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Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by erico2k2(m): 8:39pm On Jul 22, 2016
dotna:


I agree because even if you get all the conversion 100 percent correct, I can't recommend that anyone will be safe in that vehicle. The manufacturer safety will be heavily compromised and the electrical will be a ticking danger for the occupant
I do not think you have been in an high end conversion B4, if you have the issue of safty is not an option, its all about if it would work or not,there is little or no compromise i n safety,as the worse that can happen is ur tie rod disengaging, but then that can happen to a LHD vehicle

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Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by erico2k2(m): 9:50pm On Jul 22, 2016
Siena:
Parts required to convert a RHD Range Rover Sport, to LHD:

LHD dash / fascia, upper.
LHD dash / fascia, lower.
LHD instrument cluster.
LHD dash wiring harness (main).
LHD centre console.
LHD HVAC unit (behind dash / fascia).
LHD HVAC refrigerant pipes.
LHD dash / fascia support frame.
LHD HVAC heater core, and pipes.
LHD steering rack.
LHD steering rack high pressure line*.
LHD steering rack return line*.
LHD adjustable steering column.
LHD passenger airbag assembly.
LHD pedal box assembly.
LHD brake booster.
LHD brake hard lines (from master cylinder, to ABS hydraulic modulator).
LHD wiper motor and mechanism.
LHD wiper arms.
LHD bonnet release cable and handle.
LHD gearshift assembly.
LHD carpet.
LHD front door cards, with master switch panel**.
LHD power front seats.
LHD external rear view mirrors.
LHD headlamps.
LHD front door handles.

*Hydraulic power assisted steering models only.
**Depending on model.

It is worth noting, the Range Rover Sport, uses CAN communication for the instrument cluster. Incorrect coding, can result in limited, or no functionality.

The LCD screen that indicates which front door is open, is also fed via the CAN gate. You can't just swap wires round. If you open the left front door, it will indicate the right front door is open, and vice versa. The same applies to the rear doors. You might need a LHD can module. I had a similar issue, converting a 2007 Range Rover Vogue to LHD, I can't remember how I got round CAN issues, I'll have to dig deep to see what I ended up doing.

It's not an easy job, lots of scope to get things horribly wrong. Honestly, it's cheaper to sell your Autobiography, and purchase a LHD Range Rover Sport. Then fit the trim and other accessories, that make an Autobiography what it is. I know you said you'd lose money, if you sold it. But that's life. You purchased this SUV new, so you will always lose money, come resale time. It's not an appreciating classic, it's a current, depreciating mainstream model.

I recall you saying you'd supervise the job in Nigeria. But, really? Come on, man! If you truly knew enough about the swap, you'd be doing it yourself, before exporting the car! I have no idea how Nigerian garages operate, but I know one thin g's for sure - I would not have the owner of a vehicle, watching over my shoulder, while I carry out a procedure, that's as complex as this. If the customer did insist, then I would politely advice him or her to take their car elsewhere.

I would strongly advice you to reconsider this undertaking.
Thanks for your wonderful listings, I had some of that in mind, let me go fru them one by one, lets seee waht I can eliminate


LHD Instrumental cluster( the one in this car has no orientation, so I think I can use same one
LHD centre console: This does has orientation as to the storage space and the Gear multi dial, infact Im planning to leave it as it is not touching it at all.
LHD sterring rack lines,: WOnt I be able to use same RHD ones for same purpose?I did thesame thing on my passat and a pathfinder, waht do you recon
LHD Passenger airbag unit:I have met with a company that sells just the upper dash complete with dash unit. for £600
LHD Brake buster,.This has no orientation as well might just swap
LHD Gear shift.This has no Gear knob at all and tha assembly on the center console I plan to leave grin
Door cards,Im lucky I do not have to change door cards, as teh switches are on a trim and the trims come off, so I just need to buy the LHD switches and LHD trims.
LHD door handles,:both L n R are same, just the trims cut are different orientation due to the switches, pics would be bellow,
TBH, Im a bit concerned about this CAN Issues you just raised.
where did you get your parts from during the 2007 vogue work you did?
Germany still?
However its a bit comforting knowing full well Im not selling this car after the work but using it.
You do remember you got me my parts for the passat conversion back in the days right?
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by nurey(m): 9:58pm On Jul 22, 2016
Since I am a novice mechanic, what I will advice is, there is nothing you are looking for that is not available here in Nigeria. Siena has advised it's better to sell than convert so the question is this

