OBA OF BENIN MUST BE RESPECTED WITH HIS HEAD BURIED IN ILE-IFE

OBA OF BENIN MUST BE RESPECTED WITH HIS HEAD BURIED IN ILE-IFE

There is one Oba in Nigeria that most of the people have in common, that is Omo N’Oba of Benin. Most ethnic groups, especially from the South, either has claims to him or his subjects put claims on them. Whatever the validity of each claim or novel theories, it shows some relationships between the people of West Africa. In order to solidify that claim, most traditional ceremonies and protocols that are not against the law or human decency must be observed.

Recently there were some discussions about the most senior Oba in Yoruba world communities. Oba Adetona of Ijebu-Ode claimed he was one of the most superior and certainly senior to Alake of Egba/Abeokuta. What is interesting about this is that Oba Adetona always claims that he is from Waddai in Ethiopia and not Yoruba.

The reason this is important is that Omo N’Oba also claimed that he was the father of the Yoruba and not the son.
Whoever is right on these claims, the fact remains about some relationship between them. The same is true of the Ijaw. Before oil became a foreign income curse on Nigeria, Yoruba and Ijaw had common progenitor in the name of Adumu/Adimu/Oduduwa in Ijaw history. Politics and foreign income sharing has shattered any hope of resolving the amicable relationship between them dating back, before Aiyelala in the now Ondo State.

None of the bad relationships between the people of Southern Nigeria today could have broken the alliance between Awolowo and Ernest Ekoli as their leader while Azikiwe supported Chief Samuel Akinsanya in those days. The political rivalries did not prevent Awolowo’s UPN from capturing Edo as Bendel State cementing the histori
cal union between Yoruba and Edo. One has to accept that every ethnic or village deserves its own self-determination.
We cannot leave the Itsekiri out of these families since they are clearly related to the Yoruba. The Oba of Warri/Itsekiri has also been claimed as the son of Oba of Benin. Whether it is the Oba or the people that are related to Benin, the lingual franca or the dialect, in both Benin ruling House and in Warri were/are clearly Yoruba, closer to Ijebu dialects.

Another case in point is the Onitsha Igbo. Some of them still retain Yoruba in their dialects when speaking Igbo language and others trace their ancestors to the same Oba of Benin. Between Igbo, Benin and Yoruba, we have brothers and sisters that have rejected any link between them. Even more important are other ethnic groups from the union of the three that have spread further North and South near the rivers and the ocean.

The fact remains undisputed that it is only recently that the head of Oba of Benin was no longer buried in Ile-Ife. So far, there are no novel theories that can erase the place or location where the heads of Oba of Benin were buried in Ile-Ife. It will not be surprising if in the future, some of the children of Edo that refuse to bear Yoruba names today, also refute the burial place in Ife.

It is not a mystery how Ogiso was overthrown in Edo land after beheading a pregnant woman. The people revolted and called on Ile-Ife to send them Oba. Up till today, the ceremony that is going to be performed by the new Oba will make it clear that he must pay a token before his place can be given or leased. Not only that, this lease must be renewed every time a new Oba of Benin is crowned. So most of the chiefs around him remain Ogiso owners.

It will be difficult to reconcile the lease ceremony if the Oba was originally Ogiso and the reason for burying the head of Oba of Benin in Ile-Ife. As much as many have come up with theories and hypothesis, they have failed to reconcile classical history with their novel theory. What is more important today is how we can use this unity in history to bring our people together instead of creating divisions that drives us further apart.

People are also free to interpret history the way it further their interest for superiority or dominance. The problem is a clash between classical history and novel theories. We must depend on archeology, anthropology and the same history by using scientific methods to buttress our revisions. Other scholars must be able to verify and authenticate most diversions from the acceptable norms. So, we all have more in common than they are willing to accept.

