TheSeeker:


Islam is a religion of peace if practised moderately, otherwise practised, it's a chaotic assemblage of destructive demons!!

So is Christianity!!

olabowale:

@TheSeeker: 90001 is LA, CA. So if you are correct, you must at least be aware of the the minority stats of the muslim, in tis land, the United States.
But there is no "Good Samaritan" syndrome or mindset, in Islam. Samaritan, good or otherwise is strange to the muslim. You may call him that, but he will not call himself that. The label he gives himself will be the correct one, since he and not you knew why he came to the defense of the Jewish man.

Remember that the Jewish mand and his women said thatthere were Jews and others who didn;t get involved. Those Jews and others knew the term good Samaritan from the Bible, they didn't take up the label for themselves and defend a victim from the hands of the Christian Mob. I am sure that you remembered the annual easter Judas Iscariot that the youth used to drag about shouting after murderer at it? That could be called a typical Christian behavior towards the Jews, if you think the Muslims are typically violent. But I wonder why the Muslim guy on the Q Train line in NYC got involved, especially that he is obvious that he can't take the Mob? You know he is a little and not heavily build man.

And if you live long in America yo will know that it is a beautiful country, that protects its interests. So she makes and keeps friends alliances that serves this purpose. America only have temporary friendship. Nothing permanent, I tell you. There was a time that Noriega was a friend. There will be a time israel will not be a friend!

Your conclusion about practising moderately, is the best and the injuctions of the Quran is an adverse outcome, meaning worse, bringing chaos, does kind of throw me! I theefore ask; those who are not folowing the Quranic commandments, will you then consider them as "good muslims?" Will the moderate muslims, by your definition be good muslims and will they agree with your either saying that they are good muslims, because they are moderate and it is because they do not obey what is in the Quran, or that anyone who obeys Quran is bad muslims, while they the good muslims are good because they do not obey what is in the Quran?

Your friends need to know how you feel about them, not follwoing Quran makes them moderate and good muslims!


Were you in America when Granada was invade in 1984 and deposed or killed Maurice Bishop? What defense was in play there?

I do believe both religion has to be practised moderately because if you delve so much into the etiquette you're bound to make nothing, but enemies out of other religions. If Christians are to follow the Holy Bible there won't be rapport between a Christian and a Muslim. The Bible said "Do not be unequally yoked with the unbelievers" who are the unbelievers? Everyone else outside the Christian fold. I wouldn't want to ascertain that the two Holy Books were written such that they wreck chaos in the society but it looks so in retrospect.
I have some Christians who publicly castigated me for having Muslims as friends, to answer your question, they are nice because they aren't in depth into the Quranic teachings --- that may not make them a good Muslim in the Quranic context and way out of touch with the reality of the religion but it makes them acceptable in the society whereas a good Muslim, climatically based on the Quranic doctrines, is considered a threat and an unfriendly wicked soul save his cohorts.  If you ask me, I'd prefer a moderate Muslim who keeps the vital and humanitarian teachings of the Quran. Part of these teachings, including helping the needy, love their neighbors etc, rather than an extremist who keeps all the doctrines and hate the environment he finds himself -- which is what I don't like about them. They always have something negative to say about progressive clans.

About America not having permanent friends, that's as a result of change of leadership who have different goals and different approach to diplomatic policies. Like you said about Israel, I think Obama is bring them to a state where US will have less interference with Israel -- which the Republicans warned against against, some Republicans still see him as supporting the Muslim world, hence, making Israel vulnerable from possible attacks from Lebanon and maybe Syria, had Hezbollah won that election.  Overall, I think the first thing we should be concerned about is the environment we are in, I am less concerned about the doctrines of a sect of religion. As disintegration exists in terms of doctrines in Christianity, so does it exist in Islam. Some Christians will particularly tell you they don't like Deeper Life Bible Church but they love Winners' Chapel, that's a sharp contrast. NASFAT will tell you they don't fancy AHMADIYYAH --- that's just how bad it gets with these doctrines, you can't practise all.