1. Are you after the diesel engine or
2. It's the trim that's your concern

If i were in your shoes, I will look for someone to source for that same car in Nigeria with the right hand drive as in the side with the recommended driving position "hey I just rhymed there" sell off yours and then the expert will advice what you will need to put that into top notch shape besides naira has depreciated so you are covered. In lay man's terms
By a Nigerian used "cuts cost"
Ship the required parts to make it look good
Sell off the Europe one
Fix the parts into the Nigerian used
Good job well done
Call Nurey to celebrate and test drive
Smile at your win win situation
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by erico2k2(m): 10:28pm On Jul 22, 2016
nurey:
Since I am a novice mechanic, what I will advice is, there is nothing you are looking for that is not available here in Nigeria. Siena has advised it's better to sell than convert so the question is this

1. Are you after the diesel engine or
2. It's the trim that's your concern

If i were in your shoes, I will look for someone to source for that same car in Nigeria with the right hand drive as in the side with the recommended driving position "hey I just rhymed there" sell off yours and then the expert will advice what you will need to put that into top notch shape besides naira has depreciated so you are covered. In lay man's terms
By a Nigerian used "cuts cost"
Ship the required parts to make it look good
Sell off the Europe one
Fix the parts into the Nigerian used
Good job well done
Call Nurey to celebrate and test drive
Smile at your win win situation
Yep Im after the Diesel Engine and also,this is the factory ATB not kitted, so it wont be same, and have you seen the Autobiography on the Nigerian road close to you?
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by nurey(m): 10:45pm On Jul 22, 2016
erico2k2:

Yep Im after the Diesel Engine and also,this is the factory ATB not kitted, so it wont be same, and have you seen the Autobiography on the Nigerian road close to you?

Autobiography is pure water in my area Lagos (Ikoyi, VI, lekki) and Co. But the diesel nah the issue I think they are petrol.

But bros if you want diesel, you will get but it will cost you not only money but stress too.

But bros let's do Audi Q7 V12 quattro diesel TDI when you get to naija, we will smoke the competition in style and class
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by erico2k2(m): 11:48pm On Jul 22, 2016
nurey:


Autobiography is pure water in my area Lagos (Ikoyi, VI, lekki) and Co. But the diesel nah the issue I think they are petrol.

But bros if you want diesel, you will get but it will cost you not only money but stress too.

But bros let's do Audi Q7 V12 quattro diesel TDI when you get to naija, we will smoke the competition in style and class
lol well what you see mostly is the kitted versions,we 4 9ja get mouth sha, plenty like pure water,even in teh Uk E nor plenty like pure water and its made here.As they are limited , check nairaland post me to one for sale grin grin

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Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by Nobody: 3:06am On Jul 23, 2016
erico2k2:

lol well what you see mostly is the kitted versions,we 4 9ja get mouth sha, plenty like pure water,even in teh Uk E nor plenty like pure water and its made here.As they are limited , check nairaland post me to one for sale grin grin

Believe it or not even the 2015 Autobiography plenty like pure water without nafdac number using a diesel range will cost you more cos you would always need some additives our diesel here is shit.

