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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by balash(m): 4:56pm On Aug 14, 2016
cococandy:
lmao. The book wants them to be? Comprehension issue my friend.



Duh. Is that not the whole point of the book, for them to recognize such situations and run away from it?

liar. Am I the one who said "homosexuality is being promoted in the weirdest way"? Your comment is still up there and you're already doing a 360 degree turn about.


Lame.

Summary is that Your paranoia over homosexuality led you to abandon common sense before creating this thread. Just back up and admit your mistake.

Don't wanna argue anything with you again! Your claims would have been better If you just know am not comdemning the book, am only pointing out the private parts words that kids shouldn't even have knowledge of been intimate at ALL
Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by Nobody: 6:05pm On Aug 14, 2016
Joavid:


the bolded is unnecessary. All in a bid to make yourself feel better and superior.

The fact that you already know the full book and it's title doesn't mean they lack reasoning or logic.

the only person that should be attacked is the OP, for uploading just one page of the book and spreading misinformation.

That said, The way the writer of the book is conveying the message is not proper and can be misunderstood by kids. Did they have to include the images

She is right 100%.

Next time people should use their brain before jumping to conclusions that are based on nothing but prejudice.

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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by blank(f): 7:36pm On Aug 14, 2016
balash:


Don't wanna argue anything with you again! Your claims would have been better If you just know am not comdemning the book, am only pointing out the private parts words that kids shouldn't even have knowledge of been intimate at ALL

How do you warn kids against a predator without mentioning private parts?

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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by Nobody: 8:24pm On Aug 14, 2016
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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by balash(m): 7:55am On Aug 15, 2016
blank:


How do you warn kids against a predator without mentioning private parts?

Okay! I just felt it's not nice but if you say otherwise though,

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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by balash(m): 10:43am On Aug 15, 2016
blank:


How do you warn kids against a predator without mentioning private parts?

Thanks for commenting in a very matured way! I. Understand better that way not relating with me in an insultive way
Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by lily12(f): 11:31am On Aug 15, 2016
balash:
So I saw this and felt it's nice to share so that parents can take close watch on what your kids read. Homosexuality is been promoted in the weirdest way

I'm with balash on this one. You don't need to explicitly explain something in order to discourage someone from doing it. When it comes to children, you definitely DON'T want to tell them something is "enjoyable" and then tell them not to try it. As much as this book comes off as having good intentions, I'm actually very suspicious of the author's intentions and I think it could do more harm than good.

How is this different from showing teenagers porn and telling them to be sexually pure? How is it different from giving a child a glass of some sweet dessert wine and then telling them it is bad for them, and expecting them not to try to reach your wine rack or wine cabinet to get another try when you are away? I remember one music video from a different country where it was a warning to Christians not to indulge in alcohol and sex but the thing was so sexually explicit, yet when I asked about it I was told "You will understand when you are spiritually mature."

In my view, all it takes is to tell a child "Don't let anybody touch you here/there. If ANYONE does, let me know, okay? Even if they tell you it is a secret, make sure you tell me, okay?" Reassure the child that nobody will beat them or harm them if you tell them. And pray pray pray pray. Be close to your children so that they can open up to you. All this red eye, attitude, and glaring when a child says "Mummy" will not help.

Then, it would also behoove parents of these days to monitor who their children spend time with. No offense to Onegai and those who side with her but what if their children decide to experiment on this "enjoyable" thing using your children?

We were all once children. We know these things.

For those of you who do not yet have children but trust that God has marriage and/or children in His plans for you, biko, lay hands on your womb and begin to battle. Things are bad. The world has changed. Mothers, SOMEONE will raise your children. I saw a thread here about "career or marriage?" and just shook my head. If someone has no time for their marriage, where will their children fall in their list of priorities? If you don't take time to be close to your children, they will be raised by your housekeeper, their teachers, and books such as this one. And because God has placed you as a steward over your children, you will be answerable for the way they turn out. These days it is relatives who do these things. I work with women and have heard stories. Mothers, I beg of you. Take your role seriously. Fathers, be present. I don't know who I am typing this for but I feel someone needs to read it. I rarely sign into Nairaland sef.

