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Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by oceanp(f): 8:53pm On Feb 28, 2016
818 Simon Utebor writes about the alleged abduction of Ese Oruru, a 14-year-old schoolgirl in Yenagoa, Bayelsa State On August 12, 2015, nothing indicated to Mrs. Rose Oruru, a food vendor in Opolo, Yenagoa Local Government Area of Bayelsa State, that she would soon face an ordeal over her 14-year- old daughter, Ese. That day, she had gone to the market and left her four children at her shop. She returned to find out that her daughter, Ese, was allegedly abducted by one Yinusa, aka Yellow, who is one of her long standing customers. Ese Narrating the incident, the distraught mother said, “When I came back, the elder brother of Ese, Kevin, 16, said Ese had left the shop since 11am and had not returned. I enquired where she could have gone, but he said he did not know. “From there, I started looking for her, asking neighbours if they saw her, but they said they did not. As she usually sold food to northern artisans, I went to the place they usually gathered to find out if they saw Ese. But by the time I got there, they were in the mosque, so, I had to go back. “After some minutes, I sent my son back to the place and directed that he should tell anybody he saw there that I wanted to see Yinusa. As the boy got there, one of them asked my son to tell me to come. When I got there, he said Yinusa, who is also called Yellow, told them he had sold his commercial tricycle and had gone home to Kano with my daughter, Ese. They told me Yinusa said he was taking Ese home to convert her to Islam to enable him to marry her.” One Mohammed (aka Daidi) reportedly informed Oruru that Yinusa had taken Ese to Kano with an intention to marry her. She was 13 years old then. Acting on the information, Oruru approached one Dan Kano, who not only confirmed the story, but also promised to take her to Kano to recover her daughter. But Dan Kano reneged on his promise and sent one Rabiu to accompany the child’s mother to Kano instead. On August 14, the anguished mother set for Kano. She and Rabiu arrived at the ancient city after midnight. In the morning, Rabiu took Oruru to the chief of a village in Tufa, Kura Local Government Area of Kano State. Narrating her anguish amid sobs, Rose said the chief was furious with Rabiu for bringing her to Kano. He told them that Ese had been converted into Islam and renamed ‘Aisha.’ Not only that, the 14-year-old was married and that the child was no longer her daughter. “He also informed us that Ese was in the custody of the Emir of Kano, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, at the palace,” she stated. Not cowed by the chief’s position, Oruru, in company with Rabiu, approached the Emir of Kano’s palace but met a stiff opposition by many youths, who pushed them out of the palace. Oruru said Yinusa (the suspect), through phone calls, informed her that he did not kidnap her daughter as he took permission from one Dan Kano before he abducted her. Sensing the impossibility of seeing her daughter or having an audience with the Emir of Kano, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, Oruru said she broke down in tears and drew a lot of attention. On hearing her cries, an unnamed elderly man invited the police. She added, “When the police arrived, they took me to Kwani Police Station in Kano, where my statement was taken and police officers accompanied me first to the Emir’s palace but we were prevented from entering the palace. “The police then proceeded to the house of the Galadima of Kano, who stated that he did not know anything about the matter. The team proceeded to see the adviser to the Emir, who told them that he did not want to be involved in the matter and then we went to the Secretary to the Emir of Kano. “The secretary informed us that the Chief of Tufa village got an approval from Kura Police Station to take the 14-year-old Ese to the Emir’s Palace. “They said Ese is now a convert of Islam and if brought to her mother, she would not be able to talk or touch her, otherwise, either she (the mother) or Ese would die. He advised that we waited till August 17 to see the Emir.” Mrs. Oruru recounted that on August 17, she was with the Divisional Crime Officer, a Police Inspector from Kwani Police Station, and the Chief of Tufa village at the palace where the Emir of Kano sat in council. “I saw my daughter being brought in a black Sport Utility Vehicle with two police escorts and Yinusa was also present. When the case was mentioned, every other person was allowed inside except me. When the DCO returned from the Emir’s court, he informed me that the Emir of Kano asked us to go to the Sharia Court, which I objected to.” Mrs. Oruru added that the police at Kwani, thereafter, transferred the matter to the State Criminal Investigation Department in Kano, where she was asked to go back to Bayelsa and report the matter to the Bayelsa State Police Command. She further said, “We returned to Bayelsa on August 17 and we made a report at Ekeki Police Station, Yenagoa, and the matter was later transferred to State CID, Yenagoa.” She stated that the police in Yenagoa made some arrests including Dan Kano, and a trip was embarked upon to Kano on September 2. She said on the Kano