Appleyard:
Now this was what I have long said and feared. The passive attitude of the US government towards police brutality is what has given rise to the recent "eye for an eye" war like behaviour. However, I still believe it won't get to that level of a wide range racial war, because most whites are aware of the situation, and a good number of them have also fallen victim to psychopathic law enforcement agents at various levels. Therefore, the main crux would be the people against the state. But the real danger is the press. Instead of propagating the root cause of this whole brouhaha, I will not be surprised if they come out twisting facts and paint the whole picture to make it look like it is a war strictly between Blacks and Whites.
That's one thing they know how to do.

Appleyard:
Now this was what I have long said and feared. The passive attitude of the US government towards police brutality is what has given rise to the recent "eye for an eye" war like behaviour. However, I still believe it won't get to that level of a wide range racial war, because most whites are aware of the situation, and a good number of them have also fallen victim to psychopathic law enforcement agents at various levels. Therefore, the main crux would be the people against the state. But the real danger is the press. Instead of propagating the root cause of this whole brouhaha, I will not be surprised if they come out twisting facts and paint the whole picture to make it look like it is a war strictly between Blacks and Whites.
That's one thing they know how to do.

Lucasbalo:
Appleyard, you are absolutely on point. This is what people like us are crying out about and some people are castigating us for. Anyone with a functioning medulla will know that militants will take advantage of all the police brutality to enhance their personal agenda. When a 12 year old boy was shot by police for playing with a toy gun within 4 seconds of his arrival at the park where the little boy was playing with his cousins. When Micheal Mcdonald was shot 16 times in Chicago while walking away from police and they try to cover it up but the police car camera revealed the truth. When Eric Gardener was screaming i can't breath after being tackled by 7 white officers. There are so many cases like that all over the country. It's a systematic problem in America and needs to be wiped out. Who knows whose turn is next God forbids. It's a tragedy for police officers to be killed and it's a tragedy for innocent civilians to be killed too. Police is not a jury, judge and executioner. This is a big stain on America and hopefully things will get better.

Appleyard:


Once again, you are correct. Criminal gangs like you rightly said, are now taking advantage of the situation. But like we have said many a time, there is no winner in this whole mess, because it is the innocent-whether on the Police or civilian side-that get killed at the end of the day. Its always a lose-lose all the time.

On the other hand, it is only those who are wired to die with their eyes wide open, that will continue to denounce such a glaring threat and stain on America, until they will come face to face with this monster someday; only that there might be no time to regret.

Appleyard:


Once again, you are correct. Criminal gangs like you rightly said, are now taking advantage of the situation. But like we have said many a time, there is no winner in this whole mess, because it is the innocent-whether on the Police or civilian side-that get killed at the end of the day. Its always a lose-lose all the time.

On the other hand, it is only those who are wired to die with their eyes wide open, that will continue to denounce such a glaring threat and stain on America, until they will come face to face with this monster someday; only that there might be no time to regret.

Lucasbalo:
You nailed it. Why would anyone with an ounce of brain deny all the racial profiling of Black men. A Republican Conservative Senator and a clean cut very articulate guy Tim Scott admitted that he was stopped by police officers in DC 7 times in one year for no apparent reasons and some non entity on nairaland is telling me that I am jumping to conclusion about police harassment of blacks. It beats imagination which kind of upbringing will make someone that self hating.

Appleyard:


My brother, believe me when I say there are people who are so delusional to the extent that they can even deny their own reflection from a standing mirror. Anyone who denies that racial profiling has not been part of US criminal justice system, is a complete deluded fellow, one beyond redemption. When I was in the school studying law, I came across a lot of American textbooks on criminology, and almost all of the criminologists made mention of this glaring fact. And guess what: majority of the criminologists are of white origin.

It is futile trying to nail a pin into a brick wall. We can only pray that the chicken don't come home to roost across their destiny one of these days, for they just might not have the chance to reminisce on this fact again.

Meanwhile, the officer who was accused for the death of Freddy Grey, have just been cleared of ANY wrong doing. It means that Freddy Grey inflicted the multiple wounds and brutality upon himself.

Heaven is watching.

Appleyard:


My brother, believe me when I say there are people who are so delusional to the extent that they can even deny their own reflection from a standing mirror. Anyone who denies that racial profiling has not been part of US criminal justice system, is a complete deluded fellow, one beyond redemption. When I was in the school studying law, I came across a lot of American textbooks on criminology, and almost all of the criminologists made mention of this glaring fact. And guess what: majority of the criminologists are of white origin.

