Very very sad. Militants killing innocent people? Very sad. But are they Ijaw militants? There was news earlier this year that militants are now present in Ikorodu(Lagos) and Ogun. Looks like it was true afterall.

I think Opc should rise again and be fully equipped, the vigilante should be equipped as well.. Nigeria is a finished nation, buhari should just gently resign.. It is enough baba U don try abeg, no food, no money, health sector is totally down, in pasuma's voice "people just dey die like birdflu . To be serious Apc has failed the masses...#buharimustleaveoooooooooooooooooo

Wyttcat:
If this is true, the community should start killing all Ijaws around them. This is what you do immediately, not waiting for Fg. The creek will still be dealt with by the military. Any Yoruba that will say a word in defense of niger delta when the region is blown up will meet the same fate the innocent 15 people.

How do you know they are ijaws ?
"Militant" is an english not an ijaw language.

God will help you , somehow your identity will be revealed , then maybe you'll be able to explain why your people left your Oyel land to come and cause trouble in brown roof republic


Then maybe you might just live to share your experience on NL

Funnicator:
Yoruba's were having field day when IPOB peaceful protesters in Onitsha and Enugu were shot and killed by Nigerian Policemen and Army.

Now calamity has befallen them. RIP to the dead.

RIP to the dead. - Innalilahi wa ina ileihi rajiun

Lets hope irresponsible and incompetent officials do not jump into their usual cop-out position by calling the invaders, Fulani herdsmen, without any evidence.

Amosun needs to focus on addressing the real needs of Ogun State residents instead of wasting his spit on opposing responsible grazing zones.

As for you Igbo and Yoruba folks on this thread who are insulting each other on this thread - I say, a big Shame On You!

Wyttcat:
If this is true, the community should start killing all Ijaws around them. This is what you do immediately, not waiting for Fg. The creek will still be dealt with by the military. Any Yoruba that will say a word in defense of niger delta when the region is blown up will meet the same fate the innocent 15 people.

Coward. You can only type that from the comfort of your room

They are Yoruba militants. Ijaw militants have no business coming to Ogun state when they have overwhelming assignment in their region

freeze001:
Hmmm. The rise in crime in this country is unprecedented. When this govt says they have kept their promise on improving security I always wonder whether if is only boko haram that is d source of insecurity. Meanwhile homes are burgled, people are robbed n raped everyday, others are killed and I'm sure the victims don't feel any less fear and apprehension than this affected by Boko haram attacks.

Too many cult groups springing up and going on a killing spree. At this point though I need to make clear that the militants have always taken responsibility for any attacks. They also make it clear that they are not carrying out attacks against persons but against oil installations. Until I hear or read of their admission to this attacks then I must assume that a rag tag group of criminals has been put together for some ominous reason and is deliberately fuelling a narrative designed to make d Niger Delta militants appear to be the culprits.

I am more inclined to this view because with d fulani herdsmen attacks, they come out and openly admit their crimes with their unjustifiable reasons and the Nigerian government shields rather than arrest n prosecute them.

Such good command of English. Am impressed

nduchucks:
RIP to the dead. - Innalilahi wa ina ileihi rajiun

Lets hope irresponsible and incompetent officials do not jump into their usual cop-out position by calling the invaders, Fulani herdsmen, without any evidence.

Ajimobi needs to focus on addressing the real needs of Ogun State residents instead of wasting his spit on opposing responsible grazing zones.

As for you Igbo and Yoruba folks on this thread who are insulting each other on this thread - I say, a big Shame On You!

One real need is NO GRAZING ROUTES OR ZONES which he has addressed with dispatch! You are there considering the culture of nomads as more important than owners of land and farmers who do not roam abi?
If they cannot invest in proper ranches as business ventures, there's massive arable land for roaming and grazing up north. Sambisa alone is rumoured to be bigger than Lagos or even Enugu State.

freeze001:


One real need is NO GRAZING ROUTES OR ZONES which he has addressed with dispatch! You are there considering the culture of nomads as more important than owners of land and farmers who do not roam abi?
If they cannot invest in proper ranches as business ventures, there's massive arable land for roaming and grazing up north. Sambisa alone is rumoured to be bigger than Lagos or even Enugu State.

Amosun's opposition to grazing zones fail to solve the problem the zones will help to resolve. This is a sign of irresponsible leadership. If he opposes the grazing bill, what solutions has he proffered? None that I am aware of. The status quo remains unacceptable.

