The Hausas are the most timid and slavish ethnic group in the whole of Africa,they are the reason Fulani are misbehaving in Nigeria.

gwales:
Mentally deranged people everywhere. So u have to create to fake accounts just to spew rubbish Fullamafia stop responding him and let the thread die a natural death

I think so too. Just continue watching as they engage in a diaologue of the deaf.

"Koro" must be Seriki, King, Oba or Igwe of Sokoto, Kano and Daura.

@lawani
@PabloAfricanus

I was searching for historical facts and stumbled upon this interesting thread.

Firstly, I am amazed how black men are clawing at each other's throat with history which we have no way of verifying and at best, we all have biased and distorted knowledge of. To be clear, everybody telling you history; the Yorubas, Fulanis, Hausas, Igbos or even british will only tell you with them at the heroic centre of history, so which ever history you know is as wrong as it is right. Also other races are constantly degrading the black man and some try to deny it's liberty, it is sad we will do worse to ourselves in the name of history, one that divide us, and pride that is yet to raise the black race to the equal of all other race.

I am Ilorin in every sense of it and I have a modest understanding of it's history. I will like to clear some little misgivings I have seen on this thread.

1. Ilorin was founded by neither Afonja nor Alimi, it was a man Ojo isekuse who was the first settler in Ilorin. Ojo was a yoruba man. Ilorin was a meeting point for hunters, Ojo and his family were the sole settlers.

2. Ojo left after a scandal. The Asaju's settled, they are yorubas and settled around the Ilorin sharpening stone, their family house is still there. At this point neither Afonja nor Alimi resides in Ilorin.

3. Then the Sholagberus, they are said to be Fulanis. Then numerous small individual settlers came from both the north and the south. There was no town, just individual settlers, so no king. Though, each settlers congregated by tribe and they had individual leaders. It was said there was serikin gambari then for the hausa settlers. Note; no Afonja, no Alimi.

4. Alimi went to Oyo from Gwandu preaching Islam before backtracking to Ilorin because of political turmoil in the old Oyo empire. It was said that was the first time Afonja heard about the cleric.

5. Afonja had a falling out with the then Alafin because of a war he was sent to fight that he considered a suicide mission. By Oyo tradition, when you go to war it is either you win or you die in battle, if not, you will be compelled to commit suicide back home. Afonja refused and went to hide in Ilorin.

6. Alimi later got to Ilorin too. The Alaafin was furious and sent a punitive expedition to Ilorin for Afonja. Afonja knew he wasn't going to win against Oyo and he consulted Alimi for spiritual and military help.
Note: at this point Afonja had the most military power in the town but there was no king, no leader still individual settlements.

7. Alimi wrote to Gwandu for military support for Jihad, he was obliged. Then came the Jama'a to the area now called Ilorin, it wasn't still a town at that point, Oyo lost because the Oyo army wasn't expecting to meet the Jama'as calvary. The problem wasn't solved get.

8. Alaafin became much angry and sent message to Oyo's vassal states to send military men to finish the Afonja rebels/the Jama'a. The forces in Ilorin could not withstand the might of Oyo, so Alimi again wrote to Gwandu. Gwandu refused citing ongoing Jihad in the north.

9. Alimi informed Afonja that no reinforcement is coming, but they could adopt a strategy called a pre-emptive attack, this meant that before Oyo could organize it's army, Ilorin which is not too far from the old Oyo empire marched on old Oyo empire before they were prepared for war.

10. Old Oyo fell and was burnt to the ground. Former smaller tributary villages of Oyo close to Ilorin were scared of attack from Ilorin and brought gifts. There was vacuum in the leadership of Ilorin which by the fall of Oyo become a baby town. Alimi was far older than Afonja (his real name was Salihu and was given the alias Sheu Alim roughly meaning "knowledgeable elderly one) and by virtue that the superior military power in the town (the jama'as) were loyal to him, he was the defacto leader but never named an Oba or an Emir, he never lived in any palace.

