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Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by chiefbidemi: 7:27pm On Apr 10, 2016
@ sooperrescue your assistance is needed on this thread.

Hello, I am Chief Bidemi. I have a short story which precedes my request. I have 5 children. The last of them just graduated and completed his NYSC year with the last batch that passed out. All the others have graduated and are getting on fine. Since I have little recurring expenses to handle now, I want to give myself a treat. I have driven many cars but have not owned an SUV. My present car is a 2010 Toyota Camry and I intend to give it out to my 3rd child who just gave birth. I already told her to come take the car by month end.

Now, I want to give myself a treat. At least I have tried. You get to live once. I have admired the new model Range Rover Vogue which took the new look in 2013. I intend to buy this car this month and give the 2010 camry to my daughter. I know the price for a tokunbo of it. That price is fine with me. I need solid advice on what you think about the Range Rover from year 2013 till date. I don't want to buy a car I won't enjoy. Here are specific questions.

What do you think about the diesel model?
What do you think about the petrol model?
Which model is recommended? The diesel or petrol? Why?
Are the parts available in Nigeria now?
Which year can I easily get parts for?
What does it cost for simple parts like bumper, head lights, side mirrors, tail lights? You know other Nigerian drivers can hit you anytime, hahaha.
I travel a lot. Lagos to Abuja by road. Can this car do Lagos to Abuja weekly?
Is any model year problematic? Which year?
Thanks and thanks

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Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by jodeci01: 7:40pm On Apr 10, 2016
You can consult this thread....cheers!
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by chiefbidemi: 7:54pm On Apr 10, 2016
jodeci01:
You can consult this thread....cheers!
which thread?
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by jodeci01: 9:49pm On Apr 10, 2016
Apologies... substantial parts of the thread were lost when Nairaland crashed but should still be informative

https://www.nairaland.com/1528141/range-rover-sports-club
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by ivoryhouse(m): 10:29pm On Apr 10, 2016
What do you think about the diesel model?
What do you think about the petrol model?
Which model is recommended? The diesel or petrol? Why?
Are the parts available in Nigeria now?
Which year can I easily get parts for?
What does it cost for simple parts like bumper, head lights, side mirrors, tail lights? You know other Nigerian drivers can hit you anytime, hahaha.
I travel a lot. Lagos to Abuja by road. Can this car do Lagos to Abuja weekly?
Is any model year problematic? Which year?
Thanks and thanks
I will advise you go to the thread but i have a few things to say..
The diesel engine range rover is fantastic but the parts will be harder to get and you will need to treat the diesel(and petrol too!) at every top-up so the poor quality will not cause problems. The petrol moves faster but the diesel engine will last longer provided you take really good care of it. Diesel engine vogues will cost less to maintain. Please go online and verify some of these facts
The parts are available in Nigeria and its possible to get any of the parts online at same cost or even cheaper than parts sourced locally
You may have to go to the market to check the prices for the parts mentioned..lol! You will get them at Ladipo
This car can do Abuja - Lagos-Accra daily cool
All cars have their issues, some people say they prefer the 2006 vogue(they say its easier to maintain) but i beg to defer. How a car runs depends on the maintenance culture of the owner.
I wish you the best, go ahead and buy this car. You will not regret it. You may call Sooper rescue 08098534267
Do have a wonderful week