What is this?

Most likely the attackers are fulani herdsmen fighting for grazing land in Ogun State.

Cc SuperS1Panther, MayorofLagos.

Let me say the truth. Walahi talahi!
There are many yoruba pipeline vandals in Ogun state especially around Arepo and Imushin. They are usually armed to the teeth. The reason why they have attacked the community is that someone may have snitched on them. These are not NDA, these are pipeline vandal who make a living selling cheap fuel from burst pipelines.

If this story is true RIP to the dead!

nduchucks:


Ajimobi's opposition to grazing zones fail to solve the problem the zones will help to resolve. This is a sign of irresponsible leadership. If he opposes the grazing bill, what solutions has he proffered? None that I am aware of. The status quo remains unacceptable.

Why must it be a national problem? The first issue is that d government doesn't consider their dangerous and murderous tendencies something to address with concurrent force especially where human lives have been wasted.
Secondly, the solution remains legislation mandating all cattle rearers to acquire and equip ranches for their cattle within a specific time. The government, in supporting d development of agriculture should make available low interest loans and training for ownership and operation of ranches.Ajimobi actually proffered the same solution of ranching.

The herdsmen may approach state governments and owners of land and negotiate terms for allocation of a well defined area for their ranches. It may be a long term lease or outright purchase. That way it is a registered business regulated by law and they can pay taxes to d states.

Outside this, no state in the south will cede its lands to d FG for rearing of cattle. It is not d business of the FG. The role of d FG with our crazy central policing is to ensure adequate and effective protection for all citizens, both their lives and properties.

It would be best for this country if Buhari should just resign.

freeze001:


Outside this, no state in the south will cede its lands to d FG for rearing of cattle. It is not d business of the FG. The role of d FG with our crazy central policing is to ensure adequate and effective protection for all citizens, both their lives and properties.

I think you'll find that the statement in bold is not accurate.

There is already a significant amount of land already vested in the Federal government or its agencies within all states, which can be designated for grazing. Additionally, state Governors can be encouraged "presidentially" to donate additional land. The National Grazing bill is workable and will save lives.

The status quo is not good enough particularly, as you know, no state is empowered to forcefully prevent any Nigerian from moving through the state. The herdsmen will continue to move their cattle as needed, pockets of violence will continue to be present, until a bill such as the national grazing bill is passed and implemented. I am yet to see a practical alternative to the said grazing bill.

Would you happen to have a practical alternative solution in mind? If so, I'm all ear.

nduchucks:


I think you'll find that the statement in bold is not accurate.

There is already a significant amount of land already vested in the Federal government or its agencies within all states, which can be designated for grazing. Additionally, state Governors can be encouraged "presidentially" to donate additional land. The National Grazing bill is workable and will save lives.

The status quo is not good enough particularly, as you know, no state is empowered to forcefully prevent any Nigerian from moving through the state. The herdsmen will continue to move their cattle as needed, pockets of violence will continue to be present, until a bill such as the national grazing bill is passed and implemented. I am yet to see a practical alternative to the said grazing bill.

Would you happen to have a practical alternative solution in mind? If so, I'm all ear.

I already gave u a practical alternative. Read again.

freeze001:


I already gave u a practical alternative. Read again.

Here is your solution

Secondly, the solution remains legislation mandating all cattle rearers to acquire and equip ranches for their cattle within a specific time. The government, in supporting d development of agriculture should make available low interest loans and training for ownership and operation of ranches.

Ranching is not undesirable and the output of this technique is transported via roads and rail from the North to the South. I also agree that low interest loans and training for ownership should be provided to encourage ranching. Unfortunately, this does not address the issue at hand i.e. herdsmen/farmer conflicts which have become violent in many cases.

The herdsmen are nomads who are unwilling to give up their way of life. A way of life they've practiced for possibly hundreds of years. It will take a generation to educate the nomads to the point that they become successful ranchers if they are willing to abandon their way of life.

The realities are that, the nomads want to remain nomads, and it is their right to choose how they wish to live their lives. What a responsible government does is to reduce violent conflicts among its citizens due to conflicting interests. This is exactly what the national Grazing bill, if implemented would do.