Oga balash, I for one am grateful that you shared this. Thank you and God bless you.

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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by Nobody: 11:43am On Aug 15, 2016
Mindfulness:


She is right 100%.


of course she is to you.


Next time people should use their brain before jumping to conclusions that are based on nothing but prejudice.

Prejudice?


They judged based on the information provided by the op. just a page in a book.

your onegai should have attacked only the Op for uploading half-truths not the others commenting based on the information he provided.

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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by yetseyi(f): 3:45pm On Aug 15, 2016
lily12:


I'm with balash on this one. You don't need to explicitly explain something in order to discourage someone from doing it. When it comes to children, you definitely DON'T want to tell them something is "enjoyable" and then tell them not to try it. As much as this book comes off as having good intentions, I'm actually very suspicious of the author's intentions and I think it could do more harm than good.

How is this different from showing teenagers porn and telling them to be sexually pure? How is it different from giving a child a glass of some sweet dessert wine and then telling them it is bad for them, and expecting them not to try to reach your wine rack or wine cabinet to get another try when you are away? I remember one music video from a different country where it was a warning to Christians not to indulge in alcohol and sex but the thing was so sexually explicit, yet when I asked about it I was told "You will understand when you are spiritually mature."

In my view, all it takes is to tell a child "Don't let anybody touch you here/there. If ANYONE does, let me know, okay? Even if they tell you it is a secret, make sure you tell me, okay?" Reassure the child that nobody will beat them or harm them if you tell them. And pray pray pray pray. Be close to your children so that they can open up to you. All this red eye, attitude, and glaring when a child says "Mummy" will not help.

Then, it would also behoove parents of these days to monitor who their children spend time with. No offense to Onegai and those who side with her but what if their children decide to experiment on this "enjoyable" thing using your children?

We were all once children. We know these things.

For those of you who do not yet have children but trust that God has marriage and/or children in His plans for you, biko, lay hands on your womb and begin to battle. Things are bad. The world has changed. Mothers, SOMEONE will raise your children. I saw a thread here about "career or marriage?" and just shook my head. If someone has no time for their marriage, where will their children fall in their list of priorities? If you don't take time to be close to your children, they will be raised by your housekeeper, their teachers, and books such as this one. And because God has placed you as a steward over your children, you will be answerable for the way they turn out. These days it is relatives who do these things. I work with women and have heard stories. Mothers, I beg of you. Take your role seriously. Fathers, be present. I don't know who I am typing this for but I feel someone needs to read it. I rarely sign into Nairaland sef.

Oga balash, I for one am grateful that you shared this. Thank you and God bless you.

I agree with you.






By the way I believe one can always post a superior argument to inform/educate but some statements are really not necessary.

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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by Onegai(f): 4:31pm On Aug 15, 2016
lily12:


I'm with balash on this one. You don't need to explicitly explain something in order to discourage someone from doing it. When it comes to children, you definitely DON'T want to tell them something is "enjoyable" and then tell them not to try it. As much as this book comes off as having good intentions, I'm actually very suspicious of the author's intentions and I think it could do more harm than good.

How is this different from showing teenagers porn and telling them to be sexually pure? How is it different from giving a child a glass of some sweet dessert wine and then telling them it is bad for them, and expecting them not to try to reach your wine rack or wine cabinet to get another try when you are away? I remember one music video from a different country where it was a warning to Christians not to indulge in alcohol and sex but the thing was so sexually explicit, yet when I asked about it I was told "You will understand when you are spiritually mature."

In my view, all it takes is to tell a child "Don't let anybody touch you here/there. If ANYONE does, let me know, okay? Even if they tell you it is a secret, make sure you tell me, okay?" Reassure the child that nobody will beat them or harm them if you tell them. And pray pray pray pray. Be close to your children so that they can open up to you. All this red eye, attitude, and glaring when a child says "Mummy" will not help.

Then, it would also behoove parents of these days to monitor who their children spend time with. No offense to Onegai and those who side with her but what if their children decide to experiment on this "enjoyable" thing using your children?

