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Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Rexyl(m): 10:25pm On Mar 22, 2016
politricks:
@Rexyl
Come on shut up your mouth with all these redemption, love, peace hullabaloo because they will not save you. You said there is no confusion in christianity regards christmas and yet different christian churches doesn't celebrate the day e.g jehovah witness and co. I don't really have problem with you celebrating your s.t.u.p.e.e.d god but why fix it on a day ancient idol worshippers also honour their god e.g the roman pagan religion, greek pagan religion, egyptian pagan religion e.t.c. Fact is christianity has more idol worship than any religion in the world.

1. The bible does not recognise christmas, christmas tree, valentine e.t.c

2. The bible did not direct christians to use the cross as its symbol.

3. The word 'christian' or 'christianity' is not in the bible. Hell the word 'bible' is not in the bible.

4. The bible did not tell you to create and image of jesus and worship it(if it is even the original image of jesus it is even better).

Now let's see what Deuteronomy 18:9 has to say:
“When you come into the land
that the Lord your God is giving
you, you shall not learn to follow
the abominable practices of
those nations."
You f.o.o.l.s have a truckload of logs in your eyes and you are attempting to remove the toothpick in someone else's eye.Even your other minions have avoided replying me but here you are defending your SCAM of a religion.

Exposing ignorance in annoyance can't take you anywhere as you couldn't find the means to discredit the truth and thwart Christian faith.

Go and read when Christ followers were called Christians and what made them earned the name - being christ-like; they were not called the name for being violent and discredited people.

You still have long way to go, just let be doing it in part!

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Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 10:51pm On Mar 22, 2016
Rexyl:


Exposing ignorance in annoyance can't take you anywhere as you couldn't find the means to discredit the truth and thwart Christian faith.

Go and read when Christ followers were called Christians and what made them earned the name - being christ-like; they were not called the name for being violent and discredited people.

You still have long way to go, just let be doing it in part!
And that was the only thing you could pick from my post. Address my other points because it seems you are the only one that here that knows how to defend your religion. Your other supporters are avoiding my posts. Probably they are on their way to question their pastors.
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by checkolatunji: 10:58pm On Mar 22, 2016
lordnicklaus:
CONFUSION IN THE QURAN

Below are proofs to the confusion


1. THE QURAN DOESN'T EVEN KNOW MARY'S LINEAGE


At length she brought (the babe) to her
people, carrying him (in her arms), They said:
"O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou
brought! "O sister of Aaron, your father was
not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman
unchaste!"
-- Sura 19:27-28



And Mary, the daughter of `Imran, ...
-- Sura 66:12



The Quran confuses Mary the mother of Jesus with Mary (Miriam) the sister of Aaron, daughter of Amram.....

The Quran has committed multiple errors with the above verses

1st error: Mary, sister of Aaron and Mary mother of Jesus are two different people.
2nd error: Mary the sister of Aaron lived 1,500 years before Mary mother of Jesus...
3rd error: If Mary mother of Jesus is the same as Mary the sister of Aaron and daughter of Amram, then that also makes her a sister of Moses, so the Quran is saying Moses is Jesus' uncle. Mofo o!

You get sense @all? Must you fabricate lies nii? Where you take get all this rubbish wey you dey spill out?

Ogbeni go take your usual Tramadol make you go dull on top your bed. Dumb Skull
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Nobody: 11:28pm On Mar 22, 2016
checkolatunji:


You get sense @all? Must you fabricate lies nii? Where you take get all this rubbish wey you dey spill out?

Ogbeni go take your usual Tramadol make you go dull on top your bed. Dumb Skull


You can confirm it from your newspaper called Quran. If Mary the mother of Jesus is Aaron's sister, that makes her Moses' sister since Moses and Aaron are brothers. So, the Quran is indirectly saying that Moses is Jesus' uncle.
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 11:35pm On Mar 22, 2016
lordnicklaus:
CONFUSION IN THE QURAN

Below are proofs to the confusion


1. THE QURAN DOESN'T EVEN KNOW MARY'S LINEAGE


At length she brought (the babe) to her
people, carrying him (in her arms), They said:
"O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou
brought! "O sister of Aaron, your father was
not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman
unchaste!"
-- Sura 19:27-28



And Mary, the daughter of `Imran, ...
-- Sura 66:12



The Quran confuses Mary the mother of Jesus with Mary (Miriam) the sister of Aaron, daughter of Amram.....

