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Why Are Nurses Treated Unfairly In The Health Sector? by Drdonzeez(m): 8:50pm On Feb 06, 2016
Each day,I keep wondering why the nursing profession in Nigeria is so downgraded in the health sector.Despite the fact that they spend the same number of years as pharmacists, lab scientists and physiotherapists,they are placed at a lower entry level (CONHESS 7)..It's high time the leadership of JOHESU and the federal government realise the nurses are indispensable members of the medical team,thus, be treated equally with other JOHESU members.Your opinions are highly welcomed..cc:lalasticlala
Re: Why Are Nurses Treated Unfairly In The Health Sector? by Lagusta(m): 12:12am On Feb 07, 2016
Sir.....

First and foremost, lets all bury this JOHESU thingy, its all gone and dead....

Now, the problem is, health sector in Nigeria is in shambles, from the problems associated with primary health care to the issues pertaining the administrative cadre.....

Imagine someone that spent three years in nursing school, being equal to someone that spent 5yrs in the university, with one extra year as a corps member.....

But at the same time, graduate nurses should never feel inferior, they are also important in the process of patient recuperation......

For instance, without nurses, a doctor would never know when a patient suddenly developed pyrexia, or noticed a change in the color of urine....

A nurse must be closer to the patient than the doctor.....

I am a doc, so I know what I am saying

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Re: Why Are Nurses Treated Unfairly In The Health Sector? by Chartey(m): 7:56am On Feb 07, 2016
Are graduate nurses really started on CONHESS 7? That doesn't make sense if it's true. Will be difficult for NANMS to really push for change as graduate nurses are in the minority in that association.
Re: Why Are Nurses Treated Unfairly In The Health Sector? by Drdonzeez(m): 8:15am On Feb 07, 2016
Chartey:
Are graduate nurses really started on CONHESS 7? That doesn't make sense if it's true. Will be difficult for NANMS to really push for change as graduate nurses are in the minority in that association.
They actually start from conhess 7 while their counterparts start from 8 or 9.
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Re: Why Are Nurses Treated Unfairly In The Health Sector? by TheArchangel(f): 3:56pm On Feb 07, 2016
Lagusta:
Sir.....

First and foremost, lets all bury this JOHESU thingy, its all gone and dead....

Now, the problem is, health sector in Nigeria is in shambles, from the problems associated with primary health care to the issues pertaining the administrative cadre.....

Ima[b]gine someone that spent three years in nursing school, being equal to someone that spent 5yrs in the university, with one extra year as a corps member...[/b]..

But at the same time, graduate nurses should never feel inferior, they are also important in the process of patient recuperation......

For instance, without nurses, a doctor would never know when a patient suddenly developed pyrexia, or noticed a change in the color of urine....

A nurse must be closer to the patient than the doctor.....

I am a doc, so I know what I am saying
I bet he is referring to graduate nurses.

Going by how dental technologist are placed, nursing school graduates should start internships on conhess 7 and employed at Conhess 8 since they are being employed as HND holders.

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Re: Why Are Nurses Treated Unfairly In The Health Sector? by Koboseadotorg(m): 5:57pm On Feb 07, 2016
It seems lalasticlala and uncle seun are anti nurses.
Re: Why Are Nurses Treated Unfairly In The Health Sector? by Lagusta(m): 6:36pm On Feb 07, 2016
TheArchangel:
I bet he is referring to graduate nurses.

Going by how dental technologist are placed, nursing school graduates should start internships on conhess 7 and employed at Congress 8 since they are being employed as HND holders.

I don't understand....

Are you saying nursing school graduates have a HND equivalent after 3yrs

Just asking tho, wanna learn....
Re: Why Are Nurses Treated Unfairly In The Health Sector? by TheArchangel(f): 8:41pm On Feb 07, 2016
Lagusta:


I don't understand....

Are you saying nursing school graduates have a HND equivalent after 3yrs

Just asking tho, wanna learn....
Yeah.. The course curriculum after being scrutinized by ministry of educatin deemed it an HND qualification for employment purposes.