11. He sent for his family from Gwandu, he had four(4) sons and a daughter. After his demise, there was leadership tussle between Afonja, Alimi's sons and the Ilorin mallams(Alimi met some mallams in Ilorin and they accepted him as their leader because of his superior Islamic knowledge). The mallams was laying claim to an Islamic caliphate that won't be hereditary but knowledge based, Afonja because the whole rebellion was about him and there wasn't a king to that point, while the sons wanted to continue where their father stopped.

12. The sons had superior military might, so they killed everybody that opposed their rule including Afonja. They started Ilorin Emirate and AbdulSalam became the 1st Emir of Ilorin and was succeeded by Shitta, the emirship has been shared by these twos descendants ever since.

13. On balogun Biala of Ajikobi, he became powerful during the reign of Oba Moma. He maneuvered the other baloguns against Moma and used the Emir's immediate junior brother in a rebellion against him, the Emir was killed and Sulayman was installed. Sulayman was naturally fearful of the powerful balogun(similar to bashorun gaa) and hence was loyal till the British invasion in 1897.

14. Lastly, Ilorin lost the jalumi war but was never at the threat of annihilation by Ibadan. In fact, Ilorin successfully annexed much of the smaller towns of yoruba land as tributary states, including some Ibolo, igbomina and Ekiti towns, even Jebba and Shao were being administered by Ilorin princes until very recently. Ibadan was the Yoruba town that blocked the path of Ilorin expansion southwards.

History is a curious thing, where we have been can explain to us a lot about where we are and it can guide us on where we are going. But history is delicate and should be approached with caution as sometimes when we get to the root of history, we may discover we are not even who we think we are.
Also, everybody moved from somewhere and dominated other tribes at a point. The history of the world is that of migration and no man germinated like a seed where they now call home. Ilorin is what it is, it is not hausa nor fulani nor yoruba, it is more than a tribe, irrespective of language, rulers or it's culture, an homogeneous society has emerged from it's heterogeneous make up and it is better to learn to live with that.
Ilorin is Ilorin.

And I expect more pan-Africa discussions among us not ethnocentrism that was planted by our colonists to always keep us apart.

WoruSulyman:
@lawani
@PabloAfricanus

I was searching for historical facts and stumbled upon this interesting thread.

Firstly, I am amazed how black men are clawing at each other's throat with history which we have no way of verifying and at best, we all have biased and distorted knowledge of. To be clear, everybody telling you history; the Yorubas, Fulanis, Hausas, Igbos or even british will only tell you with them at the heroic centre of history, so which ever history you know is as wrong as it is right. Also other races are constantly degrading the black man and some try to deny it's liberty, it is sad we will do worse to ourselves in the name of history, one that divide us, and pride that is yet to raise the black race to the equal of all other race.

I am Ilorin in every sense of it and I have a modest understanding of it's history. I will like to clear some little misgivings I have seen on this thread.

1. Ilorin was founded by neither Afonja nor Alimi, it was a man Ojo isekuse who was the first settler in Ilorin. Ojo was a yoruba man. Ilorin was a meeting point for hunters, Ojo and his family were the sole settlers.

2. Ojo left after a scandal. The Asaju's settled, they are yorubas and settled around the Ilorin sharpening stone, their family house is still there. At this point neither Afonja nor Alimi resides in Ilorin.

3. Then the Sholagberus, they are said to be Fulanis. Then numerous small individual settlers came from both the north and the south. There was no town, just individual settlers, so no king. Though, each settlers congregated by tribe and they had individual leaders. It was said there was serikin gambari then for the hausa settlers. Note; no Afonja, no Alimi.

4. Alimi went to Oyo from Gwandu preaching Islam before backtracking to Ilorin because of political turmoil in the old Oyo empire. It was said that was the first time Afonja heard about the cleric.

5. Afonja had a falling out with the then Alafin because of a war he was sent to fight that he considered a suicide mission. By Oyo tradition, when you go to war it is either you win or you die in battle, if not, you will be compelled to commit suicide back home. Afonja refused and went to hide in Ilorin.