The Quran has committed multiple errors with the above verses

1st error: Mary, sister of Aaron and Mary mother of Jesus are two different people.
2nd error: Mary the sister of Aaron lived 1,500 years before Mary mother of Jesus...
3rd error: If Mary mother of Jesus is the same as Mary the sister of Aaron and daughter of Amram, then that also makes her a sister of Moses, so the Quran is saying Moses is Jesus' uncle. Mofo o!
Only 3 errors? Cool!!!

Now take these errors from the bible. it will take you a lifetime to defend each. I will give you in four batches because i swear to God my phone hanged when i copied it at once.

GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God
created
light, then separated light and
darkness.
GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night
and day) wasn't created until
the fourth
day.
GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were
created before man was created.
GE 2:4-9 Man was created
before trees were
created.
GE 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were
created before man was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created
before birds
were created.
GE 1:24-27 Animals were created
before man was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created
before animals
were created.
GE 1:26 Man is to have dominion
over fish, birds, cattle, and all wild animals,
yet--
GE 2:15-17 It is wrong to be able
to tell
good from evil, right from wrong.
GE 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at
the same time.
GE 2:7, 21-22 Man was created
first, woman
sometime later.
GE 1:28 God encourages reproduction.
LE 12:1-8 God requires
purification rites
following childbirth which, in
effect,
makes childbirth a sin. (Note: The period
for purification following the
birth of a
daughter is twice that for a
son.)
GE 1:31 God was pleased with his creation.
GE 6:5-6 God was not pleased
with his
creation.
(Note: That God should be
displeased is inconsistent with the concept of
omniscience as well as with the
fact that
God allegedly does not change
his mind: NU
23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17.) GE 2:4, 4:26, 12:8, 22:14-16, 26:25
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 11:36pm On Mar 22, 2016
lordnicklaus:
CONFUSION IN THE QURAN

Below are proofs to the confusion


1. THE QURAN DOESN'T EVEN KNOW MARY'S LINEAGE


At length she brought (the babe) to her
people, carrying him (in her arms), They said:
"O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou
brought! "O sister of Aaron, your father was
not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman
unchaste!"
-- Sura 19:27-28



And Mary, the daughter of `Imran, ...
-- Sura 66:12



The Quran confuses Mary the mother of Jesus with Mary (Miriam) the sister of Aaron, daughter of Amram.....

The Quran has committed multiple errors with the above verses

1st error: Mary, sister of Aaron and Mary mother of Jesus are two different people.
2nd error: Mary the sister of Aaron lived 1,500 years before Mary mother of Jesus...
3rd error: If Mary mother of Jesus is the same as Mary the sister of Aaron and daughter of Amram, then that also makes her a sister of Moses, so the Quran is saying Moses is Jesus' uncle. Mofo o!
God was
already known as "the
Lord" (Jahveh or
Jehovah) much earlier than the
time of Moses.
EX 6:2-3 God was first known as
"the
Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) at
the time of
the Egyptian Bondage, during the life of
Moses.
GE 2:17 Adam was to die the
very day that
he ate the forbidden fruit.
GE 5:5 Adam lived 930 years. GE 2:15-17, 3:4-6 It is wrong to
want to be
able to tell good from evil.
HE 5:13-14 It is immature to be
unable to
tell good from evil. GE 4:4-5 God prefers Abel's
offering and
has no regard for Cain's.
2CH 19:7, AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God
shows no
partiality. He treats all alike. GE 4:9 God asks Cain where his
brother Able
is.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE
4:13 God is
everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is
hidden from his view.
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God
is a
vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a
warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15,
29:20,
32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS
10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The
Spirit of God
is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20,
32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4,
32:30-31, ZP 2:2
God is angry. His anger is
sometimes
fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ...
he heard my voice; ... The earth
trembled
and quaked, ... because he was
angry. Smoke
came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came
from his mouth, burning coals
blazed out of
it."
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 11:37pm On Mar 22, 2016
lordnicklaus:
CONFUSION IN THE QURAN

