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If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:35pm On Apr 27, 2016
In other words : Is Hell Fire Literal or Symbolic ?

KingEbukasBlog:



Matthew 10:28

28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.


A different kind of body fit for eternity - for either hell or heaven and a different kind of fire . Not the literal fire or the physical body we know .So hell fire is different from the literal fire - the one that can torment the immortal body .

That kind of body is called the resurrection body - a body that is spiritual, and cannot perish

1 Corinthians 15:54

54 When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written:
“Death is swallowed up in victory.”



The immortal body - the resurrection body and soul - would be sent to hell not actually the soul

1 Corinthians 15:35-54

35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.

40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.


Apologies everyone . Very sorry for the confusion .
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by MrPresident1: 8:52pm On Apr 27, 2016
Hell is both a place and condition of human existence. It is not a furnace up there in the skies but a furnace right here on earth.
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:54pm On Apr 27, 2016
MrPresident1:
Hell is both a place and condition of human existence. It is not a furnace up there in the skies but a furnace right here on earth.

Bro Sukkot , this has to be your second account . Ah ah how come you and MrPresident1 have just the same views on anything pertaining to religion undecided
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by ayomidet: 8:56pm On Apr 27, 2016
Hell aint an english word, its a greek word meaning "grave" in english...

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by sukkot: 8:59pm On Apr 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Bro Sukkot , this has to be your second account . Ah ah how come you and MrPresident1 have just the same views on anything pertaining to religion undecided
lolz it shows he is reading the bible very well. we are two different people. the bible tells you what hell is. its a state of heavy suffering on earth. when your nation has been ravaged by poverty and suffering and hunger is what is called hell.

psalms 9 vs 17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. << SO YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE AND NATION OF PEOPLE ARE TURNED INTO HELL. YOU BECOME HELL. YOUR NATION BECOMES HELL. THE BIBLE IS A BOOK THAT HAS TO BE CAREFULLY READ OR YOU END UP PEDDLING MYTHS
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by Amberon: 9:02pm On Apr 27, 2016
If y'all are so oblivious then its better you head to the comic section and stop misinforming the general public. Hell is actual place of torment. remember the rich man and Lazarus? no?

I thought so too

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:06pm On Apr 27, 2016
sukkot:
lolz it shows he is reading the bible very well. we are two different people. the bible tells you what hell is. its a state of heavy suffering on earth. when your nation has been ravaged by poverty and suffering and hunger is what is called hell.

psalms 9 vs 17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. << SO YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE AND NATION OF PEOPLE ARE TURNED INTO HELL. YOU BECOME HELL. YOUR NATION BECOMES HELL. THE BIBLE IS A BOOK THAT HAS TO BE CAREFULLY READ OR YOU END UP PEDDLING MYTHS

But what about the rich man and Lazarus ? cool

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by sukkot: 9:15pm On Apr 27, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


But what about the rich man and Lazarus ? cool
its an allegorical story. the rich man is esau aka the white nation and lazarus is jacob aka the blacks. its an allegorical / prophetic story of what will happen in this world which it is happening now. the white man is rich and we are wretched and poor begging for his crumbs wink


galatians 4 vs 24 Which things are an allegory:

matthew 13 vs 10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by ifenes(m): 9:27pm On Apr 27, 2016
Christians will keep deceiving themselves. Hell fire is a metaphor for the suffering which results from not achieving a proper mental/psychological growth. It is a state one puts his/herself if not in alignment with him/her true self.

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by Jozzy4: 9:28pm On Apr 27, 2016
Amberon:
If y'all are so oblivious then its better you head to the comic section and stop misinforming the general public. Hell is actual place of torment. remember the rich man and Lazarus? no?

I thought so too

tell me pls, what exactly in that story suggests an immaterial soul ?
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by Nobody: 4:21am On Apr 28, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
In other words : Is Hell Fire Literal or Symbolic ?

winner01 , sukkot , gatiano ,Muafrika2 , Joshthefirst bxcode , MrPresident1, unphilaz , Ishilove, Richirich713, OLAADEGBU, vooks, UyiIredia, Scholar8200 , DeepSight, malvisguy212

Yeah, very real

Rev 21
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

God is very nice and kind. There is a side of Him that demons fear.... and they are waiting for that day....