We can also extend this relationship in history to the Hausa in the North. Their history accepts Yoruba as one of the children of the Hausa states but claimed superiority to Yoruba children as children of married women do in today’s western Judeo Christian laws. We know that such aberration was not tolerated in African cultures. But it serves both Muslim and Christian laws of discrimination and exclusion. The same problem existed between Ishmael and Isaac until today.

The relationships between African ethnic groups up to the level of so-called and demeaning word “tribes”, have poisoned the environment resulting into barbaric acts of civil and ethnic wars. If Africans are not fighting one another over land, it a war about gold, diamond, oil or uranium. Even when we speak the same language and accept the same descendants, we always find something to fight about. We are even more willing to accept those rejecting us as families from afar in the new world rather than our neighbors in the old world.

It must be emphasized that this writer does not care where the head of Oba of Benin is buried. But we cannot deny what unites us based on the ambition of each family to turn their village or local government into a country in order to become Prime Minister or President. Each village can go its separate ways without shedding blood, sacrificing the lives of children as soldiers of personal ambition to loot and proliferate in their own kingdom.

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Na una sabi.... E no concern me

Dem fit bury him leg for Cameroon sef

Itunmo gbogbo werey yi ?

D author was drunk when writing. I don't think he would even understand his own writeup when he is sober

jara:
OBA OF BENIN MUST BE RESPECTED WITH HIS HEAD BURIED IN ILE-IFE




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Please correct your fallacy. Onitsha Igbos do not speak one word of Yoruba in their dialect. If you are basing your claim on the statement made by Philip Emeagwali, you are terribly misinformed because Emeagwali made terrible generalization mistakes without confirming them. Igbo and Yoruba languages share similar words together, and the same shared words used in Onitsha Igbo Emeagwali claimed to be 'yoruba' words are generally used in the whole of Igboland and are not exclusive to Onitsha alone to claim they are 'Yoruba words used in Onitsha', when they are only but shared words between both languages. These words shared between Igbo and Yoruba are Onogbo/Ologbo/Nwaonogbo/Nwaologbo for cat, Ogede for Banana, Nti/Eti for ear, Mili/Omi for water etc.

Second, please provide the source to this article of yours or else I would assume it was written by you.

Third, past dead Obas of Bini have never been buried in Ile-Ife. I have challenged some misinformed Yorubas on this forum to provide proof for this misinformation, other than my papa my mama tell me, and they were unable to provide tangible proof except one link to some made-up ostensibly fake website, quoted by some imaginary prince with no verifiable identity. I am well versed in this subject and on the history of the bini. I, therefore, put it to you to provide verifiable proof of evidence of this so-called claim of burial of dead bini Obas in Ile-Ife, otherwise this article does not hold water.

So, what is it here that you do not already know?

Source the Google for more: http://thewillnigeria.com/news/opinion-oba-of-benin-must-be-respected-with-his-head-buried-in-ile-ife/

There is nothing Emeagwali wrote that were not written by Nnamdi Azikiwe. You may need to Google that too.

Also check this out: https://www.nairaland.com/1794927/ile-ife-final-rest-place-oba

Here is a writer trying to bring all the people of Nigeria together but some of you would rather be with Arab, Israeli or come from Egypt.

For more on Delta and Onitsha Yoruba speakers, see https://www.nairaland.com/828430/far-home-yoruba-community-makes

jara:
So, what is it here that you do not already know?

Source the Google for more: http://thewillnigeria.com/news/opinion-oba-of-benin-must-be-respected-with-his-head-buried-in-ile-ife/

There is nothing Emeagwali wrote that were not written by Nnamdi Azikiwe. You may need to Google that too.

Also check this out: https://www.nairaland.com/1794927/ile-ife-final-rest-place-oba

Here is a writer trying to bring all the people of Nigeria together but some of you would rather be with Arab, Israeli or come from Egypt.

