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Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by Justcash(m): 4:17am On Jun 24, 2016 |
arresa: Last time I checked, those businesses were shut because of a debt, not for political affiliation or corruption charges. That was what I was told by the news and AMCON. All your talk about stealing and political appointments are not related to my argument. If AMCON is to shut down a business for being in debt, they must consider the impact on factors like employment, wages and social dynamics. Two wrongs don't make a right. Unless proven otherwise, I maintain that AMCON should have found a way to get the money back without condemning the masses to further suffering. |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by Nobody: 4:19am On Jun 24, 2016 |
With a name like just ash, it should be clear that the ops understanding of business is limited to over the counter transactions. Silver bird is bankrupt. They are unable to meet their financial obligations. Amcon has taken them over, and will hopefully restructure them to make them more profitable. End of. 1 Like |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by Nobody: 4:19am On Jun 24, 2016 |
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Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by Justcash(m): 4:24am On Jun 24, 2016 |
arresa: If indeed he made a deal with the past government, and a new government emerged and truncated it, it vindicates my view that this government is making Nigeria an unreliable investment destination. However, I don't know of such a deal. I only know that the businesses were shut down because of an amount owed. I am saying that shutting the businesses down is not a wise action. They should have recovered the money while keeping the business alive. I reiterate that there is no Law and Order in Nigeria's economic system. Investment accounts are frozen and seized without warrants and with reckless abandon. Is that lawful? Where is the "Order" with CBN twisting and turning fiscal regimes like a chameleon and turning a blind eye to the after effects? |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by Justcash(m): 4:27am On Jun 24, 2016 |
oyb: Silverbird is not bankrupt mister. They have not filed for one. AMCON simply shut it down because of a debt. Try not to add twists to the story. 1 Like |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by Justcash(m): 4:42am On Jun 24, 2016 |
kayfra: What AMCON has done is to shut the businesses down, and the spiralling effect will be evident soon. They will most probably liquidate them and store the money in their accounts if BMB decides to fight on. That, my friend, is a wrong approach. 1 Like |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by Nobody: 4:44am On Jun 24, 2016 |
Justcash: This is why you are a finicial illiterate. Do you know what bankruptcy means? it means you cannot meet your finicial obligations or pay your debts. Silverbird has been unable to service its debt. it cannot meet its finicial obligations. I hope you have actually learnt something. Chapter 11 is not part of Nigeria's business laws. There is no 'filing for bankruptcy' in Nigeria. Amcon has not shut them down. Amcon has taken them over. Amcon will manage the company until the debt is recovered. The board and key elements of the management team will be replaced by a team picked by Amcon, and they will oversee the company. If silver bird cannot turn a profit, then Amcon may have to engage drastic measures (auction) Keep thinking you can default on loans and nothing will happen. It happened to zenon in 2008,2009. Zenith bank took over their new head office. They also took over zenon house. Amcon took over lister oil some years back for the same reason. It is business. Grow up and understand this, or maybe stick to a 4 x4 container 1 Like |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by kishimi8(m): 4:47am On Jun 24, 2016 |
Olumaeme:AMCON actually takes over management by placing a receive manager in charge of a taken over business. Besides soo many companies have been taken over by AMCON a bigger company than silver bird like suburban telecommunications was also taken over in 2013 over 27billion naira debt but it was not politicised like the way you guys are politicising oga Bruce own even jimoh Ibrahim nicon conglomerate was also taken over recently or is nicon not bigger than silver bird? Let's be apolitical sometimes. |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by kayfra: 4:48am On Jun 24, 2016 |
Justcash: And will you apologize when the businesses are reopened or sold in a few days time? |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by arresa: 4:57am On Jun 24, 2016 |
Justcash: Any reason GEJ who made him director if NTA for 8 years did looked the other way while he refused to pay back the money he borrowed from Nigerians? In fact, it makes no difference, his a dead beat and petty crook. All we want is our N11 billion. And please stop fooling yourself. The only thing promoting your lame argument is politics and tribalism and not what's best for Nigerians.. 1 Like |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by bakila: 5:00am On Jun 24, 2016 |