Matthew 8:29 |
And, behold, they(demons) cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by Provie(m): 6:00am On Apr 28, 2016
ifenes:
Christians will keep deceiving themselves. Hell fire is a metaphor for the suffering which results from not achieving a proper mental/psychological growth. It is a state one puts his/herself if not in alignment with him/her true self.
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:28am On Apr 28, 2016
Muafrika2:


Yeah, very real

Rev 21
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

God is very nice and kind. There is a side of Him that demons fear.... and they are waiting for that day....

Matthew 8:29 |
And, behold, they(demons) cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?



Thanks bro wink for your contribution smiley

I know the bible mentioned torments , fire and brimstone . But the question is how does an immaterial being feel the heat of hell fire ?

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by cloudgoddess(f): 6:34am On Apr 28, 2016
ifenes:
Christians will keep deceiving themselves. Hell fire is a metaphor for the suffering which results from not achieving a proper mental/psychological growth. It is a state one puts his/herself if not in alignment with him/her true self.
I like this idea.
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by ojuu4u(m): 7:08am On Apr 28, 2016
[quote author=KingEbukasBlog post=45102726]

But what about the rich man and Lazarus 0


Is the story of lazarus and rich man real? Go back to ur bible, it was just figment of immaginatio of the narrator. Not a real event

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by Joagbaje(m): 7:40am On Apr 28, 2016
Man is a spirit ,The soul is his centre of feelings.
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by Nobody: 8:16am On Apr 28, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Thanks bro wink for your contribution smiley

I know the bible mentioned torments , fire and brimstone . But the question is how does an immaterial being feel the heat of hell fire ?
It is a different kind of fire in the spiritual realm. It is more effective.
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by veecovee: 8:18am On Apr 28, 2016
THE SOUL IS IMMATERIAL TO THIS WORLD, BUT IT IS MATERIAL TO THE SOUL WORLD
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by veecovee: 8:19am On Apr 28, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
In other words : Is Hell Fire Literal or Symbolic ?

winner01 , sukkot , gatiano ,Muafrika2 , Joshthefirst bxcode , MrPresident1, unphilaz , Ishilove, Richirich713, OLAADEGBU, vooks, UyiIredia, Scholar8200 , DeepSight, malvisguy212
Hell fire is real to the soul world. THE SOUL IS IMMATERIAL TO THIS WORLD, BUT IT IS MATERIAL TO THE SOUL WORLD

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by veecovee: 8:22am On Apr 28, 2016
MrPresident1:
Hell is both a place and condition of human existence. It is not a furnace up there in the skies but a furnace right here on earth.
THE SOUL IS IMMATERIAL TO THIS WORLD, BUT IT IS MATERIAL TO THE SOUL WORLD. AND HELLFIRE IS REAL THERE

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by veecovee: 8:23am On Apr 28, 2016
ayomidet:
Hell aint an english word, its a greek word meaning "grave" in english...
THE SOUL IS IMMATERIAL TO THIS WORLD, BUT IT IS MATERIAL TO THE SOUL WORLD. AND HELLFIRE IS REAL THERE

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by veecovee: 8:25am On Apr 28, 2016
sukkot:
its an allegorical story. the rich man is esau aka the white nation and lazarus is jacob aka the blacks. its an allegorical / prophetic story of what will happen in this world which it is happening now. the white man is rich and we are wretched and poor begging for his crumbs wink


galatians 4 vs 24 Which things are an allegory:

matthew 13 vs 10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
THE SOUL IS IMMATERIAL TO THIS WORLD, BUT IT IS MATERIAL TO THE SOUL WORLD. AND HELLFIRE IS REAL THERE. read mark 9:43