trip were Dan Kano, K.C. Dahiru (the chairman of the Hausa community in Yenagoa), Mr. Charles Oruru (her husband) and two police officers from the State CID. She said, “The team reported at the Kwani Police Station in Kano where another visit was made to the Emir of Kano. “The Emir informed them that he had since August 26 sent a letter for the release of Ese to her parents.” Ese’s mother lamented that despite all the efforts she, her husband, the police and others had made, as of February 23, Ese had not been released to them but still held hostage in Kano. Ese’s father, Charles Oruru, struggled with tears as he narrated the pain and anguish he had gone through in trying to get his daughter back. “We have tried all we could to get our daughter released to no avail. I am appealing to the Federal Government and the relevant authorities to intervene in the matter to get my daughter released. We do not want this to degenerate into a tribal crisis.” The Orurus, in a bid not to leave any stone unturned, took the matter to non-governmental organisations, Kindling Hope Across Nations Initiative and Child Protection Network under the auspices of the UNICEF. On what the NGOs have done so far, the Executive Director, KHAN Initiative, Mr. Kizito Andah, said after receiving the case, the organisation immediately swung into action by formally informing the Department of State Services. He said several meetings were held in December 2015 with officers of the DSS, noting that the state security outfit made several promises to secure the release of the victim, but that up till date, Ese was still held hostage by the perpetrators. Andah, who is also the Secretary, Child Protection Network, claimed that their coordinator also spoke with the Inspector- General of Police and the police boss gave his word that the girl would be returned to her parents. Yet, that had not been done. He said, “On February 11, we also held a meeting with the Commissioner of Police, Bayelsa State Police command, on the above subject matter and our grievances on the attitude of some of the police officers, who had earlier worked on the case and their failure to secure the release of Ese were duly communicated. “We strongly believe that Ese Oruru has not only been hypnotised but also recruited as a tool in the hands of a fanatical Islamic group in Kano State. Ese is only 14 years old and cannot give informed consent to marriage and is still being held hostage. “Mr. and Mrs. Charles Oruru are petty traders who are putting in all efforts to meet the needs of their children. Securing the return of Ese would not only reaffirm our strong desire to continually protect our children, but also re- emphasise and stamp our indelible position against the acts of these culprits.” Andah, therefore, called on all to join their voices to prevail on the Kano State Government and the Kano Emirate to urgently release Ese. He demanded the prosecution of her abductors under the appropriate law and jurisdiction, saying the matter was of urgent national security and public interest. Corroborating the position of Andah, the Chairperson, CPN, Mrs. Miriam Kombo-Eze, said they wrote letters to and met with many security agencies, including the Ijaw Youth Council over the matter. Kombo-Eze said, “The man that took away this girl and his cohorts collect these girls, who are underage children of 12 and 13 years from this state, convert them to Muslims and their parents can’t do anything about them. “They take permission from their leaders here in Bayelsa State. This is a national security problem.” She said most parents had lost their children in similar circumstances and praised the parents of Ese for pursuing the release of their daughter. She, therefore, urged parents to carefully monitor the kind of people that visit their homes and shops. “Parents should be careful of the kind of persons they welcome to their homes. Everybody should be security conscious. We should be careful of the people that are around us. We are not trying to instigate anyone to take the law into their hands, what we are trying to do is to sensitise people to what is going on in the state,” she counselled. Responding to the incident, the Police Public Relations Officer, Bayelsa State Police Command, Mr. Asinim Butswat, said on Thursday that it was a case of elopement, and not abduction. Butswat, who spoke in a telephone interview, said based on their findings, the boy in question (Yinusa) told the police that he and Ese had been married. But when reminded that Ese was only 14 years old, and 13 when she was abducted, Butswat said the police were of the position that the issue of marriage did not arise in the matter. He said the Bayelsa Command was working closely with its Kano counterpart to secure the release of the girl. The police spokesman said, “Based on our initial findings, it was not a case of abduction but that of elopement. Ese eloped with the boy (Yinusa) to Kano. “Our operatives went for investigative activities in Kano and the boy in question said they were married. When our men went to the Sharia Council to secure her release, the council said they had not signed the necessary papers to let her go. “With the age of the girl, she is not of age for marriage, so the issue of marriage does not arise even though reports