In the Book of Zechariah in the Bible, it was stated somewhere there that people bowed down and prayed to God in the Islamic way, which God supported and that gave a boost to Celestial Church's monthly "bowing down" activities(if I'm right). In the Book of Ezekiel, clapping, drumming and dancing was prohibited in the congregation, in fact, God put a curse on people who did it then, is any Church following that anymore? No! No one will go to a Church where there's no drum sets and intriguing musical instruments. Doctrines in the Holy Books are not followed absolutely anymore, so we should choose the ones that makes us acceptable to our society not the kind that will spite hate and unethical war.

Krayola:

So is Christianity!!

Back it up with facts

Tudór:

Shut up!
Yvone ridley was terrified into accepting islam by the islamist bastards who kidnapped her in afghanistan.
That she's still a muslim is a form of stockholm's syndrome.

What is this one saying? Why couldn't her captors develop Lima syndrome?

I guess Anelka too was terrified by one Afghan ref. during a match in Turkey, abi? Come oooonnn!

MUZBO
what are you blabbing?
Her captor couldn't even get remorse syndrome because they are heartless bastards. . . As for anelka,everybody knows he has issues, always sulking and sullen. Converting to islam is one of the many mistakes of his troubled mind which i'm sure he'll realise soon.

TheSeeker:

Back it up with facts

haha. . .are u kiddin me?

"witches" burnt at the stake. . .

Destroyed civilizations of Latin America. (If u want details i can provide, but they are very, very unpleasant)

Little kids charged with witchcraft and flogged, sent to churches instead of schools etc.

People shooting doctors and blowing up clinics that commit abortions because they feel it is "ungodly"

etc etc etc

I thought what i said was common knowledge. When u asked for facts I thought u were joking, honestly. I still think u are

Tudór:

MUZBO
what are you blabbing?
Her captor couldn't even get remorse syndrome because they are heartless bastards. . .

So why did those 'heartless bastards' in Lima develop the syndrome? Or weren't they heartless before the job.

Tudór:

As for anelka,everybody knows he has issues, always sulking and sullen. CONVERTING TO ISLAM IS ONE OF THE MANY MISTAKES OF HIS TROUBLED MIND which i'm sure he'll realise soon.

Thats just wishful thinking. He just became highest goal scorer in the just conclude EPL season.
Things are working for him now. No troubles.

@Tudor

Hmmm . . . u derive lots of fun at being ignorant. Yvonne Ridely accepted Islam 30 months after she was released after studying Islam. She discovered the hypocrisies of the western media (bbc,cnn and co which she has worked for. She wont lie about the way she was treated . . . maybe u need to read her full conversion story . . . then you will come to your senses.

Now Nicholas Anelka has issues. Guy what are you!!! That someone accepted Islam now means he has issues? Have you heared the words. . . have you read why he chose Islam over xtianity he was born into. I think u are the one who has issues here, serious issues at that . . . cos u have chosen to behave like those mad westerners who have succeeded in brain washing lots of people by jumping into conclusion without facts . . . thats what they do all the time . . . abi na lie?

Maybe tommorow or next week, they will present the weapons of mass destruction the founf in iraq

or maybe they will provide real evidences to us that Osama brought down WTC . . .

mumu people . . .

Anelka[b]

Anelka was speaking after his official conversion to Islam, and at the Al-Wassl mosque in UAE read out several verses of the Koran in front of two muftis, senior legal figures in the community who specialise in advising on the Islamic holy book.

The 25-year-old has spoken before about his interest in the religion. In 1999, he said he was inspired by his boyhood friends in the working class community of Trappes, on the outskirts of Paris.

"The Muslim religion interests me," he said. "When I'm in Trappes, I hang out with Muslims and we discuss it a lot. In the summer we're outdoors until 4am, so we have the time to talk.