6. Alimi later got to Ilorin too. The Alaafin was furious and sent a punitive expedition to Ilorin for Afonja. Afonja knew he wasn't going to win against Oyo and he consulted Alimi for spiritual and military help.
Note: at this point Afonja had the most military power in the town but there was no king, no leader still individual settlements.

7. Alimi wrote to Gwandu for military support for Jihad, he was obliged. Then came the Jama'a to the area now called Ilorin, it wasn't still a town at that point, Oyo lost because the Oyo army wasn't expecting to meet the Jama'as calvary. The problem wasn't solved get.

8. Alaafin became much angry and sent message to Oyo's vassal states to send military men to finish the Afonja rebels/the Jama'a. The forces in Ilorin could not withstand the might of Oyo, so Alimi again wrote to Gwandu. Gwandu refused citing ongoing Jihad in the north.

9. Alimi informed Afonja that no reinforcement is coming, but they could adopt a strategy called a pre-emptive attack, this meant that before Oyo could organize it's army, Ilorin which is not too far from the old Oyo empire marched on old Oyo empire before they were prepared for war.

10. Old Oyo fell and was burnt to the ground. Former smaller tributary villages of Oyo close to Ilorin were scared of attack from Ilorin and brought gifts. There was vacuum in the leadership of Ilorin which by the fall of Oyo become a baby town. Alimi was far older than Afonja (his real name was Salihu and was given the alias Sheu Alim roughly meaning "knowledgeable elderly one) and by virtue that the superior military power in the town (the jama'as) were loyal to him, he was the defacto leader but never named an Oba or an Emir, he never lived in any palace.

11. He sent for his family from Gwandu, he had four(4) sons and a daughter. After his demise, there was leadership tussle between Afonja, Alimi's sons and the Ilorin mallams(Alimi met some mallams in Ilorin and they accepted him as their leader because of his superior Islamic knowledge). The mallams was laying claim to an Islamic caliphate that won't be hereditary but knowledge based, Afonja because the whole rebellion was about him and there wasn't a king to that point, while the sons wanted to continue where their father stopped.

12. The sons had superior military might, so they killed everybody that opposed their rule including Afonja. They started Ilorin Emirate and AbdulSalam became the 1st Emir of Ilorin and was succeeded by Shitta, the emirship has been shared by these twos descendants ever since.

13. On balogun Biala of Ajikobi, he became powerful during the reign of Oba Moma. He maneuvered the other baloguns against Moma and used the Emir's immediate junior brother in a rebellion against him, the Emir was killed and Sulayman was installed. Sulayman was naturally fearful of the powerful balogun(similar to bashorun gaa) and hence was loyal till the British invasion in 1897.

14. Lastly, Ilorin lost the jalumi war but was never at the threat of annihilation by Ibadan. In fact, Ilorin successfully annexed much of the smaller towns of yoruba land as tributary states, including some Ibolo, igbomina and Ekiti towns, even Jebba and Shao were being administered by Ilorin princes until very recently. Ibadan was the Yoruba town that blocked the path of Ilorin expansion southwards.

History is a curious thing, where we have been can explain to us a lot about where we are and it can guide us on where we are going. But history is delicate and should be approached with caution as sometimes when we get to the root of history, we may discover we are not even who we think we are.
Also, everybody moved from somewhere and dominated other tribes at a point. The history of the world is that of migration and no man germinated like a seed where they now call home. Ilorin is what it is, it is not hausa nor fulani nor yoruba, it is more than a tribe, irrespective of language, rulers or it's culture, an homogeneous society has emerged from it's heterogeneous make up and it is better to learn to live with that.
Ilorin is Ilorin.

And I expect more pan-Africa discussions among us not ethnocentrism that was planted by our colonists to always keep us apart.

thanks for your interesting contribution!

