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Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by FILEBE(m): 12:25am On Feb 04, 2016
OYAY:
God bless the analysts above. The president knew we are consuming nation without producing much to commensurate what we are consuming hence his sceptism to devaluation. Therefore the 2016 budget should be religiously implemented using non oil sector revenue so as to encourage diversification that will lead to production; but in all we have to get our power sector right to be a productive nation which will drive industrialisation and reduce the cost of production then we can talk of devaluation if the naira does not appreciates naturally.

word! Why is the economist,Pat Utomi saying otherwise?
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by felalegend: 12:31am On Feb 04, 2016
Pesuzok:


In summary it means the official exchange rate will go higher to like 230 to $1. This will affect the price of products that are eligible for cbn official rate. Eg petrol

It could reach up to 1000 to $1 before stabilising. What it means is that $30,000 tokunbo cars will be sold above 30million Naira.
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by seaga: 12:32am On Feb 04, 2016
In a simple language and words, it would lead to unfavorable balance of trade.I totally support the refusal to devalue, but what is faulty is the procedure to checkmate black market operations. Now Nigeria is a developing nation and as such it's an import dependent nation, further devaluation will lead to leakages, we pay more naira for the same amount of quality and quantity of goods.Now we ve scarcity of dollars,due to massive reduction of foreign exchange earnings from crude oil sales and also the excess crude account (in dollars) saved from obasanjos regime was a good initiative, that could ve helped cushion the effect of low foreign exchange earnings.The said fund had been siphoned by the previous administration, which is appalling. Devaluation can only make things more complicated, as it would lead to scarcity and inflation would arise, because cost of production is high in most sectors of the industry, it can only make things worst than it is.As for the black market CBN needs to make exchange easily available for does in need at the bank rate, but only on foreign transaction basis for does that import goods not been or isn't produced in Nigeria. So no direct access to dollars to resell at the market, because only a fool or the political thieves would make use of black market, when one can pay in naira at bank at the stipulated rate and transfer to foreign partners.It will make the black market redundant

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Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by InvertedHammer: 12:42am On Feb 04, 2016
Ama80:
it sounds positive but why is d president hesitant?
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Because of inflation.

Will you be willing to pay N1,000 for a bottle of fanta?

Devaluation is good for countries that have big manufacturing base. For a jacked up country like Nigeria, devaluation is suicidal to the masses. No jobs, no infrastructures, no factories, and then abysmal purchasing power of the local currency...You get a train wreck waiting to happen.
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Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by ewosk: 12:58am On Feb 04, 2016
NO NEED FOR DEVALUATION AGAIN


ABI WE WANT $1= #500

The Naira is already weak lets just strategize how to improve local goods for utilization and export...

on that nothing yet just corruption hunt pls to whom it may concern tell the FEC to get to work on it
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by courage89(m): 12:59am On Feb 04, 2016
Devaluation of naira leads to high inflation. High inflation leads to high interest rate (based on the rationale to curtail inflation). High interest rates leads to high cost of manufacturing operations. High cost of manufacturing operations leads to closure of shops, due to inability of manufacturers to compete with imported goods. Closure of manufacturing shops leads to shifting of business strategy from manufacturing to importing. Hence the cycles continues, because first devaluation leads to the next, and next till no end in sight.

Say no to devaluation. Say no to high inflation. Say yes to low interest rate. Say yes to manufacturing economy.

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Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by tevinsolt: 1:03am On Feb 04, 2016
musicwriter:
Until African nations invest in mass science education, there's no other way to achieve development. This talks of devaluation, inflation, depression, recession, e.t.c will continue to be here until we embrace science.

Wealth doesn't come from importation, but from manufacturing. Dangote was an importer for years without getting so rich. Only when he began manufacturing all those things he used to import, like; cement, spaghetti, sugar, e.t.c did he become one of the richest man on earth.

At the heart of Dangote cement is a CHEMIST making better cement mixtures than others. Get it?.

Ban English and French in all African schools and usher in true education, and we'll be forever prosperous. The difference between development in first world countries and third world is SCIENCE. One know science, while one don't.

Africa cannot develop without investment in grassroots science.