For more on Delta and Onitsha Yoruba speakers, see https://www.nairaland.com/828430/far-home-yoruba-community-makes

Again Mr. the first link you quoted is basically where you got the article from, written by some, apparently, Yoruba man fantasizing about the head of the last Bini Oba to be buried in Ile Ife, when that has never been Bini's tradition or culture, and also still licking his sore over an impending loss of the battle of 'supremacy' between the Bini kingdom and Yoruba kingdom. How this so-called purported tradition came out to be still baffles me till today. Apparently, the burial of dead Bini kings in Ile-Ife 'signifies' superiority over the Binis, who are recorded to have established one of the best kingdoms and wielded one of the far most reaching influences in the whole of Africa, wielding influence over a great stretch of Yoruba land up till Lagos state and Western flank of Igbo land. Article source proven but is simply a fantasy by some Yoruba writer.

Second, you provided a link to this same nairaland when I asked you to provide published sources of evidence of this so-called tradition of burial of dead Bini Obas in Ile-Ife, and just like the collective lack of ability of other misinformed Yorubas on this forum, you have failed to provide this very source to prove their claim. Instead, you're providing me with a link to some article on nairaland, where people peddle fantasies and false claims freely on.

Third, the writer is NOT trying to bring anybody together as you have claimed. He is simply fantasizing over wielding some 'dominance' over the Binis who were acknowledged by the Europeans to have established a far more stronger and influential kingdom than any other tribe of West Africa. The kingdoms of Oyo and co. do not even come close to the influence the Bini kingdom wielded. On the contrary, the Igbos, except the Umu Ezechime clan, never established such kingdoms but believed in a republican-style of leadership or parliamentary style system (or council of elders) where everyone or unit in a village is equal to each other and no one or unit lords themself over another but every quarter in a village has an overall representative representing the interest of the unit/quarter in affairs concerning the entire village as a whole - the very same Parliamentary system practiced by the United Kingdom today where the UK has NO president whatsoever but a prime minister who is only but a ceremonial head but instead has a Parliamentary system with a house of commons made up of representatives representing the interest of each constituency of the UK. The parliamentary system is the actual power seat of the UK and in issues affecting the UK, all representatives gather to deliberate collectively on the issue at hand - similar to the traditional Igbo style of council of elders, made up of one elder from each unit/quarter of the village, who governed a village.

Fourth, there are bilingual Yoruba-Igbo settlers on the extreme western end of Delta Igbo land, who are said to be runaway refugees from an ancient fight in a Yoruba state. They settled in Igboland and all of them are Igbo-speaking today. They occupy about 6 villages out of probably 150 or 200 villages in Delta Igboland and about 3 of those villages are said to be completely Igbo in all strata, and the other 3 villages are bilingual in both Olukwumi and Igbo language, Olukwumi being spoken more (especially in the village of Ugbodu where the Olukwumi is the 'purest' compared to Olukwumi spoken in the other 2 villages that have been mixed up with Igbo words, Igbo pronunciation and Igbo accent) by the elders and the Igbo language more by the children. In fact, these people are just every inch like their Anioma neighbours in language, dressing, customs, traditions, etc. except that some elders and some younger ones in 3 Anioma villages speak an additional language in addition to Anioma Igbo. I don't know what you may be thinking but these are Yoruba settlers who settled in Igboland in the past, and not some 'Yoruba influence' on Igboland as you may want to re-interpret it to be. Google is there for more information if you need it. Now, having laid the aces straight, I would pre-suppose that there should be no confusion about this issue.

Finally, you and your cohorts should please give up this unnecessary fantasy of trying to claim a greater kingdom than yours as yours, as if that makes you feel any better. You cannot re-write history nor change the past and most have been recorded in the annals of history. If you want greatness, look for it today and not in the past.

bigfrancis21:


Again Mr. the first link you quoted is basically where you got the article from, written by some, apparently, Yoruba man fantasizing about the head of the last Bini Oba to be buried in Ile Ife, when that has never been Bini's tradition or culture, and also still licking his sore over an impending loss of the battle of 'supremacy' between the Bini kingdom and Yoruba kingdom. How this so-called purported tradition came out to be still baffles me till today. Apparently, the burial of dead Bini kings in Ile-Ife 'signifies' superiority over the Binis, who are recorded to have established one of the best kingdoms and wielded one of the far most reaching influences in the whole of Africa, wielding influence over a great stretch of Yoruba land up till Lagos state and Western flank of Igbo land. Article source proven but is simply a fantasy by some Yoruba writer.