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by veecovee: 8:27am On Apr 28, 2016
ifenes:
Christians will keep deceiving themselves. Hell fire is a metaphor for the suffering which results from not achieving a proper mental/psychological growth. It is a state one puts his/herself if not in alignment with him/her true self.
THE SOUL IS IMMATERIAL TO THIS WORLD, BUT IT IS MATERIAL TO THE SOUL WORLD. AND HELLFIRE IS REAL THERE. Read mark 9:43
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by MrPresident1: 8:55am On Apr 28, 2016
veecovee:
THE SOUL IS IMMATERIAL TO THIS WORLD, BUT IT IS MATERIAL TO THE SOUL WORLD. AND HELLFIRE IS REAL THERE

I wonder what will cure you people of eons of brainwashing.

Whatever you like believe.
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by ifenes(m): 9:11am On Apr 28, 2016
veecovee:
THE SOUL IS IMMATERIAL TO THIS WORLD, BUT IT IS MATERIAL TO THE SOUL WORLD. AND HELLFIRE IS REAL THERE. Read mark 9:43

Who wrote Mark 9:43? The new testament is an allegory. It is full of metaphors. Everything is HERE and NOW. Those who cling to the material world are likely to experience lots of suffering/pleasure that comes with programming your mind that way. The State of Mind is all that matters. If you brainwash an individual,they become different as a result of different info to others. Free your Mind from religious virus and you won't experience Hell. You are what you think.
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by ChessUg: 9:23am On Apr 28, 2016
the heat of hellfire is type of heat that is immaterial. The immaterial soul is compartible with that immaterial heat! selah!!

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by MrPresident1: 9:42am On Apr 28, 2016
ayomidet:
Hell aint an english word, its a greek word meaning "grave" in english...

And to buttress the strong point you have made, this is where Israel (the Negros) went to hell:

Ezekiel 31:15
Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him.
16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit:


Hell, grave, pit, they are all the same thing. All nations that forsake God will be cast into the grave, into the pit, into hell. Hell is the symbolic world to mean separation from God, if you are separated from God, you are in hell. Hellish conditions are conditions of human suffering caused when one is forsaken by God.

Psalm 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.


Israel, the Negros are in hell today because they forsook God, they turned to wickedness against the commandments, Law, and ordinances of God, so they descended into hell, into the grave.

And Israel, Negros, are still in hell today awaiting redemption which salvation will come by the coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by Jozzy4: 10:01am On Apr 28, 2016
ChessUg:
the heat of hellfire is type of heat that is immaterial. The immaterial soul is compartible with that immaterial heat! selah!!

to support a lie, more lies have to be told . that best describe ur case.

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by Nobody: 10:04am On Apr 28, 2016
Yep,
Fire in its normal occurrence is very physical and tangible. He'll, even heavenly fire is not the fire we cook with...

It's the fire Moses saw..

There are great angels who are flames of fire like the ones Ezekiel saw...


Ezekiel 1:13 |
As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.


That's PROBABLY the spiritual realm that will hold and torment the guests of hell for the rest of their lives. He'll is a spiritual realm.

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by sukkot: 10:15am On Apr 28, 2016
veecovee:
THE SOUL IS IMMATERIAL TO THIS WORLD, BUT IT IS MATERIAL TO THE SOUL WORLD. AND HELLFIRE IS REAL THERE. read mark 9:43
soul and spirit is the same thing. when the spirit is in a human it is a soul and when you die and it detaches then it is called a spirit

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by LinuxMint: 10:48am On Apr 28, 2016
sukkot:
soul and spirit is the same thing. when the spirit is in a human it is a soul and when you die and it detaches then it is called a spirit
the soul is not same with the spirit. soul is the body, and it dies, but the spirit is what gives the soul life - the breathe. at death, the breathe is simply gone!

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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by UyiIredia(m): 1:02pm On Apr 28, 2016
Hell is separation from God and all His goodness after death so if you die without knowing God you are gonna be left there. I'd still like to keep my options open on who goes to hell. Let is remember the wise words from 2 Timothy 2:19
But God's firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,”. I'll let God decide who goes to hell and who doesn't and won't judge that on the basis of ones belief.

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