You sound surprised. What say thou on the MBBS ( dual degree) you graduate with after 6 years while others escape with only a degree after 5 years. Most things doesn't makes sense when analysed superficially, unless an in depth assessment is undertaken. Even chews comes out with HND after three years of study even are mobilised for NYSC, why would nurses own be surprising tongue
Re: Why Are Nurses Treated Unfairly In The Health Sector? by Lagusta(m): 12:32am On Feb 08, 2016
TheArchangel:
Yeah.. The course curriculum after being scrutinized by ministry of educatin deemed it an HND qualification for employment purposes.

You sound surprised. What say thou on the MBBS ( dual degree) you graduate with after 6 years while others escape with only a degree after 5 years. Most things doesn't makes sense when analysed superficially, unless an in depth assessment is undertaken. Even chews comes out with HND after three years of study even are mobilised for NYSC, why would nurses own be surprising tongue

The MBBS degree is quite archaic....

In the USA, you first get a degree before entering medical school, where you are awarded DOCTOR OF MEDICINE (MD) which, as we all know, is equivalent to a PhD.....

And I haven't seen a CHEW being mobilized for NYSC, I also find that hard to believe.....

Moreover, medicine and surgery are two separate entities, even if they both deal with diagnosing and treating diseases; there is no surgical cure for hypertension, as there is no medical cure for a hernia....

So what say you.....
Re: Why Are Nurses Treated Unfairly In The Health Sector? by TheArchangel(f): 5:54am On Feb 08, 2016
Lagusta:


The MBBS degree is quite archaic....

In the USA, you first get a degree before entering medical school, where you are awarded DOCTOR OF MEDICINE (MD) which, as we all know, is equivalent to a PhD.....

And I haven't seen a CHEW being mobilized for NYSC, I also find that hard to believe.....

Moreover, medicine and surgery are two separate entities, even if they both deal with diagnosing and treating diseases; there is no surgical cure for hypertension, as there is no medical cure for a hernia....

So what say you.....
Firstly, the Commonwealth and European countries still using MBBS should modify it to suit the current trend.
Secondly, doctor of medicine is awarded as a postgraduate degree but it is not equivalent persay, but some universities has MD/PhD's programs which are the equivalent of PhD.
Thirdly, you haven't been following the new trend. THE CHEWS are springing up strong and hard now. Google the NYSC mobilisations and colleges involved it will boggle your mind.

Oh sure, the same way nursing and midwifery are separate entities.
[b]From Wikipedia
The Doctorate of Medicine and of Philosophy (MD–PhD) is a dual doctoral degree for physician–scientists. The degree is granted by medical schools often through the Medical Scientist Training Program or other non-MSTP MD-PhD programs. The National Institutes of Health currently provides 43 medical schools with Medical Scientist Training Program grants that support the training of students in MD–PhD programs at these institutions through tuition and stipend allowances.[1] These programs are often competitive, with some admitting as few as two students per academic year.[2]
Training structure Edit

Pre-doctoral Edit
Upon matriculating in an MD–PhD program, students will often follow a 2-PhD-2 plan. In this system, students will complete the pre-clinical curriculum of their medical school (2 years), transition into PhD graduate training (3–5 years), and then finally complete clinical rotations (2 years). By contrast, students in the Medical Scholars Program at the University of Illinois at Chicago are generally required to complete all the requirements of a regular doctoral student before advancing to the second year medical school curriculum.

Post-doctoral Edit
Upon receiving the MD–PhD dual degree, physician-scientists may choose a variety of career paths. The most common continues to be residency training with additional laboratory training. However, a physician–scientist may also elect to refuse residency training, thereby having a career essentially akin to a conventional PhD scientist. A physician–scientist may also elect to work in the private sector with no further formal academic clinical nor research training.Research physicians Edit


Even though the MD and DO are first professional degrees and not doctorates of research (i.e., a PhD), many holders of the MD or DO degree conduct clinical and basic scientific research and publish in peer-reviewed journals during training and after graduation; an academic physician whose work emphasizes basic research is called a physician-scientist. Combined medical and research training is offered through programs granting MD-PhD or DO-PhD degrees. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) through its Medical Scientist Training Program funds MD-PhD training programs at many universities. Some MDs and DOs choose a research career and receive funding from the NIH as well as other sources such as the Howard Hughes Medical Institute. A few even go on to become Nobel Laureates.[12] The United States Department of Education and the National Science Foundation do not include the M.D. or other professional doctorates among the degrees that are equivalent to research doctorates.[13][14][/b]

In UK, it is different as the MD degrees is a postgraduate degree that is equivalent to PhD after first obtaining the MBBS..
Below is a screenshot from university of Kent.

