some people gan self.... na wa oo... #800, #1000, #2000, #2200, #1200.........chaii Oga ooo...

legenduq:


Mathematically

In the initial stage let's assume
Money from the buyer is x=1000
Money from john is y = 1000
Change given to buyer is c=800
Value for item sold is b=200

1. Buyer comes to buy with x= 1000
2. Seller exchanges x for y which still makes it =1000
3. Change is given to buyer c = 800
4.value for the item sold b = 200.

In a normal transaction the buyer gained b =200
But since john discovered that the money from the the buyer was counterfeit x= -1000
Note that since the buyer came with counterfeit
c= -800, b= -200, the exchange automatically becomes borrow. So the shopkeeper borrowed 1000 to dash the buyer(800+200 worth of item) and later John came for his money and is given 1000 and that removes him from the equation.

Now the shopkeeper has lost c=-800, b=-200(which he dashed the buyer ) and the counterfeit he's holding x=-1000. Remember the counterfeit is not (0,zero) but (-1000)
Sum all and you get -2000

not at all.
The counterfeit(#1000) simply represents the #800 he gives as change and the value of good sold(#200)
.
Ok see it this way, assuming that the buyer came with just a counterfeit #200, will you say that the seller lost #400?
.
Simply, the seller lost is his good(worth #200) and the 800 naira he gave out as change ==> the 1000 counterfeit. This is just like a case where the buyer came and stole N200 worth of good and N800 the shopkeeper kept in his drawer and dropped a piece of paper for the shopkeeper
Think again!

legenduq:


Mathematically

In the initial stage let's assume
Money from the buyer is x=1000
Money from john is y = 1000
Change given to buyer is c=800
Value for item sold is b=200

1. Buyer comes to buy with x= 1000
2. Seller exchanges x for y which still makes it =1000
3. Change is given to buyer c = 800
4.value for the item sold b = 200.

In a normal transaction the buyer gained b =200
But since john discovered that the money from the the buyer was counterfeit x= -1000
Note that since the buyer came with counterfeit
c= -800, b= -200, the exchange automatically becomes borrow. So the shopkeeper borrowed 1000 to dash the buyer(800+200 worth of item) and later John came for his money and is given 1000 and that removes him from the equation.

Now the shopkeeper has lost c=-800, b=-200(which he dashed the buyer ) and the counterfeit he's holding x=-1000. Remember the counterfeit is not (0,zero) but (-1000)
Sum all and you get -2000

guy, na wetin X dey find for this matter now ?..........oooooo God... na wa o.... in fact d person wey bring d question self no mention anybody name except John. na now u come dey bring X into the matter.... bros abeg

@shebosss,i sent you a mail.

legenduq:


Mathematically

In the initial stage let's assume
Money from the buyer is x=1000
Money from john is y = 1000
Change given to buyer is c=800
Value for item sold is b=200

1. Buyer comes to buy with x= 1000
2. Seller exchanges x for y which still makes it =1000
3. Change is given to buyer c = 800
4.value for the item sold b = 200.

In a normal transaction the buyer gained b =200
But since john discovered that the money from the the buyer was counterfeit x= -1000
Note that since the buyer came with counterfeit
c= -800, b= -200, the exchange automatically becomes borrow. So the shopkeeper borrowed 1000 to dash the buyer(800+200 worth of item) and later John came for his money and is given 1000 and that removes him from the equation.

Now the shopkeeper has lost c=-800, b=-200(which he dashed the buyer ) and the counterfeit he's holding x=-1000. Remember the counterfeit is not (0,zero) but (-1000)
Sum all and you get -2000

Choi.. All ds write up.
Me insists he lost 1800

@DIVA99,happy belated birthday to you.

legenduq check my post again, I ve modified it

chumaster:
not at all.
The counterfeit(1000) simply represents the 800 he gives as change and the value of good sold(200)
.
Ok see it this way, assuming that the buyer came with just a counterfeit 200, will you say that he lost 400?

If the shopkeeper is still with the counterfeit note, then he has lost 1000(800+200) and is holding a 1000note that he cannot use. So long as he's with the note it is assumed he has 1000 that is in deficit

chumaster:
not at all.
The counterfeit(#1000) simply represents the #800 he gives as change and the value of good sold(#200)
.
Ok see it this way, assuming that the buyer came with just a counterfeit #200, will you say that the seller lost #400?
.
Simply, the seller lost is his good(worth #200) and the 800 naira he gave out as change ==> the 1000 counterfeit. This is just like a case where the buyer came and stole N200 worth of good and N800 the shopkeeper kept in his drawer and dropped a piece of paper for the shopkeeper
Think again!

