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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by TrajansKong: 10:19pm On Apr 03, 2016 |
There is nothing to interpret. The truth is there for all to see. Put away your mortal feelings and thoughts and FEAR HIM in every waking moment. Prepare ye, or face his judgement in the unending fire. Stop thinking, mortals.
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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by TrajansKong: 10:23pm On Apr 03, 2016 |
Standing in true faith with the god of our people! Soon we will be gathered up and rewarded amongst the most faithful. Naija, we hail thee O!
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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:23pm On Apr 03, 2016 |
TrajansKong - your sarcasm is dry and unwitty . Try again 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Nobody: 2:51am On Apr 04, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:It's too bad OLAADEGBU never came, he would have given more substance and direction to your arguments. |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:54am On Apr 04, 2016 |
Muafrika2: He is a proponent of your the-members-of-the-Trinity-are-not-the-same-in-rank concept , I think . But dear friend , dont you see that Christ is indeed equal to Yahweh and anything short postulates that they are different Gods - a team or pantheon of Gods |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by malvisguy212: 4:15pm On Apr 04, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:perfect reply bro. KingEbukasBlog:perfect reply bro. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Nobody: 4:18pm On Apr 04, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: They are of one mind so the idea of a pantheon is not even possible. So what would the picture of the trinity be in your perception? |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Scholar8200(m): 4:52pm On Apr 04, 2016 |
Let's stay with Scripture there are no ranks nor division of labour in the Godhead. Hence GOD was fully involved in The Incarnation of Christ, and is fully involved in our salvation! To establish ranks is to shift perilously toward Gnosticism (the sort that Paul sought to refute when he wrote Epistle to the Colossians by Inspiration). Any reference to the Father being greater than the Son etc is usually against the backdrop, and within the context of His incarnation and the purpose thereof. Ordinarily, the use of Father and Son was clearly understood to mean equality: [size=14pt]18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God John 5:18 [/size] (It was this Equality that He gave up temporarily in His Incarnation as Phil 2:6 shows.) Now they realised Christ used the Father-Son reference with a different/distinct connotation because they did not level the same accusation against themselves when they said thus: Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God John 8:41 IT IS A ONENESS THAT WAS SEPARATED ONCE: WHEN JESUS BORE OUR SINS ON THE CROSS. (This was the real purpose of the agony in Gethesmane) The Word was God and was with the Father In the Beginning; and the Word became Flesh. The Spirit came upon the Word after He became Flesh and thus was Indwelt by the Father Who did The Works but By The Son being made Flesh in the Power of the Spirit! Now, The Father Indwelt The Son Who came Not in His Own Name but in The Name of The Father! And The Son testified that He cast out devils by the Spirit! All through, the Son's Divinity NEVER featured! Why? He came shorn of ALL His Distinctiveness and manifested ALL that the Father was pleased to manifest,of Himself, by Him hence the saying,"I can do nothing of Myself". Did the Father live His Throne then? NO! After the baptism of Jesus and on the mount of transfiguration, The Father spoke from Heaven(He is Omnipresent). 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Jessicha(f): 5:22pm On Apr 04, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: rubbbishhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Jesus refer to the Father as MY GOD!!! , That clearly tells you he is under the authority of his father " God { the Father} is the head of Christ " 1 corinthians 11:3 , headship denotes authority over Christ . |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:50pm On Apr 04, 2016 |
Jessicha: Na wa oo . I just said that the verse addresses the dual-natured Christ - human and divine . Obviously the Father is now greater because his human nature would limit his divinity . Do you realize that if Yahweh is greater than Christ then you have two different gods who just work as a team |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:51pm On Apr 04, 2016 |
malvisguy212: Thanks man |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:58pm On Apr 04, 2016 |
Muafrika2: They are separate entities each with their own mind but they are of "one mind", in unity of purpose and being. One being existing as three entities . 1 Corinthians 2 : 14-16 14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 15 The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. 16 “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ. Romans 8:27 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God. Even when Jesus was praying prior to his death on the cross he asked God if He is willing to let the cup pass him yet not his will but God's will be done Luke 22 : 41-42 41And He withdrew from them about a stone's throw, and He knelt down and began to pray, 42saying, "Father, if You are willing, remove this cup from Me; yet not My will, but Yours be done." |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Jessicha(f): 8:10pm On Apr 04, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: the bold expose your ignorance , the father is now greater ? now greater ? you mean the Father is not greater even before sending Christ to earth as human ? rubbish before Jesus even came to earth , the Father has always been greater , Christ was his messenger { Malachi 3:1} . |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:15pm On Apr 04, 2016 |