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Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by GAZZUZZ(m): 3:46am On Jul 23, 2016
Siena:
Parts required to convert a RHD Range Rover Sport, to LHD:

LHD dash / fascia, upper.
LHD dash / fascia, lower.
LHD instrument cluster.
LHD dash wiring harness (main).
LHD centre console.
LHD HVAC unit (behind dash / fascia).
LHD HVAC refrigerant pipes.
LHD dash / fascia support frame.
LHD HVAC heater core, and pipes.
LHD steering rack.
LHD steering rack high pressure line*.
LHD steering rack return line*.
LHD adjustable steering column.
LHD passenger airbag assembly.
LHD pedal box assembly.
LHD brake booster.
LHD brake hard lines (from master cylinder, to ABS hydraulic modulator).
LHD wiper motor and mechanism.
LHD wiper arms.
LHD bonnet release cable and handle.
LHD gearshift assembly.
LHD carpet.
LHD front door cards, with master switch panel**.
LHD power front seats.
LHD external rear view mirrors.
LHD headlamps.
LHD front door handles.

*Hydraulic power assisted steering models only.
**Depending on model.

It is worth noting, the Range Rover Sport, uses CAN communication for the instrument cluster. Incorrect coding, can result in limited, or no functionality.

The LCD screen that indicates which front door is open, is also fed via the CAN gate. You can't just swap wires round. If you open the left front door, it will indicate the right front door is open, and vice versa. The same applies to the rear doors. You might need a LHD can module. I had a similar issue, converting a 2007 Range Rover Vogue to LHD, I can't remember how I got round CAN issues, I'll have to dig deep to see what I ended up doing.

It's not an easy job, lots of scope to get things horribly wrong. Honestly, it's cheaper to sell your Autobiography, and purchase a LHD Range Rover Sport. Then fit the trim and other accessories, that make an Autobiography what it is. I know you said you'd lose money, if you sold it. But that's life. You purchased this SUV new, so you will always lose money, come resale time. It's not an appreciating classic, it's a current, depreciating mainstream model.

I recall you saying you'd supervise the job in Nigeria. But, really? Come on, man! If you truly knew enough about the swap, you'd be doing it yourself, before exporting the car! I have no idea how Nigerian garages operate, but I know one thin g's for sure - I would not have the owner of a vehicle, watching over my shoulder, while I carry out a procedure, that's as complex as this. If the customer did insist, then I would politely advice him or her to take their car elsewhere.

I would strongly advice you to reconsider this undertaking.


Very important point.

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Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by erico2k2(m): 6:49am On Jul 23, 2016
cne010:


Believe it or not even the 2015 Autobiography plenty like pure water without nafdac number using a diesel range will cost you more cos you would always need some additives our diesel here is shit.
But I heard the petrol ones needs additives as well
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by kingreign(m): 6:55am On Jul 23, 2016
Siena:
Parts required to convert a RHD Range Rover Sport, to LHD:

LHD dash / fascia, upper.
LHD dash / fascia, lower.
LHD instrument cluster.
LHD dash wiring harness (main).
LHD centre console.
LHD HVAC unit (behind dash / fascia).
LHD HVAC refrigerant pipes.
LHD dash / fascia support frame.
LHD HVAC heater core, and pipes.
LHD steering rack.
LHD steering rack high pressure line*.
LHD steering rack return line*.
LHD adjustable steering column.
LHD passenger airbag assembly.
LHD pedal box assembly.
LHD brake booster.
LHD brake hard lines (from master cylinder, to ABS hydraulic modulator).
LHD wiper motor and mechanism.
LHD wiper arms.
LHD bonnet release cable and handle.
LHD gearshift assembly.
LHD carpet.
LHD front door cards, with master switch panel**.
LHD power front seats.
LHD external rear view mirrors.
LHD headlamps.
LHD front door handles.

*Hydraulic power assisted steering models only.
**Depending on model.

It is worth noting, the Range Rover Sport, uses CAN communication for the instrument cluster. Incorrect coding, can result in limited, or no functionality.

The LCD screen that indicates which front door is open, is also fed via the CAN gate. You can't just swap wires round. If you open the left front door, it will indicate the right front door is open, and vice versa. The same applies to the rear doors. You might need a LHD can module. I had a similar issue, converting a 2007 Range Rover Vogue to LHD, I can't remember how I got round CAN issues, I'll have to dig deep to see what I ended up doing.