Second, you provided a link to this same nairaland when I asked you to provide published sources of evidence of this so-called tradition of burial of dead Bini Obas in Ile-Ife, and just like the collective lack of ability of other misinformed Yorubas on this forum, you have failed to provide this very source to prove their claim. Instead, you're providing me with a link to some article on nairaland, where people peddle fantasies and false claims freely on.

Third, the writer is NOT trying to bring anybody together as you have claimed. He is simply fantasizing over wielding some 'dominance' over the Binis who were acknowledged by the Europeans to have established a far more stronger and influential kingdom than any other tribe of West Africa. The kingdoms of Oyo and co. do not even come close to the influence the Bini kingdom wielded. On the contrary, the Igbos, except the Umu Ezechime clan, never established such kingdoms but believed in a republican-style of leadership or parliamentary style system (or council of elders) where everyone or unit in a village is equal to each other and no one or unit lords themself over another but every quarter in a village has an overall representative representing the interest of the unit/quarter in affairs concerning the entire village as a whole - the very same Parliamentary system practiced by the United Kingdom today where the UK has NO president whatsoever but a prime minister who is only but a ceremonial head but instead has a Parliamentary system with a house of commons made up of representatives representing the interest of each constituency of the UK. The parliamentary system is the actual power seat of the UK and in issues affecting the UK, all representatives gather to deliberate collectively on the issue at hand - similar to the traditional Igbo style of council of elders, made up of one elder from each unit/quarter of the village, who governed a village.

Fourth, there are bilingual Yoruba-Igbo settlers on the extreme western end of Delta Igbo land, who are said to be runaway refugees from an ancient fight in a Yoruba state. They settled in Igboland and all of them are Igbo-speaking today. They occupy about 6 villages out of probably 150 or 200 villages in Delta Igboland and about 3 of those villages are said to be completely Igbos in all strata, and the other 3 villages are bilingual in both Olukwumi and Igbo language, Olukwumi being spoken more (especially in the village of Ugbodu where the Olukwumi is the 'purest' compared to Olukwumi spoken in the other 2 villages that have been mixed up with Igbo words, Igbo pronunciation and Igbo accent) by the elders and the Igbo language more by the children. In fact, these people are just every inch like their Anioma neighbours in language, dressing, customs, traditions, etc. except that some elders and some younger ones in 3 Anioma villages speak an additional language in addition to Anioma Igbo. I don't know what you may be thinking but these are Yoruba settlers who settled in Igboland in the past, and not some 'Yoruba influence' on Igboland as you may want to re-interpret it to be. Google is there for more information if you need it. Now, having laid the aces straight, I would pre-suppose that there should be no confusion about this issue.

Finally, you and your cohorts should please give up this unnecessary fantasy of trying to claim a greater kingdom than yours as yours, as if that makes you feel better. You cannot re-write history nor change the past and most have been recorded in the annals of history. If you want greatness, look for it today and not in the past.

Mr man continue with you lies and hatred for the Yoruba people which you continue to project via deliberate falsehood and long winding illogical arguments, you are not unnoticed.

All these nonsense will end when the new Omonoba is crowned and his first port of call is Ile-Ife to pray and propitiate his forebears for a successful reign, only then will haters and spreaders of lies like yourself will be put to shame.

Igbos never had an empire, that is why they are perpetual political neophytes in Nigeria, your people do not have what it takes to lead or operate in a pluralist empire, you are only glorified villagers.