It is futile trying to nail a pin into a brick wall. We can only pray that the chicken don't come home to roost across their destiny one of these days, for they just might not have the chance to reminisce on this fact again.

Meanwhile, the officer who was accused for the death of Freddy Grey, have just been cleared of ANY wrong doing. It means that Freddy Grey inflicted the multiple wounds and brutality upon himself.

Heaven is watching.

Appleyard:


My brother, believe me when I say there are people who are so delusional to the extent that they can even deny their own reflection from a standing mirror. Anyone who denies that racial profiling has not been part of US criminal justice system, is a complete deluded fellow, one beyond redemption. When I was in the school studying law, I came across a lot of American textbooks on criminology, and almost all of the criminologists made mention of this glaring fact. And guess what: majority of the criminologists are of white origin.

It is futile trying to nail a pin into a brick wall. We can only pray that the chicken don't come home to roost across their destiny one of these days, for they just might not have the chance to reminisce on this fact again.

Meanwhile, the officer who was accused for the death of Freddy Grey, have just been cleared of ANY wrong doing. It means that Freddy Grey inflicted the multiple wounds and brutality upon himself.

Heaven is watching.

vedaxcool:
I hope the black folks be smart enough to avoid this needless gun battles... they will get massacred and years down the line some fool who wasn't born when it all happened will say sorry will purge the US of mostly black folks. There is something just weird about this whole killing black business that even extremist like the black panthers should be bothered, in most of the case the police needlessly used extreme force when they had little need for it, clearly there is an unseen hand planning something very drastic that should make all take calm calculated decisions not hot headed action or seeking gun battles.

Appleyard:


There we go. Just be ready to defend the bolded because, some deluded minds that seem to come from another planet, will soon come here and tag you a "conspiracy theorist", because to them, nothing is ever real. Even for the likes of blind Steven Wonders, its not that hard to see that the way some of the shootings were carried out, were intended to provoke a response. If not, how do you explain shooting somebody 12 times while he was walking away posing no threat at all? Like you said, the black brothers must be extremely careful: they might just be foolishly walking into a dangerous trap.

vedaxcool:
I hope the black folks be smart enough to avoid this needless gun battles... they will get massacred and years down the line some fool who wasn't born when it all happened will say sorry will purge the US of mostly black folks. There is something just weird about this whole killing black business that even extremist like the black panthers should be bothered, in most of the case the police needlessly used extreme force when they had little need for it, clearly there is an unseen hand planning something very drastic that should make all take calm calculated decisions not hot headed action or seeking gun battles.

Missy89:


Can you name those text books? I would love to read them. Thank you.

Appleyard:
Have you heard of NOUN? visits their e-library, you would have a field day..... Thank you.

Lucasbalo:
During slavery time there were two types of Negroes. The Field Negroes and the House Negroes. The House Negroes eats crumps that falls off the tables of their masters and because of that they are always snitching on the Field Negroes. The same still apply today. Self hating is an incurable disease. The difference now is that the House Negroes now are not getting good crimps from the masters. Every Race and Tribe have their Judases. The successful Blacks that are Billionaires and Millionaires were from inner cities and they align with the Progressives. Racism is well and alive in US and only irrational thinking people will deny that. I have Republican friends in my office that acknowledged that pure bigotry is the cause of all this police harassment. Google Bigots in Law Enforcement and find out how White Nationalists are jumping into law enforcement just to harass minorities.

Missy89:


You said you read some books that specifically told you that there is institutional racism written by American criminologists.

I just want the names of those books so i can read them so give me the names

Thank you

Appleyard:


And I Gave you a name to play with, as I don't have time for frivolities. But for the love I have for thee, I will leave you with some of this names, which are only a tip of the iceberg, my love.

https://lib.law.washington.edu/content/guides/racecrim


Please darling, don't forget to leave a kiss behind when you are through with them, and make sure you crosscheck NOUN for further exposition. I still love you, you know.

Missy89:


Lol. Trying to mask your ignorance with sweet words eh?

