geoworldedu:
But it is written in the book of Revelation and the book of Revelation is about the future. So how can heaven's future be filled with scrolls, candlesticks, incense and other archaic stuffs when we are already enjoying Hi-Tech stuff and 4G in the world?

ojaysam25:


so in your own opinion the bible should be updated regularly to suit the modern age...what if computers and iPad becomes outdated 2000 years from now...
The wisdom of men is foolishness to God...I just hope you dont incure curse on yourself

ojaysam25:

so what if the book of revelation says that heaven is fill with something you don't know...the bible is written and revelations were given then due to human understanding...you guys should stop this already

ojaysam25:


so in your own opinion the bible should be updated regularly to suit the modern age...what if computers and iPad becomes outdated 2000 years from now...
The wisdom of men is foolishness to God...I just hope you dont incure curse on yourself

Bacteriologist:


God you're a füčking DUMBASS. Where did i say the Bible should be updated regularly? You füčking liar?

The foolishness of men like you is COMEDY to me. Think or remained CURSED. You sick religious fück.

davien:
I've been asking theists why god needs a throne for ages now... does it get tired of standing?

When did it decide to make a sit when they say it was the only thing existing?

Where did it know anything talk less of everything if nothing existed before it?

How does it manage to be eternal without dependence on anything to achieve or maintain this?

How could it speak any language since it is the only thing there ever was? isn't language a common thing among groups of people?

What does it need nostrils for and how did it come by it when there wasn't anything to smell in existence?

It's questions like these many folks forgo when they invent and worship gods with human features and characters..

You have a brain, use it..

Bacteriologist:


God you're a füčking DUMBASS. Where did i say the Bible should be updated regularly? You füčking liar?

The foolishness of men like you is COMEDY to me. Think or remained CURSED. You sick religious fück.

Smhaykins:


Gime ur WhatsApp, let's chat.
Logically it's easy to conclude dat der z no God.
But dey r many reasons u cannot deny z existence...
Like having similar stories in Quran n bible even though Muhammad was unlettered...which nullifies d notion of him reading Bible before claiming revelation of quran

davien:
If you have reasons, state them here.

OtemAtum:
He's looking for new convert planning to brainwash you all over again

Bacteriologist:


God you're a füčking DUMBASS. Where did i say the Bible should be updated regularly? You füčking liar?

The foolishness of men like you is COMEDY to me. Think or remained CURSED. You sick religious fück.

davien:
If you have reasons, state them here.

Smhaykins:


How come, Quran n bible av similar stories, even though Mohammed was unlettered

ojaysam25:

ignorance and fear are the most important weapon of the devil....it seems the formal has come to stay in your life...

Danhumprey:


Damn!

Bacteriologist ooo!

Bacteriologist:


You accuse me of ignorance yet you spell "former" as "formal."

Irredemably stupid religious bigot.

ojaysam25:

thank you...tho a typical error

u have the liberty of operating on a free basics airtel Sim and a faceless forum...you can afford to spit out gibberish....thank you

Perfectbeing:
Where sin abound, the grace of God did much more abound.

The grace of God is with your spirit. Peace..

davien:
Explain the bolded. And before you go into the religious books you need to let us know what you believe first, can't be debating if your stance on a subject is hidden.

theoneJabulani:
obviously, u should have realized DAT when Jesus came to earth to learn carpentry to build mansions in heaven

Ahasco:


A revolution is taking place in the world, and you all can see it. The time of worshiping anything is fast coming to its abrupt end. I beg you all religious people to discern the time even the book of lies(Bible) confusedly talked about it, but it's sad many still don't get it. Don't be afraid to ask your gods questions they prohibit you from asking, and threaten you with death if you do so, even death itself is sweet its only transition and transformation

Smhaykins:


The bolded means Mohammed never had a formal education, so we cannot say he had read the bible before given revelation abt Quran.

So if God does not exists, n these books r not from God, ow come we have d same story in Bible n Quran.

Quran was written 2,000 years after Bible n in a different continent.
Bible was written in Europe, Quran written in d Arabian after 2,000 years n they av same message.

davien:
I'm going to approach this in the simplest way you can understand, i did not claim Muhammed read the Bible for any revelation so what is your point here?


Again I am not arguing over that position as it's a Christian argument over Islam. I am approaching you from the first principle. So oga, how do you know god exists to inspire anyone to write anything down? Did you have a revelation about Islam? Or dem put bead for your hand slap your head to dey recite quran? (jokes aside we need to start from why you believe a god exists)

Smhaykins:


U r not getting my point, let me put it like dis...if der z no God... ow come Jesus was able to raise d death, heal the blind and other miracles ...did he use science to do all dis miracles..if science can cure the blind, can science raise d death

davien:
How did you confirm any of that happening?

From your replies I can tell that your belief is based on the "holy books". If that's true, ask yourself why you prefer one book over another and why the god that inspired the one you think is true is happy or content with false doctrines circulating? Shouldn't gods book be the only holy book there is?

Smhaykins:


I was able to confirm Jesus miracles cos it z written in d bible...a book dat was written in Europe...Mohammed came after 2,000 years in another continent....he brought Quran, and Quran also confirmed dat Jesus performed this miracles... Muhammed cud neither read nor write( we cud have said he already read Bible before writing quran). If d stories about Jesus miracles were false as written in d Bible...ow come quran, a book written in a different generation, a different language, by a prophet of a different religion also confirmed d miracles... So I hope with dis point i should b able to convince and not
confuse u to bliv dat those miracles were truth....so d question remains was d miracles don with science.

If u insists d Bible lied abt d miracles, did quran also lied abt Jesus miracles.

Let's kip dat aside, if der z no God n der z nothing like miracle, wat of magic( I know u will say it's a trick), wat of metaphysical power used by witches, wizard n herbalist, z it also science, cos u cant tell me u don't bliv der z a God n u will bliv der z satan or devil or demons, so don't bring d Idea dat dey r empowered by Satan. So wats d source of power of witches n wizard if it's not science.

Smhaykins:


U r not getting my point, let me put it like dis...if der z no God...ow come Jesus was able to raise d death, heal the blind and other miracles...did he use science to do all dis miracles..if science can cure the blind, can science raise d death

davien:
The Jews were in Mecca at Muhammed time and Jewish traditions were spread by word of mouth regardless of him being literate it's unmistakable he wouldn't have heard the many Jewish and Christian preachers in his city. And the Bible was assembled in Rome not Europe. And science is humanity's tool that we use to gain knowledge of the world around us, not a religion neither a point to make in this matter unless you are against knowledge.
Why so defensive? You're already trying to defend the Bible and Quran not being lies when I've not even claimed they are yet. The question is simple, how did you confirm the miracles as written in those holy books are true? What of the book of Mormon that came after each book, is that one false? What's your answer here?

Lol... I'm glad we're getting to this point, now I do not believe a god/gods exist because no evidence can be made for such a thing in the first place.

Magic/spirit/ghost/herbalist/god all rely on you already believing in them without having to have seen them work, now that the world is being ravaged by coronavirus, where are the faith healers?

You are there operating a mobile device engineered by human hands that allows you to communicate at the speed of light and are trying to convince me that Muhammed in his 40s in 600AD got a revelation from the creator of the universe in a cave? And that creator wants you to face a certain direction when praying so he can hear you better? A human being like you that don't know if he had a mental illness like we can now confirm religions can be started by schizophrenics.