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Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by sleekp1: 4:46pm On Sep 29, 2009
morpheus24:

^
It is as much disturbing to you as Homosexuality is to another person so don't ask stupid questions like is it normal in my culture.


Must be normal in your society to have sex with 5yr olds, you've tried for 20mins to justify why it should be compared to homosexuality. To say sex with a 5yr old is not repulsive shows the danger your ilk are to humanity.
If this is your skewed view of normality then I have no more to say to you.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by morpheus24: 4:55pm On Sep 29, 2009
^ why are you hung up on the 5 year old age, maybe I should bump it up to 12 or 13 when a female is able to menstruate and biologically is able to get pregnant. maybe then we can speak of who determines if the thirteen year old is an adult, nature or nuture.



You refuse to answer any question I have posed to you,Maybe you should define what you consider normal "Consenting adult" human behavior when it comes to sexual orientation and your version of social evolution.

PLEASE!of course you have no more to say to me, thats the excuse people who are stuck in sentimental thinking and not enough  logic use.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Beaf: 5:37pm On Sep 29, 2009
A homo is as dangerous as a paedophile. Period!

Sodomy will very rightly get you in jail in Nigeria. Period!

Preservation of collective society is more important than the individual. That is why we have prisons, the death sentence etc.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by morpheus24: 6:09pm On Sep 29, 2009
^ @ beaf

Are you a SOCIALIST?
lol
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Beaf: 6:19pm On Sep 29, 2009
No Morpheus.

Far from it. I have a pragmatic approach to issues of a capitalist society though; there should be safety nets, checks and balances, ladders, protection of the consensual good, creation of opportunities etc. We can see where unbridled capitalism (with its attached consumption and "freedoms"wink have led the World; global economic meltdown, global warming etc.
But thats another long topic sha wink
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by kosovo(m): 6:30pm On Sep 29, 2009
Quote from: kosovo on Yesterday at 07:17:36 PM
Democracy is a Government for everybody, and as such has no racial, tribal, ethnic, religious, political, or sexual boundaries.

@AfroCynic
One of the best things I have read on Nairaland thus far,
  thanks grin
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by morpheus24: 6:51pm On Sep 29, 2009
@ beaf

So do I which is why I asked the question.

I have been studying the concept of egoism and how this has been embodied in the workings of capitalism s well as capitalit anarchism but like you said thats a whole different topic on its own.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by posakosa(m): 7:10pm On Sep 29, 2009
Abacha was a gay

Babangida is a gay



and the problem is ?



  cool cool cool cool

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Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Beaf: 7:22pm On Sep 29, 2009
posakosa:

Abacha was a gay

Babangida is a gay

and the problem is ?


  cool cool cool cool

They say Abacha died while humping 6 Indians. Are you saying he was sodomised to death by 6 Indian hunks? shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by yeswecan(m): 7:31pm On Sep 29, 2009
@poster

The answer is capital NO.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by posakosa(m): 8:00pm On Sep 29, 2009
Beaf:

They say Abacha died while humping 6 Indians. Are you saying he was sodomised to death by 6 Indian hunks? shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

I dont know about that, But one of Abacha's male lovers lived in my neighborhood back then. This lover used to gist my mom, now im not surprised about Political gays!

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Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by kosovo(m): 8:08pm On Sep 29, 2009
@yeswecan
@poster

The answer is capital NO.
no comment!
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by bawomolo(m): 8:47pm On Sep 29, 2009
Why exactly do they deserve a civil union? Is that what the majority ruled for?

the last time i checked, the nigerian government can enact laws without the vote of the majority.   The Supreme Court has the power to strike down laws voted in by the majority if they are deemed unconstitutional.

This happened during the civil rights era in the United States.   The majority have no right to oppress a minority.


I did not, in any way, imply such. In fact, I wasn't looking for happiness. I'm actually fine with being content. All I was saying was that, I would have simply preferred a "Yes" or "No" answer, because my question was indeed a "Yes" or "No" question. That's all.

the answer is a Yes.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by ChinenyeN(m): 12:17am On Sep 30, 2009
bawomolo:

the last time i checked, the nigerian government can enact laws without the vote of the majority. 
I guess Nigeria is not a democracy after all.

bawomolo:

The majority have no right to oppress a minority.
Okay. Now, in this case, how exactly are the majority oppressing a minority?

bawomolo:

the answer is a Yes.
Are you a researcher studying homosexuality and genetics?
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by bawomolo(m): 1:15am On Sep 30, 2009
ChinenyeN:

I guess Nigeria is not a democracy after all.

it's moving towards being a functional democracy.