I really can't understand people like, you are advocating for the increased study of science and at the same time asking for the ban of English and French?
so that you can Hausa, Yoruba or Igbo the lingua Franca? does that make any sense
if you're really into science you would know that socially and economically, knowing more language gives one a competitive edge in these areas.
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by Bheewhy(m): 2:04am On Feb 04, 2016
A nice write up for the devaluation but you can not dispute the fact that devaluation has worsen our case in Nigeria over the years because we are import dependant and what makes us different from zimbabwe,what are we producing in Nigeria apart from oil that can earn us more foreign income and look at state of oil price today,our external reserve is constantly depleting everyday(from$ 34bn in 2015 to $28bn in 2016). The more we devalue the more vulnerable and weak our country becomes zimbabwe did it but finally regretted it,they now make use of China yen due to their devalued useless dollar. Enough of paper economics let us be more realistic. #fix it don't devalue it
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by Nobody: 2:20am On Feb 04, 2016
Ama80:
it sounds positive but why is d president hesitant?
pls..... Tell me what we have to export..... Is it only oil we keep exporting. If a country is devaluing it's currency then it is necessary it has enough to export. Nigeria is still relying on oil. We need more of agricultural and mineral export too.
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by Nobody: 2:41am On Feb 04, 2016
Emmeritus:
@d one who explained devaluation:Do u knw what happened to Zimbabwe after their currency was devalued?

Zimbabwe was indirectly destroyed by the west through the means of sanctions,that also happened to Nigeria many years ago.

So blame Europe and America for Zimbabwes calamities,not devaluations.

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Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by IVORY2009(m): 3:49am On Feb 04, 2016
Emmeritus:
@d one who explained devaluation:Do u knw what happened to Zimbabwe after their currency was devalued?

they hv to adopt China's currency as an official means of doing business. grin "Zimbabwe"
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by asamaigho(m): 4:19am On Feb 04, 2016
14:


50% of it will be financed by foreign loan. and that loan will come with the conditions for nigeria, else it wont ne granted.
bros no over exegerrate am na,.....2trn cannot be 50% of 6trn na.
do ur maths,is 30percent.

and we really need dat loan to boost d capital expenditure,and wen dat is fully implemnted,it will shore up d economy.
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by Jessam: 4:22am On Feb 04, 2016
ggirl4real:
Everyone is talking about diversifying the economy yet no one is taking action....

Even when government approve funds for agricultural purposes, it will be by "man-know-man" basis to get the funds and the funds will even be diverted for other uses...

Which way Nigeria

So true, dear government of Nigeria forget your despot friends and help serious experienced farmers, with a little bit of government help small/medium businesses can turn into major employers, not only just tilling the land, but servicing the whole vertical chain. Production, distribution, packaging, retailing etc.

Jessam Cattle Ranch and Farms could be one of these agro businesses that can really be big with the right government assistance... we don't want to be saddled with high interest loans. Dear Mr President, Governor, minister of Agriculture why not come and see what Jessam Cattle Ranch and Farms does. Led by a highly educated team that have taken the challenge of hel[ping diversify Nigeria economy as well as provide quality protein sources to the nation

Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by unbeat007(m): 4:24am On Feb 04, 2016
2rutalk1:
Devaluation is a DELIBERATE reduction in the value of a country's currency in relation to the currencies of other countries. Devaluation is different from depreciation. Whereas devaluation is deliberate, depreciation of currency is caused by some macroeconomic factors.

However, Devaluation is used to discourage import and encourage export of goods and services across borders.

How do we achieve this? When a country's currency is devalued, foreign goods (imports) become so expensive because the value of the country's currency has been reduced making the value of the currency of her trading partner to go up. In this case, the foreign country will be enticed to import from Nigeria (for instance) and our hitherto importers will equally buy Nigerian made products because of high cost of foreign goods. This makes our balance of payment to become favourable.

