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Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by pollmaniac(m): 4:45am On Feb 14, 2016
The world has plunged into a "new Cold War", the Russian premier said Saturday,
as Moscow came under attack at a global security gathering over its targeting of
moderate rebels in Syria.


US Secretary of State John Kerry told the Munich Security Conference that
"the vast majority of Russia's attacks (in Syria) have been against legitimate opposition groups."


"To adhere to the agreement it made, Russia's targeting must change,"
he said, referring to the international deal forged on Friday, in which 17
countries agreed to seek a "cessation of hostilities" in Syria within a week.
Dmitry Medvedev speaks at the Munich Security Conference on February 13, 2016


Dmitry Medvedev speaks at the Munich Security Conference on February 13, 2016 ©Christof Stache (AFP)


"This is the moment. This is a hinge point. Decisions made in the coming
days and weeks, and a few months could end the war in Syria
–- or could define a very difficult set of choices for the future."


He spoke shortly after Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said the world had
"slid into a new period of Cold War."


"Almost every day we are accused of making new horrible threats either
against NATO as a whole, against Europe or against the US or other
countries," Medvedev said.


His foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, hit back at Kerry's comments,
saying the new deal on Syria could not only focus on Russia's role.


"The fact that the discussions on the truce are beginning to go towards
prioritising putting a stop to the actions of the Russian air force creates
in me suspicions, gives reasons for sad thoughts, about how our Munich
adventure will end," said Lavrov.

- 'This is your aggression' -


Meanwhile, a panel of eastern European leaders lined up to add their own
accusations of Russian aggression.

"Every single day, Russian troops, Russian weapons, Russian ammunition
penetrate into my country," said Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko.

He addressed Russian President Vladimir Putin, who was not present, saying:
"Mr Putin, this is not a civil war in Ukraine, this is your aggression.
This is not a civil war in Crimea, this is your soldiers who occupied my country."


Kerry emphasised that sanctions on Russia would remain in place until it
implemented all aspects of the Ukraine peace agreement
reached in Belarus' capital Minsk last year.


"Russia has a simple choice: fully implement Minsk or continue to face
economically damaging sanctions," he said.


An emotional Poroshenko also warned that "pro-Russian parties"
were undermining Europe from within with an alternative set of values.

"Isolationism, intolerance, disrespect of human rights, religious fanatics,
homophobia -- this alternative Europe has a leader. His name is Mr Putin."

By contrast, Medvedev had earlier criticised the expansion of NATO and
EU influence deep into formerly Soviet-ruled eastern Europe, which Russia sees as its sphere of influence.

"European politicians thought that creating a so-called belt of friends at
Europe's side, on the outskirts of the EU, could be a guarantee of security,
and what's the result?" he said. "Not a belt of friends but a belt of exclusion."


But he also struck a more positive note, saying: "Our positions differ,
but they do not differ as much as 40 years ago when a wall was standing in Europe."

- 'Coercion and intimidation' -

NATO secretary general Jens Stoltenberg also addressed the forum,
vowing to combine a firm stance against Russia with more dialogue.

"We have seen a more assertive Russia, a Russia which is destabilising
the European security order," he said. "NATO does not seek confrontation
and we don't want a new Cold War. At the same time our response has to be firm."


NATO is "undertaking the biggest reinforcement to our collective defence
in decades, to send a powerful signal to deter any aggression or intimidation,"
Stoltenberg added. "Not to wage war, but to prevent war."

Earlier this week, Stoltenberg announced that plans had been approved for
an increased NATO presence in eastern Europe -- which sources said would
involve between 3,000 and 6,000 troops rotating through the region.


Lavrov hit back, criticising the "fashion for Russophobia in some capitals" and the
"failure of NATO and the EU to fully cooperate with Russia".


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Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by pollmaniac(m): 4:47am On Feb 14, 2016
Its worth mentioning that most of Europe are in favor of Mr. Putin, and if you are a regular reader of the dailymail, you'll notice that in posts such as this one, where comments do not favor the EU governments or the UK government, comments gets disabled.

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Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by pollmaniac(m): 4:49am On Feb 14, 2016
Meanwhile in another part of the world called Nigeria, A poll has been taken on its president's performance. And he seems to be dangerously slacking behind.

Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by pollmaniac(m): 4:50am On Feb 14, 2016
doesnt look good. Keep voting

Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by pollmaniac(m): 4:51am On Feb 14, 2016
Holla @ me for all ur polling needs free of charge!
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by pollmaniac(m): 4:51am On Feb 14, 2016
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by Yhinkss(m): 4:54am On Feb 14, 2016
Russia is on its own. It seems the only ally the Russia has now is the Iran which has an underlying interest in Syria as a major shite claim.
The international community is closing down on Russia right now because according to US secretary of states Kerry, if the ongoing peace process fail the world will have to attack Syria by then Russia will be in trouble.
As such Saudi Arabia, UAE as well have promised to provide soldiers which will add to the superpower legions
Definitely the cold war is breading fromx syrian crises as well as Crimea stalemate
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by pollmaniac(m): 5:00am On Feb 14, 2016
Yhinkss:
Russia is on its own. It seems the only ally the Russia has now is the Iran which has an underlying interest in Syria as a major shite claim.
The international community is closing down on Russia right now because according to US secretary of states Kerry, if the ongoing peace process fail the world will have to attack Syria by then Russia will be in trouble.
As such Saudi Arabia, UAE as well have promised to provide soldiers which will add to the superpower legions
Definitely the cold war is breading fromx syrian crises as well as Crimea stalemate


Russia may be on its own for now but Majority of the world know that The US and EU are fighting an unjust fight. The world knows why Assad was picked on. And also where the "so called " moderate terrorists and other major terrorists such as ISIS get most of their monetary and weaponry supply from.

But then, the talk is mostly on social media.
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by pollmaniac(m): 5:02am On Feb 14, 2016
pollmaniac:
Meanwhile in another part of the world called Nigeria, A poll has been taken on its president's performance. And he seems to be dangerously slacking behind.


Poll ends on saturday 20th feb 2016 23:59 PM
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by Yhinkss(m): 5:02am On Feb 14, 2016
pollmaniac:
Its worth mentioning that most of Europe are in favor of Mr. Putin, and if you are a regular reader of the dailymail, you'll notice that in posts such as this one, where comments do not favor the EU governments or the UK government, comments gets disabled.
Guy Europeans do not support Mr Putin. If you follow you should will see how European countries oppose him on Turkey debacle. Turkey is an European and as well a NATO member and the moment Russia fly in its airspace which led Turkey to shoot Russian plane down, European countries had come out to support Turkey that it has right to its sovereignty of airspace which must never be breached. This did not go down well with putin who is more than angry with
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by pollmaniac(m): 5:06am On Feb 14, 2016
Yhinkss:

Guy Europeans do not support Mr Putin. If you follow you should will see how European countries oppose him on Turkey debacle. Turkey is an European and as well a NATO member and the moment Russia fly in its airspace which led Turkey to shoot Russian plane down, European countries had come out to support Turkey that it has right to its sovereignty of airspace which must never be breached. This did not go down well with putin who is more than angry with

If you subscribe to dailymail UK, you will get to chat with real Britons.
And they don't!
They also know that their government and the west in general started becoming serious in Syria talks after Russia jumped in.

They also know that the shooting down of the Plane was pre-planned with a tv crew positioned at hand.
They know that Turkey buys crude from ISIS and they overwhelmingly oppose Turkey's the EU bid.
Forget mainstream media, they are largely controlled by the government,

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Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by Flexherbal(m): 5:10am On Feb 14, 2016
Different people different views.
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by Yhinkss(m): 5:21am On Feb 14, 2016
pollmaniac:


If you subscribe to dailymail UK, you will get to chat with real Britons.
And they don't!
They also know that their government and the west in general started becoming serious in Syria talks after Russia jumped in.

They also know that the shooting down of the Plane was pre-planned with a tv crew positioned at hand.
They know that Turkey buys crude from ISIS and they overwhelmingly oppose Turkey's the EU bid.
Forget mainstream media, they are largely controlled by the government,
Nice one there I think that sounds like it
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by Nobody: 6:58am On Feb 14, 2016
Yes I knew this, it didn't just start today, it actually started after the WWII, Ever since, the US hasn't had a cordial relationship with Russia, so Puttin is just acting on the legacy of his predecessors while Obama is doing same.

Now this is the major problem, Syria is what to Russia as what Israel is what to US. Now, The US want Assad ousted and so using rebels to do it just how they did to Ghadaffi but Puttin is so backing Assad fighting against the rebels and other allied NATO forces Turkey and the likes.