We were all once children. We know these things.

For those of you who do not yet have children but trust that God has marriage and/or children in His plans for you, biko, lay hands on your womb and begin to battle. Things are bad. The world has changed. Mothers, SOMEONE will raise your children. I saw a thread here about "career or marriage?" and just shook my head. If someone has no time for their marriage, where will their children fall in their list of priorities? If you don't take time to be close to your children, they will be raised by your housekeeper, their teachers, and books such as this one. And because God has placed you as a steward over your children, you will be answerable for the way they turn out. These days it is relatives who do these things. I work with women and have heard stories. Mothers, I beg of you. Take your role seriously. Fathers, be present. I don't know who I am typing this for but I feel someone needs to read it. I rarely sign into Nairaland sef.

Oga balash, I for one am grateful that you shared this. Thank you and God bless you.

Did you read anything I wrote? If you had, please point out to me where I said I supported this. I said, and I'm quite sure it is up there for the world to see: "This book is explicit because it is written for a society that is explicit. It is a more explicit version of a book called "Don't touch me there". It may be too much for Nigerians "standards" but it (that is, the subject of the book) is very necessary in our society".

Again, I ask: why did no-one stop to consider the danger of allowing someone give you a half-truth and you run away with it? Because one day, I can easily start a riot based on a half-truth and you may end up getting caught up in it and get physically hurt. Giving half-truths is why we are here we are currently in our society. Even worse, this half-truth was so easy to see that it was based on a lie and yet, no-one condemned it. I'm sure you are against public lynchings, but it is this kind of unthinking process that ends up as a public lynching: someone accuses someone else based on a half-truth and unthinkingly, that person gets killed.

If I sounded angry, I am. Because we are in this current mess in our society becauss people don't stop to think. We accept whatever we are told blindly and reach on that.

Let me give you a real-life example: when the economy started crashing in 2014, NOI came out and said the economy was not so bad. A half-truth. I, on the other hand, could see that oil prices were falling internationally (news was freely available to the whole world, it was there all over the internet, other countries were warning about it). So I asked some few people in the know, and I remember clearly, they said we should get ready and brace ourselves for a bad economy. Did you see things getting this bad, did you protect yourself and your family, are you not now thinking that if only you had probed a bit more, maybe you would have bought dollars at N184 and been changing it slowly now, to ease the financial burdens a little? I queried that lie because it didn't match the evidence before me. I'm no economist, I barely understand the subject but I knew a half-truth when I saw NOI say it.

Imagine if the man who wrote this book lived in Nigeria, he would be dead by now. What if he were yoir husband?

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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by Onegai(f): 4:38pm On Aug 15, 2016
The OP wrote this thread and put up that picture as if the book was promoting Paedophilia and Homosexuality. And people ran away with it. Not one person stopped to go "that cannot be right, this makes no sense". Later on, we will be wondering how some radical Imam will preach Hate and people will start killing their neighbours and be blaming Islam.

Sometimes I don't know why I speak up. I've been thinking of leaving this place because I'm so, so tired and it's so hard to accept this is my society. Or was it because I didn't mention God and sound spiritual??

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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by blank(f): 5:52pm On Aug 15, 2016
@Lilly12, You have it mixed up. The book is for people who have already been exposed to sexual predators. They already know that it feels good to be touched although wrong. It has affected their lives and now they think they are gay. The book tries to explain to them what happened and why they feel the way they do.

It is not for all children same way you won't give a seeing child a braille book to read. It is for those who have been damaged and it helps them work through their feelings and sort it out. If you have ever worked with abused kids, you will understand. There is no need telling lies and saying it didn't feel good. Remember, they have experienced it and it felt good (sex usually feels good). The book doesn't dwell on the feeling good part but on how they can overcome such.

Saying private parts is too raw for a child is just fooling ourselves. If you don't teach them to protect their private parts, some pervert uncle or aunty will teach them in a way that could scar them for life.

