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Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by blueAgent(m): 11:00am On Jun 09, 2016 |
A major issue of contention between Christains and Scientists ,has been, that of the age of the Universe .most Christains believe that world is 6000yrs old .as calculated by Arch Bishop James Ussher. his calculation were based on when Adam and Eve were created .while Scientist using mordern dating technology believe the world is over 17Billion years old.both groups are partly right. The Bible revels many important facts about a subject .if one reads all scriptures that pertain to it.using the various bible verses on this subject ,will help us to understand the truth about the age of the Universe and the greatness of its maker,God. Genesis1:1-31 The First chapter of genesis contains the primary creation account in Bible but their are other scriptures in the Bible which add important information about the creation of the orignal Earth. that were not included in the genesis account. In Job38. God is speaking to an afflicted man named Job about many aspects of what God did when He first created the earth and the entire Universe. He says to Job: “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?…Who laid the measures thereof?… Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner stone thereof; when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?” God speaks of making the clouds in verse 9, setting the boundaries of the oceans in verses 8-12, and and there is a reference to polar icecaps in verses 29-30 where the “waters” of “the deep” are “frozen.” In verse 33, God asks Job if he knows about the “ordinances” (laws) of heaven? In other words, God asks Job if he knows about the laws of the Universe which govern its movements and its composition. In Isaiah 45, God also makes references to the time when he first made the heavens and the earth. In verses 12 and 18, God states: “I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded…For thus says the LORD who created the heavens: God himself that formed the earth and made it… he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited; I am the LORD; and there is none else.” [Emphasis added.] Notice that while this verse asserts God made the heavens and the earth and created man upon that earth, God does not state that he “made mankind on the earth” as soon as the earth was created. These “stars” were angels (Rev. 12:4), also described as “sons of God.” (Of course, literal stars do not sing.) Notice that it says “all” of them “shouted” and “sang together.” There were not yet demons at the time of creation in Job38. This scripture shows that the earth was created in a wonderful and beautiful condition. There was great joy and singing. Now read Genesis 1:2. This verse is mistranslated and does not reflect the meaning of the original Hebrew. The King James Version of the Bible says, “And the earth was without form, and void.” Three key Hebrew words are all mistranslated here, thus obscuring, and actually hiding, the verse’s true meaning. The word translated “was” is hayah. The words for “without form, and void” are tohu and bohu. Correctly translated, they mean “chaotic, in confusion, waste and empty.” In short, a perfectly created earth ( vs. 1), “became chaotic and confused” (vs. 2). Tohu and bohu are translated identically in Jeremiah 4:23. Isaiah 34:11, among other places, translates this phrase as “confusion and emptiness.” It is evident that at some point after the heavenly beings shouted for joy when God first made the earth “to be inhabited,” God delegated to Lucifer and his complement of angels the supervision of the physical earth. The earth was their place of “habitation.” When Lucifer later rebelled by leaving his place of habitation to ascend to heaven in a rebellion to dethrone God, Lucifer was defeated and hurled back down to their proper place of “habitation.” Jesus Christ stated in Luke 10:18 that he had seen Satan fall like lightning from heaven. Jesus had to be referring to his own pre-existent Divine state (John 1:1-3 , 10-14 , 17:5 , Philippians 2:5-11 ) when he saw Satan hurled down to the earth. Since the pre-existent Jesus was the one who “made all things” in the first place (John 1:1-3 ), he very likely was the one who threw Lucifer (later called “Satan”) back to his original place of habitation. However, the beautiful earth that God originally made to be inhabited by Lucifer and many angels was destroyed in the course of this heavenly warfare. Jude 6 records that Satan and the angels who left their proper place of habitation were placed in “chains under darkness .” Jude 13 likens them to “wandering stars” amidst the “raging waves of the sea , foaming out their own shame.” This post-rebellion state of the earth (with raging waves and darkness) sounds exactly as the state of the earth in Genesis1:1 Conclusion God made a beautiful and perfect Earth and Universe Billions of years ago.that Earth was destoryed when Satan and his angels who rebelled against God .were thrown out of heaven to earth. the creation account in Genesis 1. is were God restored the earth.this is also confirmed by Psalm 104:30 (Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.) says God renew the Earth. The seven days of the creation week are when God renewed a damaged, injured earth then completely covered with water (Gen. 1:2) So Man has been on earth for about 6000yrs as accounted by christains.but the Earth and the Universe were made by God almightly billions of years ago before man was created. God: General over all Dominion 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by donnffd(m): 11:14am On Jun 09, 2016 |
blueAgent: The age is actually 13.8 billion years, not 17 billion... So Man has been on earth for about 6000yrs as accounted by christains. How do you explain the bones of humans that are 200,000years old |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by harlems02: 11:15am On Jun 09, 2016 |
Thanks...what an expository. Good job |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by dblackninja: 11:22am On Jun 09, 2016 |
God created the perfect uninhabited earth billions of years ago for the game of chess (a battle ground) to test his strength. Destroyed it when he was chasing Satan around like Tom and Jerry. Then reconstructed it 6,000 years ago--this time with humans to praise him for his mighty strength in the victory against the agent of darkness Satan. You can thank me for the summary Christians using any means to justify the many inconsistencies of the bible..making what is already absurd more ridiculous. 4 Likes |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:24pm On Jun 09, 2016 |
donnffd: Those are Pre - Adamites . |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by Brigance(m): 6:22pm On Jun 09, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:What in holy grail is Pre-adamites? Can this get more ridiculous? 2 Likes |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:25pm On Jun 09, 2016 |
Brigance: I'm an old earth creationist and there was life before Adam . Do we have a problem here ? 1 Like |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by Brigance(m): 6:36pm On Jun 09, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Maybe you should chalk up your claims with credible reference. E.g, Bible. |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:52pm On Jun 09, 2016 |