In the long run (in future), the high rate of export from Nigeria and low import of foreign products by Alaba guys (lol) will increase the value of our naira.
does devaluation affect the prize of goods in a country where devaluation has taken place?
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by emeeco(m): 4:37am On Feb 04, 2016
Ama80:
it sounds positive but why is d president hesitant?
The president is hesitant to act because, we don't produce much, and import a lot.
Devaluation may be good if it leads to increase in the value of exports over imports. However given our low level of exportable products and short term productive capacity, it would be disastrous.
Cause such will lead to hyper inflation.
Also, the main reason people give to support devaluation is to reduce the pressure on forex reserves.
The argument is that you will now need more naira to to get dollars.
However, devaluation will not solve this problem, given the excess naira in the economy; nor would it reduce import to a reasonable level.
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by DedeNkem: 5:27am On Feb 04, 2016
Devaluation is a bad economic move. It's just like hiding a wound without treating it! Currency devaluation only makes a currency look a bit good on paper but not in value because it has the same value as before devaluation!

A healthy economy doesn't need to devaluate its currency. And that's what the government should focus on, to create a healthy economy! The economy influences currency value, that's a fact!

A good economy is what makes a strong currency! Unfortunately, our so-called "leaders" are very clueless and Nigerians don't give a f*uck about it. That's why this country is so messed up!

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Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by Nobody: 5:30am On Feb 04, 2016
drss:
because he doesn't understand economics. he's a cattle rearer by profession.
go and join ur mother in d kitchen since u can't contribute nor learn
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by Nobody: 5:40am On Feb 04, 2016
Montaque:
Everybody sees the good in a favour able balance of trade but will refrain from patronizing made. In Nigeria goods.
Hypocrisy.

Gbam! Na only you hammer the nail for d head.

To buttress your point. Nigeria government (executhief and legislooters) are thinking of buying BMW n Prado SUV as against Peugeot and Innoson motors.
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by Nsonaso(m): 5:59am On Feb 04, 2016
2rutalk1:
Devaluation is a DELIBERATE reduction in the value of a country's currency in relation to the currencies of other countries. Devaluation is different from depreciation. Whereas devaluation is deliberate, depreciation of currency is caused by some macroeconomic factors.

However, Devaluation is used to discourage import and encourage export of goods and services across borders.

How do we achieve this? When a country's currency is devalued, foreign goods (imports) become so expensive because the value of the country's currency has been reduced making the value of the currency of her trading partner to go up. In this case, the foreign country will be enticed to import from Nigeria (for instance) and our hitherto importers will equally buy Nigerian made products because of high cost of foreign goods. This makes our balance of payment to become favourable.

In the long run (in future), the high rate of export from Nigeria and low import of foreign products by Alaba guys (lol) will increase the value of our naira.
Well bro am not an economist but from what you have said, I don't see the need to devalue our beloved ₦ since the current hike of $ in black market nd bank (which I believe is the only source people get $ to import foreign goods) has also made our country men and women to seek for alternatives which is Patronizing our local goods (₦ made).

And you also say that if our believed ₦ is devalued that the other bad guys currency will rise and it will promote export lather than import.

I don't know if you're getting what am trying to say?

Can't it promote our export now since the only effect of the devaluation is rise in bad guys currency and lower in our believed ₦.

And as it stands now our beloved ₦ is already in comma while the bad guys currencies are flying (which I personally see as a devaluation in disguise).

So must we still devalue? Because that will result to the obituary of our beloved .

Did you get my point?

And sorry for my back English though, am not from England nor America.
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by Alaminz(m): 6:25am On Feb 04, 2016
what type of text book will u recommend me 2 read n have knowledge of such economc activities
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by effico(m): 6:28am On Feb 04, 2016
In a country like Nigeria where the Naira keep depreciating , devaluing it would only destabilise the macro economic goals that is to be achieved...
if the exchange rate was pegged, it would have been quite reasonable devaluing the naira. As an economist I don't support devaluation in this period
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by udumosam23(m): 6:44am On Feb 04, 2016
2rutalk1:
The President is hesitant because our economy may not actually reap the benefits of devaluation for now because we are import dependent economy - we have little or nothing to export to other countries. Therefore, even if our currency is devalued and import is discouraged as it is always the case, can our importers source the products locally? This will worsen the situation. What we need to do now is to diversify our economy, make the business/macroeconomic environment conducive, and ultimately, pursue import substitution strategy of industrialization. Import substitution strategy is a situation whereby goods and services that are hitherto imported from foreign countries are manufactured locally.



