Rehabilitation is a good approach despite its cost and possibly risks because it helps to improve the life of offenders and make them productive individuals once again. If jail terms and rehabilitation programs and also incapacitation can be combined together. It will not only help the offenders, it will benefit the society and our nation. Investors will want to invest in our country because they believe it is safe. The issue now is that our criminal justice system need to be reformed. Deterring crime is not a minute task because deterrence helps to maintain law and order. Our government have to try to create rehabilitation centres for this purpose. Our prisons system needs to be checked and possible correction and reconstruction should be done. Issue of people awaiting trial that are being convicted should be looked at.. Training of rehabilitation officers should be considered, we should not just employ warders to guide our prisoners but the warders should be trained on how to effectively develop and improve the offenders. Professionalization should also be enhanced. We need more criminologists, social psychologists, clinical psychologists, behavioural psychologists so as to help orientate our people on crime and its effect. Nigeria is ours and only we can make it great. God bless Federal Republic of Nigeria. God bless Nairaland. God bless us all. I rest my case! |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Akby(m): 11:48pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
Oluwasogo14: No point trading words. This is an electronic platform designed to foster fair competition among the Nigerian students irrespective of your institution. It's called Nairaland interschool debate because it is hosted on here. Would love to see your idea at the national levels maybe someday 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Nobody: 11:48pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
@binary007. I really love your tenacity and I must be sincere with you, your essay was heart blowing. It was meant to appeal to our emotion. Nice one bro. Also, despite your forthcoming exams, you still staked out time to make your point known. You're really a great Futarian. I wish you all the best in your exams. Success is yours. It was really nice debating against you. I learnt a lot from you. @Thollulope, nice work bro. Kudos. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by aliandro(m): 11:51pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
Nice one binary007,You don't need to jack all day before those creamy and Eximious Cumulative GPA come knocking.......A semester starts from day one,not 2 or 3 weeks before exams!!!! |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by binary007: 11:54pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
Oluwasogo14: Do you always weight your words before talking or you just spill anything that comes into you mind? And by the way, who told you that you can address me the way you did in post above, I signed up for this out of my free will, how is that your issue? By the way, I am in my finals with a beautiful academic standing, I guess I have worked for to earn this little time I am spending here building my grammatical structure and langauge strenght. If all you care about in your undergraduate years is to always read for futa exam without self development and discovery, so be it, Good luck finding purpose after your undergraduate years. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Oluwasogo14: 12:29am On Feb 07, 2016 |
binary007:wow!! interesting....last I checked,i never mentioned your name,what the Bleep is my business about how you managed your time or what grade you worked for,that's none of my business,i f you r getting good grade bro,am getting it too. hey!! what is my business with your life,if you are getting good grades am getting it too,d last time I checked I never mention or quote you,if you like you can even defer ur admission to study english language else where. today is sunday bro,i don't do sunday argument.....*nd pls don't ever get me involved in your stup*d argument. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Fynestboi: 6:56am On Feb 07, 2016 |
Score for thollolope Presentation: 2 Logic of argument: 3 Strength of facts: 3 Persuasiveness: 2 Demonstration of Knowledge & concentration on subject: 2 Rebuttal and response: 3 Total= 15. Score for aysuccess99 Presentation: 4 Logic of argument: 3 Strength of facts: 4 Persuasiveness: 4 Demonstration of Knowledge & concentration on subject: 4 Rebuttal and response: 3 Total= 22. Score for binary007 Presentation: 3 Logic of argument: 4 Strength of facts: 4 Persuasiveness: 3 Demonstration of Knowledge & concentration on subject: 3 Rebuttal and response: 3 Total= 20. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Fynestboi: 6:59am On Feb 07, 2016 |
AYSUCCESS99 1. Presentation (opening, flow, paragraphs, grammar, punctuations, word count, closing,) 3/5 2. Logic of arguments 3/5 3. Strength of facts, examples, cases. 3/5 4. Persuasiveness 4/5 5. Demonstration of knowledge and understanding of the subject 3/5 6. Rebuttals and response to questions raised by the judges and the audience 2/5 18 . Presentation (opening, flow, paragraphs, grammar, punctuations, word count, closing,) 2/5 2. Logic of arguments 2/5 3. Strength of facts, examples, cases. 1/5 4. Persuasiveness 2/5 5. Demonstration of knowledge and understanding of the subject 2/5 6. Rebuttals and response to questions raised by the judges and the audience 1/5 10 BINARY OO7 1. Presentation (opening, flow, paragraphs, grammar, punctuations, word count, closing,) 4/5 2. Logic of arguments 4/5 3. Strength of facts, examples, cases. 3/5 4. Persuasiveness 3/5 5. Demonstration of knowledge and understanding of the subject 3/5 6. Rebuttals and response to questions raised by the judges and the audience 3/5 20 |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Thollulope(m): 7:00am On Feb 07, 2016 |
binary007: yh, they should be, to justify the live of victims lost and the pain they caused. I hav been offline,sorry i couldnt reply sooner |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Fynestboi: 7:31am On Feb 07, 2016 |
binary007: Lol. That's impossible why will I do such? It was the work of AntiSpambot.. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Fynestboi: 7:31am On Feb 07, 2016 |
binary007: Lol. That's impossible why will I do such? It was the work of AntiSpambot.. I unbanned you and unveil your post. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by SalimSojay(m): 9:14am On Feb 07, 2016 |
All kudos to Binary007 for sparing your invaluable time to represent FUTARIAN on this e-debate. I'm curiously awaiting the result from the panel of judges. KUDOS TO YOU once again! 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Fynestboi: 2:39pm On Feb 07, 2016 |
Judge: Debater: Thollolope School: University Of Ibadan Scores are as follows... Presentation: 1 (he spelt moderators wrongly should have been moderators not moderator) Logic of argument: 3 Strength of facts: 2 Persuasiveness: 2 Demonstration of Knowledge & concentration on subject: 2 Rebuttal and response: 4 Total= 14. Debater: Aysuccess99 School: University Of Ibadan Scores are as follows... Presentation: 3 Logic of argument: 3 Strength of facts: 3 Persuasiveness: 4 Demonstration of Knowledge & concentration on subject: 3 Rebuttal and response: 3 Total= 19. Debater: Binary007 School: FUTA Scores are as follows... Presentation: 4 Logic of argument: 3 Strength of facts: 4 Persuasiveness: 4 Demonstration of Knowledge & concentration on subject: 3 Rebuttal and response: 4 Total= 22. |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by adelawry(m): 7:21pm On Feb 07, 2016 |
Oluwasogo14: What do you mean by 'Conventional' University students? What makes FUTA unconventional ? |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Oluwasogo14: 12:00am On Feb 08, 2016 |
adelawry:you can't even differentiate btw a conventional and nonconventional university. what makes futa unconventional is the "Technology" Technology for self reliance is what distinguish us.Forget the Old glory and talk about reality,we are not on the same level. we offer B-tech not ordinary B.sc |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Futurecrown(m): 6:49am On Feb 08, 2016 |
Oluwasogo14:What is unique in your B-tech? hope you will get better placement in the labour market pass Bsc? You people just reason in a myopic way, and I think dictionary is your friend for clarification. cheers! |
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate (elimination Round)- Winner 5: UNIBADAN by Oluwasogo14: 8:15am On Feb 08, 2016 |
Futurecrown: if your presbyopic view can not show you there's no future in B.sc then I will advise you to be myopic. #B.tech is not a bandwagon. Try to have a B.tech and you will know the uniqueness. |
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