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donphilopus:


You thought you had switched to your other moniker before making this comment and you had to mention yourself (Amina) unknowingly. You created multiple monikers just to create this rubbish thread. I'm very sure you're not even hausa. You think you can cause division between the Hausa/Fulani? You must be kidding!

So no be today this edo murkite start to dey lick fulani nyash.

WoruSulyman:
@lawani
@PabloAfricanus

I was searching for historical facts and stumbled upon this interesting thread.

Firstly, I am amazed how black men are clawing at each other's throat with history which we have no way of verifying and at best, we all have biased and distorted knowledge of. To be clear, everybody telling you history; the Yorubas, Fulanis, Hausas, Igbos or even british will only tell you with them at the heroic centre of history, so which ever history you know is as wrong as it is right. Also other races are constantly degrading the black man and some try to deny it's liberty, it is sad we will do worse to ourselves in the name of history, one that divide us, and pride that is yet to raise the black race to the equal of all other race.

I am Ilorin in every sense of it and I have a modest understanding of it's history. I will like to clear some little misgivings I have seen on this thread.

1. Ilorin was founded by neither Afonja nor Alimi, it was a man Ojo isekuse who was the first settler in Ilorin. Ojo was a yoruba man. Ilorin was a meeting point for hunters, Ojo and his family were the sole settlers.

2. Ojo left after a scandal. The Asaju's settled, they are yorubas and settled around the Ilorin sharpening stone, their family house is still there. At this point neither Afonja nor Alimi resides in Ilorin.

3. Then the Sholagberus, they are said to be Fulanis. Then numerous small individual settlers came from both the north and the south. There was no town, just individual settlers, so no king. Though, each settlers congregated by tribe and they had individual leaders. It was said there was serikin gambari then for the hausa settlers. Note; no Afonja, no Alimi.

4. Alimi went to Oyo from Gwandu preaching Islam before backtracking to Ilorin because of political turmoil in the old Oyo empire. It was said that was the first time Afonja heard about the cleric.

5. Afonja had a falling out with the then Alafin because of a war he was sent to fight that he considered a suicide mission. By Oyo tradition, when you go to war it is either you win or you die in battle, if not, you will be compelled to commit suicide back home. Afonja refused and went to hide in Ilorin.

6. Alimi later got to Ilorin too. The Alaafin was furious and sent a punitive expedition to Ilorin for Afonja. Afonja knew he wasn't going to win against Oyo and he consulted Alimi for spiritual and military help.
Note: at this point Afonja had the most military power in the town but there was no king, no leader still individual settlements.

7. Alimi wrote to Gwandu for military support for Jihad, he was obliged. Then came the Jama'a to the area now called Ilorin, it wasn't still a town at that point, Oyo lost because the Oyo army wasn't expecting to meet the Jama'as calvary. The problem wasn't solved get.

8. Alaafin became much angry and sent message to Oyo's vassal states to send military men to finish the Afonja rebels/the Jama'a. The forces in Ilorin could not withstand the might of Oyo, so Alimi again wrote to Gwandu. Gwandu refused citing ongoing Jihad in the north.

9. Alimi informed Afonja that no reinforcement is coming, but they could adopt a strategy called a pre-emptive attack, this meant that before Oyo could organize it's army, Ilorin which is not too far from the old Oyo empire marched on old Oyo empire before they were prepared for war.

10. Old Oyo fell and was burnt to the ground. Former smaller tributary villages of Oyo close to Ilorin were scared of attack from Ilorin and brought gifts. There was vacuum in the leadership of Ilorin which by the fall of Oyo become a baby town. Alimi was far older than Afonja (his real name was Salihu and was given the alias Sheu Alim roughly meaning "knowledgeable elderly one) and by virtue that the superior military power in the town (the jama'as) were loyal to him, he was the defacto leader but never named an Oba or an Emir, he never lived in any palace.