I agree with you. The govt should just see to security issue, stabilize power, and reduce tax rate. Then Nigeria will gradually fix on its own. We will be on automatic fix, if these things are put in place.
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by eibusayo(m): 6:49am On Feb 04, 2016
suyamasta:
Devaluation will cripple Nigerias economy at this point in time, the rate of inflation will go balistic considering that we are import dependent

It's risky for our economy now because the rate of many business transaction that's dependent on exchange rate is on the increase. Everything now that we buy in the market is do you know the exchange rate of dollar to naira now
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by nnachidav: 6:49am On Feb 04, 2016
Your google is outdated
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by philocheho: 6:57am On Feb 04, 2016
Sugarhugs:

The $1/N198 is the official exchange exchange rate which can be regulated by the CBN. The $1/N305 is the parallel market(black market) rate. Which tells u the real status of exchange rate in d economy... the black market always react to the forces of demand and supply without regulation. The official market also react to the forces of demand and supply, but it can be manipulated(regulated).

I guess this explains why google says exchange rate of dollars to naira is 198, CU's I have been wondering how come its 300+ here and google saying 198.
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by Prince29(m): 7:06am On Feb 04, 2016
because u dnt understand d economic and devaluation.when av little 2 export nd u devaluate dat means naija is finish.
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by klimson: 7:17am On Feb 04, 2016
Ama80:
it sounds positive but why is d president hesitant?
Devaluation, in my opinion is not good for this country, at least not now. This was done before, so what did we achieve with it. Countries that benefit from devaluation are those that have considerable export products. So, what do we produce? How much of it do we export? How much do we earn from the foreign exchange?
Nigeria is an import dependent country. We cant do without it. That you devalued the naira, won't stop Bala Mohammed's son from buying 800m car. That you devalued naira won't stop Nigerias craze for foreign products. Afterall, our money bags have the money, and the poor can only suffer more. Devaluation could work in an economy with disciplined regulation. Nigeria should first boost export products. What of those products we can't but import from other countries? There are many of them of course! Nigerians will have to pay through their noses for them. Or is govt going to subsidize them? Petroleum is our most dependable foreign exchange earner, forming 70-80% of our entire export earning as a country. Now, it has crashed to an all time low. Devaluation, I don't support it for now.
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by ChynoBEATS: 7:24am On Feb 04, 2016
Ama80:
it sounds positive but why is d president hesitant?
is this an E-interview or wat :\
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by otitokoroleti: 7:31am On Feb 04, 2016
tunesoft:
Abeg not yet....i still dey waka about pricing my next car. Biko....pity a common salary earner like me. PMB biko
hahaha, the price is already up due to the FG refusal to devalue the naira. bajaj boxer motorcy was sold at 105-110k in december but now its 145k. a visit to mobile phone seller will show you the reality of FG refusal to devalue naira. #fingercrossed
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by Billygee2u: 7:38am On Feb 04, 2016
2rutalk1:
Devaluation is a DELIBERATE reduction in the value of a country's currency in relation to the currencies of other countries. Devaluation is different from depreciation. Whereas devaluation is deliberate, depreciation of currency is caused by some macroeconomic factors.

However, Devaluation is used to discourage import and encourage export of goods and services across borders.

How do we achieve this? When a country's currency is devalued, foreign goods (imports) become so expensive because the value of the country's currency has been reduced making the value of the currency of her trading partner to go up. In this case, the foreign country will be enticed to import from Nigeria (for instance) and our hitherto importers will equally buy Nigerian made products because of high cost of foreign goods. This makes our balance of payment to become favourable.

In the long run (in future), the high rate of export from Nigeria and low import of foreign products by Alaba guys (lol) will increase the value of our naira.
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by sauceEEP(m): 7:50am On Feb 04, 2016
Here to learn...
Re: What Is Devaluation Of Naira? by professore(m): 8:11am On Feb 04, 2016
this is a nice thread

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