I'm afraid your Ranching proposal is impractical. You have to be exposed to western education to be able to run a Ranch successfully.

nduchucks:

Here is your solution

Ranching is not undesirable and the output of this technique is transported via roads and rail from the North to the South. I also agree that low interest loans and training for ownership should be provided to encourage ranching. Unfortunately, this does not address the issue at hand i.e. herdsmen/farmer conflicts which have become violent in many cases.

The herdsmen are nomads who are unwilling to give up their way of life. A way of life they've practiced for possibly hundreds of years. It will take a generation to educate the nomads to the point that they become successful ranchers if they are willing to abandon their way of life.

The realities are that, the nomads want to remain nomads, and it is their right to choose how they wish to live their lives. What a responsible government does is to reduce violent conflicts among its citizens due to conflicting interests. This is exactly what the national Grazing bill, if implemented would do.

I'm afraid your Ranching proposal is impractical. You have to be exposed to western education to be able to run a Ranch successfully.

Time was when we were all næked and happy. Today we wear clothes and can't do without them. Mr President for instance is a fulani man. He owns cattle but doesn't herd them. He doesn't roam either except u mean his incessant travelling makes him an executive nomad.
Just like him, most owners of the cattle are not the herders on the street, they are established and educated business men.
Let those educated men establish their ranches.

Their tradition is their business, government is not meant to enhance one tradition over others. Nomadic lifestyle is alien to Southerners so if they cannot adapt to mote modern ways of life, do not expect d South to suddenly imbibe or accommodate them. They can roam in the North and operate ranches in the South.

freeze001:


Time was when we were all næked and happy. Today we wear clothes and can't do without them. Mr President for instance is a fulani man. He owns cattle but doesn't herd them. He doesn't roam either except u mean his incessant travelling makes him an executive nomad.
Just like him, most owners of the cattle are not the herders on the street, they are established and educated business men.
Let those educated men establish their ranches.

Their tradition is their business, government is not meant to enhance one tradition over others. Nomadic lifestyle is alien to Southerners so if they cannot adapt to mote modern ways of life, do not expect d South to suddenly imbibe or accommodate them. They can roam in the North and operate ranches in the South.

You will agree with me that these violent conflicts remain unacceptable and will continue until reasonable people among us find solutions which respect ALL parties involved.

mesoprogress:
Crime is expected to increase due to hardship, job losses etc. Buhari administration said it would soon get better. How soon is your soon? What plans do they have except trial and error? It's unfortunate.

Crime ! These are militants who invaded the core of peaceful Yoruba land because of it's connnecion to the swampy waterways from South South.

Let them know this would not be tolerated. If they want to agitate and pull gragra with the FG cool, but the Yoruba don't play that game.

Funnicator:
Hahaha how are we sure they are not Fulani Herdsmen.

They have infiltrated the SW too.

Modath and Passingshot be like; Sai Buari

Because the individuals who were attacked and held hostage would not diffrentiate a militant from an herdsmen.

They are militants and if they want to graduate from attacking FG facilities to attacking to attacking Yoruba communities we are ready for them and would avenge our people soon

VICTORCIZA:
Is there oil in ogun state?
If yes it could be that those alleged to be Ijaw militants are Yoruba militants fighting for the same rights Ijaw militants are fighting for.


Or
DO YOU RULE OUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT THESE PEOPLE MIGHT BE FULANI HERDSMEN THAT CHANGE TACTIC

Ijaw militants have been attacking facilities in lower eastern Lagos state and Ogun state as it is accessible from the creeks . Many gas terminals in Lagos have been attacked recently and some arrest has been made by NSCDC.

This was a revenge attack, I can see NL is trying it's best to suppress the news so not to awaken Yoruba anger but we would not take this lying down