Okay. Now, in this case, how exactly are the majority oppressing a minority?

by having sodomy laws in the books for an harmless act


Are you a researcher studying homosexuality and genetics?


do i look like one?
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by ChinenyeN(m): 2:25am On Sep 30, 2009
bawomolo:

by having sodomy laws in the books for an harmless act
Did the people vote on that? Or was it just a law, enacted by government?

bawomolo:

do i look like one?
I only asked a simple question. . . . but I guess it's safe for me to presume that you're not one, judging by the above quote.
So, now let me ask, how did you come to your conclusion of "Yes", seeing as to how you're not a researcher, researching and studying the relationship between homosexuality and genetics? I ask because even researchers that are currently researching the relationship between homosexuality and genetics are wary of giving the answer you gave three posts ago. The researchers admit that there is not enough evidence to suggest that there exists a gene, or a collection of genes that code for homosexual behaviors and tendencies. They also do admit though, to there being genetic influence, but not enough evidence to come to a solid conclusion just as you did. So, how did you manage to come to your conclusion?
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by ayo84(m): 4:55am On Sep 30, 2009
WTF, we should not be having this kind of conversation in the first place,Say no to paedophiles, homosexuals and we can take it easy on lesbians-they are so damn hot

Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by amyfiso(f): 7:44pm On Sep 30, 2009
God forbid bad thing abomination in the land of nigga.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by ow11(m): 11:58am On Oct 04, 2009
I read on the previous page how a fellow I can comfortably assume is barely literate and is not ashamed to expose his ignorance to the glory of his stupidity in equating a birth defect to homosexuality.

That fellow deserves

Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by donjon: 5:23pm On Oct 04, 2009
@last posta, take it eazy! E neva reach dat level.

@topic,
can we imagine our son's getting laid by a male?
Say no to homosexuality, but have mercy on d lesbians, like bayo said, they jus too hot
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by omolawuk: 2:44pm On Oct 05, 2009
There is nothing new under the sun. There have always been and will always be male gays (approx. 5 to 8 % of the male population.)

Leave them be, as long as any activity is between 2 or more consenting adults, and in private. Those who make the most noise and are rabidly homophobic are most likely to be closet gays. Most truly heterosexual men have no problem with gays.

Nigeria is simply being backward (or blessed with backward looking lawmakers) in passing a stupid law that gays should be jailed. How many prisons are they planning to build? History tells us that up similar unenforceable laws were in place in many parts of the world up until the 60's, but apart from Sharia countries, they have mostly grown up and faced more important matters.

Note that being gay, green, tall or stupid is not a lifestyle choice, but an incident or accident of birth .

Homosexuality should be decriminalized and people should face important matters that affect their quality of life!
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by bawomolo(m): 3:16pm On Oct 05, 2009
Note that being gay, green, tall or stupid is not a lifestyle choice, but an incident or accident of birth .

how are those accidents?
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by morpheus24: 3:33pm On Oct 05, 2009
ow11:

I read on the previous page how a fellow I can comfortably assume is barely literate and is not ashamed to expose his ignorance to the glory of his stupidity in equating a birth defect to homosexuality.

That fellow deserves

You must be an expert on GENETICS. Please Kindly enlighten this ignorant illiterate brother of your superior intellectual definition on the difference btw a birth defect, a mutation or a possible genetic inherent orientation.

And then after tha address the other examples given as well.

If all you can do is drop stupid notes on here suggesting your obvious lack of understanding for either subject matter then I suggest to[b] SHUT UP![/b]
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Chiddysville(m): 4:24pm On Oct 05, 2009
For all those proponents of the legalisation of homosexuality in naija, all i can say is SORRY. Homosexuality is never part of our culture and we can't condescend that low. it was not and is never an act of development. Come to think of it, there are people that are obsessed with sleeping with animals. Should that be legalised too? Afterall, it doesn't hurt anyone. Since it has turned to two consenting adults doing their sodomic act, i believe all drug users/pushers should start pushing for their inalienable human rights. Afterall, it shouldn't concern anyone what they are doing to themselves. Hypocrites!
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by ChinenyeN(m): 6:33pm On Oct 05, 2009
omo_law-uk:

Note that being gay, green, tall or stupid is not a lifestyle choice, but an incident or accident of birth .
I'll ask you the same thing I asked Bawomolo. How did you manage to come to this conclusion? Are you a geneticists, researching homosexuality?

omo_law-uk:

People should face important matters that affect their quality of life!
Agreed.

bawomolo:

how are those accidents?
Definition of "Accident of Birth"

Chiddysville, agreed.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by idupaul: 6:37pm On Oct 05, 2009
Funny topic, poster is definitely gay
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by omolawuk: 9:29pm On Oct 05, 2009
Those quasi-illiterates and ignoramuses who have exhibited the empty drums make the most noise syndrome should kindly crawl back into the caves from which they emerged!