"I listen to them in order to understand and learn, just like Roberto Baggio on Buddhism. It opens your mind and the subject fascinates me, just like astronomy does."

Earlier this year, it was reported he had visited the state-funded school in London founded by Yusef Islam, formerly the singer Cat Stevens.

Now it appears his conversion is now complete and a new chapter is about to start in his controversial life. [/b]

- - -And about Islam

“It can help you during difficult times. I often say to myself, about football or otherwise, that things happen for a reason. You can't change things. You have to accept them.

“Life is full of ups and downs. You're not happy all the time. My religion offers stability and keeps my feet on the ground. It helps me to know who and where I am. I haven't changed at all. I have the same personality. I'm the same person I was when I was 20.”

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Ribery

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Watch Yvonne Ridley Story on her conversion . . .the u can zip ur lips. A woman celebrated by the BBC and CNN as a brave journalist, the same assholes are calling her names now. . . hypocracy anyone?

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Keep wallowing in your self delusions. Ridley is a deeply troubled woman. Kidnap by muslims can mess up your psche.
@muzbo
the lima guys were not as heartless as those islamist bastards in afghanistan.

Tudór:

Keep wallowing in your self delusions. Ridley is a deeply troubled woman. Kidnap by muslims can mess up your psche.
@muzbo
the lima guys were not as heartless as those islamist bastards in afghanistan.

laff won kill me die

So u have read anelka's words . . .

did u watch yvonne video and heared her words. . . ?

The words of a psychologically sick and traumatised woman can be really misleading.

Tudór:

The words of a psychologically sick and traumatised woman can be really misleading.

Exactly! especially if the camera men were Taliban or if it was amateur video the device could've been rigged with an explosive device remotely controlled- so she had to lie. RIGHT?
Do you know how many psychologically deranged religious leaders could be out there? Anyway I'm sure most of them are not muslims.

I don't care if they're christians or muslims. . . .y'all are in the same boat of delusion and gullibility. Get off! Before it's too late.

javalove:

laff won kill me die  

So u have read anelka's words . . .

did u watch yvonne video and heared her words. . . ?

you are so sick and vile it is unbelievable. why using this woman as your propangada tool?
how many sane people do you know become buddy to wicked people like you lot?

Abeg javalove and muzbo leave am. Are you actually expecting him to admit defeat. Let it go. He knows the truth, no matter how many insults he posts.
@the seeker,
I think you are regarding NASFAT an ahmadiyyahs as sects in Islam. They are not.
Nasfat is a religious organisation for muslims and ahmadiyyah, as a I have been made to understand are not even muslims. Though they claim to be.

“It can help you during difficult times. I often say to myself, about football or otherwise, that things happen for a reason. You can't change things. You have to accept them.

“Life is full of ups and downs. You're not happy all the time. My religion offers stability and keeps my feet on the ground. It helps me to know who and where I am. I haven't changed at all. I have the same personality. I'm the same person I was when I was 20.”

Soothing and hope in times of difficulty, caution in times of prosperity. This is what moves me most about this Islam. Not a religion that preaches wordly prosperity at all times, which is not possible. Islam recognizes ups and downs, and proffers how to deal with each. Thank you Anelka.

Tudór:

I don't care if they're christians or muslims. . . .y'all are in the same boat of delusion and gullibility. Get off! Before it's too late.

What sadness!

I feel sorry for you too. . .infact, i weep! :-.[

OFF Course, I totally agree that Muslim saves us from Xtians thugs.
We live side by side with Muslim for over 1000yrs.
Muslims protect us in da Islamic Spain, what happen after the Roman Morons and Catholic Ass.h.ole conquer Spain. They said we should convert to their puny religion or leave Spain. Muslims rule Spain for 800yrs without converting the whole population to ISLAM, while pagan origin Roman Catholic took less than hundred to turn everyone in Spain into their pedophile religion.
Is Hitler a Muslim?
Why do Xtian hate us, will their carpenter (JESUS) came from us. Am glad they killed that Son of a bit, ch on cross, we cant he save his from death, what an Ass--hole coming back to say he die for them what a wonderful fairy tale