chynie:
Fake news

If 100 militians are killing, why will they kill 15 ppl

what chynie said is fake, not fake but real...two of my friends are living witness they are over 150 with different types of gun...they collected their phones at okemuti junction and asked them to lie down..they stood on them and asked them to go...they are ijaw people they live inside elepete river which army and naval can not get there except the intervention of the federal government...they have met me in joints severally where they will obtain people and shoot gun...what led to june 16 crisis was a robbery attack by the militants in Ajegunle junction in ita-oluwo Axis...they robbed bravo petrol station not knowing CCV camera was there..after the millitants left, the owner of the petrol station gave the video clips to SARX in ebutte ikorodu...that same day,the special anti robbery squard started making their investigation and found out that two of the militants seen in the video were in one hotel in elepete...immediatelt they pass through the back door and got them drinking beer...immediately the yellow millitant stood up and he got shut on the chest while his second got shot on the hand and they were taken away by the police....same evening the millitants all came out from water to okemuti junction stealing,breaking shops,and spraying everywhere...a friend of mine was killed,we call him Ya Allahu...his daughter was shut on the palm still receiving treatment...one man coming with pilot was even shut to death and lots of money was in the car but not stolen...a soldier was beaten up in cashier hotel,imagine ashawo hotel..but he was on mufty..we have buried some while the two Aboki,s dead were taken to their village...people are vacating the premises now since no intervention of both federal and state.....imagine ijaw people crying at the burial of the ya allahu yesterday saying ya-allahu,no be you this suppose happen to...the millitants dont have the connection to brake pipelines anymore so they decided to come out of water for robbery purposes...15 peoples were seen death as at yesterday morning...this is real,they are millitants,,,they are pipeline brakers..but why did the police shut 2 ijaws and did not provide security for the community...they knew those boys will come out of water but they never prepared securities for the community. imagine the millitants telling you they want to borrow your wife for two weeks and after the two weeks,they will return her back...so sad..no shops opened,from 6pm all houses shut...Governor ambode should come for rescue immediately....

chynie:
Fake news

If 100 militians are killing, why will they kill 15 ppl

what chynie said is fake, not fake but real...two of my friends are living witness they are over 150 with different types of gun...they collected their phones at okemuti junction and asked them to lie down..they stood on them and asked them to go...they are ijaw people they live inside elepete river which army and naval can not get there except the intervention of the federal government...they have met me in joints severally where they will obtain people and shoot gun...what led to june 16 crisis was a robbery attack by the militants in Ajegunle junction in ita-oluwo Axis...they robbed bravo petrol station not knowing CCV camera was there..after the millitants left, the owner of the petrol station gave the video clips to SARX in ebutte ikorodu...that same day,the special anti robbery squard started making their investigation and found out that two of the militants seen in the video were in one hotel in elepete...immediatelt they pass through the back door and got them drinking beer...immediately the yellow millitant stood up and he got shut on the chest while his second got shot on the hand and they were taken away by the police....same evening the militants all came out from water to okemuti junction stealing,breaking shops,and spraying everywhere...a friend of mine was killed,we call him Ya Allahu...his daughter was shut on the palm still receiving treatment...one man coming with pilot was even shut to death and lots of money was in the car but not stolen...a soldier was beaten up in cashier hotel,imagine ashawo hotel..but he was not on uniform....we have buried some while the two Aboki,s dead were taken to their village...people are vacating the premises now since no intervention of both federal and state.....imagine ijaw people crying at the burial of the ya Allahu yesterday saying ya-allahu,no be you this suppose happen to...the militants dont have the connection to brake pipelines anymore so they decided to come out of water for robbery purposes...15 peoples were seen death as at yesterday morning...this is real,they are militants,,,they are pipeline breakers..but why did the police shut 2 ijaws and did not provide security for the community...they knew those boys will come out of water but they never prepared securities for the community. imagine the militants telling you they want to borrow your wife for two weeks and after the two weeks,they will return her back...so sad..no shops opened,from 6.pm all houses shut...Governor Ambode should come for rescue immediately....

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Ijaw militants have been attacking facilities in lower eastern Lagos state and Ogun state as it is accessible from the creeks . Many gas terminals in Lagos have been attacked recently and some arrest has been made by NSCDC.

This was a revenge attack, I can see NL is trying it's best to suppress the news so not to awaken Yoruba anger but we would not take this lying down

nduchucks:


I think you'll find that the statement in bold is not accurate.

There is already a significant amount of land already vested in the Federal government or its agencies within all states, which can be designated for grazing. Additionally, state Governors can be encouraged "presidentially" to donate additional land. The National Grazing bill is workable and will save lives.

The status quo is not good enough particularly, as you know, no state is empowered to forcefully prevent any Nigerian from moving through the state. The herdsmen will continue to move their cattle as needed, pockets of violence will continue to be present, until a bill such as the national grazing bill is passed and implemented. I am yet to see a practical alternative to the said grazing bill.

Would you happen to have a practical alternative solution in mind? If so, I'm all ear.

to keep nigwria one is an Orion, not a given. And it is dangerous