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Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by sooperrescue(m): 12:25am On Apr 11, 2016
chiefbidemi:
@ sooperrescue your assistance is needed on this thread.
Hello, I am Chief Bidemi. I have a short story which precedes my request. I have 5 children. The last of them just graduated and completed his NYSC year with the last batch that passed out. All the others have graduated and are getting on fine. Since I have little recurring expenses to handle now, I want to give myself a threat. I have driven many cars but have not owned an SUV. My present car is a 2010 Toyota Camry and I intend to give it out to my 3rd child who just gave birth. I already told her to come take the car by month end.
Now, I want to give myself a threat. At least I have tried. You get to live once. I have admired the new model Range Rover Vogue which took the new look in 2013. I intend to buy this car this month and give the 2010 camry to my daughter. I know the price for a tokunbo of it. That price is fine with me. I need solid advice on what you think about the Range Rover from year 2013 till date. I don't want to buy a car I won't enjoy. Here are specific questions.
What do you think about the diesel model?
What do you think about the petrol model?
Which model is recommended? The diesel or petrol? Why?
Are the parts available in Nigeria now?
Which year can I easily get parts for?
What does it cost for simple parts like bumper, head lights, side mirrors, tail lights? You know other Nigerian drivers can hit you anytime, hahaha.
I travel a lot. Lagos to Abuja by road. Can this car do Lagos to Abuja weekly?
Is any model year problematic? Which year?
Thanks and thanks
Wao, from Toyota to Range Rover. You truly deserve this treat and it will be a wonderful threat if you dont buy the diesel because there are many things involved especially the quality of the diesel, what to do when the diesel particle filter refused to regenerate and is blocked and the engine falls into limp mode. The items you are wary of should be covered by your insurer and it should not even arise because there is no way an armed robber under the influence of indian hemp will go and rob in an army barracks, the eye go clear. In likemanner, danfo and keke and women drivers will maintain their distance, the way motorists maintain their distance behind CBN convey. That said, it is a big treat, but let it be for only you cos a driver that learnt how to drive on a vw bettle will not understand what is dynamic response, or looking for the gear lever. The parts are expensive but not near mercedes e and s class whose air suspension cost over 300k each. The major common fault is the lower arm and it might never occur if your house is in a refined neighbourhood, and salt water is not their friend , so let the csr be washed thoroughly especially the underneath if you live on the Island. The 2014 has some features that the 2013 does not have like the lights on the headlamps does not stay on unlike the 2014 and we changed one recently for over 3000usd. The electronic side steps comes standard in 2014 but it is an option in 2013. If these does not matter to you, get the 2013 model, you will save some millions. The tail lights for the range is 240k, just for you to have an idea and the parts are within 30 minutes reach. Welcome to Range Rover Sport Club
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by sooperrescue(m): 12:35am On Apr 11, 2016
And for the Lagos to Abuja trip, it will be one pulsating experience that you will always cherish, from the massage to the quiet comfort and the powerful engine. Autobiography can be bought as 3.0 supercharged too, so be on the lookout if you want a smaller engine.
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by LeJeun3: 1:26am On Apr 11, 2016



Hmmmmmm

Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by sultaan(m): 2:21am On Apr 11, 2016
To throw some sand in this sweet discussion poster can also take a look at the Cadillac Escalade for less than the price of Range Rover and those parts cost a lot less even when shipped into the country.You Lade won't look inferior even when parked next to a Range Rover.

Just my 2cent

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Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by chiefbidemi: 7:35am On Apr 11, 2016
jodeci01:
Apologies... substantial parts of the thread were lost when Nairaland crashed but should still be informative