@jewishgal, please do you know what you are talking about or you are one of islamic morron b,cos according to what you posted on here it shows that you are one of that hypocrite that pose on the tent of jews and to accuise one religion , with that can it make your religion more Godly? am sorry.Pray let almighty God should open your eyes so that you will see the true light of God . open your eyes and see the truth of your life, By the way jewish is it a religion or what b,cos i can understand your posts

The conversion of the british woman journalist, though amazing, but it is pale to her strong belief in this very Islam.

Illustration: While she was in Egypt, she had an audience with a "scholar", who before she left his presence, he extended his hand so that he can shake hers.

She refused to offer her hand, not expending it and reminding the "scholar" that it is dislike if not forbidden to shake hands with a person that you can marry.

is she a fluke? No.

Is she an ignorant muslim? No. Many of the born muslims, and longer in Islam than her will shake hands that she refused. The scholar by his wanting to shake her hand tells us that no one knows everything and not above being corrected.

while Tudor will not see wisdom in her conversion and her refusal to shake hand of a man she is not permitted to mingle freely with, I do. islam will enter the hearts that yearn for success. See how Allah brought her to Islam. After all she was married to a muslim who fathers her child, a "peaceful muslim." then Allah used a "war monger muslim" who she hated to bring her into light of Islam.

By the way, since she is not with them any longer, if she was pretending, she should have stopped by now. If she was a damaged goods, psychologically damaged, her people and friends, indeed the whole of england would have paid her medical bill to bring her back to her senses.

Jewish Gal I believe there is no need to Insult Jesus to press home your views.

Jcross I only wonder whether you were convulsing when you typed your post instead of facing reality you instead decided to attack on issues that exposes your Ignorance.

Jewish_gal:

Why do Xtian hate us, will their carpenter (JESUS) came from us. Am glad they killed that Son of a bit, ch on cross, we cant he save his from death, what an backside--hole coming back to say he die for them what a wonderful fairy tale

Hello Jewish_gal, i bet you will still come to the saving knowledge of the sweet Lord Jesus. Your tantrums are still elementary. You still have room for improvement. i guess you dont expect Christians to start whining and crying cos you "abused" Jesus? Of course not! Paul did worse, hence my saying you can still improve further; vent and indulge yourself to the fullest. When the fullness of time comes, what will be will be, you will still be the same one saying good morning Jesus.

Enjoy the rest of your day

On watching the short film I was struck by what the man said: " my fellow country men ( probably because they were christens) did nothing to save, but this man whose faith is --- is maligned in the media, saved despite the fact that Palestein and Jews are fighting in M.E,"

that is with all the squables Jews and Muslims have there is still a possibility for go back to the days were Muslims protected Jews and others from persecution, and the Arab- isreali conflict can be overcomed by the tender hearts of palesteins and Jews who want to see the light

Muslims have always shown kindness to the Jews

Perhaps the greatest testimony to the Muslims who actively opposed fascism is the work of the Paris Mosque in protecting Jewish children from the Nazis, who were sending French Jews: men, women, and children to perish in the death camps of Eastern Europe. The mosque itself was built by the French government in appreciation of the 500,000 Muslims who had fought for France during World War One, with 100,000 losing their lives in the trenches. It is estimated that the mosque helped to save over 1,700 Jewish children, by providing them with shelter, transit, and Muslim names. [11] Below is a copy of a pamphlet that circulated among Algerian Muslims in Paris at the onset of the Nazis' campaign against the Jews in France:

Yesterday at dawn, the Jews of Paris were arrested. The old, the women, and the children. In exile like ourselves, workers like ourselves. They are our brothers. Their children are like our own children. The one who encounters one of his children must give that child shelter and protection for as long as misfortune - or sorrow - lasts. Oh, man of my country, your heart is generous.