At no time did I compare birth defects to being gay. I said that homosexuality was not a lifestyle choice, but rather an accident or incident of birth ( like being born in a taxi on the way to hospital.)

I find it amazing that some fellows are happy to display their lack of further education instead of listening to those who are trying to make sense from what may be termed non-sense. There is no need for me to blow my trumpet with regard to my qualifications or expertise in the fields of genetics, neuro-anatomy, anthropology, sociology and psychology, suffice it to say that I have had the privilege to study these and other disciplines to various levels,

The phenomenon of  homosexuality is not fully understood but a genetic component has been identified, as has a minor variation in a specific part of the brain. The  hormonal levels in the mother and the birth order of the boy is also significant. The problem we have is that all the factors so far identified do not "gel" and no one scientific theory answers all the questions. However, it is fairlycertain that nature, and not nurture is the key.

For those of you who say that it is  not part of the African culture to be gay, I regret to inform them that every society on earth has its gay component. Ask anyone who went to boarding school, or ask any Northerner what "dan Daudu" means. Furthermore, gay behaviour has now been documented among a large number of birds and mammals.

There does not seem to be a  link between paedophilia and homosexuality and these should not be lumped together. An active paedophile is a criminal as he consorts with minors who cannot consent.

In the German concentration and extermination camps before and during WWII, yellow stars identified Jews, pink triangles were for gays, red for communists and politicals, black for criminals,  brown or  green for Gypsies (I forget what mental patients wore) but all these disparate groups of people were all hunted down and gassed. What few realize is that blacks who were not suited to slave labour were next on the list

My personal observation. and I stress that this has no scientific basis, is that gays, for whatever reason, are over-represented in various fields of human endeavour, especially the arts, viz music, literature, dance, painting,  but also the sciences especially pure maths. That is how I see it, and I may be wrong but I am  not afraid to say it.

Let me leave you with a saying by the great Confucius:

            He that knows, and knows that he knows, is a teacher, honour him
            He that knows not, and knows that he knows not, is a student, admire him
            He that knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool, avoid him
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by morpheus24: 9:55pm On Oct 05, 2009
^ just wondering what reasonable indications does  neuro-anatomy give about other sexual deviants ie people out the defintion for "sexual norm" which include pedophiles,engaging in sexual activity with animals and the like.

The issue is not in the 'nature' factor of being gay as studies have also drawn me closer to understanding that there is an obvious genetic component which is why some mumu's hear don't understand the comparison of the subject matter to Hemaphrodites or people of similar order.

Legalizing homosexuality is a non issue, no body is bothered what people do in their privacy. homo or hetro. I haven't seen homosexual violence in naija compared to the states where there are more so called human rights.

Marriages btw homosexauls or any other 'sexuals" for that matter is not an inalienable human right.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by yeswecan(m): 10:37pm On Oct 05, 2009
i love Naija, gay practice can never be legalized. In fact there should be a life sentence attached to it. its repugnant, two girls were beaten to death ;caught tyring to get married in a disguised manner. that serves them right
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by blackspade(m): 10:44pm On Oct 05, 2009
@ omo_law-uk

Lies!! Those cooked up numbers used to justify sexual perversion in the west mean shit anywhere else!!
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by blackspade(m): 10:45pm On Oct 05, 2009
@ omo_law-uk

Lies!! Those cooked up numbers used to justify sexual perversion in the west mean shit anywhere else!!
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by posakosa(m): 10:48pm On Oct 05, 2009
Nigerians love to practice the "Kiss and Don't tell Policy" You can't stop homosexuals from having sex. They just won't let you know about it.


I think this is even more dangerous, anyhoo! I rest. I would rather know that a gay is a gay, than have married men practice homosexuality in hiding, Let all gays come out and be who they want to be.

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