Let's just see how it would end but I know it wouldn't result to WW3 because of the Pact and treaties with the UN and the emergence of ICC court.
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by Psylas(m): 7:55am On Feb 14, 2016
well will be watching from 3D here in W. Africa

Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by nifton(m): 9:19am On Feb 14, 2016
USA vs RUSSIA,
NORTH KOREA VS SOUTH KOREA,
ISREAL VS PALESTINE,
TURKEY VS RUSSIA,
UKRAINE VS RUSSIA,
NIGERIA VS POVERTY,CORRUPTION,UNEMPLOYMENT,TERRORISM,SELFISH LEADERS.
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by Nobody: 11:47am On Feb 14, 2016
Yhinkss:
according to US secretary of states Kerry, if the ongoing peace process fail, the world will have to attack Syria by then Russia will be in trouble.

Tell your AngloZionist empire to attack Syria like they did in Libya and watch WW3 commence in 3D - 10minutes after.

I am delighted that the manifestation of Alois Irlmaier's scary prophecy about WW3 is just around the corner. grin

www.messagetoeagle.com/alois-irlmaiers-scary-prophecy-about-world-war-iii/
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by ValerianSteel(m): 12:51am On Feb 15, 2016
aaronson:
Yes I knew this, it didn't just start today, it actually started after the WWII, Ever since, the US hasn't had a cordial relationship with Russia, so Puttin is just acting on the legacy of his predecessors while Obama is doing same.

Now this is the major problem, Syria is what to Russia as what Israel is what to US. Now, The US want Assad ousted and so using rebels to do it just how they did to Ghadaffi but Puttin is so backing Assad fighting against the rebels and other allied NATO forces Turkey and the likes.

Let's just see how it would end but I know it wouldn't result to WW3 because of the Pact and treaties with the UN and the emergence of ICC court.
Uhmmm,pardon me but care to explicate on this causeHow is Syria to Russia,what Israel is to the United States?This notion appears rather far-fetched undecided
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by Nobody: 6:43am On Feb 15, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Uhmmm,pardon me but care to explicate on this causeHow is Syria to Russia,what Israel is to the United States?This notion appears rather far-fetched undecided
Spies
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by sczeska: 7:21am On Feb 15, 2016
Bashed al Assad declare a no fly zone over your sovereign territory and enforce it with Russia. TF! Does Saudi and turkey want staging a ground coalition of. Your soil.
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by fineguy11(m): 8:14am On Feb 15, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Uhmmm,pardon me but care to explicate on this causeHow is Syria to Russia,what Israel is to the United States?This notion appears rather far-fetched undecided
syria is and has always been the only true russian ally in the middle east.even after the fall of the USSR,they maintained,strategic military ties..Al-asad has always served and protected russian interest in syria..most of the military pact signed between HAFIZ AL-ASSAD(bashir's father) and the soviet union are still valid even up till date....
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by ValerianSteel(m): 8:20am On Feb 15, 2016
aaronson:
Spies
I beg your pardon
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by ValerianSteel(m): 8:27am On Feb 15, 2016
fineguy11:
syria is and has always been the only true russian ally in the middle east.even after the fall of the USSR,they maintained,strategic military ties..Al-asad has always served and protected russian interest in syria..most of the military pact signed between HAFIZ AL-ASSAD(bashir's father) and the soviet union are still valid even up till date....
This is no basis of comparison to american relationship with Israel.The US and Israel have an alliance second to no other in the world today,anyone with real knowledge of Israel will not even consider such notion as to comparing it with Syria and Russia.That's just delusionally farfetchedundecided
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by Nobody: 8:51am On Feb 15, 2016
ValerianSteel:
I beg your pardon
believe it or not!
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by fineguy11(m): 1:22pm On Feb 15, 2016
ValerianSteel:
This is no basis of comparison to american relationship with Israel.The US and Israel have an alliance second to no other in the world today,anyone with real knowledge of Israel will not even consider such notion as to comparing it with Syria and Russia.That's just delusionally farfetchedundecided
the russian-syrian strategic alliance is one ABOVE YOUR INTELLECTUAL COMPREHENSION so dont even try to comprehend it,u may end up altering critical component of ur IQ.John kerry even stated it in a BBC interview last year,he said the US knows that the ruskies have always had strategic permanent interest in syria unlike they the US.and America's involvement in syria is temporary(just to defeat isis),unlike russia that have had a military base there since the soviet era..
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by ValerianSteel(m): 3:54pm On Feb 15, 2016
fineguy11:
the russian-syrian strategic alliance is one ABOVE YOUR INTELLECTUAL COMPREHENSION so dont even try to comprehend it,u may end up altering critical component of ur IQ.John kerry even stated it in a BBC interview last year,he said the US knows that the ruskies have always had strategic permanent interest in syria unlike they the US.and America's involvement in syria is temporary(just to defeat isis),unlike russia that have had a military base there since the soviet era..
Russia's presence in Syria has always been a militarized one.Syria gave Russia access to it's territory allowing it have a naval base,in return Russia equips Syria with meagre weapons that has not succeeded in keeping Syrian airspace safe.Israel carried out Operation Orchard and Moscow's weapon and manpower could not do sh*t to Israeli fighters.