Below are proofs to the confusion


1. THE QURAN DOESN'T EVEN KNOW MARY'S LINEAGE


At length she brought (the babe) to her
people, carrying him (in her arms), They said:
"O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou
brought! "O sister of Aaron, your father was
not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman
unchaste!"
-- Sura 19:27-28



And Mary, the daughter of `Imran, ...
-- Sura 66:12



The Quran confuses Mary the mother of Jesus with Mary (Miriam) the sister of Aaron, daughter of Amram.....

The Quran has committed multiple errors with the above verses

1st error: Mary, sister of Aaron and Mary mother of Jesus are two different people.
2nd error: Mary the sister of Aaron lived 1,500 years before Mary mother of Jesus...
3rd error: If Mary mother of Jesus is the same as Mary the sister of Aaron and daughter of Amram, then that also makes her a sister of Moses, so the Quran is saying Moses is Jesus' uncle. Mofo o!
EZ 6:12, NA 1:2, 6 God is jealous
and furious. He reserves wrath for,
and takes
revenge on, his enemies. "... who
can abide
in the fierceness of his anger?
His fury is poured out like fire, and rocks
are thrown
down by him."
2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is
love.
GA 5:22-23 The fruit of the Spirit of God
is love, joy, peace, patience,
kindness,
faithfulness, gentleness and self-
control.
GE 4:16 Cain went away (or out) from the
presence of the Lord.
JE 23:23-24 A man cannot hide
from God. God
fills heaven and earth.
GE 6:4 There were Nephilim (giants) before
the Flood.
GE 7:21 All creatures other than
Noah and
his clan were annihilated by the
Flood. NU 13:33 There were Nephilim
after the
Flood.
GE 6:6. EX 32:14, NU 14:20, 1SA
15:35, 2SA
24:16 God does change his mind. NU 23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17
God does
not change his mind.
GE 6:19-22, 7:8-9, 7:14-16 Two of
each kind
are to be taken, and are taken, aboard
Noah's Ark.
GE 7:2-5 Seven pairs of some
kinds are to
be taken (and are taken)
aboard the Ark. GE 7:1 Noah was righteous.
JB 1:1,8, JB 2:3 Job was
righteous.
LK 1:6 Zechariah and Elizabeth
were
righteous. JA 5:16 Some men are righteous,
(which
makes their prayers effective).
1JN 3:6-9 Christians become
righteous (or
else they are not really Christians).
RO 3:10, 3:23, 1JN 1:8-10 No one
was or is
righteous.
GE 7:7 Noah and his clan enter
the Ark. GE 7:13 They enter the Ark
(again?).
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 11:38pm On Mar 22, 2016
lordnicklaus:
CONFUSION IN THE QURAN

Below are proofs to the confusion


1. THE QURAN DOESN'T EVEN KNOW MARY'S LINEAGE


At length she brought (the babe) to her
people, carrying him (in her arms), They said:
"O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou
brought! "O sister of Aaron, your father was
not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman
unchaste!"
-- Sura 19:27-28



And Mary, the daughter of `Imran, ...
-- Sura 66:12



The Quran confuses Mary the mother of Jesus with Mary (Miriam) the sister of Aaron, daughter of Amram.....