11. He sent for his family from Gwandu, he had four(4) sons and a daughter. After his demise, there was leadership tussle between Afonja, Alimi's sons and the Ilorin mallams(Alimi met some mallams in Ilorin and they accepted him as their leader because of his superior Islamic knowledge). The mallams was laying claim to an Islamic caliphate that won't be hereditary but knowledge based, Afonja because the whole rebellion was about him and there wasn't a king to that point, while the sons wanted to continue where their father stopped.

12. The sons had superior military might, so they killed everybody that opposed their rule including Afonja. They started Ilorin Emirate and AbdulSalam became the 1st Emir of Ilorin and was succeeded by Shitta, the emirship has been shared by these twos descendants ever since.

13. On balogun Biala of Ajikobi, he became powerful during the reign of Oba Moma. He maneuvered the other baloguns against Moma and used the Emir's immediate junior brother in a rebellion against him, the Emir was killed and Sulayman was installed. Sulayman was naturally fearful of the powerful balogun(similar to bashorun gaa) and hence was loyal till the British invasion in 1897.

14. Lastly, Ilorin lost the jalumi war but was never at the threat of annihilation by Ibadan. In fact, Ilorin successfully annexed much of the smaller towns of yoruba land as tributary states, including some Ibolo, igbomina and Ekiti towns, even Jebba and Shao were being administered by Ilorin princes until very recently. Ibadan was the Yoruba town that blocked the path of Ilorin expansion southwards.

History is a curious thing, where we have been can explain to us a lot about where we are and it can guide us on where we are going. But history is delicate and should be approached with caution as sometimes when we get to the root of history, we may discover we are not even who we think we are.
Also, everybody moved from somewhere and dominated other tribes at a point. The history of the world is that of migration and no man germinated like a seed where they now call home. Ilorin is what it is, it is not hausa nor fulani nor yoruba, it is more than a tribe, irrespective of language, rulers or it's culture, an homogeneous society has emerged from it's heterogeneous make up and it is better to learn to live with that.
Ilorin is Ilorin.

And I expect more pan-Africa discussions among us not ethnocentrism that was planted by our colonists to always keep us apart.

Solagberu was a Yoruba Muslim

The first sets of Yoruba Muslim and he was the main character that supported Alimi's son to become the Emir.

Worusulyman where does kabba fit in this? because kabba never once in history pay tributes to ilorin.

WoruSulyman:
@lawani
@PabloAfricanus

I was searching for historical facts and stumbled upon this interesting thread.

Firstly, I am amazed how black men are clawing at each other's throat with history which we have no way of verifying and at best, we all have biased and distorted knowledge of. To be clear, everybody telling you history; the Yorubas, Fulanis, Hausas, Igbos or even british will only tell you with them at the heroic centre of history, so which ever history you know is as wrong as it is right. Also other races are constantly degrading the black man and some try to deny it's liberty, it is sad we will do worse to ourselves in the name of history, one that divide us, and pride that is yet to raise the black race to the equal of all other race.

I am Ilorin in every sense of it and I have a modest understanding of it's history. I will like to clear some little misgivings I have seen on this thread.

1. Ilorin was founded by neither Afonja nor Alimi, it was a man Ojo isekuse who was the first settler in Ilorin. Ojo was a yoruba man. Ilorin was a meeting point for hunters, Ojo and his family were the sole settlers.

2. Ojo left after a scandal. The Asaju's settled, they are yorubas and settled around the Ilorin sharpening stone, their family house is still there. At this point neither Afonja nor Alimi resides in Ilorin.

3. Then the Sholagberus, they are said to be Fulanis. Then numerous small individual settlers came from both the north and the south. There was no town, just individual settlers, so no king. Though, each settlers congregated by tribe and they had individual leaders. It was said there was serikin gambari then for the hausa settlers. Note; no Afonja, no Alimi.

4. Alimi went to Oyo from Gwandu preaching Islam before backtracking to Ilorin because of political turmoil in the old Oyo empire. It was said that was the first time Afonja heard about the cleric.