Russia's permanent strategic interest in Syria has only been to protect it's military aggression against the West.If Russia were Syria's big brother I don't think today,Syria would instead call on Russia to help fight her battles,rather we'd see a Syria equipped with weapons supplied by Russia to take out it's enemies.

SIPRI states that Russia's military exports to Syria is about $465million while Moscow Times claim its $4billion-a freaking lie that is so glaring.If Syria did purchase weapons worth $4billion from Russia why then did the Assad regime fail woefully to defend itself.Russia's relationship with Syria after the Soviet era is loopsided,at least in the Soviet era,Russia was gracious cancelling billions of Syrian debt.Post Soviet era not much as a loan or economic aid package to Syria,not a single donation of military equipment to the Syrian Armed Forces.If Russia has always been there to defend Syria,Syria would never had fallen to ISIS or moderate rebels and opposition forces in the first place.

Face it,Russia's interest in Syria has never been in the protection of Syria but a facade to keep her presence.

It's an insult to compare Israeli-American co-operation with Russia and Syria,a big insult.

The US sees Israel as a strategic ally whose territorial defense comes first under their relationship.Israel receives yearly military aid package from the US,Obama has revealed the US would be increasing the amount from $3billion to $40billion between now and 2018 in response to Iran's access to money following the lifting of sanctions.

A very formidable unchallenged Israeli Defense Force would grow to become stronger than all other Middle-East countries and will be readily equipped to counter new threats from Iran and elsewhere.

US relationship with Israel sees to it that Israel remains a self-sufficient nation that can defend itself against threats.US has a joint military partnership with Israel covering development of several programmes from missile technology to drone technology,avionics and sub systems and software,something Russia has never had with Syria.With America's support for Israel and Israel's skillfulness,Israel has become a force to be reckoned with in the Middle-East and it would take nukes to bring Tel-Aviv down before it bows to terrorists as compared to Syria.
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by fineguy11(m): 5:09pm On Feb 15, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Russia's presence in Syria has always been a militarized one.Syria gave Russia access to it's territory allowing it have a naval base,in return Russia equips Syria with meagre weapons that has not succeeded in keeping Syrian airspace safe.Israel carried out Operation Orchard and Moscow's weapon and manpower could not do sh*t to Israeli fighters.

Russia's permanent strategic interest in Syria has only been to protect it's military aggression against the West.If Russia were Syria's big brother I don't think today,Syria would instead call on Russia to help fight her battles,rather we'd see a Syria equipped with weapons supplied by Russia to take out it's enemies.

SIPRI states that Russia's military exports to Syria is about $465million while Moscow Times claim its $4billion-a freaking lie that is so glaring.If Syria did purchase weapons worth $4billion from Russia why then did the Assad regime fail woefully to defend itself.Russia's relationship with Syria after the Soviet era is loopsided,at least in the Soviet era,Russia was gracious cancelling billions of Syrian debt.Post Soviet era not much as a loan or economic aid package to Syria,not a single donation of military equipment to the Syrian Armed Forces.If Russia has always been there to defend Syria,Syria would never had fallen to ISIS or moderate rebels and opposition forces in the first place.

Face it,Russia's interest in Syria has never been in the protection of Syria but a facade to keep her presence.

It's an insult to compare Israeli-American co-operation with Russia and Syria,a big insult.

The US sees Israel as a strategic ally whose territorial defense comes first under their relationship.Israel receives yearly military aid package from the US,Obama has revealed the US would be increasing the amount from $3billion to $40billion between now and 2018 in response to Iran's access to money following the lifting of sanctions.

A very formidable unchallenged Israeli Defense Force would grow to become stronger than all other Middle-East countries and will be readily equipped to counter new threats from Iran and elsewhere.