Book 1

Mario L. Barnes & Robert S. Chang, Analyzing Stops, Citations, and Searches in Washington and Beyond, 35 Seattle U. L. Rev. 673 (2012)

Racial disproportionality in the criminal justice system is a fact. [b]But the fact of racial disproportionality is the beginning and not the end of the conversation. The fact that blacks are overrepresented in stop, arrest, charge, pretrial detention, conviction, and incarceration statistics demonstrates only correlation and not causation.A number of commentators caution that disproportionality and the overrepresentation of blacks, Native-Americans, and Hispanics in Washington State’s prisons do not prove racial discrimination.

Further, the fact of disproportionality at each stage of criminal justice processing does not prove that racial discrimination occurs at each particular stage. For example, the observed disproportionality at imprisonment might merely be a downstream artifact of disproportionality at conviction, which might in turn be a downstream artifact of pretrial detention, charge, arrest, or stop. Closer analysis of each stage is required in order to determine whether observed disproportionality is a product of legally relevant factors as opposed to suggesting more strongly that race plays an illegitimate role. This Article seeks to examine more closely the disproportionality with regard to traffic stops, citations, and searches. We focus on three reports produced by a team of researchers from Washington State University (WSU) that examine Washington State Patrol traffic stops, citations, and searches.

Book 2


Tal Klement & Elizabeth Siggins, A Window of Opportunity: Addressing the Complexities of the Relationship between Drug Enforcement and Racial Disparity in Seattle, 1 Seattle J. Soc. just. 165 (2002).

Our analysis suggests that there is a relationship between police drug enforcement and racial disparity that is complex and indirect, but not impossible to address. This relationship does not mean that the police are intentionally targeting persons of color. Instead, drug enforcement practices focus on visible street-level markets, which tend disproportionately to involve persons of color, but which are not necessarily reflective of all drug markets in Seattle. There are a number of factors that contribute to this complex relationship:
The Seattle Police Department’s mandate with respect to drug enforcement is unclear. . . .
The response-driven nature of drug enforcement does not necessarily fit the complex realities of drug markets. . . .
Seattle Police Department enforcement efforts target a limited conception of the harm of drug use and markets. . . .
The current focus on “sellers” versus “buyers” is problematic.
There is an important window of opportunity to address these issues. -- pp. 169-70

Book 3


Clayton Mosher et al., The Importance of Context in Understanding Biased Policing: State Patrol Traffic Citations in Washington State, 9 Police Practice and Research 43 (2008).

Abstract: Several studies have provided evidence that racial profiling on the part of law enforcement agencies in the USA is a widespread problem. In contrast to most extant analyses of biased policing, our multivariate analyses of approximately 1.6 million traffic stops by the Washington State Patrol disaggregate the data from the state level to smaller jurisdictions and examine differences in rates of citation for several minority groups. The analyses reveal that, when racial/ethnic differences in the commission of traffic violations are taken into account, the initial effects of race/ethnicity on the probability of receiving a citation are greatly attenuated.

Book 4

J. Mitchell Pickerill, Clayton Mosher & Travis C. Pratt, Search and Seizure, Racial Profiling, and Traffic Stops: A Disparate Impact Framework, 31 Law & Policy 1 (2009).

Abstract: In response to nationwide attention to the issue of racial profiling, numerous law enforcement agencies have reexamined their policies and collected data on the racial demographics of motorists stopped and searched by police. This article advocates a disparate impact framework for understanding the relationship between race and searches and seizures. Using data on the Washington State Patrol, analysis indicates that disparities in the proportions of racial minorities searched by the Patrol are likely not the result of intentional or purposeful discrimination. Additionally, factors such as age, sex, time of day, and the number of violations that motivated the stop affect the likelihood of a search [quote] It admitted that the issue of racial profiling is nationwide, and even at the bolded, the analysis of Washington are held to be "likely", not absolutely without "racial profiling."

[quote]Book 5

Robert D. Crutchfield, Racial and Ethnic Disparities in the Prosecution of Felony Cases in King County : Final Report (Olympia, Wash.: Washington State Minority and Justice Commission, Office of the Administrator for the Courts,[1995])

Abstract (from National Criminal Justice Reference Service): The study attempted to determine whether and under what circumstances the race and ethnicity of adult persons accused of felony crimes in King County influenced, either directly or indirectly, prosecutorial decisionmaking and the processing of felony criminal cases by the prosecuting attorney. Procedures and standards which the King County Prosecuting Attorney's Office adopted, which are reevaluated and changed regularly, appeared to produce cases handled in a systematic way based on legally relevant factors. Even so, there were some observable differences by race of offenders in case processing outcomes. The study could not draw definite conclusions as to the sources of those differences. Racial and ethnic differences in criminal justice are not necessarily the result of individuals making biased decisions, but may appear because of the adoption of laws and policies that differentially affect segments of the population. Notes, bibliography, tables, appendix