indicate that the girl is happy being there. “We want to assure the family that their daughter will soon be released to them. We are working closely with the Kano State Police Command to secure her release.” When SUNDAY PUNCH contacted the Police Public Relations Officer, Kano State Command, Magaji Majia, on the telephone, he said, “I have been making enquiries in Kano State Police Command; 72 police divisions, the state CID, the gender violence section; we don’t have such a case here in Kano.” As of press time, the Turakin Kano, and Chief of Staff of the Emir of Kano, Alhaji Mamuda Sanusi, could not be reached as calls placed to his telephone line did not connect, while text messages sent to his line had yet to be replied to. Last Friday, a police source in Kano, who did not want to be named because he was not authorised to speak on the matter, confirmed to one of our correspondents on the telephone that Oruru was taken to the Emir’s palace sometime last year. The source said Yinusa had complained to the Emir of Kano after his relations had been arrested by the police, following complaints from the girl’s parents. “The matter was referred to us by the Emir of Kano. The man said the girl had converted to Islam and followed him to his hometown in Kano. I saw the girl myself here at Zone 1 headquarters, but we did not do any investigation on the matter.” The source, however, did not mention the name of the hometown, but stated that Oruru is with Yinusa and his family in Kano. “The Emir said that since she voluntarily said she wanted to be a Muslim and had converted to Islam, her parents should not force her, and that even though she is a minor, she should be allowed to practise whatever she wanted to practise. It was the girl that followed the man; she was not taken by force. Although, as a 13- year-old then, she is a minor in the eyes of the law; she has no consent. If she was an adult, she has the free will to go wherever she wants to go. But there was nothing like kidnapping.” Additional report by ARUKAINO UMUKORO Part 2 here: http://www.punchng.com/she- must-have-been-sexually-violated-khan-initiati
Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by Last2comment(m): 8:55pm On Feb 28, 2016
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Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by MonPro: 2:26pm On Feb 29, 2016
If Ijaw youths cannot start removing the heads of these mallams. Then we can not help them. Can an Easterner abduct a fulani girl and bring her Bayelsa or rivers for marriage.
Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by true2god: 5:07pm On Feb 29, 2016
oceanp:
818
Simon Utebor writes about the alleged abduction
of Ese Oruru, a 14-year-old schoolgirl in Yenagoa,
Bayelsa State
On August 12, 2015, nothing indicated to Mrs.
Rose Oruru, a food vendor in Opolo, Yenagoa
Local Government Area of Bayelsa State, that
she would soon face an ordeal over her 14-year-
old daughter, Ese.
That day, she had gone to the market and left
her four children at her shop. She returned to
find out that her daughter, Ese, was allegedly
abducted by one Yinusa, aka Yellow, who is one
of her long standing customers.
Ese
Narrating the incident, the distraught mother
said, “When I came back, the elder brother of
Ese, Kevin, 16, said Ese had left the shop since
11am and had not returned. I enquired where
she could have gone, but he said he did not
know.
“From there, I started looking for her, asking
neighbours if they saw her, but they said they
did not. As she usually sold food to northern
artisans, I went to the place they usually
gathered to find out if they saw Ese. But by the
time I got there, they were in the mosque, so, I
had to go back.
“After some minutes, I sent my son back to the
place and directed that he should tell anybody
he saw there that I wanted to see Yinusa. As
the boy got there, one of them asked my son to
tell me to come. When I got there, he said
Yinusa, who is also called Yellow, told them he
had sold his commercial tricycle and had gone
home to Kano with my daughter, Ese. They told
me Yinusa said he was taking Ese home to
convert her to Islam to enable him to marry
her.”
One Mohammed (aka Daidi) reportedly informed
Oruru that Yinusa had taken Ese to Kano with
an intention to marry her. She was 13 years old
then.
Acting on the information, Oruru approached
one Dan Kano, who not only confirmed the
story, but also promised to take her to Kano to
recover her daughter.
But Dan Kano reneged on his promise and sent
one Rabiu to accompany the child’s mother to
Kano instead.
On August 14, the anguished mother set for
Kano. She and Rabiu arrived at the ancient city
after midnight. In the morning, Rabiu took Oruru
to the chief of a village in Tufa, Kura Local
Government Area of Kano State.
Narrating her anguish amid sobs, Rose said the
chief was furious with Rabiu for bringing her to
Kano. He told them that Ese had been
converted into Islam and renamed ‘Aisha.’ Not
only that, the 14-year-old was married and that
the child was no longer her daughter.
“He also informed us that Ese was in the
custody of the Emir of Kano, Sanusi Lamido
Sanusi, at the palace,” she stated.
Not cowed by the chief’s position, Oruru, in
company with Rabiu, approached the Emir of
Kano’s palace but met a stiff opposition by