The Quran has committed multiple errors with the above verses

1st error: Mary, sister of Aaron and Mary mother of Jesus are two different people.
2nd error: Mary the sister of Aaron lived 1,500 years before Mary mother of Jesus...
3rd error: If Mary mother of Jesus is the same as Mary the sister of Aaron and daughter of Amram, then that also makes her a sister of Moses, so the Quran is saying Moses is Jesus' uncle. Mofo o!
GE 11:7-9 God sows discord.
PR 6:16-19 God hates anyone
who sows
discord. GE 11:9 At Babel, the Lord
confused the
language of the whole world.
1CO 14:33 Paul says that God is
not the
author of confusion. GE 11:12 Arpachshad [Arphaxad]
was the
father of Shelah.
LK 3:35-36 Cainan was the
father of Shelah.
Arpachshad was the grandfather of Shelah.
GE 11:26 Terah was 70 years old
when his
son Abram was born.
GE 11:32 Terah was 205 years
old when he died (making Abram 135 at the
time).
GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75
when he left
Haran. This was after Terah died.
Thus, Terah could have been no more
than 145 when
he died; or Abram was only 75
years old
after he had lived 135 years.
GE 12:7, 17:1, 18:1, 26:2, 32:30, EX 3:16,
6:2-3, 24:9-11, 33:11, NU 12:7-8,
14:14, JB
42:5, AM 7:7-8, 9:1 God is seen.
EX 33:20, JN 1:18, 1JN 4:12 God is
not seen. No one can see God's face
and live.
No one has ever seen him.
GE 10:5, 20, 31 There were many
languages
before the Tower of Babel. GE 11:1 There was only one
language before
the Tower of Babel.
GE 15:9, EX 20:24, 29:10-42, LE
1:1-7:38,
NU 28:1-29:40, God details sacrificial
offerings.
JE 7:21-22 God says he did no
such thing.
GE 16:15, 21:1-3, GA 4:22
Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac.
HE 11:17 Abraham had only one
son.
GE 17:1, 35:11, 1CH 29:11-12, LK
1:37 God
is omnipotent. Nothing is impossible with
(or for) God.
JG 1:19 Although God was with
Judah,
together they could not defeat
the plainsmen because the latter
had iron
chariots.
GE 17:7, 10-11 The covenant of
circumcision
is to be everlasting. GA 6:15 It is of no consequence.
GE 17:8 God promises Abraham
the land of
Canaan as an "everlasting
possession."
GE 25:8, AC 7:2-5, HE 11:13 Abraham died
with the promise unfulfilled.
GE 17:15-16, 20:11-12, 22:17
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 11:39pm On Mar 22, 2016
lordnicklaus:
CONFUSION IN THE QURAN

Below are proofs to the confusion


1. THE QURAN DOESN'T EVEN KNOW MARY'S LINEAGE


At length she brought (the babe) to her
people, carrying him (in her arms), They said:
"O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou
brought! "O sister of Aaron, your father was
not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman
unchaste!"
-- Sura 19:27-28



And Mary, the daughter of `Imran, ...
-- Sura 66:12



The Quran confuses Mary the mother of Jesus with Mary (Miriam) the sister of Aaron, daughter of Amram.....