It's not an easy job, lots of scope to get things horribly wrong. Honestly, it's cheaper to sell your Autobiography, and purchase a LHD Range Rover Sport. Then fit the trim and other accessories, that make an Autobiography what it is. I know you said you'd lose money, if you sold it. But that's life. You purchased this SUV new, so you will always lose money, come resale time. It's not an appreciating classic, it's a current, depreciating mainstream model.

I recall you saying you'd supervise the job in Nigeria. But, really? Come on, man! If you truly knew enough about the swap, you'd be doing it yourself, before exporting the car! I have no idea how Nigerian garages operate, but I know one thin g's for sure - I would not have the owner of a vehicle, watching over my shoulder, while I carry out a procedure, that's as complex as this. If the customer did insist, then I would politely advice him or her to take their car elsewhere.

I would strongly advice you to reconsider this undertaking.

This is what I will start implementing starting from today.
I don't supervise people doing their own business or work, when they bring cars to me, they shouldn't assume that supervisory role.

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Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by LeJeun3: 8:25am On Jul 23, 2016




@ OP, you now understand why I have been pretty insistent on speaking directly with you on this issue. Some of the decisions to be made in a conversion are a matter of conscience.
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by erico2k2(m): 8:36am On Jul 23, 2016
LeJeun3:




@ OP, you now understand why I have been pretty insistent on speaking directly with you on this issue. Some of the decisions to be made in a conversion are a matter of conscience.
Yep U are right will hola U but first I have to make an informed decision .
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by Nobody: 9:14am On Jul 23, 2016
kingreign:


This is what I will start implementing starting from today.
I don't supervise people doing their own business or work, when they bring cars to me, they shouldn't assume that supervisory role.

Oddly enough, I've never had a Caucasean stand over me, while I'm working, even if I'm carrying out a major procedure, like an engine conversion, engine strip-down, rebuilding to run forced induction, etc.

On the other hand, a Nigeria would bring his car over to me, for a minor procedure, like a timing belt replacement, and try to insist on hanging around. I simply drop the hood, they ask me am I postponing the job? I say no, I'm cancelling it. I don't do supervised jobs, they say they're not supervising, merely learning. I say, I don't run classes.

In the end, they leave. I never get the same issues with Nigerian girls / women, when they bring me their cars to work on. They trust me, to get on with it.

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Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by LeJeun3: 9:43am On Jul 23, 2016
Siena:

Oddly enough, I've never had a Caucasean stand over me, while I'm working, even if I'm carrying out a major procedure, like an engine conversion, engine strip-down, rebuilding to run forced induction, etc.
On the other hand, a Nigeria would bring his car over to me, for a minor procedure, like a timing belt replacement, and try to insist on hanging around. I simply drop the hood, they ask me am I postponing the job? I say no, I'm cancelling it. I don't do supervised jobs, they say they're not supervising, merely learning. I say, I don't run classes.
In the end, they leave. I never get the same issues with Nigerian girls / women, when they bring me their cars to work on. They trust me, to get on with it.


Bad badoo baddest.................. grin tongue cheesy

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Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by Specialist900(m): 11:41am On Jul 23, 2016
Siena:


Oddly enough, I've never had a Caucasean stand over me, while I'm working, even if I'm carrying out a major procedure, like an engine conversion, engine strip-down, rebuilding to run forced induction, etc.

On the other hand, a Nigeria would bring his car over to me, for a minor procedure, like a timing belt replacement, and try to insist on hanging around. I simply drop the hood, they ask me am I postponing the job? I say no, I'm cancelling it. I don't do supervised jobs, they say they're not supervising, merely learning. I say, I don't run classes.

In the end, they leave. I never get the same issues with Nigerian girls / women, when they bring me their cars to work on. They trust me, to get on with it.
it's basically trust issues, some of our mechanics aren't trusted. Personally, sometimes my mechanic comes to carry my car to fix. Returns it when he's done with the fix. Other times, I take it to his garage and return later to pick up the car.


