5 years of South Sudan

After over 20 years of guerrilla warfare which claimed 2 million lives...

On July 9 2011, South Sudan officially gains independence from Sudan - ruled by the Islamic elite

A new country and a new national anthem, but peace is short-lived...

On July 2013, President Salva Kiir sacks entire cabinet in power struggle

On December 2013, political infighting erupts into civil war

Thousands are killed, 2.2 million people displaced

On August 2015, warring sides sign a peace deal but the deal is fragile...

And so is its economy... Inflation is close to 300%, the highest in the world

Oil made up 98% of government revenues, the industry has collapsed

"The majority of working South Sudanese are now poorer than they were a decade ago" - Oxfam

And heavy clashes have erupted across several major cities

"South Sudan is at risk of falling back into full-scale war" - The International Crisis Group

attackgat:
At least they are free. South Sudan is an example to the "one Nigeria or we all die!" Crazies out there that no union is permanent

chaloner:
By 2020 it will be 4years of united of biafra independence.

LRNZH:


I don't think you understand the history of South Sudan. If there is one country that should deserve independence, it is South Sudan. More than Erithrea, Somaliland, Namibia, Northern Mali, Biafra or Western Sahara.

They had nothing in common with the over 70% Arab population in present day Sudan, hnece were heavily marginalized. They got independence 5 years ago after 20 years only to be held hostage by power struggle between 2 men. Just 2 Men. President and former VP.

This is my fear for a lot of other African breakaway regions that want independence. In a big country like Nigeria, 2 people cannot hold the entire population to their whims. But if we splinter, then this becomes a reality in Biafra, Oodua Republic, Arewa federation etc.

We should think deep about waht we wish for ourselves.

Victorvexz:

Keep dreaming

chaloner:
u didnt make sense. Even abacha hold Nigeria hostage only remove by divine power. Cal me back any time u get wat to say. Imagine..

LRNZH:


The "apple" wey Abacha chop na God come down from heaven give am? There are too many diverse interests in Nigeria to try an "Abacha", "Babangida" or "Third-Term" and you will not be forced-out in due time.

Or are you saying God doesn't like the other smaller African countries like Equatorial Guinea, Cameroun, Angola, Uganda, Zimbabwe, Chad, etc that their leaders are still holding them hostage for over 20 years?

Stop shallow-minded thinking my friend.

Lalasticlala, come spread small sense abeg

LRNZH:

The "apple" wey Abacha chop na God come down from heaven give am? There are too many diverse interests in Nigeria to try an "Abacha", "Babangida" or "Third-Term" and you will not be forced-out in due time.
Or are you saying God doesn't like the other smaller African countries like Equatorial Guinea, Cameroun, Angola, Uganda, Zimbabwe, Chad, etc that their leaders are still holding them hostage for over 20 years?
Stop shallow-minded thinking my friend.
Lalasticlala, come spread small sense abeg

chaloner:
now i knw u re stil a child. Apple? U among d folks d bliv in tales? Cnt discus wit u Na

LRNZH:


I don't think you understand the history of South Sudan. If there is one country that should deserve independence, it is South Sudan. More than Erithrea, Somaliland, Namibia, Northern Mali, Biafra or Western Sahara.

The South Sudanese had nothing in common with the over 70% Arab population in present day Sudan, hence were heavily marginalized. They got independence 5 years ago, after 20 years of warfare only to be held hostage by power struggle between 2 men. Just 2 Men. President and former VP.

This is my fear for a lot of other African breakaway regions that want independence. In a big country like Nigeria, 2 people cannot hold the entire population to their whims. But if we splinter, then this becomes a reality in Biafra, Oodua Republic, Arewa federation etc.

We should think deep about what we wish for ourselves.

attackgat:


I get where you are coming from. Igbos have no historical connection whatsoever with Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba people but you hear a Yoruba and Hausa man talking about 'one Nigeria' as if that term means anything. When the Igbos declared their independence under the great Ojukwu, those two groups came down to the East to start a war and kill 3 million people because Lord Lugard told them we are one. At the end of the day, freedom and independence is a right, not a privilege. That's why those who agitate for Biafra will always morally better than those who want 'one Nigeria'.

LRNZH:


[b]First, I appreciate your mature response. Thank you.