Jessicha: That messenger is John the Baptist . That was Christ talking . Or didn't John the Baptist pave way for Christ I do pontificate - I am not proud of this - but not ignorantly . |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Jessicha(f): 8:21pm On Apr 04, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: hahahaha open your bible to Malachi 3:1 , who is the MESSENGER of the covenant ? |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:46pm On Apr 04, 2016 |
Jessicha: John the Baptist ! |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Jessicha(f): 7:32am On Apr 05, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: ebukaaaa. , John the baptist is the messenger of the covenant!! must you deny clear facts ? "See, I am going to send My messenger, and he will clear the way before Me. [size=25] Then [/size] the Lord you seek will suddenly come to His temple , the Messenger of the covenant you desire --see , He is coming," says the LORD of Hosts. " John the baptist is the Lord u seek ? °°°°°°°° Isaiah 53:11 “He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous SERVANT justify many ; for he shall bear their iniquities.” boldly written , Christ is a servant even before coming to earth !!! |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:54pm On Apr 05, 2016 |
Jessicha: Sister Jessicha , there is a comma separating "Then the Lord you seek will suddenly come to His temple" and "the Messenger of the covenant you desire " . You need to be careful of these things . John The Baptist came to prepare the way for the Lord Mathew 3 : 1-3 3 In those days John the Baptist came, preaching in the wilderness of Judea 2 and saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.” 3 This is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah: People have that wrong perception that Yahweh alone was involved through out the Old testament . Malachi 3 : 1 |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Jessicha(f): 7:31pm On Apr 05, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: I know John cleared the way for the messiah , that's clear from the first two lines "See, I am going to send My messenger, and he will clear the way before Me." that's clear , but note the next sentence " THEN, the Lord you seek will suddenly come to His temple , the Messenger of the covenant you desire --see , He is coming," says the LORD of Hosts. " THEN introduced the Lord we seek whom is the messenger of the covenant. °°°°°°°° AGAIN Isaiah 53:11 “He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous SERVANT justify many ; for he shall bear their iniquities.” boldly written , Christ is a servant even before coming to earth !!!, Or do u deny that truth clearly stated in Isaiah 53:11 ? |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:50pm On Apr 05, 2016 |
Jessicha: I like your resilience - you always come back stronger after each blow 1. Jesus has two natures - divine and human Colossians 2:9
2. Jesus was made under The Law Galatians 4:4
3. Jesus was for a while lower than the angels Hebrews 2:9
With the above , we can understand that Matthew 20:28 28 just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” In reference to his mission on earth , he was seen as the servant of the Lord . Muslims also think Jesus was a prophet because of that verse I think |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by gatiano(m): 8:07pm On Apr 05, 2016 |
The Throne of God is within the Soul. God sits on that throne within the soul. Our purpose on earth is to become God, To be this God, we have to commence a journey. Journey to where? To to within! Anything outside that is a journey far away from God. The head (Ori) is the heaven, the foot is the earth. The sphinx in Egypt also signifies that. The body of a jackal (earth/lowerself)- animalistic, To the journey upwards to the head(The head of an African person dressed like a King)-The Godself. |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Jessicha(f): 8:30pm On Apr 05, 2016 |
@ kingebukasblog KingEbukasBlog: but how exactly does colosian 2:9 prove Jesus have two natures ? pls explain. cos col 2:10 proves we have same fullness .. am wondering if we also have two natures
can you pls stick to the topic ! no one asks u this , you are probably looking for ways to evade facts . owo ti ba e
very good you ebuka admits , he was seen as a SERVANT Years before he even came to earth , !! do you now admit the Father has always been greater ? |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:36pm On Apr 05, 2016 |
@ Sister Jessicha ... Are you a christian ? |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:46am On Apr 06, 2016 |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:39am On Apr 06, 2016 |
Jessicha: No |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:10pm On Apr 24, 2016 |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukaNaija: 11:46pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
Nice thread |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukaNaija: 2:39pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
Cool thread |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukaNaija: 3:17pm On Jun 19, 2016 |
Cc : lalasticlala |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukaNaija: 8:54pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukaNaija: 11:01am On Dec 15, 2016 |
Read the Op to find out |
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:53am On Dec 15, 2016 |
cc : lalasticlala |
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