If he wants to learn, he should come register grin

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Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by Specialist900(m): 12:01pm On Jul 23, 2016
Op,

Is it that there is a special build for the UK market that can't be found in builds for other markets?
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by erico2k2(m): 12:15pm On Jul 23, 2016
Siena:


Oddly enough, I've never had a Caucasean stand over me, while I'm working, even if I'm carrying out a major procedure, like an engine conversion, engine strip-down, rebuilding to run forced induction, etc.

On the other hand, a Nigeria would bring his car over to me, for a minor procedure, like a timing belt replacement, and try to insist on hanging around. I simply drop the hood, they ask me am I postponing the job? I say no, I'm cancelling it. I don't do supervised jobs, they say they're not supervising, merely learning. I say, I don't run classes.

In the end, they leave. I never get the same issues with Nigerian girls / women, when they bring me their cars to work on. They trust me, to get on with it.
If for one reason U are in Nigeria and you felt you need your car sorted and you can't be bothered to get dirty never leave your car alone with the mechanics try that you will 4 ever tell the story . Something will go miss or a case of cooling bleed will turn to changing your ECU 9ja guys sha not all but few bad eggs have cast a dark name on the good ones

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Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by erico2k2(m): 12:20pm On Jul 23, 2016
Specialist900:
Op,

Is it that there is a special build for the UK market that can't be found in builds for other markets?
I'm trying to understand your question ?
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by Nobody: 12:48pm On Jul 23, 2016
erico2k2:

I'm trying to understand your question ?

I think he means, wouldn't it be best to sell your UK-spec Autobiography, and source a similar trim level that's LHD?
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by erico2k2(m): 1:27pm On Jul 23, 2016
Siena:


I think he means, wouldn't it be best to sell your UK-spec Autobiography, and source a similar trim level that's LHD?
Ok I get it.
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by Specialist900(m): 1:27pm On Jul 23, 2016
erico2k2:

I'm trying to understand your question ?
OK, is it that the range rover built for the UK market(RHD) has special feature that can't be found in those built for the US market or other markets (LHD)?
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by Specialist900(m): 1:30pm On Jul 23, 2016
erico2k2:

If for one reason U are in Nigeria and you felt you need your car sorted and you can't be bothered to get dirty never leave your car alone with the mechanics try that you will 4 ever tell the story . Something will go miss or a case of cooling bleed will turn to changing your ECU 9ja guys sha not all but few bad eggs have cast a dark name on the good ones
exactly, some mechanics will intentionally or unintentionally create a fault that will make you return back to them for further fixes.

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Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by Specialist900(m): 1:31pm On Jul 23, 2016
Siena:


I think he means, wouldn't it be best to sell your UK-spec Autobiography, and source a similar trim level that's LHD?
well spoken sir. Thanks
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by diportivo: 1:38pm On Jul 23, 2016
My elder bro had his 07 rrs diesel engine converted in ladipo by one mike guy in 2014

Car still dey kampe till now

I drive it very often

It wasn't smooth all the way even tho the mike guy seems to know his onions

Most,if not all of the parts,were sourced locally...u can't see it and think it were converted if not for the plain rear windows dat can get u thinking.since we av most rrs here from Yankee with tinted windows

I think it is doable....and yes,u have to be breathing down the conversion guy's neck all the way grin

Especially those dat are used to cutting corners

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Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by erico2k2(m): 1:59pm On Jul 23, 2016
diportivo:
My elder bro had his 07 rrs diesel engine converted in ladipo by one mike guy in 2014

Car still dey kampe till now

I drive it very often

It wasn't smooth all the way even tho the mike guy seems to know his onions

Most,if not all of the parts,were sourced locally...u can't see it and think it were converted if not for the plain rear windows dat can get u thinking.since we av most rrs here from Yankee with tinted windows

I think it is doable....and yes,u have to be breathing down the conversion guy's neck all the way grin