MrPresident1:


Mr man continue with you lies and hatred for the Yoruba people which you continue to project via deliberate falsehood and long winding illogical arguments, you are not unnoticed.

All these nonsense will end when the new Omonoba is crowned and his first port of call is Ile-Ife to pray and propitiate his forebears for a successful reign, only then will haters and spreaders of lies like yourself will be put to shame.

Igbos never had an empire, that is why they are perpetual political neophytes in Nigeria, your people do not have what it takes to lead or operate in a pluralist empire, you are only glorified villagers.

Mr Man, lol I am not a hater of anybody. I am only pointing out facts straight, whatever you think of me is out of your volition.

bigfrancis21:


Mr Man, lol I am not a hater of anybody. I am only pointing out facts straight, whatever you think of me is out of your volition.

Facts? lol.

You are intimidated by the great and mighty Yoruba race .

Omonoba will first visit his spiritual base, Ile-Ife, to pray to his fathers , then second he will go to Oyo to greet his father and brother, the Alaafin , then he will now go around to greet his other brothers, Orangun of Ila, Olowu of Owu, Onipopo of Popo, Onisabe of Sabe, Alaketu of Ketu .

Then controversy will die.

I wasted some time trying to open your eyes not realizing you have an agenda. There you go comparing whatever you have with the British. Nobody told you they have a king?

Anyone can compare your first answer denying any Yoruba enclave and after you have been educated; accepting same with reasons you have been educated with. I don't blame you, it is not your fault but the fault of those trying to call their father, a son. Not even Oba of Benin whose head should be buried in Ife denied Yoruba/ Benin relationship. Only the uneducated, uninformed and trouble makers looking for Yoruba shoulders to stand:

This historical fact on the Oranmiyan Dynesty in Benin was confirmed in the most recent book of the Oba of Benin under the title "Cradle of Ideas" a compendium of speeches and writings of Omonoba Erediauwa of Great Benin" edited by Osarhieme Benson Osadolor and published 2013 where the highly respected monarch was quoted as saying during his opening Address on Thursday 29th April 1982 at the exhibition of The Lost Treasures of Ancient Benin. "We cannot discuss Igueghae without discussing the historical link between Ife and Benin. There is no doubt that both the Ife Royal House and the Benin Royal House have a common ancestor The point of disagreement is who that ancestor was and where he came from" page 157.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201602221166.html

You should Google Iwo Eleru 10,000 Before Christ compared to Benin in the 13 century after the Oba civilized Ogoni land.

Find out about Oduduwa Before Jesus Christ: https://www.nairaland.com/1370182/ile-ife-existed-before-birth-jesus

bigfrancis21:


Mr Man, lol I am not a hater of anybody. I am only pointing out facts straight, whatever you think of me is out of your volition.

MrPresident1:


Facts? lol.

You are intimidated by the great and mighty Yoruba race .

Omonoba will first visit his spiritual base, Ile-Ife, to pray to his fathers , then second he will go to Oyo to greet his father and brother, the Alaafin , then he will now go around to greet his other brothers, Orangun of Ila, Olowu of Owu, Onipopo of Popo, Onisabe of Sabe, Alaketu of Ketu .

Then controversy will die.

Lol. Objectivity is being confused for 'intimidation'. If for anything, 'intimidated' best describes the writer of the so-called article above. Lol.

bigfrancis21:


Lol. Objectivity is being confused for 'intimidation'. If for anything, 'intimidated' best describes the writer of the so-called article above. Lol.

One of the core corner stones of objectivity is the ability of an asserted fact to be empirically verifiable. My igbo people lived in villages until the miracle of the whiteman discovered them, igbos were simple minded villagers until oyinbo found them, na lie?

Your so called objectivity will be trashed and your intimidated mindset proven on the day Omonoba visits FIRST Ile-Ife to propitiate his forebears.