Olumaeme:That was what happened Govt took over the debt and the assets of Silverbird, waited for them to start servicing the loan. Silverbird neglected to service the loan, and in order to get its 11 billion AMCON acted to save the jobs of Union Bank staff. You can see the the Ben Murrey Bruces are not angry and admitted their error in words and action. Why are you taking QUININE for money someone enjoyed. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by adconline(m): 6:05am On Jun 24, 2016 |
arresa:Fix your English first before pointing fingers! What a product of Naija jaundiced education. 1 Like |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by ashjay001(m): 6:13am On Jun 24, 2016 |
Justcash: Amcon shouldn't be stupid enough to keep it on total lock down! Let's give them time, they might need to carry out an audit. |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by banki(m): 6:15am On Jun 24, 2016 |
Olumaeme:Clap for for yourself So union bank that he borrowed 11billion from would not collapse how many jobs would be lost if union bank collapsed do you know what will happen to.the economy 1 Like |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by Pavarottii(m): 6:30am On Jun 24, 2016 |
God bless you. U av spoken my mind. Been telling my colleagues that more businesses are likely to crash as we proceed... because of the policies of this government. 1 Like |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by paschu: 8:18am On Jun 24, 2016 |
Don't worry. The war against capital which you cheer on will soon reach your own bedroom, one way or the other. Likewise the "heroic" illegal and forceful wealth redistribution which you blindly endorse and are currently so excited about. By the time the chips are down we'd know who's really disgusting, corrupt, incompetent, and meaningless. arresa: |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by paschu: 8:38am On Jun 24, 2016 |
How callous. Imagine how you respond to someone's sweat and blood. Do you realize that Silverbird brand has been in existence for decades whereas the said loan was only taken in 2011? Do you even know the terms of that loan? No. Do you have details as to WHY the company defaulted? No. Have you heard about the the concept of "hostile takeover"?, Heck I guess NO again. Do you know if what we're seeing now is a "hostile takeover"? I guess you don't care. Have you (or anyone in your family) ever STARTED (not managed) a sucessful business in your life? Heck NO. So it's now clear why you would shamelessly and publicly wish that a person's investment of over 30 years should be taken over forcefully and sold quickly. The fact that the bruce family is taking this with stride does not mean that they were guilty of anything (as folks like you want to suggest). If anything their stride just shows that they have a great sense of RESPONSIBILITY (not blame shifting) which this govt. desperately needs. kayfra: 1 Like |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by RZArecta(m): 9:24am On Jun 24, 2016 |
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Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by kayfra: 11:52am On Jun 24, 2016 |
paschu: Do you know how many families are in tears due to the non performing loans? Have you ever lent someone 11 billion before with 0 repayments? Maybe they are not deserving of the business. This is not what hostile takeover means. Go and study before attempting to sound half smart. "A hostile takeover is the acquisition of one company (called the target company) by another (called the acquirer) that is accomplished by going directly to the company's shareholders or fighting to replace management to get the acquisition approved.' 1 Like |
Re: Why Nigeria's Economy Is Failing: Case Of Amcon And Silverbird by paschu: 1:00pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
Good that you had enough sense to google it. But it takes more than a grain of phraisal definition you picked on Investopedia (a foreign company) to explain what's now happening in Nigeria. Understanding the CONCEPT (not the phrase) of hostile takeover is more than 5 seconds of googling. It takes a bit of critical thinking and painstaking research, if you're not an investment banker. Now regarding what AMCON is doing I advise you to read the following feature on a 2011 edition of Vanguard (and understand the possibities it seeks to portray) before you start your noise. By the way, here's an exerpt: ... And, errrm, to be clear, I did not actually say that what's going on now IS a "hostile takeover". I merely gave a rhetoric on that one. Meaning that it may or may not be a hostile takeover. In other words, I'm saying that you should care to be sure of what's going on before you support the silly call (by a bunch of non-staters) to crucify the Murays. kayfra: |
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