5. Afonja had a falling out with the then Alafin because of a war he was sent to fight that he considered a suicide mission. By Oyo tradition, when you go to war it is either you win or you die in battle, if not, you will be compelled to commit suicide back home. Afonja refused and went to hide in Ilorin.

6. Alimi later got to Ilorin too. The Alaafin was furious and sent a punitive expedition to Ilorin for Afonja. Afonja knew he wasn't going to win against Oyo and he consulted Alimi for spiritual and military help.
Note: at this point Afonja had the most military power in the town but there was no king, no leader still individual settlements.

7. Alimi wrote to Gwandu for military support for Jihad, he was obliged. Then came the Jama'a to the area now called Ilorin, it wasn't still a town at that point, Oyo lost because the Oyo army wasn't expecting to meet the Jama'as calvary. The problem wasn't solved get.

8. Alaafin became much angry and sent message to Oyo's vassal states to send military men to finish the Afonja rebels/the Jama'a. The forces in Ilorin could not withstand the might of Oyo, so Alimi again wrote to Gwandu. Gwandu refused citing ongoing Jihad in the north.

9. Alimi informed Afonja that no reinforcement is coming, but they could adopt a strategy called a pre-emptive attack, this meant that before Oyo could organize it's army, Ilorin which is not too far from the old Oyo empire marched on old Oyo empire before they were prepared for war.

10. Old Oyo fell and was burnt to the ground. Former smaller tributary villages of Oyo close to Ilorin were scared of attack from Ilorin and brought gifts. There was vacuum in the leadership of Ilorin which by the fall of Oyo become a baby town. Alimi was far older than Afonja (his real name was Salihu and was given the alias Sheu Alim roughly meaning "knowledgeable elderly one) and by virtue that the superior military power in the town (the jama'as) were loyal to him, he was the defacto leader but never named an Oba or an Emir, he never lived in any palace.

11. He sent for his family from Gwandu, he had four(4) sons and a daughter. After his demise, there was leadership tussle between Afonja, Alimi's sons and the Ilorin mallams(Alimi met some mallams in Ilorin and they accepted him as their leader because of his superior Islamic knowledge). The mallams was laying claim to an Islamic caliphate that won't be hereditary but knowledge based, Afonja because the whole rebellion was about him and there wasn't a king to that point, while the sons wanted to continue where their father stopped.

12. The sons had superior military might, so they killed everybody that opposed their rule including Afonja. They started Ilorin Emirate and AbdulSalam became the 1st Emir of Ilorin and was succeeded by Shitta, the emirship has been shared by these twos descendants ever since.

13. On balogun Biala of Ajikobi, he became powerful during the reign of Oba Moma. He maneuvered the other baloguns against Moma and used the Emir's immediate junior brother in a rebellion against him, the Emir was killed and Sulayman was installed. Sulayman was naturally fearful of the powerful balogun(similar to bashorun gaa) and hence was loyal till the British invasion in 1897.

14. Lastly, Ilorin lost the jalumi war but was never at the threat of annihilation by Ibadan. In fact, Ilorin successfully annexed much of the smaller towns of yoruba land as tributary states, including some Ibolo, igbomina and Ekiti towns, even Jebba and Shao were being administered by Ilorin princes until very recently. Ibadan was the Yoruba town that blocked the path of Ilorin expansion southwards.

History is a curious thing, where we have been can explain to us a lot about where we are and it can guide us on where we are going. But history is delicate and should be approached with caution as sometimes when we get to the root of history, we may discover we are not even who we think we are.
Also, everybody moved from somewhere and dominated other tribes at a point. The history of the world is that of migration and no man germinated like a seed where they now call home. Ilorin is what it is, it is not hausa nor fulani nor yoruba, it is more than a tribe, irrespective of language, rulers or it's culture, an homogeneous society has emerged from it's heterogeneous make up and it is better to learn to live with that.
Ilorin is Ilorin.

And I expect more pan-Africa discussions among us not ethnocentrism that was planted by our colonists to always keep us apart.

is the present emir of Ilorin Fulani or Gambari?.