Igbos and Yorubas are brothers, although Yoruba is the elder brother , everything between us is competition, academics, sports, socials, culture, commerce, etc., what egbon owns belong to aburo, and what aburo owns belong to egbon.

jara:
I wasted some time trying to open your eyes not realizing you have an agenda. There you go comparing whatever you have with the British. Nobody told you they have a king?

Anyone can compare your first answer denying any Yoruba enclave and after you have been educated; accepting same with reasons you have been educated with. I don't blame you, it is not your fault but the fault of those trying to call their father, a son. Not even Oba of Benin whose head should be buried in Ife denied Yoruba/ Benin relationship. Only the uneducated, uninformed and trouble makers looking for Yoruba shoulders to stand:



http://allafrica.com/stories/201602221166.html

You should Google Iwo Eleru 10,000 Before Christ compared to Benin in the 13 century after the Oba civilized Ogoni land.

Find out about Oduduwa Before Jesus Christ: https://www.nairaland.com/1370182/ile-ife-existed-before-birth-jesus

Lol. You seem to be deflecting from the discourse at hand. I never said anywhere that the Yorubas and Binis didn't have any relations. I do know that they did. However, that is not the bone of contention here. The crux of the matter is there seems to be no proof of the widely touted tradition of the burial of dead bini Obas in Ile-Ife. Bini scholars have refuted this severally as false and this claim or 'past practice' seems to be only circulating among Yorubas.

Once more I've asked you to provide not just me but readers who may chance upon this thread, with verifiable published evidence of this claim of 'past tradition' and you have failed, time after time, to provide me with such and you expect me or any objective reader to take your word for it? Really?? I'm sorry but I, nor any objective reader, cannot accept your claim for it.

Finally, providing me with links to this same nairaland where just any Tom, D!ck and Harry with free MB data to the internet can open any thread of his volition and post any information whatsoever is highly less acceptable from you. Please do better if you can.

You are in denial. No need wasting my time with you.

[size=18pt]The OP is right. But isn't smallFrancis an Ibo? Why is he carrying Yoruba and Bini matter for head like gala?[/size]

jara:
You are in denial. No need wasting my time with you.

Lol. I should be saying the same to you for your lack of ability to provide any sources of evidence. You've wasted my time for the last 2 to 3 days arguing aimlessly and providing no tangible piece of evidence whatsoever.

MrPresident1:


One of the core corner stones of objectivity is the ability of an asserted fact to be empirically verifiable. My igbo people lived in villages until the miracle of the whiteman discovered them, igbos were simple minded villagers until oyinbo found them, na lie?

Your so called objectivity will be trashed and your intimidated mindset proven on the day Omonoba visits FIRST Ile-Ife to propitiate his forebears.

Igbos and Yorubas are brothers, although Yoruba is the elder brother , everything between us is competition, academics, sports, socials, culture, commerce, etc., what egbon owns belong to aburo, and what aburo owns belong to egbon.

Well, it is obvious you have nothing intellectual to contribute to the discourse at hand. In the spirit of of solidarity, you could barely do the op the favour of corroborating his 'claims' with evidence. Oh well, yea I remember. The last time I checked, there was none. It amazes me how some people would rather dwell in fantasies than be objective and accept the truth for what it is.

bigfrancis21:


Well, it is obvious you have nothing intellectual to contribute to the discourse at hand. In the spirit of of solidarity, you could barely do the op the favour of corroborating his 'claims' with evidence. Oh well, yea I remember. The last time I checked, there was none. It amazes me how some people would rather dwell in fantasies than be objective and accept the truth for what it is.

smallFrancis is such an 'intellectual' ALL his 'intellectual' findings are ALWAYS pro-Ibo and anti-Yoruba. Just accept that you are an
anti-Yoruba 'intellectual' and stop all these charade 'cos you fooling no one but your damn self boy.

Pls no space in cameroun.. make dem go gambia

DrLee:
Dem fit bury him leg for Cameroon sef