https://www.nairaland.com/1528141/range-rover-sports-club
I read through this thread. It gives good info but does not talk about the 2013 to 2016 models alot. Hence the reason for this thread.
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by chiefbidemi: 7:38am On Apr 11, 2016
ivoryhouse:
What do you think about the diesel model?
What do you think about the petrol model?
Which model is recommended? The diesel or petrol? Why?
Are the parts available in Nigeria now?
Which year can I easily get parts for?
What does it cost for simple parts like bumper, head lights, side mirrors, tail lights? You know other Nigerian drivers can hit you anytime, hahaha.
I travel a lot. Lagos to Abuja by road. Can this car do Lagos to Abuja weekly?
Is any model year problematic? Which year?
Thanks and thanks
I will advise you go to the thread but i have a few things to say..
The diesel engine range rover is fantastic but the parts will be harder to get and you will need to treat the diesel(and petrol too!) at every top-up so the poor quality will not cause problems. The petrol moves faster but the diesel engine will last longer provided you take really good care of it. Diesel engine vogues will cost less to maintain. Please go online and verify some of these facts
The parts are available in Nigeria and its possible to get any of the parts online at same cost or even cheaper than parts sourced locally
You may have to go to the market to check the prices for the parts mentioned..lol! You will get them at Ladipo
This car can do Abuja - Lagos-Accra daily cool
All cars have their issues, some people say they prefer the 2006 vogue(they say its easier to maintain) but i beg to defer. How a car runs depends on the maintenance culture of the owner.
I wish you the best, go ahead and buy this car. You will not regret it. You may call Sooper rescue 08098534267
Do have a wonderful week
The car can do Lagos to Abuja daily. This is so cool. Thanks for all the other info
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by chiefbidemi: 7:46am On Apr 11, 2016
sooperrescue:
Wao, from Toyota to Range Rover. You truly deserve this treat and it will be a wonderful threat if you dont buy the diesel because there are many things involved especially the quality of the diesel, what to do when the diesel particle filter refused to regenerate and is blocked and the engine falls into limp mode. The items you are wary of should be covered by your insurer and it should not even arise because there is no way an armed robber under the influence of indian hemp will go and rob in an army barracks, the eye go clear. In likemanner, danfo and keke and women drivers will maintain their distance, the way motorists maintain their distance behind CBN convey. That said, it is a big treat, but let it be for only you cos a driver that learnt how to drive on a vw bettle will not understand what is dynamic response, or looking for the gear lever. The parts are expensive but not near mercedes e and s class whose air suspension cost over 300k each. The major common fault is the lower arm and it might never occur if your house is in a refined neighbourhood, and salt water is not their friend , so let the csr be washed thoroughly especially the underneath if you live on the Island. The 2014 has some features that the 2013 does not have like the lights on the headlamps does not stay on unlike the 2014 and we changed one recently for over 3000usd. The electronic side steps comes standard in 2014 but it is an option in 2013. If these does not matter to you, get the 2013 model, you will save some millions. The tail lights for the range is 240k, just for you to have an idea and the parts are within 30 minutes reach. Welcome to Range Rover Sport Club

If it is a diesel range, how much will it cost to fix if the diesel particle filter refused to regenerate and is blocked and the engine falls into limp mode? Can this issue be prevented?

So mercedes e class, s class and gl class of same year are more expensive to maintain?

Yes I live on the island in lagos. I will take note of this. Thanks

As for the curly lights staying on, that's the main essence of this range when you approach anywhere. I call that light "the introduction". It introduces you before you even step out of the car. People you are to meet will adjust. So I can only buy the one which the lights stay on.

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Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by chiefbidemi: 7:49am On Apr 11, 2016
sooperrescue:
And for the Lagos to Abuja trip, it will be one pulsating experience that you will always cherish, from the massage to the quiet comfort and the powerful engine. Autobiography can be bought as 3.0 supercharged too, so be on the lookout if you want a smaller engine.

The Autobiography is a lot more expensive. My options are a Vogue or a supercharged Vogue is there's something like that. I would prefer the diesel because i can get it for much less than N20m. If the diesel would be more stressful to maintain, I will look for a petrol for around N20m
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by chiefbidemi: 7:51am On Apr 11, 2016
sultaan:
To throw some sand in this sweet discussion poster can also take a look at the Cadillac Escalade for less than the price of Range Rover and those parts cost a lot less even when shipped into the country.You Lade won't look inferior even when parked next to a Range Rover.

Just my 2cent

The Cadillac Escalade does not tickle me like the range. I have never fantasied about the Cadillac Escalade. So I will stick with the range
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by sooperrescue(m): 8:49am On Apr 11, 2016
Good morning Chief, I like your introduction light swagger. The diesel engine filter particles can be fixed and also prevented from being blocked. We are acquiring some tools that will make diesel engines work fine in the country but until then, I cannot say oui to the diesel. The engine parts are not common and repairs might take months to effect. I am yet to observe if the range diesel Is equipped with diesel exhaust fluid which if equipped is not available in the country because even Coscharis does not have it. The diesel exhaust fluid is designed to be added into a special tank by the fuel tank to eliminate many emission related faults. I will let you know later about def which will be a factor to your choice of a diesel range rover. I know that Ford is equipped with def and you can order the fluid and top it up anytime it is low. That'll eliminate all the blocked filter, dirty egr and faulty high pressure pump.
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by sooperrescue(m): 9:14am On Apr 11, 2016
The range rover dieseli s equipped with def, . You can read more about it on www.bluedef.com
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by ivoryhouse(m): 11:39am On Apr 11, 2016
sultaan:
To throw some sand in this sweet discussion poster can also take a look at the Cadillac Escalade for less than the price of Range Rover and those parts cost a lot less even when shipped into the country.You Lade won't look inferior even when parked next to a Range Rover.