Tell me what will happen to the counterfeit money?the money was returned right?Yes,shopkeeper paid out of his/her purse to avoid problem right?again,what will happen to the counterfeit money?
I still insist he lost #2000.

legenduq:


If the shopkeeper is still with the counterfeit note, then he has lost 1000(800+200) and is holding a 1000note that he cannot use. So long as he's with the note it is assumed he has 1000 that is in deficit

Thank you for this.

legenduq:


If the shopkeeper is still with the counterfeit note, then he has lost 1000(800+200) and is holding a 1000note that he cannot use. So long as he's with the note it is assumed he has 1000 that is in deficit

the counterfeit is nothing.
It is just like the seller and the buyer did trade by battar. Ie they exchanged a 'piece of paper' for a '200 good + -800'

Dream2:

Tell me what will happen to the counterfeit money?the money was returned right?Yes,shopkeeper paid out of his/her purse to avoid problem right?again,what will happen to the counterfeit money?
I still insist he lost #2000.

shopkeeper did not payout from his purse as far as John is concerned. Remember he collected 1000(200 in 5 pieces) from John

How are you all today. To all monikers in this forum ,one love.

chumaster:
shopkeeper did not payout from his purse as far as John is concerned. Remember he collected 1000(200 in 5 pieces) from John

Haaa,chumaster!!!

chumaster:
the counterfeit is nothing.
It is just like the seller and the buyer did trade by battar. Ie they exchanged a 'piece of paper' for a '200 good + -800'

The counterfeit is something.

chumaster:
the counterfeit is nothing.
It is just like the seller and the buyer did trade by battar. Ie they exchanged a 'piece of paper' for a '200 good + -800'

I don't think the counterfeit is nothing, if you go to the bank to pay for school fees for example and you fill your teller accordingly andpass both to the cashier. If he/she counts it and finds out one is counterfeit. Won't you replace it?

Dream2:

Haaa,chumaster!!!

calm down, Maths is my subject
you came to me with #500 requesting I break it for you only for me to notice that the 500 is fake and QUICKLY handed it back to you for another 500; see you did not pay me out, we just exchanged a whole 500 with 500 in small denominations. THIS IS THE CASE BTW THE SELLER AND JOHN, hence their activity(btw seller and John ONLY) does not affect this issue

patty2014:
Sheboss where are you? Bia eba means come here, ifunaya means love. Hence bia eba ifunaya'm,"come here my love" #sheboss#

Lolzzzz sister mi ame nwod!! na Coyy wan learn Ibo na...why u come call my name? As e wan leave me go marry Ibo girl, na God win. Bc I don't understand why else he's sooo interested in learning Ibo. My own language fa e never learn that one finish.

legenduq:


I don't think the counterfeit is nothing, if you go to the bank to pay for school fees for example and you fill your teller accordingly andpass both to the cashier. If he/she counts it and finds out one is counterfeit. Won't you replace it?

lets assume you paid into ur own bank account, you just lost 1000 that is the counter feit from your own purse.

But the counterfeit in the above topic came from the buyer IN EXCHANGE FOR 200 worth of good and 800 change given

chumaster:

calm down, Maths is my subject
you came to me with #500 requesting I break it for you only for me to notice that the 500 is fake and QUICKLY handed it back to you for another 500; see you did not pay me out, we just exchanged a whole 500 with 500 in small denominations. THIS IS THE CASE BTW THE SELLER AND JOHN, hence their activity(btw seller and John ONLY) does not affect this issue

Maths is different from simple logic,logic it is,we will keep dragging this because our opinions are different hence no conclusion but can we put plus and minus out of this and let the logic flow?try it.

simple arithmetic that everybody is dragging like dis... mchtweeee .......if not that I don't like math... na wa oo

Just having this thought of a thing,we're in july,follow by August then September,OCTOBER and NOVEMBER.
What?it means we're having less than 12 or 13weeks to resume for camp,no time at all,and am yet to do my clearance?tch tch tch tch,too bad,it's a must this month.

fghcxzsrd

dipson546:
simple arithmetic that everybody is dragging like dis... mchtweeee .......if not that I don't like math... na wa oo

LOL,yeye pikin,the last time i did real maths was like 5years ago,me na Geography full my head o.

syvcmlo

Rebekkah:
no blame them o, na NYSC cause am. NYSC eh if I catch you eh...look what you done

Wetin we go do nah,you ehn,na once in a blue moon u dh show face,how you doing?

Dream2:

Maths is different from simple logic,logic it is,we will keep dragging this because our opinions are different hence no conclusion but can we put plus and minus out of this and let the logic flow?try it.

maths is my subject but as a Computer science guy, we deal more in logic. ask yorme.

Cool down and think again. This time see urself as the shopkeeper, what actually did you lost?

Legenduq, I need to hear from you

chumaster:
maths is my subject but as a Computer science guy, we deal more in logic. ask yorme.

Cool down and think again. This time see urself as the shopkeeper, what actually did you lost?

I will still refer you to this legenduq post below:




"If the shopkeeper is still with the
counterfeit note, then he has lost
1000(800+200) and is holding a 1000note
that he cannot use. So long as he's with
the note it is assumed he has 1000 that
is in deficit"

dgjinnlo

Chumaster I didn't see my name there, that aside I have a very serious problem I need your advice on what to do, my name is finally out on nysc mobilization list @ my school but the phone number displayed there I lost it and couldn't get it back am kind worried if it will pose a challenge during my registration if I should use my current phone number, please I need you candid advice






Cc yorme your view would be of help thanks

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