Especially those dat are used to cutting corners
Nice one.Yeh that's cool . And what did you mean by If not for the plain rear windows ? Did youen ur Bros own carry plain windows ?
And Yeh u get to breathe down their neck
One time I paid 4 a pedal box and they heat treated the RHD one to fit on it but dem nor know say I mark am.
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by Nobody: 3:26pm On Jul 23, 2016
erico2k2:

But I heard the petrol ones needs additives as well

not as bad as bad the diesel ones
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by erico2k2(m): 4:09pm On Jul 23, 2016
cne010:


not as bad as bad the diesel ones
Ok noted but I'm willing to explore diesel as it gives you more mile/galon
Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by erico2k2(m): 4:10pm On Jul 23, 2016
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Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by Nobody: 4:25pm On Jul 23, 2016
erico2k2:

If for one reason U are in Nigeria and you felt you need your car sorted and you can't be bothered to get dirty never leave your car alone with the mechanics try that you will 4 ever tell the story . Something will go miss or a case of cooling bleed will turn to changing your ECU 9ja guys sha not all but few bad eggs have cast a dark name on the good ones

Eric, since you are aware that there are good technicians in Nigeria, the only reason you would patronise the bad ones, are cost. You want a top notch job, but you're not willing to pay for the privilege.

Take your car to a franchised shop, or at least a shop with good credentials, then you can at least relax. If they wreck your car, they have a lot more than just their reputation to lose - it'll cost them financially too. They will also have Public Liability Insurance.

Anyone who hangs around my shop, in the name of "assisting" or "supervising", won't get their cars fixed by me. Besides, what you want doing to your Autobiography, won't be completed in 5 days, if it's done properly. I would say, at least 2 weeks. What do you plan to do then?

Sleep at the shop for the duration of the job?
Stay for each day, and tell the technician to stop work, when you're leaving?
Stay for each day, and take your car home with you, bringing it back the following day, to repeat the same thing? *Flatbed truck*.

I think you're underestimating how much work is involved, in converting a 2011 Range Rover Sport Autobiography, from RHD to LHD. Find a franchised shop, and pay the rate set by them. Such shops would not agree to you watching them work, besides being extremely distracting, if your got hurt whilst you were "supervising", they would ultimately be responsible. I'm not referring to shade tree mechanics here, but real, trained technicians, who will be working to set standards.

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Re: Conversion RHD To LHD 2012 Range Rover Autobiography Sport by erico2k2(m): 4:50pm On Jul 23, 2016
Siena:


Eric, since you are aware that there are good technicians in Nigeria, the only reason you would patronise the bad ones, are cost. You want a top notch job, but you're not willing to pay for the privilege.

Take your car to a franchised shop, or at least a shop with good credentials, then you can at least relax. If they wreck your car, they have a lot more than just their reputation to lose - it'll cost them financially too. They will also have Public Liability Insurance.

Anyone who hangs around my shop, in the name of "assisting" or "supervising", won't get their cars fixed by me. Besides, what you want doing to your Autobiography, won't be completed in 5 days, if it's done properly. I would say, at least 2 weeks. What do you plan to do then?

Sleep at the shop for the duration of the job?
Stay for each day, and tell the technician to stop work, when you're leaving?
Stay for each day, and take your car home with you, bringing it back the following day, to repeat the same thing? *Flatbed truck*.

I think you're underestimating how much work is involved, in converting a 2011 Range Rover Sport Autobiography, from RHD to LHD. Find a franchised shop, and pay the rate set by them. Such shops would not agree to you watching them work, besides being extremely distracting, if your got hurt whilst you were "supervising", they would ultimately be responsible. I'm not referring to shade tree mechanics here, but real, trained technicians, who will be working to set standards.
My brother from Isoko U should know me by now.I'm never going to a roadside for this RRAS . No way.The only way I'm trying to reduce cost is by sourcing for the major parts here if push comes to shove then I will have to move my backside to the US of A.
Do not worry about the supervision bit I'm not planning on doing any of that per say but I will keep an eye out . Also I have e learnt from expirienc to sit in the car with the technician and go fru every functions and these functions must be same at end of conversion .
I am taking your advice and that of others very seriously .

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