SleekMallam:
A link to the thread please so we can understand where you are coming from. Our people said that a man can not be shaved in his absence.

A7:

Below is a video posted by premiumtimes:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPh3ecmkf7Q

In the video Ese's steadfast position was the police must leave them alone.

Transcript:

Man talking: Ka qirawota mutafi.
English: Tell her to come, so we can go.

Woman to reluctant yunusa: Kanaso su damqeka su sakaka a motarsu? Miye yake damunka.
English: do you want them to force you into their car, what's wrong with you.

Man talking: Ba abunda za'ayi ma mallam dalla kashiga in zaka shiga.
English: Nobody will harm you just get into the car mallam.

Ese: Shi bazai shiga wannan motan ba.
English: He must not enter this car (police van).

Man to ese: Kizo muje dake za'a tafi
English: please come, we are going with you

Ese to the man: You know you wanted to do this to him that's why you said we should come, you know you want to do this to him. (Sobbing).

If indeed she's abducted, she wouldn't be seen opposing these men and even crying so that this alleged abductor of hers will be left alone.

And Ese's mother who claimed to not have any knowledge that the duo are lovers contradicted herself when she went searching for Yunusa in different places after Ese wasn't seen.

Yunusa's statement in court was, even the mother knew about their relationship and had given her consent about the elopement.

There is also a report about Ese saying her age in 2015 is 17.

Could any parent allow his son to bring a girl he kidnapped to his house talkless of supporting him in marrying her?

Didn't Yunusa's father said the boy has been with the Oruru's for about a decade in Bayelsa? And with Ese willfully coming to Kano with Yunusa, don't you think she contributed in getting herself converted and married off??

2sexycom:
check progressive01 last topic created.

mynd1:
Reading..
*modify*
Op,No northerner supported what Yunusa did to Ose ruru,what happened was very unfortunate and sad. But what we are saying is,If Yunusa were to be a southerner will hypocrites like you be shouting up and down,creating thousands of threads Some days back a Pastor/Deacon rape a 9years old girl where were you? Had it been that man was a northerner,people like you will not let's us hear word. Until you learn not to be sentimental and bias in your analysis then I will take you serious,for now u r nothing but a big Hypocrite. Thank you.

mynd1:
Reading..
*modify*
Op,No northerner supported what Yunusa did to Ose ruru,what happened was very unfortunate and sad. But what we are saying is,If Yunusa were to be a southerner will hypocrites like you be shouting up and down,creating thousands of threads Some days back a Pastor/Deacon rape a 9years old girl where were you? Had it been that man was a northerner,people like you will not let's us hear word. Until you learn not to be sentimental and bias in your analysis then I will take you serious,for now u r nothing but a big Hypocrite. Thank you.

vedaxcool:
Once again the op applies the same lying tetechnique by assigning opinions not held by northerners and then go ahead and claim by his own falsehood that northerners are bad people. Thi is utterly disgraceful to say the least.

SeverusSnape:


Another question is, What would have happened if the girl abducted was a muslim and the guy a Christian?... Your guess is as good as mine, They would have gone on a killing spree.

peacengine:
@OP, why are you trying to reason with the unreasonable?

carinmom:
2sexycom, I'm sure my only offense in your eyes is for saying the truth and you found that unacceptable because you are a first class bigot who has a strong aversion to the truth.

Keep all the insults and unprintable names that you always call me in every thread coming and i will not stop from getting you banned.

You are not worthy of my time that's why i always ignore your rantings.

carinmom:
2sexycom, I'm sure my only offense in your eyes is for saying the truth and you found that unacceptable because you are a first class bigot who has a strong aversion to the truth.

Keep all the insults and unprintable names that you always call me in every thread coming and i will not stop from getting you banned.

You are not worthy of my time that's why i always ignore your rantings.

2sexycom:
I was perusing the politics section yesterday when I came across a thread by progressive01. Though the content was well written by someone who seem intelligent and well read, but I was left disappointed after reading.

I was disappointed because his article, though rich, share same ideology of most Northern illitrates. I will forgive an ignorant illitrate than I would to someone of his calibre.

Despite my long stand as an agitator for a united Nigeria, I broke off that journey after it became apparent that learned Northerners are highly supportive of the different schemes orchestrated by their kinsmen.

Our education is suppose to liberate us from old ways and reform us into a better personality, but if we still clinch to old and primitive ways, then whatever education acquired is a complete waste.

I can't really pin point whether Northerners are deliberately feigning ignorance, or it's ignorance at play, both or sheer wickedness. But all the same, the south are not fools. I was a pro "united Nigeria" but not anymore. It took the case of Ese Oruru to make me see whom I have been co-habiting with. It took utterances of Northerners on Nairaland concerning the Ese Oruru to make me see we are NOT one we will never be and I am sure many are gradually taking u-turn--our ideologies widely varies and can never homogeneously mix. I can not live with a people who think they have the sole monopoly to oppress others.

What is my point exactly?

From what I can gather from that thread and other comments made by other Northern Muslims such as carinmom (this one claimed that Yunusa is innocent and Ese is guilty) and 9jjj (he said he thank God Ese is pregnant because it was a case of "luff", you people are trying to justify your wicked way by making reference to what happens down south. Good.

Each time this issue surface for discussions, you Northern Muslims are quick to reference to the fact that after all young girls sleep around in their teens down south. We are ALL aware of that. You don't need to tell us what we know. It does not mean it is right. But I also want you Northern Muslims to know that you are not exempted from such acts so stop acting like you are holier than the rest regions of Nigeria. If a survey is carried out among Norther Muslims, I am more than 100% sure that quite a lot of your teens have been forked pretty well. So please shove that your holier than thou self down your throats.