However, I disagree with you on the difference between Hausa, igbos and Yorubas. There are very few homogenous African countries in terms of tribe and culture (due to colonialism of course). We are not peculiar. The Igbo people are not suffering any peculiar discrimination that other tribes in Nigeria are not facing. If they were they would have clamoured for secession under GEJ. It smacks of hypocrisy that once GEJ lost the 2015 elections, all of a sudden the secession cockroaches came out of the woodwork.

Secondly secession has not conferred any advantage to a single African country. The history is clear for all to see.
None of Eritrea, South Sudan, Namibia are doing better than Ethiopia, Sudan or South Africa where they broke away from. Meanwhile we are enjoying a lot of advantages that we would lose if we splinter. For a big country like Nigeria, we get some advantage from our size. Big economy, big market, stronger military, we can easily be self sufficient in different type of agricultural products, diverse geography, the list is endless.

If the various parts of Nigeria secede today all those advantages will be lost for no other advantage. We have to use our reasoning and remove emotional reactions.

Do you (secessionists) realise that presidential power will still return to the South in the future? And when it does you have set another precedent for the rest of the country to raise up all sorts of storm make the country ungovernable? This game your likes are playing is very short-termist, not thinking about the implications of your actions when power returns to your axis.
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LRNZH:


[b]First, I appreciate your mature response. Thank you.

However, I disagree with you on the difference between Hausa, igbos and Yorubas. There are very few homogenous African countries in terms of tribe and culture (due to colonialism of course). We are not peculiar. The Igbo people are not suffering any peculiar discrimination that other tribes in Nigeria are not facing. If they were they would have clamoured for secession under GEJ. It smacks of hypocrisy that once GEJ lost the 2015 elections, all of a sudden the secession cockroaches came out of the woodwork.

Secondly secession has not conferred any advantage to a single African country. The history is clear for all to see.
None of Eritrea, South Sudan, Namibia are doing better than Ethiopia, Sudan or South Africa where they broke away from. Meanwhile we are enjoying a lot of advantages that we would lose if we splinter. For a big country like Nigeria, we get some advantage from our size. Big economy, big market, stronger military, we can easily be self sufficient in different type of agricultural products, diverse geography, the list is endless.

If the various parts of Nigeria secede today all those advantages will be lost for no other advantage. We have to use our reasoning and remove emotional reactions.

Do you (secessionists) realise that presidential power will still return to the South in the future? And when it does you have set another precedent for the rest of the country to raise up all sorts of storm make the country ungovernable? This game your likes are playing is very short-termist, not thinking about the implications of your actions when power returns to your axis.

Had Biafra succeeded in 1967, it is very likely that Ojukwu (by his nature) would have been president until his death a few years ago. Biafra would easily have been like all those smaller African countries where they have a serving president for life.
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Lalasticlala, you dey so?

attackgat:


You completely missed the point. There has been a clamour for secession all along. MASSOB was there long before GEJ ever came to power. It does not matter if any of the ethnic nationalities in Nigeria such as Igbos want to secede because Buhari came to power or because it didn't rain in Madagascar yesterday, their right to leave superceeds anything else. Even if your wife or girlfriend decides to end the relationship because she doesn't like colour of your socks, you have no choice in the matter. If Igbios want to go, they have the right to go. When and why is not as important as their right to go. Nigeria is a creation of the White man, none of the indigenous ethnic nationalities ever formaly agreed to be part of it. You talked about advantage of Nigeria being a big nation. Nobody is interested in size when it counts for nothing. Nigeria is a country of 170 million people but has close a 70% porverty rate. Belgium is just about 10 million people but is richer than Nigeria. It is far better to be smaller and more effective than bigger but useless. The secessionist are not interested in the presidency of Nigeria. The presidency has not helped those that have held it before. Ask Yorubas what they gained from OBJ or as Ijaws what they gained from GEJ, nothing. Bottomline is that Nigeria has never worked as a nation and never will and no amount of grandstanding is going to change that. The sooner everone admits it, the better. Oil, water and milk do not mix and if anyone firces a mixture of all three, something nasty will be the end result

LRNZH:



The United Nations under its Declaration of Rights of Indigenous People provided citizens of member states with the right to self-determination. This right empowers every citizen to agitate for the separation of his or her region from a recognized or sovereign nation that it belongs to. However, that right is not absolute as it comes with some conditions. One of those conditions is that any region that wants to enforce the provisions of the declaration must be able to prove that it is a victim of continuous persecution and established discrimination by the present state.

Tell me which discrimination the Igbos have peculiarly undergone that is enough to warrant this right of secession. I am waiting.....