ValentineMary:
In the books of Matthew and Mark in the Bible,
there is a rather strange story about Jesus
having a bit of a conflict with....a fig tree. Figs
are yummy and all, but this is pretty extreme.
This fig tree didn't have any fruit on it -
because it wasn't actually fig season yet - and
Jesus was hungry. So what's a hungry god-man
to do? Curse the tree so it will never bear fruit
again of course! Damn tree.
* Matthew 21:18-20 Early in the morning, as
Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was
hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went
up to it but found nothing on it except leaves.
Then he said to it, "May you never bear fruit
again!" Immediately the tree withered. When
the disciples saw this, they were amazed.
* Mark 11:12-14 The next day as they were
leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the
distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if
it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found
nothing but leaves, because it was not the
season for figs. Then he said to the tree, "May
no one ever eat fruit from you again." And his
disciples heard him say it.
Jesus was apparently a pretty cryptic guy - or
the people writing down his words were - either
way, there are quite a few stories like this in the
Bible (and that's excluding the book of
Revelation which is its own brand of crazy). But
God was downright sadistic. Let's take a look at
some lessons found in the Bible that most
people probably didn't learn in Sunday School.


1. God has a thing with sex and genitals
> Maybe it's because he doesn't get to have it,
but according to the Bible, God uses sex (and
genitals) to control or punish people more than
once. Using rape, incest and circumcision to
teach lessons would not be allowed with
humans, but apparently it's totally cool for God
to do it.
God established the practice of male
circumcision as proof of the people's willingness
to obey him pretty early on.
* Genesis 17:10-12 This is my agreement with
you and all your descendants, which you must
obey: Every male among you must be
circumcised.Cut away your foreskin to show that you are
prepared to follow the agreement between me
and you. From now on when a baby boy is eight
days old, you will circumcise him. This includes
any boy born among your people or any who is
your slave, who is not one of your descendants.
> David, the future king and the man chosen by
God to defeat the Philistines (of David and
Goliath fame), went out with his men and killed
200 Philistines and "collected" their foreskins,
then used them as the payment for marrying
King Saul's daughter, Michal. Now that's what I
call an engagement present.
* 1 Samuel 18:24-26 When Saul's servants told
him what David had said, Saul said, "Tell David,
'The king doesn't want money for the bride. All
he wants is a hundred Philistine foreskins to get
even with his enemies.'" Saul planned to let the
Philistines kill David. When Saul's servants told
this to David, he was pleased to become the
king's son-in-law. So he and his men went out
and killed two hundred Philistines. David brought
all their foreskins to Saul so he could be the
king's son-in-law. Then Saul gave him his
daughter Michal for his wife.
> God commanded rape in so many places in
the Bible it's hard to pick just one, but a
passage in 2 Samuel is pretty bad and is a great
example of God using rape and child murder as
a punishment.
* 2 Samuel 12:11-14 "This is what the Lord
says: 'I am bringing trouble to you from your
own family. While you watch, I will take your
wives from you and give them to someone who
is very close to you. He will have sexual
relations with your wives, and everyone will
know it. You had sexual relations with
Bathsheba in secret, but I will do this so all the
people of Israel can see it.'" Then David said to
Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord."
Nathan answered, "The Lord has taken away
your sin. You will not die. But what you did
caused the Lord's enemies to lose all respect for
him. For this reason the son who was born to
you will die."
> God even commanded a raped woman to
marry her attacker.
* Deuteronomy 22:28-29 If a man meets a
virgin who is not engaged to be married and
forces her to have sexual relations with him and
people find out about it, the man must pay the
girl's father about one and one-fourth pounds
of silver. He must also marry the girl, because
he has dishonored her, and he may never
divorce her for as long as he lives.


2. ...and on that note, it's pretty clear that God
really hates women... A LOT
> Aside from all the raping, even a quick reading
of the Bible reveals that God hates women. This
can be easily explained using cultural context
and by looking at who actually wrote the Bible
and when - but it seems if God is perfect, he
would teach people not to be sexist a-holes. But
in both the New and Old Testaments, the Bible
teaches us otherwise. In 1 Corinthians 14 and 1
Timothy 2, women are told not to talk and Titus
is practically a how-to manual on being a good,
quiet and submissive Christian woman. In fact,
most of the epistles are totally sexist.
* 1 Corinthians 14:34-36 women should keep
quiet in the church meetings. They are not
allowed to speak, but they must yield to this
rule as the law says. If they want to learn
something, they should ask their own husbands
at home. It is shameful for a woman to speak in
the church meeting. Did God's teaching come
from you? Or are you the only ones to whom it
has come?
* 1 Timothy 2:9-12 Also, women should wear
proper clothes that show respect and self-
control, not using braided hair or gold or pearls
or expensive clothes. Instead, they should do
good deeds, which is right for women who say
they worship God. Let a woman learn by
listening quietly and being ready to cooperate in
everything. But I do not allow a woman to teach
or to have authority over a man, but to listen
quietly,