many youths, who pushed them out of the
palace.
Oruru said Yinusa (the suspect), through phone
calls, informed her that he did not kidnap her
daughter as he took permission from one Dan
Kano before he abducted her.
Sensing the impossibility of seeing her daughter
or having an audience with the Emir of Kano,
Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, Oruru said she broke
down in tears and drew a lot of attention. On
hearing her cries, an unnamed elderly man
invited the police.
She added, “When the police arrived, they took
me to Kwani Police Station in Kano, where my
statement was taken and police officers
accompanied me first to the Emir’s palace but
we were prevented from entering the palace.
“The police then proceeded to the house of the
Galadima of Kano, who stated that he did not
know anything about the matter. The team
proceeded to see the adviser to the Emir, who
told them that he did not want to be involved in
the matter and then we went to the Secretary
to the Emir of Kano.
“The secretary informed us that the Chief of
Tufa village got an approval from Kura Police
Station to take the 14-year-old Ese to the Emir’s
Palace.
“They said Ese is now a convert of Islam and if
brought to her mother, she would not be able to
talk or touch her, otherwise, either she (the
mother) or Ese would die. He advised that we
waited till August 17 to see the Emir.”
Mrs. Oruru recounted that on August 17, she
was with the Divisional Crime Officer, a Police
Inspector from Kwani Police Station, and the
Chief of Tufa village at the palace where the
Emir of Kano sat in council.
“I saw my daughter being brought in a black
Sport Utility Vehicle with two police escorts and
Yinusa was also present. When the case was
mentioned, every other person was allowed
inside except me. When the DCO returned from
the Emir’s court, he informed me that the Emir
of Kano asked us to go to the Sharia Court,
which I objected to.”
Mrs. Oruru added that the police at Kwani,
thereafter, transferred the matter to the State
Criminal Investigation Department in Kano,
where she was asked to go back to Bayelsa and
report the matter to the Bayelsa State Police
Command.
She further said, “We returned to Bayelsa on
August 17 and we made a report at Ekeki Police
Station, Yenagoa, and the matter was later
transferred to State CID, Yenagoa.”
She stated that the police in Yenagoa made
some arrests including Dan Kano, and a trip was
embarked upon to Kano on September 2.
She said on the Kano trip were Dan Kano, K.C.
Dahiru (the chairman of the Hausa community
in Yenagoa), Mr. Charles Oruru (her husband)
and two police officers from the State CID.
She said, “The team reported at the Kwani
Police Station in Kano where another visit was
made to the Emir of Kano.
“The Emir informed them that he had since
August 26 sent a letter for the release of Ese to
her parents.”
Ese’s mother lamented that despite all the
efforts she, her husband, the police and others
had made, as of February 23, Ese had not been
released to them but still held hostage in Kano.
Ese’s father, Charles Oruru, struggled with tears
as he narrated the pain and anguish he had
gone through in trying to get his daughter back.
“We have tried all we could to get our daughter
released to no avail. I am appealing to the
Federal Government and the relevant authorities
to intervene in the matter to get my daughter
released. We do not want this to degenerate
into a tribal crisis.”
The Orurus, in a bid not to leave any stone
unturned, took the matter to non-governmental
organisations, Kindling Hope Across Nations
Initiative and Child Protection Network under the
auspices of the UNICEF.
On what the NGOs have done so far, the
Executive Director, KHAN Initiative, Mr. Kizito
Andah, said after receiving the case, the
organisation immediately swung into action by
formally informing the Department of State
Services.
He said several meetings were held in
December 2015 with officers of the DSS, noting
that the state security outfit made several
promises to secure the release of the victim,
but that up till date, Ese was still held hostage
by the perpetrators.
Andah, who is also the Secretary, Child
Protection Network, claimed that their
coordinator also spoke with the Inspector-
General of Police and the police boss gave his
word that the girl would be returned to her
parents. Yet, that had not been done.
He said, “On February 11, we also held a
meeting with the Commissioner of Police,
Bayelsa State Police command, on the above
subject matter and our grievances on the
attitude of some of the police officers, who had
earlier worked on the case and their failure to
secure the release of Ese were duly
communicated.
“We strongly believe that Ese Oruru has not only
been hypnotised but also recruited as a tool in
the hands of a fanatical Islamic group in Kano
State. Ese is only 14 years old and cannot give
informed consent to marriage and is still being
held hostage.
“Mr. and Mrs. Charles Oruru are petty traders
who are putting in all efforts to meet the needs
of their children. Securing the return of Ese
would not only reaffirm our strong desire to
continually protect our children, but also re-
emphasise and stamp our indelible position
against the acts of these culprits.”
Andah, therefore, called on all to join their
voices to prevail on the Kano State Government