The Quran has committed multiple errors with the above verses

1st error: Mary, sister of Aaron and Mary mother of Jesus are two different people.
2nd error: Mary the sister of Aaron lived 1,500 years before Mary mother of Jesus...
3rd error: If Mary mother of Jesus is the same as Mary the sister of Aaron and daughter of Amram, then that also makes her a sister of Moses, so the Quran is saying Moses is Jesus' uncle. Mofo o!
Abraham and
his half sister, Sarai, are married
and receive God's blessings.
LE 20:17, DT 27:20-23 Inbreeding
is wrong.
GE 18:20-21 God decides to "go
down" to see
what is going on. PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE
4:13 God is
everywhere. He sees everything.
Nothing is
hidden from his view.
GE 19:30-38 While he is drunk, Lot's two
daughters "lie with him," become
pregnant,
and give birth to his offspring.
2PE 2:7 Lot was "just" and
"righteous." GE 22:1-12, DT 8:2 God tempts
(tests)
Abraham and Moses.
JG 2:22 God himself says that he
does test
(tempt). 1CO 10:13 Paul says that God
controls the
extent of our temptations.
JA 1:13 God tests (tempts) no
one.
GE 27:28 "May God give you ... an abundance
of grain and new wine."
DT 7:13 If they follow his
commandments,
God will bless the fruit of their
wine. PS 104:15 God gives us wine to
gladden the
heart.
JE 13:12 "... every bottle shall be
filled
with wine." JN 2:1-11 According to the
author of John,
Jesus' first miracle was turning
water to
wine.
RO 14:21 It is good to refrain from
drinking wine.
GE 35:10 God says Jacob is to be
called
Jacob no longer; henceforth his
name is Israel.
GE 46:2 At a later time, God
himself uses
the name Jacob.
GE 36:11 The sons of Eliphaz
were Teman, Omar, Zepho, Gatam, and Kenaz.
GE 36:15-16 Teman, Omar, Zepho,
Kenaz.
1CH 1:35-36 Teman, Omar, Zephi,
Gatam,
Kenaz, Timna, and Amalek. GE 49:2-28 The fathers of the
twelve tribes
of Israel are: Reuben, Simeon,
Levi, Judah,
Zebulun, Issachar, Dan, Gad,
Asher, Naphtali, Joseph, and Benjamin.
RE 7:4-8 (Leaves out the tribe of
Dan, but
adds Manasseh.)
GE 50:13 Jacob was buried in a
cave at Machpelah bought from Ephron
the Hittite.
AC 7:15-16 He was buried in the
sepulchre
at Shechem, bought from the
sons of Hamor. EX 3:1 Jethro was the father-in-
law of
Moses.
NU 10:29, JG 4:11 (KJV) Hobab
was the
father-in-law of Moses. EX 3:20-22, DT 20:13-17 God
instructs the
Israelites to despoil the
Egyptians, to
plunder their enemies.
EX 20:15, 17, LE 19:13 God prohibits
stealing, defrauding, or robbing
a
neighbor.
EX 4:11 God decides who will be
dumb, deaf, blind, etc.
2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is
a god of
love.
EX 9:3-6 God destroys all the
cattle (including horses) belonging to
the
Egyptians.
EX 9:9-11 The people and the
cattle are
afflicted with boils. EX 12:12, 29 All the first-born of
the
cattle of the Egyptians are
destroyed.
EX 14:9 After having all their
cattle destroyed, then afflicted with
boils, and
then their first-born cattle
destroyed, the
Egyptians pursue Moses on
horseback. EX 12:13 The Israelites have to
mark their
houses with blood in order for
God to see
which houses they occupy and
"pass over" them.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE
4:13 God is
everywhere. He sees everything.
Nothing is
hidden from God. EX 12:37, NU 1:45-46 The number
of men of
military age who take part in
the Exodus is
given as more than 600,000.
Allowing for women, children, and older men
would
probably mean that a total of
about
2,000,000 Israelites left Egypt.
1KI 20:15 All the Israelites, including
children, number only 7000 at a
later time.
EX 15:3, 17:16, NU 25:4, 32:14, IS
42:13
God is a man of war--he is fierce and
angry.
RO 15:33, 2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8,
16 God is
a god of love and peace.
EX 20:1-17 God gave the law directly to
Moses (without using an
intermediary).
GA 3:19 The law was ordained
through angels
by a mediator (an intermediary). EX 20:4 God prohibits the making
of any
graven images whatsoever.
EX 25:18 God enjoins the making
of two
graven images. EX 20:5, 34:7, NU 14:18, DT 5:9, IS
14:21-22 Children are to suffer
for their
parent's sins.
DT 24:16, EZ 18:19-20 Children
are not to suffer for their parent's sins.
EX 20:8-11, 31:15-17, 35:1-3 No
work is to
be done on the Sabbath, not
even lighting a
fire. The commandment is permanent, and
death is required for infractions.
MK 2:27-28 Jesus says that the
Sabbath was
made for man, not man for the
Sabbath (after his disciples were criticized
for
breaking the Sabbath).
RO 14:5, CN 2:14-16 Paul says
the Sabbath
commandment was temporary, and to decide
for yourself regarding its
observance.
EX 20:12, DT 5:16, MT 15:4, 19:19,
MK 7:10,
10:19, LK 18:20 Honor your father and your
mother is one of the ten
commandments. It
is reinforced by Jesus.
MT 10:35-37, LK 12:51-53, 14:26
Jesus says that he has come to divide
families; that a
man's foes will be those of his
own
household; that you must hate
your father, mother, wife, children, brothers,
sisters,
and even your own life to be a
disciple.
MT 23:9 Jesus says to call no
man on earth your father.
EX 20:13, DT 5:17, MK 10:19, LK
18:20, RO
13:9, JA 2:11 God prohibits killing.
GE 34:1-35:5 God condones
trickery and killing.
EX 32:27, DT 7:2, 13:15, 20:1-18
God orders
killing.
2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord
slaughters 185,000 men.
(Note: See Atrocities section for
many more
examples.)
EX 20:14 God prohibits adultery.
HO 1:2 God instructs Hosea to "take a wife
of harlotry."
EX 21:23-25, LE 24:20, DT 19:21 A
life for
a life, an eye for an eye, etc.
MT 5:38-44, LK 6:27-29 Turn the other
cheek. Love your enemies.
EX 23:7 God prohibits the killing
of the
innocent.
NU 31:17-18, DT 7:2, JS 6:21-27, 7:19-26,
8:22-25, 10:20, 40, 11:8-15, 20,
JG
11:30-39, 21:10-12, 1SA 15:3 God
orders or
approves the complete extermination of
groups of people which include
innocent
women and/or children.
(Note: See Atrocities section for
many other examples of the killing of
innocents.)
EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is
faithful
and truthful. He does not lie.
NU 14:30 God breaks his promise. EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is
faithful
and truthful. He does not lie.
1KI 22:21-23 God condones a
spirit of
deception. EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is
faithful
and truthful. He does not lie.
2TH 2:11-12 God deludes people,
making them
believe what is false, so as to be able to
condemn them. (Note: some
versions use the
word persuade here. The
context makes
clear, however, that deception is involved.)
[Mehn! C thousands of errors in
just 1 book they claim to b God's
word. Christianity itself is
blasphemous to God Almighty]
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by maverickboy: 11:43pm On Mar 22, 2016
lordnicklaus:
Islam as we know it isn't actually a religion based on its own self, it is a combination of religions mostly pagan. The only true religions that Islam seemed to have borrowed from are Judaism and ancient Christianity. There were already existing Arabic translations of the Bible and it is possible that Muhammad's followers copied from them so as to make it seem that the Qur'an came to correct the Bible which is impossible. Other religions that Islam borrowed from were Zoroastrianism, Quraishic paganism, Babylonian/Assyrian/Sumerian worship of heavenly bodies and planets, Baal worship of the Canaanites and Nabateans. Below are some of the proofs of Islam being Pagan in origin:

1. [b]Ablution: This concept was borrowed from Zoroastrianism. Zoroastrianism is a religion that believes in two concepts: The concept of light (Personated by Ahura Mazda) and darkness (Personated by Ahriman).[/b]

Zoroaster (Zahrusthra) taught his followers that ablution was necessary to cleanse them from impurities. Islam clearly borrowed from this religion.


2. The symbol of the crescent moon and the star and the name Allah: This symbol originates with the god "Sin" an Assyrian god. His symbol was the crescent moon as he was the god of the weather and the moon. "Sin" was passed unto different religions and bore different names. He is the same as the Biblical "Baal" god of the Canaanites, whose prophets, Elijah (Eliyahu in Hebrew) fought against. He is also the same as the Babylonian god "Bel" who is also called "Marduk" or "Merodach" the chief god riding a dragon called "Tamtu." The Nabatean Arabs borrowed him from the Moabites and Canaanites and called him "Hubal" which the Quraish also borrowed. Muhammad might have also worshipped "Hubal" before the advent of Christianity into Arabia. Suprisingly, Hubal's worshippers chanted "hubalu akbar." His daughters were the stars. His daughters included Allat, Al-Uzzat and Manat. Muslims claim that the name "Allah" came very much later whereas the name of Muhammad's father was "Abd-Allah" meaning "Allah's servant" and he died before Islam was revealed, so if he had the name "Allah" in his name, why do Muslims claim that the name came later during the Revelation of Islam? If "Allah" was existing even before Islam, who was He? The Quraish gave Hubal the title "Al ilaha" meaning "the God" so the title "Allah" is not new to Islam and "Allah" is not a name but a title meaning "the God" so any "god" can be called "Allah." So the crescent symbol represents Allah (i.e Hubal) and the star represents his daughter "Allat."