US relationship with Israel sees to it that Israel remains a self-sufficient nation that can defend itself against threats.US has a joint military partnership with Israel covering development of several programmes from missile technology to drone technology,avionics and sub systems and software,something Russia has never had with Syria.With America's support for Israel and Israel's skillfulness,Israel has become a force to be reckoned with in the Middle-East and it would take nukes to bring Tel-Aviv down before it bows to terrorists as compared to Syria.
in summary,SYRIA IS TO RUSSIA,just as ISREAL IS TO AMERICA..US relationship/alliance should never be used as a "YARDSTICK"to measure other alliances,coz both the US and RUSSIA have different global objectives and goals...in International politics;WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE MAY NOT NECCESSARYLY BE GOOD FOR THE GANDER!
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by ValerianSteel(m): 5:36pm On Feb 15, 2016
fineguy11:
in summary,SYRIA IS TO RUSSIA,just as ISREAL IS TO AMERICA..US relationship/alliance should never be used as a "YARDSTICK"to measure other alliances,coz both the US and RUSSIA have different global objectives and goals...in International politics;WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE MAY NOT NECCESSARYLY BE GOOD FOR THE GANDER!
In this case,not all YARDSTICK's have the same length,Russia's relationship with Syria is not at par with Israeli-American relationship undecided
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by fineguy11(m): 7:42pm On Feb 15, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Russia's presence in Syria has always been a militarized one.Syria gave Russia access to it's territory allowing it have a naval base,in return Russia equips Syria with meagre weapons that has not succeeded in keeping Syrian airspace safe.Israel carried out Operation Orchard and Moscow's weapon and manpower could not do sh*t to Israeli fighters.

Russia's permanent strategic interest in Syria has only been to protect it's military aggression against the West.If Russia were Syria's big brother I don't think today,Syria would instead call on Russia to help fight her battles,rather we'd see a Syria equipped with weapons supplied by Russia to take out it's enemies.

SIPRI states that Russia's military exports to Syria is about $465million while Moscow Times claim its $4billion-a freaking lie that is so glaring.If Syria did purchase weapons worth $4billion from Russia why then did the Assad regime fail woefully to defend itself.Russia's relationship with Syria after the Soviet era is loopsided,at least in the Soviet era,Russia was gracious cancelling billions of Syrian debt.Post Soviet era not much as a loan or economic aid package to Syria,not a single donation of military equipment to the Syrian Armed Forces.If Russia has always been there to defend Syria,Syria would never had fallen to ISIS or moderate rebels and opposition forces in the first place.

Face it,Russia's interest in Syria has never been in the protection of Syria but a facade to keep her presence.

It's an insult to compare Israeli-American co-operation with Russia and Syria,a big insult.

The US sees Israel as a strategic ally whose territorial defense comes first under their relationship.Israel receives yearly military aid package from the US,Obama has revealed the US would be increasing the amount from $3billion to $40billion between now and 2018 in response to Iran's access to money following the lifting of sanctions.

A very formidable unchallenged Israeli Defense Force would grow to become stronger than all other Middle-East countries and will be readily equipped to counter new threats from Iran and elsewhere.

US relationship with Israel sees to it that Israel remains a self-sufficient nation that can defend itself against threats.US has a joint military partnership with Israel covering development of several programmes from missile technology to drone technology,avionics and sub systems and software,something Russia has never had with Syria.With America's support for Israel and Israel's skillfulness,Israel has become a force to be reckoned with in the Middle-East and it would take nukes to bring Tel-Aviv down before it bows to terrorists as compared to Syria.
i mavel@the seriousness with which someone can type this false, loopsided,junk piece about russian-syria patnership..u cracked me up with this though,[''Russia's permanent strategic interest in Syria has only been to protect it's military aggression against the West''].this statements sums up your bias and pettiness regarding the russian state..there's no point arguing with u..

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Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by ValerianSteel(m): 12:49pm On Feb 17, 2016
fineguy11:
i mavel@the seriousness with which someone can type this false, loopsided,junk piece about russian-syria patnership..u cracked me up with this though,[''Russia's permanent strategic interest in Syria has only been to protect it's military aggression against the West''].this statements sums up your bias and pettiness regarding the russian state..there's no point arguing with u..
The truth only reeks of bias because you refuse to accept it as fact.
Re: Russia Warns World Is Fighting A New Cold War by fineguy11(m): 4:27pm On Feb 17, 2016
ValerianSteel:
The truth only reeks of bias because you refuse to accept it as fact.
Nonsence!!''Screeming russian aggression everday doesnt make the west right or wrong,it only depicts them as WEAK against the bear''!

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