Just my 2cent

Haha, a bicycle with motor drive can never take the place of a power bike no matter how much you love-vendor it... cool!
Range Rover and Escalade are on two different planets.. grin
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by ivoryhouse(m): 11:48am On Apr 11, 2016
ivoryhouse:


Haha, a bicycle with motor drive can never take the place of a power bike no matter how much you love-vendor it... cool!
Range Rover and Escalade are on two different planets.. grin
The diesel exhaust fluid is available in Nigeria, though you may have to wait three weeks if its out of stock. The diesel range rover may make more sense..
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by ivoryhouse(m): 11:51am On Apr 11, 2016
Prior to its introduction in the US, improvements have been made to the Td6 helping to achieve an additional eight percent increase in overall fuel efficiency. These include the addition of a water-cooled turbocharger for maximum performance and durability at high operating temperatures; and new ball bearings, vanes and nozzles to improve efficiency.

A Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) system uses Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) to reduce NOx emissions, ensuring the Td6 achieves US LEV 3 status. The DEF is injected into the exhaust and, as the resulting mixture passes through the SCR, NOx is turned into harmless nitrogen gas.

Diesel exhaust fluid is commercially available and owners can top the fluid level up themselves or take it to their nearest Land Rover retailer if the reservoir needs replenishing.

In addition to the cleansing efficiency of the SCR, every aspect of the Td6 engine has been optimized to ensure emissions are as low as possible. This includes the new Low Pressure EGR system which has been critical to the success of Td6 emission ratings and further improves fuel economy.

Unlike traditional High Pressure EGR systems, which recirculate gases directly from the exhaust manifold to inlet manifold at high pressure, the revised design takes gases at low pressure - after the DPF filter in the exhaust pipe - and feeds them back to the turbocharger inlet. From here they pass through an intercooler, resulting in a lower peak combustion temperature.

The higher the peak combustion temperature, the more NOx is produced, so the low pressure EGR system has the effect of reducing the level of NOx produced, by lowering the peak combustion temperature and improving efficiency.

Elsewhere, a two-stage oil pump reduces engine losses while a revised design for the fuel-injectors has been introduced to improve efficiency and reduce hydrocarbon emissions. The injection cycle also employs an innovative two-stage process to eliminate the traditional ‘knock’ associated with diesel engines.

Attention to detail ensures diesel derivatives deliver traditional Range Rover refinement. Innovative dual-isolation engine mounts, as well as windshields featuring acoustic laminate, help reduce noise levels. Refinement on Range Rover models is further enhanced by the design of the bulkhead between the engine and vehicle interior, which minimizes the transmission of engine noise into the cabin.

The fuel filler neck on diesel Land Rover vehicles is fitted with a misfueling protection device. This device is designed to prevent the narrower gasoline fuel nozzle fitted to gasoline pumps from being inserted into the filler neck on the diesel vehicle, reducing the likelihood of adding the wrong fuel.

Tested and Proven in the USA

Land Rover engineers embarked on US testing schedule to ensure the new diesel engine could handle all US climate and terrain conditions. By the time US sales have begun, the test fleet will have completed one million test miles.

The test fleet has targeted the most extreme climates and diverse terrains imaginable across the US. The new Range Rover and Range Rover Sport diesel have navigated from sea level to altitudes of 14,000 feet during the grueling test program. To meet the unique demands of the North American climate, engineers have undertaken testing year round, from the coldest winter days in Minnesota, to summertime in the deserts of the Southwest.
copied from http://www.landroverusa.com/our-story/news/diesel-engine.html
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by chiefbidemi: 12:32pm On Apr 11, 2016
ivoryhouse:

The diesel exhaust fluid is available in Nigeria, though you may have to wait three weeks if its out of stock. The diesel range rover may make more sense..