3. The kissing of the black stone in Mecca: The black stone in Mecca (Makkah) represented one of Hubal's daughters called "Manat." The pagans of Quraish used to kiss the stone even before the advent of Islam. The Muslims still kiss the stone.


4. The doctrine of the existence of Jinns: The belief in "Jinns" or "Genies" did not originate with Islam. The Babylonians believed in Jinns as the servants of the chief god Bel (Hubal). The Jinns were synonymous to "angels" in Babylonian/Assyrian religion. This is to show that Islam is a religion of myths and superstitions.


5. Islam believes in an angel called "Marut": Islam believes in an angel called "Marut." This is not suprising as "Marut" is actually the same as "Marutuk" which is the Akkadian version of "Marduk" or "Merodach" the chief god of Babylon. Wake up Muslims, Marut is not an angel but a demon.



More posts are coming soon......
Mr, you've got many claims up there and I hope you will be able to defend them with me. so let's do it one after the other.

1. Is ablution alien to Judaism and Christianity as far as bible is concerned?

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Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Nobody: 12:19am On Mar 23, 2016
maverickboy:
Mr, you've got many claims up there and I hope you will be able to defend them with me. so let's do it one after the other.

1. Is ablution alien to Judaism and Christianity as far as bible is concerned?

Of course
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Nobody: 12:22am On Mar 23, 2016
@politricks, your Quran's error is much it's just dat dere iz no much time nd I was already asleep before you replied my first post... But I will take each slowly...
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Rexyl(m): 9:11am On Mar 23, 2016
When the truth has been stated and some people are still struggling to believe it, then it's up to them if they would choose to beleive the errors and live by lies all their lives.

Politricks

Yeah all you have quoted as errors in the Bible and which made you to condemn it are for the rise and fall of the ignorant and to pierce the hearts of the fools, making it harder for them to believe so that their sorrow will multiple for rejecting simple truth.

Better understanding and correct Interpretation of those verses are given to spiritual people. The more you stress yourself to find faults, the more your sorrow will be. I am not exaggerating or harsh, just saying the plain truth. Again don't think this is a silly conclusion, it's just the best option to leave for the ignorant.

If you conderm Bible I wonder where you have placed Quran, do you mean it just emerged from nowhere? You have just complicated issues about your faith.

Yeah plainly stated...
Christ first miracle... turning water to wine...meaning what?

Bible condernming wine, how come?

The Spirit of God telling Peter to kill and eat, while he should stop thinking certain animals are unclean... What is the divine response? That why Jesus would speak in parables and only a few or none could understand what he meant, because they are spiritually and in some cases mentally lacking to comprehend what the Spirit was saying

Man your situation will be like the Ethiopian steward, who wanted to know God's message, but couldn't understand with the time and energy spent to get the meaning. God knew he could never understand if not helped out. That's why he sent Philip to interpret the prophesy he had preserved for long (Isaiah 53). You too can read it and come up with another argument. God is in heaven where he does as pleased and his thought no man can understand. He can either save or punish you for ignorant. That is why he is God.
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 10:04am On Mar 23, 2016
Rexyl:
When the truth has been stated and some people are still struggling to believe it, then it's up to them if they would choose to beleive the errors and live by lies all their lives.

Politricks

Yeah all you have quoted as errors in the Bible and which made you to condemn it are for the rise and fall of the ignorant and to pierce the hearts of the fools, making it harder for them to believe so that their sorrow will multiple for rejecting simple truth.