3. He also doesn't seem too fond of the unborn,
infants and children
> Not only does the Bible tell of infanticide,
abortion and child murder, it actually tells us
God, or his representatives at his behest,
commanded it. Not cool God, not cool atall.
The prophet Hosea spoke of pregnant women
being ripped open and children being torn to
pieces because the nation of Israel had "fought
against God."
* Hosea 13:16 The nation of Israel will be
ruined, because it fought against God. The
people of Israel will die in war; their children
will be torn to pieces, and their pregnant
women will be ripped open."
> And Jeremiah told of a time when God would
destroy the city and make people so hungry that
they would eat their kids.
* Jeremiah 19:9 An enemy army will surround
the city and will not let anyone go out to get
food. I will make the people so hungry that they
will eat the bodies of their own sons and
daughters, and then they will begin to eat each
other.'
As an interesting side note, the historian Flavius
Josephus told of Jews starving in Jerusalem
during the Roman siege of 70 CE who actually
did eat their own children.
...and perhaps one of the most disturbing is
Psalm (a song of celebration) 137 in which the
psalmist is proclaiming retribution by smashing
babies against rocks. Very uplifting.
* Psalm 137:8-9 People of Babylon, you will be
destroyed. The people who pay you back for
what you did to us will be happy. They will grab
your babies and throw them against the rocks.


4. When God likes you, you can get away with
ANYTHING
> King David, Cain, all the prophets, all the
apostles, Noah, Adam, King Saul...they all
committed atrocious acts of violence, greed,
sexism, racism, etc. You name it, at least one of
them did it, often multiple times. And yet the
Bible tells us God blessed them with money
and/or power and the apostles were the ones
who essentially established the Christian
religion...hmmm...


5. When God doesn't like you, you're probably
dead, and your death will probably be creative
> Lot's wife turned into a salty version of her
former self just because she looked back on her
hometown from which she was fleeing
because...well...because God was pissed off and
was destroying it with burning sulfur.
* Genesis 19:26 Atthat point Lot's wife looked back. When she did,
she became a pillar of salt.
> People got swallowed up by giant cracks in the
earth.
* Numbers 16:32 The earth opened and
swallowed them and all their families. All
Korah's men and everything they owned went
down.
> 42 Kids got mauled by two mother bears
because they mocked the baldness of one of the
prophets (no joke).
* 2 Kings 2:23-24 From there Elisha went up to
Bethel. On the way some boys came out of the
city and made fun of him. They said to him, "Go
up too, you baldhead! Go up too, you
baldhead!" Elisha turned around, looked at
them, and put a curse on them in the name of
the Lord. Then two mother bears came out of
and tore 42 of the boys to pieces.

Genoma:

Chairman, i don't understand your standpoint, you claim you are an atheist and yet you claim a non-existent God is wicked. Are you not rather contradicting yourself. You are beginning to make me believe about what Christians do say about atheist arguing the non-existent because of fear of His existence. If you know you are an atheist, don't argue on the goodness or wickedness of God, but rather provide an argument of His nonexistence, otherwise you will be seen as someone acknowledging His existence, but rather having a personal issues with him.

ValentineMary:

When I talk on the wicked nature of God, I don't say what i believe rather what xtians believe. I am bemused how one can call him all loving after all this.

Splinz:
ValentineMary my brother, it's been long I came across your usual 'attacks'. How's your end, bro?

Seeing you're still in the business of striking with your Maker, I'm marveled at such devotion to Him, finding it rather strange that you've talked this much about a Being you claimed doesn't even exist. And I wondered what's that to you? If I were you as an atheist, I'll rather devote my time towards propagating atheism as a belief system worth embracing.

It's okay bro. Only that you have to do what you're doing while it's still day, for night comes when no one can't do anything. Cheers!

Actually I criticise religion because it has rid us of a better world. Look at the 9/11, crusade, inqusition, honour killing, etc. Religion has destroyed our world offering us another one when we die. But how can I trust them with my eternity when they can't take care of my present

Presbulg:
So nobody's going to defend all these allegations ?

Splinz:


Only that you have to do what you're doing while it's still day, for night comes when no one can't do anything. Cheers!

Touchnot01:
All atheists should keep this in mind.

Atheism has rid our world of far more souls. Religion has fueled the progress of science and technology. Atheism has done nothing for humanity except attacks against christianity.