and the Kano Emirate to urgently release Ese.
He demanded the prosecution of her abductors
under the appropriate law and jurisdiction,
saying the matter was of urgent national
security and public interest.
Corroborating the position of Andah, the
Chairperson, CPN, Mrs. Miriam Kombo-Eze, said
they wrote letters to and met with many
security agencies, including the Ijaw Youth
Council over the matter.
Kombo-Eze said, “The man that took away this
girl and his cohorts collect these girls, who are
underage children of 12 and 13 years from this
state, convert them to Muslims and their
parents can’t do anything about them.
“They take permission from their leaders here in
Bayelsa State. This is a national security
problem.”
She said most parents had lost their children in
similar circumstances and praised the parents
of Ese for pursuing the release of their
daughter.
She, therefore, urged parents to carefully
monitor the kind of people that visit their homes
and shops.
“Parents should be careful of the kind of
persons they welcome to their homes.
Everybody should be security conscious. We
should be careful of the people that are around
us. We are not trying to instigate anyone to
take the law into their hands, what we are
trying to do is to sensitise people to what is
going on in the state,” she counselled.
Responding to the incident, the Police Public
Relations Officer, Bayelsa State Police
Command, Mr. Asinim Butswat, said on
Thursday that it was a case of elopement, and
not abduction.
Butswat, who spoke in a telephone interview,
said based on their findings, the boy in question
(Yinusa) told the police that he and Ese had
been married.
But when reminded that Ese was only 14 years
old, and 13 when she was abducted, Butswat
said the police were of the position that the
issue of marriage did not arise in the matter.
He said the Bayelsa Command was working
closely with its Kano counterpart to secure the
release of the girl.
The police spokesman said, “Based on our initial
findings, it was not a case of abduction but that
of elopement. Ese eloped with the boy (Yinusa)
to Kano.
“Our operatives went for investigative activities
in Kano and the boy in question said they were
married. When our men went to the Sharia
Council to secure her release, the council said
they had not signed the necessary papers to let
her go.
“With the age of the girl, she is not of age for
marriage, so the issue of marriage does not
arise even though reports indicate that the girl
is happy being there.
“We want to assure the family that their
daughter will soon be released to them. We are
working closely with the Kano State Police
Command to secure her release.”
When SUNDAY PUNCH contacted the Police
Public Relations Officer, Kano State Command,
Magaji Majia, on the telephone, he said, “I have
been making enquiries in Kano State Police
Command; 72 police divisions, the state CID, the
gender violence section; we don’t have such a
case here in Kano.”
As of press time, the Turakin Kano, and Chief of
Staff of the Emir of Kano, Alhaji Mamuda
Sanusi, could not be reached as calls placed to
his telephone line did not connect, while text
messages sent to his line had yet to be replied
to.
Last Friday, a police source in Kano, who did
not want to be named because he was not
authorised to speak on the matter, confirmed to
one of our correspondents on the telephone that
Oruru was taken to the Emir’s palace sometime
last year.
The source said Yinusa had complained to the
Emir of Kano after his relations had been
arrested by the police, following complaints
from the girl’s parents.
“The matter was referred to us by the Emir of
Kano. The man said the girl had converted to
Islam and followed him to his hometown in
Kano. I saw the girl myself here at Zone 1
headquarters, but we did not do any
investigation on the matter.”
The source, however, did not mention the name
of the hometown, but stated that Oruru is with
Yinusa and his family in Kano.
“The Emir said that since she voluntarily said
she wanted to be a Muslim and had converted
to Islam, her parents should not force her, and
that even though she is a minor, she should be
allowed to practise whatever she wanted to
practise. It was the girl that followed the man;
she was not taken by force. Although, as a 13-
year-old then, she is a minor in the eyes of the
law; she has no consent. If she was an adult,
she has the free will to go wherever she wants
to go. But there was nothing like kidnapping.”
Additional report by ARUKAINO UMUKORO
Part 2 here: http://www.punchng.com/she-
must-have-been-sexually-violated-khan-initiati
Evil muslims perfectly following the sunnah of their criminal and demonic prophet. I will not advocate violence but atimes jungle justice pays when relevant authorities fail to do their jobs properly.
Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by tartar9(m): 6:56pm On Feb 29, 2016
true2god:
Evil muslims perfectly following the sunnah of their criminal and demonic prophet. I will not advocate violence but atimes jungle justice pays when relevant authorities fail to do their jobs properly.
only your crucified rapist arm-robber god kidnapped and raped little girls.what jungle 'justice' are you talking of; attacking innocent Hausa 'mallams',what's their business with the yinusa? who's now the evil person here.