Better understanding and correct Interpretation of those verses are given to spiritual people. The more you stress yourself to find faults, the more your sorrow will be. I am not exaggerating or harsh, just saying the plain truth. Again don't think this is a silly conclusion, it's just the best option to leave for the ignorant.

If you conderm Bible I wonder where you have placed Quran, do you mean it just emerged from nowhere? You have just complicated issues about your faith.
So if i were to convert to christianity(God forbid) and i needed some clarification about these things, is this the trash you will write?
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Rexyl(m): 10:09am On Mar 23, 2016
politricks:
So if i were to convert to christianity(God forbid) and i needed some clarification about these things, is this the trash you will write?

As stated before the word of God was like trash to that Ethiopian eunuch. Only God can save you and others like you if he wills.


Man your situation will be like the Ethiopian steward, who wanted to know God's message, but couldn't understand with the time and energy spent to get the meaning. God knew he could never understand if not helped out. That's why he sent Philip to interpret the prophesy he had preserved for long (Isaiah 53). You too can read it and come up with another argument. God is in heaven where he does as pleased and his thought no man can understand. He can either save or punish you for ignorant. That is why he is God.
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 10:24am On Mar 23, 2016
Rexyl:


As stated before the word of God was like trash to that Ethiopian eunuch. Only God can save you and others like you if he wills.


Man you situation will be like the Ethiopian steward, who wanted to know God's message, but couldn't understand with the time and energy spent to get the meaning. God knew he could never understand if not helped out. That's why he send Philip to interpret the prophesy he had preserved for long (Isaiah 53). You too can read it and come up without another argument. God is in heaven where he does as pleased and his thought no man can understand. He can either save or punish you for ignorant. That is why he is God.
Please stop spamming my mentions you are not making any sense.
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Rexyl(m): 10:41am On Mar 23, 2016
politricks:
Please stop spamming my mentions you are not making any sense.

Hope you are not defeated. God's word making no sense to you again? I wish to handle the spiritual aspect while others are making clarifications based on history.

Man, you need Bible. By the time more truths are emerging you will run. Do you know gifts are diverse according to the Bible you have condemned. By the time others too begin to show you the way, the truth and the life, you will be overwhelmed. How can rat be placed before elephant?
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 10:51am On Mar 23, 2016
Rexyl:


Hope you are not defeated. God's word making no sense to you again? I wish to handle the spiritual aspect while others are making clarifications based on history.

Man, you need Bible. By the time more truths are emerging you will run. Do you know gifts are diverse according to the Bible you have condemned. By the time others too begin to show you the way, the truth and the life, you will be overwhelmed. How can rat be placed before elephant?
Defeated? More like irritated. Prove those errors are not errors afterall or forever hold your peace don't give me the holy spirit bullshit because the bible was written in plain english.
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Rexyl(m): 11:24am On Mar 23, 2016
politricks:
Defeated? More like irritated. Prove those errors are not errors afterall or forever hold your peace don't give me the holy spirit bullshit because the bible was written in plain english.


That's why It requires complete reading and spiritual understanding of the Bible to know what God means at a particular time. The messages meant for a particular time may be different from those meant for a generation and those meant for eternity. Those messages you collated as errors are meant to achieve purposes for which they are stated. Christians have moved past to know the truth and pursue eternal goal.
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Nobody: 8:52pm On Mar 26, 2016
@politricks


You did copy and paste. I can defend everything you posted.... You were supposed to bring them one after the other cos' it might take time going through all. And point of correction, the bible was originally written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek and not English..... Maybe I will have to take each point one after the other.....
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by SUPERPACK: 9:24pm On Mar 28, 2016
lordnicklaus:
@politricks


You did copy and paste. I can defend everything you posted.... You were supposed to bring them one after the other cos' it might take time going through all. And point of correction, the bible was originally written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek and not English..... Maybe I will have to take each point one after the other.....
hope u are nt compiling an encyclopedia.
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Nobody: 9:07am On Mar 29, 2016
No@superpack

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