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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:05pm On Aug 15, 2016
balash:


Don't wanna argue anything with you again! Your claims would have been better If you just know am not comdemning the book, am only pointing out the private parts words that kids shouldn't even have knowledge of been intimate at ALL

Thanks for your post and your point is noted. Different taste for different folks. That is even the reason why we must check the books before given our children to read. Some of us might not feel comfortable about the way the message is passed.
Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:16pm On Aug 15, 2016
Onegai:


Did you read anything I wrote? If you had, please point out to me where I said I supported this. I said, and I'm quite sure it is up there for the world to see: "This book is explicit because it is written for a society that is explicit. It is a more explicit version of a book called "Don't touch me there". It may be too much for Nigerians "standards" but it (that is, the subject of the book) is very necessary in our society".

Again, I ask: why did no-one stop to consider the danger of allowing someone give you a half-truth and you run away with it? Because one day, I can easily start a riot based on a half-truth and you may end up getting caught up in it and get physically hurt. Giving half-truths is why we are here we are currently in our society. Even worse, this half-truth was so easy to see that it was based on a lie and yet, no-one condemned it. I'm sure you are against public lynchings, but it is this kind of unthinking process that ends up as a public lynching: someone accuses someone else based on a half-truth and unthinkingly, that person gets killed.

If I sounded angry, I am. Because we are in this current mess in our society becauss people don't stop to think. We accept whatever we are told blindly and reach on that.

Let me give you a real-life example: when the economy started crashing in 2014, NOI came out and said the economy was not so bad. A half-truth. I, on the other hand, could see that oil prices were falling internationally (news was freely available to the whole world, it was there all over the internet, other countries were warning about it). So I asked some few people in the know, and I remember clearly, they said we should get ready and brace ourselves for a bad economy. Did you see things getting this bad, did you protect yourself and your family, are you not now thinking that if only you had probed a bit more, maybe you would have bought dollars at N184 and been changing it slowly now, to ease the financial burdens a little? I queried that lie because it didn't match the evidence before me. I'm no economist, I barely understand the subject but I knew a half-truth when I saw NOI say it.

Imagine if the man who wrote this book lived in Nigeria, he would be dead by now. What if he were yoir husband?

If you believe this book is for an explicit set of people, then balash message is clear. Not because a book has a fancy cover with cartoons on it, we should allow all kids read it.
Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:22pm On Aug 15, 2016
Onegai:
The OP wrote this thread and put up that picture as if the book was promoting Paedophilia and Homosexuality. And people ran away with it. Not one person stopped to go "that cannot be right, this makes no sense". Later on, we will be wondering how some radical Imam will preach Hate and people will start killing their neighbours and be blaming Islam.

Sometimes I don't know why I speak up. I've been thinking of leaving this place because I'm so, so tired and it's so hard to accept this is my society. Or was it because I didn't mention God and sound spiritual??

You are looking at the post of the OP from the authors perspective. If you look at it from an innocent kid's eyes. A kid who has not experienced such things, you will understand the gravity of a parent taking such story book and handing it to a child.

There is a good and important message balash passed.
Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by blank(f): 7:54pm On Aug 15, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


You are looking at the post of the OP from the authors perspective. If you look at it from an innocent kid's eyes. A kid who has not experienced such things, you will understand the gravity of a parent taking such story book and handing it to a child.

There is a good and important message balash passed.

The point is that the book is not for innocent kid's eyes. It's for kids who have seen things that they should not.
Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by Theflint1(m): 8:31pm On Aug 15, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


If you believe this book is for an explicit set of people, then balash message is clear. Not because a book has a fancy cover with cartoons on it, we should allow all kids read it.

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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:36pm On Aug 15, 2016
blank:


The point is that the book is not for innocent kid's eyes. It's for kids who have seen things that they should not.

That is the point of the book. Not the point of balash. He is warning that a book may look suitable for kids due to its appearance but it is not.