Brigance: Let me ask you just two questions 1 . Did the bible ever mention or agree to any age of the earth or universe even tacitly 2. Did the bible mention that Adam was the first man 2 Likes |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by Brigance(m): 7:24pm On Jun 09, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Let's make use of your logic. Let's assume for your sake that the above questions answers negative. How does that justify your exegesis claim on old earth creationism? Does proving a wrong prove a right? |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by johnydon22(m): 11:10pm On Jun 09, 2016 |
God made a beautiful and perfect Earth and Universe Billions of years God made a beautiful earth then struggled with satan in heaven (Heavenly politics and coup) and then out of all the billions of a trillion planet in this universe remarkable only earth was caught in between the tuff war. Only earth remarkably a chance it is did God choose to send satan to out of countless other planets. And then earth had to be restored.. Hahahaha cool story.. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by blueAgent(m): 8:28pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
johnydon22: Clown. God gave the devil the earth to be incharge of, before the devil's rebellion. so it is logical for God to still send him back to the earth. |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by blueAgent(m): 8:40pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: True. those lives that existed before Adam were dinosaurs and Serpertine creatures .proved and discovered by Scientists. |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by blueAgent(m): 8:41pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
donnffd: Those are bones of Dinosaurs and other monster creatures destoryed during the conflict. |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by blueAgent(m): 8:42pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by blueAgent(m): 8:45pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
dblackninja: You should be ashamed that Science just proved the authenticity of the Bible and that disproves all your Evolution garbage. |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by donnffd(m): 9:02pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
blueAgent: No, bones of dinosaurs date back to 65million years ago What i am talking of is "Homo sapiens sapiens" aka Modern humans (your species) bones that are 200,000years old, how do you explain that? |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by johnydon22(m): 9:06pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
blueAgent: lol you seem to be in love with the word "clown" .. you argue with emotions and not objectivity. anyway cool story |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by Brigance(m): 9:27pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
blueAgent: Your humour doesn't fall short of awe. So, there was a beginning before the beginning recorded in the bible where the best of God's imagination were dinosaurs? lol.. I wonder what sins those ones committed before he sent them extinct.. or dinosaurs were homosexuals too 1 Like |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by Nobody: 9:56pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
Haha Creationist Always Trying To Chip In Lie To Explain The Bible And Still Don't Mk Any Sense Eh This Same Creationist That Don't Believe In dinosaur Kia When Will U Guys Stop Lying?? 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by dblackninja: 3:15am On Jun 15, 2016 |
blueAgent:{Science+} and {Bible-} Can never ever harmonize. How can science, which shows the truth give proof for a fa ble -- the bi ble ? Delusion I call it. Destruction and renewal of earth because of a single, mischievous entity created by god? Lmao That even shows the omnipotency of your God. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by blueAgent(m): 9:28am On Jun 15, 2016 |
dblackninja:Ww I laugh at your ingnorance.which Science shows the truth? the same science that cannot explain the origin of Man,Life and the Universe without contractdicting itself? Science is overhyped. it is proffession like any other.it is non-human.it does not even understand its on princples and how they came about. like gravity,elements,magnetism,force,motion,life. Just quit fooling yourself. |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by blueAgent(m): 9:28am On Jun 15, 2016 |
[quote author=Brigance post=46578580] Your humour doesn't fall short of awe. So, there was a beginning before the beginning recorded in the bible where the best of God's imagination were dinosaurs? lol.. I wonder what sins those ones committed before he sent them extinct.. or dinosaurs were homosexuals too How does this make the Bible creation story and the age of the universe invalid? Try and put your brain on, before you talk. |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by blueAgent(m): 9:34am On Jun 15, 2016 |
johnydon22: You fit the word clown.whats the objectivity?are you saying that God can't decide were to place the Devil? |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by blueAgent(m): 9:38am On Jun 15, 2016 |
donnffd: There is nothing like Homo sapiens.stop believing all those Evolution crap.invented to decieve people. |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by johnydon22(m): 9:40am On Jun 15, 2016 |
blueAgent: Its a very cool story |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by donnffd(m): 9:58am On Jun 15, 2016 |
blueAgent: LOOOOOOL, ok sir, i would stop...lmao People would never cease to amaze me 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by urahara(m): 10:14am On Jun 15, 2016 |
blueAgent: Looooooiooooooooooooooolz. |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by urahara(m): 10:15am On Jun 15, 2016 |
[quote a uthor=KingEbukasBlog post=46420486] Those are Pre - Adamites . [/quote] Ebuka stop doing this to yourself 1 Like |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by urahara(m): 10:18am On Jun 15, 2016 |
johnydon22: The way and manner xtians cook things up to defend their fairy tales. 1 Like |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by blueAgent(m): 10:39am On Jun 15, 2016 |
donnffd: Am happy i did. if you have facts let see them. about the Homo sapiens and your evolution. thats how we learn. |
Re: Bible And Science Proves The Age Of The Universe. by KingEbukaNaija: 10:54am On Jun 15, 2016 |
johnydon22: This is a cooler story ; nature created man and other living creatures and would obliterate him using epidemics , asteroids , global warming or evolution by mistake . But no atheist condemns uncle nature and seems to have accepted these events as the fate of man . And just somehow brother blueagent , they feel uncomfortable when they knew God would destroy his own creations in Hell . Only fools would be deceived paying attention to these lots I know how atheists will respond . They'll say its reality but somehow just somehow they are uncomfortable with the fairytale And I thought common sense was common cc : urahara , dblackninja , Brigance , donnffd 3 Likes
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