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Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by true2god: 7:34pm On Feb 29, 2016
tartar9:

only your crucified rapist arm-robber god kidnapped and raped little girls.what jungle 'justice' are you talking of; attacking innocent Hausa 'mallams',what's their business with the yinusa? who's now the evil person here.
Kufar girls are fair games for devout muslims. Kidnapping and enslaving kufar girls sexually are part of the sunnah of the islamic prophet (what his right hand possesses). It is in your Sahih Bhukari hadith. Until the civil world world rise against this islamic savagery, muslims will never stop the kidnap of kufar girls.

In pakistan, sudan, iran and almost all the islamic hell holes, it is all about kidnappin and marry off kufar girl after she might been hypnotized. It is no secret.

The Israeli government apply jungle justice against the muslim barbarians, anytime they kidnap Israeli citizebs, and the result is phenomenal.
Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by tartar9(m): 8:42pm On Feb 29, 2016
true2god:
Kufar girls are fair games for devout muslims. Kidnapping and enslaving kufar girls sexually are part of the sunnah of the islamic prophet (what his right hand possesses). It is in your Sahih Bhukari hadith. Until the civil world world rise against this islamic savagery, muslims will never stop the kidnap of kufar girls.

In pakistan, sudan, iran and almost all the islamic hell holes, it is all about kidnappin and marry off kufar girl after she might been hypnotized. It is no secret.

The Israeli government apply jungle justice against the muslim barbarians, anytime they kidnap Israeli citizebs, and the result is phenomenal.
go and kidnap anybody in Saudi Arabia then and see what will happen to you.there is nothing 'justice' about what you are advocating.you're no less different from the terrorists you hate.

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Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by true2god: 11:30pm On Feb 29, 2016
tartar9:

go and kidnap anybody in Saudi Arabia then and see what will happen to you.there is nothing 'justice' about what you are advocating.you're no less different from the terrorists you hate.
I am not crazy to visit the largest prison on earth. Even Muslims, except for hajj, do not visit Saudi Arabia. 99% of muslims prefer kafir countries like the US, Germany, France, Canada, Britain, Australia, etc than that open air prison, that is Saudi Arabia.

No any sane Saudi barbarian will even kidnap any Israeli citizen, they know the consequences. The Saudis will never do anything that might disrupt their annual moneymaking machine, HAJJ. They are no fools.
Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by tartar9(m): 11:45pm On Feb 29, 2016
true2god:
I am not crazy to visit the largest prison on earth. Even Muslims, except for hajj, do not visit Saudi Arabia. 99% of muslims prefer kafir countries like the US, Germany, France, Canada, Britain, Australia, etc than that open air prison, that is Saudi Arabia.