Book 6

Robert D. Crutchfield et al., Racial / Ethnic Disparities and Exceptional Sentences in Washington State : [Final Report] (Olympia, Wash.: Washington State Minority and Justice Commission, Office of the Administrator for the Courts,[1993]

we conclude that exceptional sentences, both above and below the standard range, are used infrequently and that the relationship between race/ethnicity and the imposition of these sentences is very complex. Therefore, even though it appears that race has a modest effect on sentencing outside the standard range, simplistic notions about race and exceptional sentencing should be avoided. -- p. 3

Book 7

Rodney L. Engen et al., The Impact of Race and Ethnicity on Charging and Sentencing Processes for Drug Offenders in Three Counties of Washington State: Final Report (1999).

While we found some small differences in charging decisions,...

Appleyard:


Small girl.. Always dancing across an avalanche of admissibility, yet unable to comprehend the truth, as a result of self inflicted mendacious posture. You even failed to note the difference between disproportionality and disparity. But don't you worry, love. I ain't giving up on you yet.

Look below and find out for yourself the underlining summation of these various authors, they all could not deny one thing; and that's Racial Bias . the criminal justice system, even though they couldn't agree in totality. And that was the reason I referenced them at the first place: They simply argued to The Contrary and for The contrary, despite limiting their views to just one single state. So, take a seat girl, and learn from thy husband. . Nest time, learn to read in between the lines of a given text.




They agreed that racial discrimination occurs at some stages, but not on each or all of the stages, even in Washington.



They agreed there is racial disparity in police duties to crimes, despite being of the opinion that the police may not be intentionally targeting minorities, and also conceded that to verify this claim is very COMPLEX at the bolded. And even suggested addressing this issues. They never ruled out racism.

Again, they conceded that other studies attested to racial profiling, even though that of Washington seeks otherwise, neither did it outrightly denounced it.

Appleyard:


Small girl.. Always dancing across an avalanche of admissibility, yet unable to comprehend the truth, as a result of self inflicted mendacious posture. You even failed to note the difference between disproportionality and disparity. But don't you worry, love. I ain't giving up on you yet.

Look below and find out for yourself the underlining summation of these various authors, they all could not deny one thing; and that's Racial Bias . the criminal justice system, even though they couldn't agree in totality. And that was the reason I referenced them at the first place: They simply argued to The Contrary and for The contrary, despite limiting their views to just one single state. So, take a seat girl, and learn from thy husband. . Nest time, learn to read in between the lines of a given text.




They agreed that racial discrimination occurs at some stages, but not on each or all of the stages, even in Washington.



They agreed there is racial disparity in police duties to crimes, despite being of the opinion that the police may not be intentionally targeting minorities, and also conceded that to verify this claim is very COMPLEX at the bolded. And even suggested addressing this issues. They never ruled out racism.

Again, they conceded that other studies attested to racial profiling, even though that of Washington seeks otherwise, neither did it outrightly denounced it.

Lucasbalo:
You are absolutely right again. Only a brainstem will argue about not seeing racial profilling in America. I remember a case of the richest black woman in US by name Oprah Winfrey walks in a high end store on Magnificent Mile in Chicago and a lowly store employee closed the door on spotting her. It became a big scandal here in Chicago and all over the country and the store had to apologize for that. That's a billionaire not some lowly paid self hating white rear kissing foam in the mouth house negro.

Missy89:


Village id1ot i see you are still having trouble comprehending simple things. No one will deny that racism exists. That is a fact

But if you say an institution is racist, you have to point out to the policies of that institution that is inherently racist to a certain group.

How does Oprah's experience in a store directly means that any institution is racist?

Lucasbalo:
I thought I was directing my comments to Appleyard. Why don't you stay off my mentions. If I am a village idiot, what are you ?. Please, don't let us go there. I will ignore the village idiot part and if you continue, I will unleash on you.

Missy89:


Lmfao

Keep contradicting youself. Surprised you dont know how silly you sound right now


Where did you get your law degree again?

Saying the US criminal system is racist may be
politically controversial in some circles. But the
facts are overwhelming. No real debate about
that. Below I set out numerous examples of
these facts.