Have you had practical experience with the diesel range rover? Maybe you used it or know someone who uses it? I asked because, based on price, I prefer the diesel.
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by sooperrescue(m): 1:01pm On Apr 11, 2016
I have fixed the vogue and an x6 and currently on a tdv6. The def is not available in the country, so you will have to Import it. You cannot drive the diesel if there is no def in the range
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by LeJeun3: 1:49pm On Apr 11, 2016
sooperrescue:
I have fixed the vogue and an x6 and currently on a tdv6. The def is not available in the country, so you will have to Import it. You cannot drive the diesel if there is no def in the range


If you don't care about emissions, you could drive it......

However, buying a DEF in substantial quantity would keep him going a long while...
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by chiefbidemi: 2:17pm On Apr 11, 2016
sooperrescue:
I have fixed the vogue and an x6 and currently on a tdv6. The def is not available in the country, so you will have to Import it. You cannot drive the diesel if there is no def in the range

How much does it cost for a 10 litre def?

How often do i need to top up the def?
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by ivoryhouse(m): 7:03pm On Apr 11, 2016
chiefbidemi:


Have you had practical experience with the diesel range rover? Maybe you used it or know someone who uses it? I asked because, based on price, I prefer the diesel.
I run a defender 200tdi and its rock solid. The def isnt expensive and you can have it in any quantity you want. It isnt produced here but that it exists is very good news. If you want,you order it so its on ground by the time your range rover gets here.
I will also advise you buy the range from the UK, you wont spend anything near the cost of buying it in the U.S

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Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by chiefbidemi: 8:18pm On Apr 11, 2016
ivoryhouse:

I run a defender 200tdi and its rock solid. The def isnt expensive and you can have it in any quantity you want. It isnt produced here but that it exists is very good news. If you want,you order it so its on ground by the time your range rover gets here.
I will also advise you buy the range from the UK, you wont spend anything near the cost of buying it in the U.S

I think Germany will be better. UK range rovers are right hand drive. Is there any mechanic in Nigeria to convert a 2014 Range without issues?
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by sooperrescue(m): 8:29pm On Apr 11, 2016
Chief, Don't go there..right hand conversion?

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Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by Nobody: 11:16pm On Apr 11, 2016
People that need funding for their Startups, will soon be here.
Welldone Chief, we only live once.

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Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by LeJeun3: 12:50am On Apr 12, 2016
chiefbidemi:


I think Germany will be better. UK range rovers are right hand drive. Is there any mechanic in Nigeria to convert a 2014 Range without issues?



Chief, don't even consider the thoughts its not possible....
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by chiefbidemi: 5:40am On Apr 12, 2016
sooperrescue:
Chief, Don't go there..right hand conversion?

LeJeun3:




Chief, don't even consider the thoughts its not possible....

I know. Even if it is possible, I won't do it. That is why I would consider only 2 countries. Either from the US or from Germany. I can pick up one already in Nigeria if the deal is good. Getting a new one from Coscharis will cost around N35m or more and they said they offer financing. Even though I qualify for the financing, I'm not interested in borrowing. So tokumbo wins.

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Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by ivoryhouse(m): 11:27am On Apr 12, 2016
chiefbidemi:


I think Germany will be better. UK range rovers are right hand drive. Is there any mechanic in Nigeria to convert a 2014 Range without issues?
Conversion!lol!only land rover can do that..God forbid!
France drives leftr hand drive and their cars come into England but the Gremany and U.A will do. The things are even costly in England@between 56-68kpounds!
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by leuelliot(m): 6:28pm On Apr 12, 2016
Chief whichever model you end up buying no forget to post plenty pishurr O
Re: Range Rover Vogue, HSE, Autobiography From 2013 To 2016 Discussion by ataspray(m): 8:14pm On Apr 12, 2016
chiefbidemi you cant get a tokunbo 2013 range rover vogue petrol for 20m
diesel yes, but not petrol
also beware of a high end car like the vogue thats from europe, many do not have any duty paid on them or proper/full duty (as many are from cotonu)
basically, beware of buying this car cheap.

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