No any sane Saudi barbarian will even kidnap any Israeli citizen, they know the consequences. The Saudis will never do anything that might disrupt their annual moneymaking machine, HAJJ. They are no fools.
yet 3million of your kaffirs are in the same Saudi Arabia undecided,35% of its population are foreigners.does non-muslims now only translates to israelis sad.jews aren't even recognized there.

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Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by Demmzy15(m): 11:52pm On Feb 29, 2016
true2god:
I am not crazy to visit the largest prison on earth. Even Muslims, except for hajj, do not visit Saudi Arabia. 99% of muslims prefer kafir countries like the US, Germany, France, Canada, Britain, Australia, etc than that open air prison, that is Saudi Arabia.

Don't you know how many of your kinsmen are in Saudi Arabia? Even wartorn Yemen, Yeebhoe people are there. Anofia!

No any sane Saudi barbarian will even kidnap any Israeli citizen, they know the consequences. The Saudis will never do anything that might disrupt their annual moneymaking machine, HAJJ. They are no fools.

Very dumb, how does this rubbish make sense?
Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by true2god: 12:03am On Mar 01, 2016
tartar9:

yet 3million of your kaffirs are in the same Saudi Arabia undecided.does non-muslims now only translates to israelis sad.jews aren't even recognized there.
I dont know where you get your fake data. Saudi arabia will never give non-muslim visa (except you are an expatriate that work for multinational oil firms). Non-muslim will be jailed or killed if he sets his foot on mecca or medina. Is that a country where sane people go, muslims inclusive, except you represent a big corporation?

If I present you a US visa and a saudi visa which one will you take? Even your sheik, imam and ayatolla will jump at the US visa over the land of your pedofile prophet mohammed.

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Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by true2god: 12:13am On Mar 01, 2016
Demmzy15:


Don't you know how many of your kinsmen are in Saudi Arabia? Even wartorn Yemen, Yeebhoe people are there. Anofia!



Very dumb, how does this rubbish make sense?
Except someone works for an oil company, no sane person will relocate to saudi arabia.

Ok, tell me where you think you can fit in in that uncivilized country where the government are still harvesting camel urine (for medication), where women cannot drive, where non-muslims cannot practice their religion freely, where hangs-men are advertised on a national newspaper, where woman are treated as animals, where beheadings are weekly carried out in public, where 80% of their men are addicted to pornography and yet ask women to where slave rags (burqa), etc.

Tell me where you can fit in in saudi arabia?
Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by tartar9(m): 12:33am On Mar 01, 2016
true2god:
i dont know where you get your fake data. Saudi arabia will never give non-muslim visa (except you are an expatriate that work for multinational oil firms). Non-muslim will be jailed or killed if he sets his foot on mecca or medina. Is that a country where sane people go, muslims inclusive, except you represent a big corporation?

If I present you a US visa and a saudi visa which one will you take? Even your sheik, imam and ayatolla will jump at the US visa over the land of my crucified god.
stop telling me what you think I or some sheik will do.Do you think their sheiks,imams and ayatollah's whom are far richer than your entire lineage combined can't secure a thousand American visa's undecided.non-muslims are simply not allowed to enter Mecca and Medina.You dont have to sound dramatic by creating your own imaginary punishment of 'getting killed'if found there.About 35% of Saudi Arabia's population are foreigners both Muslim and non-Muslim,most dont work in oil firms or do you want to tell me a multinational oil firm employs and brought all those millions of workers there? and I taught you said no Muslim goes there except for hajj sad

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Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by true2god: 6:29am On Mar 01, 2016
tartar9:

stop telling me what you think I or some sheik will do.Do you think their sheiks,imams and ayatollah's whom are far richer than your entire lineage combined can't secure a thousand American visa's undecided.non-muslims are simply not allowed to enter Mecca and Medina.You dont have to sound dramatic by creating your own imaginary punishment of 'getting killed'if found there.About 35% of Saudi Arabia's population are foreigners both Muslim and non-Muslim,most dont work in oil firms or do you want to tell me a multinational oil firm employs and brought all those millions of workers there? and I taught you said no Muslim goes there except for hajj sad
Its not a matter of being a rich imam, sheik and ayatolla, afterall over 90% of islamic clergy are poorer than church rat, except the ones in the arab gulf that enjoy a high govt patronage. I have seen many islamic clergy who wanted to move to the US with all their family and I wondered why not saudi arabia or Iran. You can never see any pastor who even dream of visiting the saudi (even in his dreams). What does that tell you?