You people are very good at hiding your deeds because of the strong UNITY among you lots. I never knew about the captivation of christian girls and forceful conversion into Muslim had been going on for decades, until now. How do you explain that to me, Mr Holier than thou? I am very sure thousands of other Nigerians were unaware as well. This is where the South are making a grave mistake and why I call them fools.

In that thread, most Northern Muslims claimed Pastors and others rape girls etc. We are well aware of that but one thing you Northern Muslim have refused to accept is the series of arrest that follows through when they are caught.

I have some questions for you all.

1. How many of your Northern brothers have we EVER heard of being arrested until the Ese Oruru sage surfaced? Thank God for social media

2. Why do you use the wrongs of others to justify what you do in the North? We down south condemn rape and that is why they are arrested when caught. Is it right for me to convert your girls to christian because you people are doing same? Is it right to kill Northerners because Northerners are killing others, be it Bokoharam or Fulani herdmen?

3. Progressive01, 9jjj and carinmom and other Northern Muslims, will you allow me to take your child, whether love or not, bring her down south and convert her to a christian?


I need answers to these 3 questions.


Final words, if you were privileged to get education and even privileged to have access to the Internet (I know a Northern Muslim friend who does not use social media like facebook for some islamic reasons but you *. are on nairaland and can I say there is hyprocrisy somewhere among you ), you should use your education to help alleviate your region before it gets out of hand such that the entire Nigeria will see you all as evil among us. It has started already in case you are not aware.

Use your education teach your people what is wrong is wrong, not trying to use wrong to justify wrong, as in the case of comparing what happens in the south as against the North in terms of sexual engagement of teens. The North isn't exempted anyway and only a fool will think Northern Muslims don't fork their teens and deflower them. Nobody holy pass. But it does not mean it's right.

These days, more than ever, I have become very apprehensive, conscious and mentally alert around Northerners and I told my friend more than once that they had better be VERY alert because I see them as major okada riders at Ajah axis of Lekki, majority who occupy uncompleted buildings. No thanks to the nonsense you lots spew here as a justification for the barbaric activities your brothers engage in.

2sexycom:
b,ro, I just want them to know we understand their scheme. Seriously, the North is the problem of this country.

theshadyexpress:


you took your time to write all these gibberish and yet only ended exposing the endemic bigotry in your DNA

let me say this here without fear of favour or discrimination cos this is something we have to stop shying from, the hypocrisy among muslims is alarming and i'll state why

1)when suicide bombers in the name of allah kill people rather than muslims condemning the act and consoling the victims all you hear them do is try to exonerate islam from it

2)they spend more energy defending Islam from been labelled a terror prone religion than they do trying to educate fellow muslims on the true teachings of islam

3)they condemn any muslim that converts to other religions to death (apostacy) but yet celebrate others converting to Islam.

4)they frown against any other religion in any part of the holy land (saudi-arabia) but yet there is a mosque in the vatican and in any other part of the world.

5) they still hold on to a lot of ancient and archaic practices that ordinarily civilization should have wiped out.

muslims have to understand that the principle of live and let live has come to stay and the earlier they embrace it the better for all of them, i personally have a lot of muslim friends as a matter of fact my best friend is a muslim but it is worthy of note that although we discuss about a lot of things i dare not allow myself indulge myself in any discussion that has to do with religion with him cos his disposition alone towards such is carries a lot of violent anticedents.

dear muslims, the world dont hate you, the world only wants you to understand that not everyone can have and share same beliefs and ideologies but that does not stop them from living together.

many muslims are beginning to understand this but thats just a drop in the ocean. muslim leaders should indeed start investing their energies in educatiing their followers on the true tenets of islam so we non-muslims can begin top agree that indeed islam is a religion of peace not by what the preachers say but by what we see.

thank you

9jii:

Your stand of supporting a United Nigeria was never true.
Trying to impose your nonsense believe will never ever work on us.
Your concept of what is education is your flaws, you are totally relying on what other people choose for u to behave. Because you abandoned true God.

Your people failure in parenting will continue to produce more eses.
We ll never care what you're saying or believed in.
Our ways ll always be our only way.

2sexycom:
Good, nobody is forcing you to deviate from your ways. Just don't impose your ways on others. That is what we are asking for. STOP abducting our girls and forcefully converting them into backward religion that has become cancer to the entire world. And mark word, the day a Northern tries such with any member of my family, no matter how extended, as long as I am alive, I will make sure he regrets ever crossing that line.

Your believes are as nonsense your ravaged region in the North. Look who is talking of poor parentage and you people have the highest level of illiterates. If you have a good grasp of what parenting is all about, I am sure we won't have bokoharam destroying the lives of innoncent people. We won't have fulani herdmen killing people and stealing what does not belong to them, if you people know what good parenting is, your people won't be scattered across the country begging for alms. the current state of your people clearly shows have no idea what parenting is all about. So you are not in a good position to talk about good parenting. Please shut that latrine you call mouth.

lexiconkabir:
2sexycom and theshadyexpress, one person deceiving himself.

SeverusSnape:
Leave those ones alone, They are irredeemable. I wasn't surprised that thread was created by Progressive01. They, he especially, Have a penchant for justifying one crime with another.

Another question is, What would have happened if the girl abducted was a muslim and the guy a Christian?... Your guess is as good as mine, They would have gone on a killing spree.

It's a shame.