Apart from this book, there are also books for children that are not suitable for all children. Parents should take the effort of going through what they give their children to read.
Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by drnoel: 9:36pm On Aug 15, 2016
balash:
So I saw this and felt it's nice to share so that parents can take close watch on what your kids read. Homosexuality is been promoted in the weirdest way


Blood of jesus
Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by balash(m): 10:23pm On Aug 15, 2016
Onegai:
The OP wrote this thread and put up that picture as if the book was promoting Paedophilia and Homosexuality. And people ran away with it. Not one person stopped to go "that cannot be right, this makes no sense". Later on, we will be wondering how some radical Imam will preach Hate and people will start killing their neighbours and be blaming Islam.

Sometimes I don't know why I speak up. I've been thinking of leaving this place because I'm so, so tired and it's so hard to accept this is my society. Or was it because I didn't mention God and sound spiritual??

You have a Lil issue? Understanding...
Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by simiolu1(m): 8:42am On Aug 16, 2016
To those who think this author is too explicit, please note that the book was written first and foremost for the American society that is in itself explicit.

That being said, the OP shouldn't have posted 'half truth' as that is what he did. He took a page from a whole book and used it as a benchmark to judge the book.

To those who think the author is too explicit, then you need to look up a guy Praise Fowowe. The first time I heard the guy speak, I was dumbfounded. The truth is that homosexuality & paedophilia are on the rise. That's a truth all parents know.

Whether you want to be explicit or not in warning your child should be determined by you. But, you have to educate your child.

My 2 cents

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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by balash(m): 8:58am On Aug 16, 2016
simiolu1:
To those who think this author is too explicit, please note that the book was written first she foremost for the American society that is in itself explicit.

That being said, the OP shouldn't have posted 'half truth' as that is what he did. He took a page from a whole book and used it as a benchmark to judge the book.

To those who think the author is too explicit, then you need to look up a guy Praise Fowowe. The first time I heard the guy speak, I was dumbfounded. The truth is that Homosexuality & paedophilia are on there rise. That's a truth all parents know. Whether you want to be explicit or not in warning your child should be determined by you. But, you have to educate your child.

My 2 cents

It's simple! While growing up what Age where you introduced to opposite sex or homosexuality
Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by Nobody: 6:38pm On Aug 16, 2016
Joavid:


of course she is to you.



Prejudice?


They judged based on the information provided by the op. just a page in a book.

your onegai should have attacked only the Op for uploading half-truths not the others commenting based on the information he provided.


She did a good job in pointing out how easy it is to manipulate gullible people. This is why propaganda has always been an effective tool.
It's one thing to spread lies online, it's another to buy them without engaging one's brain.

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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by simiolu1(m): 9:50pm On Aug 16, 2016
balash:


It's simple! While growing up what Age where you introduced to opposite sex or homosexuality

First and foremost, I really really hope you know that the times are different. Also, note that I'm almost 30. So to compare the environment in which I grew up to the environment of today would be folly.

Nevertheless, while growing up sex education in Nigeria was almost non-existent. I vividly remember the first class I had on reproduction. Hearing my biology teacher call private organs by their names had me smiling from ear to ear like a sheep. In fact most of us in that class had never called our privates by their English biological names. I mean, we had nicknames for them!

Notwithstanding, my Dad had the only sex education talk with me one afternoon when he noticed that I had bushy hair down there... At first, I was ashamed talking to him about that kinda stuff. I mean, there was nothing he told me that I didn't already know as I had read my fair share of Better Lover, Hints and some other pornographic materials.

And that brings me to my point; parents are supposed to be the first person to teach their children about sex! Simples. I hope for your children's sake that you know this. That my dad didn't tell me early enough (we had that talk when I was in SS1) didn't mean he was right. Especially in these times that "Uncles", "Aunties", "Grandpas" and "grandmas" have taken their perverseness to another level.

Have a great night.

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Re: Warning! Lets Go Through Story Books Now Before Buying For Kids (picture) by duperola(f): 4:18am On Aug 17, 2016
the truth is,paedophilia has always been with us just dt it is on d rise now.there is no need shying away from d truth from the kids coz they see and know about all these things.better to let them know now than experience it.am sure the book is for a target audience and even d title would suggest that(I believe)!the book is for traumatizing children written by an ex-gay.guess that is his own way of reaching out

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