Even if 35% of people in saudi arabia are non-citizens, as you claim, that 35% does not mean non-muslims. The fact still remains that if my name is David Peter, the saudis will never grant me entry visa into their country, except I represent a company's interest, and yet muslims will complain of being vetted in non-muslim countries.

I said no sane person will decide to relocate to saudi arabia where, on a weekly basis, people are beheaded on the street, women cannot drive, non-muslim have no religios freedom, where shia muslims are daily killed or harrassed by the sunni authorities, where shia mosques are bombbed periodically, where Jews will be killed on sight, where citizens spy on each other almost on a second basis, etc.

Is that not a prison country being fashioned in line with the sunnah of the islamic prophet?
Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by Demmzy15(m): 9:07am On Mar 01, 2016
true2god:
Except someone works for an oil company, no sane person will relocate to saudi arabia.

But you said nobody goes there, there are thousands of Nigerians there. Many westerners leave there, some US troops are stationed there. Stop making bogus claims.

Ok, tell me where you think you can fit in in that uncivilized country where the government are still harvesting camel urine (for medication),

How is using camel urine for medicine uncivilized? But you're OK with pornography, alcohol consumption which is the cause of most violence against women. That's civilization according to your right?!

where women cannot drive, where non-muslims cannot practice their religion freely, where hangs-men are advertised on a national newspaper, where woman are treated as animals,

Women not driving in saudi arabia has no religious backing, this is done based on the society and I hope you'll respect that. You say women are treated as animals? angry Pornography is not acted in saudi arabia, because this is thing that humiliates women the most, men like you you doing nasty things on women, this is what is done by Christians and the West.

where beheadings are weekly carried out in public, [u]where 80% of their men are addicted to pornography [/u]and yet ask women to where slave rags (burqa), etc.

Those who are executed are drug offenders and terrorists, if saudi arabia doesn't curb this you still be the same people complaining they're harboring terrorists. Concerning the underlined, your problem is that you just formulate percentage from your big flat'head and assume it's a fact. I'm challenging you to prove that 80% of men in saudi arabia are addicted to pornography, if you can't may Allaah's wrath be upon you!

Tell me where you can fit in in saudi arabia?

I can fit in virtually anywhere in saudi arabia, I can get a job there. I can study, become a citizen and then join the army. I can do anything there, idiot! [/font]
Re: Kano Man Abduct A Bayelsa Girl & Married Her. What Are The Police Doing? by tartar9(m): 7:09pm On Mar 02, 2016
true2god:
Its not a matter of being a rich imam, sheik and ayatolla, afterall over 90% of islamic clergy are poorer than church rat, except the ones in the arab gulf that enjoy a high govt patronage. I have seen many islamic clergy who wanted to move to the US with all their family and I wondered why not saudi arabia or Iran. You can never see any pastor who even dream of visiting the saudi (even in his dreams). What does that tell you?

Even if 35% of people in saudi arabia are non-citizens, as you claim, that 35% does not mean non-muslims. The fact still remains that if my name is David Peter, the saudis will never grant me entry visa into their country, except I represent a company's interest, and yet muslims will complain of being vetted in non-muslim countries.

I said no sane person will decide to relocate to saudi arabia where, on a weekly basis, people are beheaded on the street, women cannot drive, non-muslim have no religios freedom, where shia muslims are daily killed or harrassed by the sunni authorities, where shia mosques are bombbed periodically, where Jews will be killed on sight, where citizens spy on each other almost on a second basis, etc.

Is that not a prison country being fashioned in line with the sunnah of the islamic prophet?
claming what you saw as usual.is it the poor ones that will be searching for visa's in the first place,shouldn't it be the ones that can afford it? assuming you are correct.
I said 35% of foreigners live there,that's about 10million of its population out of which 3million are non-Muslim mainly doing menial jobs and they do not come in any company's interest,yes they grant non-Muslim visa's.
the Saudi Arabia you are talking of is far better than most countries including the one you are in be it in terms of security,education,health,GDP per capita,life expectancy.... the list goes on.

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