Re: Why Are Nurses Treated Unfairly In The Health Sector? by Lagusta(m): 10:06am On Feb 08, 2016
TheArchangel:

Firstly, the Commonwealth and European countries still using MBBS should modify it to suit the current trend.
Secondly, doctor of medicine is awarded as a postgraduate degree but it is not equivalent persay, but some universities has MD/PhD's programs which are the equivalent of PhD.
Thirdly, you haven't been following the new trend. THE CHEWS are springing up strong and hard now. Google the NYSC mobilisations and colleges involved it will boggle your mind.

Oh sure, the same way nursing and midwifery are separate entities.
[b]From Wikipedia
The Doctorate of Medicine and of Philosophy (MD–PhD) is a dual doctoral degree for physician–scientists. The degree is granted by medical schools often through the Medical Scientist Training Program or other non-MSTP MD-PhD programs. The National Institutes of Health currently provides 43 medical schools with Medical Scientist Training Program grants that support the training of students in MD–PhD programs at these institutions through tuition and stipend allowances.[1] These programs are often competitive, with some admitting as few as two students per academic year.[2]
Training structure Edit

Pre-doctoral Edit
Upon matriculating in an MD–PhD program, students will often follow a 2-PhD-2 plan. In this system, students will complete the pre-clinical curriculum of their medical school (2 years), transition into PhD graduate training (3–5 years), and then finally complete clinical rotations (2 years). By contrast, students in the Medical Scholars Program at the University of Illinois at Chicago are generally required to complete all the requirements of a regular doctoral student before advancing to the second year medical school curriculum.

Post-doctoral Edit
Upon receiving the MD–PhD dual degree, physician-scientists may choose a variety of career paths. The most common continues to be residency training with additional laboratory training. However, a physician–scientist may also elect to refuse residency training, thereby having a career essentially akin to a conventional PhD scientist. A physician–scientist may also elect to work in the private sector with no further formal academic clinical nor research training.Research physicians Edit


Even though the MD and DO are first professional degrees and not doctorates of research (i.e., a PhD), many holders of the MD or DO degree conduct clinical and basic scientific research and publish in peer-reviewed journals during training and after graduation; an academic physician whose work emphasizes basic research is called a physician-scientist. Combined medical and research training is offered through programs granting MD-PhD or DO-PhD degrees. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) through its Medical Scientist Training Program funds MD-PhD training programs at many universities. Some MDs and DOs choose a research career and receive funding from the NIH as well as other sources such as the Howard Hughes Medical Institute. A few even go on to become Nobel Laureates.[12] The United States Department of Education and the National Science Foundation do not include the M.D. or other professional doctorates among the degrees that are equivalent to research doctorates.[13][14][/b]

In UK, it is different as the MD degrees is a postgraduate degree that is equivalent to PhD after first obtaining the MBBS..
Below is a screenshot from university of Kent.



Nice one dear, keep it up....

Nice to have intelligent nurses here, wish all nurses are like u
Re: Why Are Nurses Treated Unfairly In The Health Sector? by TheArchangel(f): 10:12am On Feb 08, 2016
Lagusta:


Nice one dear, keep it up....

Nice to have intelligent nurses here, wish all nurses are like u
Hope you've not been working along side nursing graduates from "quota system or educationally disadvantaged" states. tongue
Re: Why Are Nurses Treated Unfairly In The Health Sector? by Lagusta(m): 1:01pm On Feb 08, 2016
TheArchangel:
Hope you've not been working along side nursing graduates from "quota system or educationally disadvantaged" states. tongue

Loooooolz....

No dear... grin

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