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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 1:21am On Jun 13, 2017
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Omoluabi16(m): 1:28am On Jun 13, 2017
ednited:



ofcourse Google have something to say. But for example, it's not going to tell you there's Egypt's and other Arab countries hand in it. Cuz that is true.

There will be a million things Google won't be mentioning
Up till this second, I used to think Ethiopia was in southern africa oh. na wa.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by popizaino(m): 1:51am On Jun 13, 2017
fanficgirl:

What was it like? How much did you spend and where did you stay?
in simple terms it's a more organised lagos with an uninterrupted electricity supply ,less traffic,active government,better security and a whole lot more that I think it's more subjective .my dad got a nine flat apartment at yopougon and a house at adjame so I don't know the prices of their hotels and all other stuffs .haven stayed in lagos,Accra, abuja before I think I will choose to stay in Abidjan over all of them.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ArtanK(m): 2:00am On Jun 13, 2017
fanficgirl:

Whats his story?

He was a legendary Ethiopian emperor from the 19th century and I think Hati13 is in a better position to answer this question.

Take it away walal Hati grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by HughJazz(m): 2:16am On Jun 13, 2017
Lagos Light Rail coming up soon.

It'll be a metro rail .

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 4:56am On Jun 13, 2017
fanficgirl:

Ah okay, I thought it was an actual tree house grin Noa I see the building
Long ago it was a tree, an expensive tree house. You should visit Kenya one ay wink. This place is like heaven, the nature
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 4:59am On Jun 13, 2017
Hati13:

Our land is the most fertile land in east Africa. It's just we heavily rely on rain than irrigation. Let's hope things to change for the better in the near future.
I believe Tanzania got more fertile land then you guys. But your land is waaaaaaaaaaaaay better than ours, almost 75% of our country is dessert/semi dessert. The remaining 25% is where people live, so we have very small land where people can farm
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 5:02am On Jun 13, 2017
fanficgirl:

I just read foreign aid to Ethiopia is being cut doen though
For a non colonised country, Ethiopia are doing great
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:22am On Jun 13, 2017
genieluv:


Holly I never said those old Ibadan n Abeokuta houses have 100% sanitation n paved roads. Some parts have n some parts do not. This is why you cannot classify the whole place as a slum. You get?
I can start posting good pictures of those old Ibadan n abeokuta houses n streets to shut u up, should i?

****Makoko is the only full blown slum in Nigeria, like those in Kenya.

Nairobi is a planned city. Slums take up 6% of the total land while good housing takes the rest. Nigerian cities seem all effd up with slums taking up as high as 90% of the total area. See Majengo slum below that your friends keep talking about and compare it with 'normal' housing in Ibadan and Abeokuta. No difference. The only difference is 90% of Ibadan looks like that while only 6% of Nairobi looks like that.

First photo Majengo
Second photo Ibadan

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:28am On Jun 13, 2017
genieluv:


~~~Here are the places you are calling slums~~
Can you see some well paved roads n levels of sanitation? Can you compare these places with Kibera or Mathare?
Most of the houses here have septic tanks n access to other toilet facilities, drainages, motorable roads, boreholes e.t.c.
This is why they can never be classified as slums smiley

Those are the nicer places in Ibadan and are just as good as the nicer places of Mathare and Kibera.
Mathare

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 5:28am On Jun 13, 2017
Omoluabi16:
Up till this second, I used to think Ethiopia was in southern africa oh. na wa.
How thick can you be?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:47am On Jun 13, 2017
arinzeejikonye:
Nigeria,
Enugu, lagos
He's joining AU so that he doesn't have to let go of Western Sahara. I wonder who lives there undecided

He's the reason Kenya did not get AU chairmanship. Already so influential with only one leg in the organisation.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 6:05am On Jun 13, 2017
fanficgirl:
Didn't see the sarcasm lol.
I hope you got it now.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 6:07am On Jun 13, 2017
Hati13:

Majority respect you. When I ask them, why aren't they fearing Kenyan athletes? They answer, "we only fear God" lol grin. I will say, that stupid God? They answer, "yes, that stupid God" lol. I'm kidding.

What about you guys? I hope you respect us because we were the first in winning many athletics medals. Ababa Bikila was the first black African to win Olympic Gold medal by running in BAREFOOT. Fatuma Roba was the first African woman to win Olympic Gold medal and many others so on on......

Ababa Bikila.
Of course we do! The respect for a rival and very good opponent in sports is the mark of a true man/ woman. In fact i think Abebe Bikila victory in Rome Olympics was very important to Ethiopia in the sense that he won a gold medal on the soil of a country that tried and failed to conquer his own. He stuck up his finger at the Italians and said to them "Hey, see what Ethiopians are made of, we even won the last medal, we don't need you guys !" As for individuals i think the great Haile Gebresilassie, Kenenisa Bekele and the Dibaba sisters have caused kenyan athletics the most heartache. I think both countries know that even if they get a great athlete, its the neighbor that will constantly remind them that they won't have it easy. The best way to train a kenyan athlete is to shout that an ethiopian is chasing him!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:44am On Jun 13, 2017
fanficgirl:

So you go to an all bots university? What's that like? And that's a coincidence you guys are connected
Not university, but school before university.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 6:55am On Jun 13, 2017
Muafrika2:

He's joining AU so that he doesn't have to let go of Western Sahara. I wonder who lives there undecided

He's the reason Kenya did not get AU chairmanship. Already so influential with only one leg in the organisation.

Your last statement.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:06am On Jun 13, 2017
an that what i called beautiful thingy .Thanks PissedYagami

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 7:15am On Jun 13, 2017
So on point.



"The former Central Bank Governor, and Emir of Kano His Royal Highness Muhammadu Sanusi the second , surprised guests present at the Muson Centre for the launching of the book of Sir Olaniwun Ajayi.
Below is his unedited speech.

“Let me start by saying that I am Fulani (laughter). My grandfather was an Emir also fulani my uncle and guardian was also the immediate late Emir of Kano Alhaji Ado Bayero and therefore I represent all that has been talked about this afternoon. Sir Ajayi has written a book. And like all Nigerians of his generation, he has written in the language of his generation.


“My grandfather was a Northerner, I am a Nigerian. The problem with this country is that in 2009, we speak in the language of 1953. Sir Olaniwun can be forgiven for the way he spoke, but I cannot forgive people of my generation speaking in that language.


“Let us go into this issue because there are so many myths that are being bandied around. Before colonialism, there was nothing like Northern Nigeria, Before the Sokoto Jihad, there was nothing like the Sokoto caliphate. The man from Kano regard himself as bakane. The man from Zaria was bazazzage. The man from Katsina was bakatsine. The kingdoms were at war with each other. They were Hausas, they were Muslims, they were killing each other.


“The Yoruba were Ijebu, Owo, Ijesha, Akoko, Egba. When did they become one? When did the North become one? You have the Sokoto Caliphate that brought every person from Adamawa to Sokoto and said it is one kingdom. They now said it was a Muslim North.


“The Colonialists came, put that together and said it is now called the Northern Nigeria. Do you know what happened? Our grand fathers were able to transform to being Northerners. We have not been able to transform to being Nigerians. The fault is ours.


Tell me, how many governors has South West produced after Awolowo that are role models of leadership? How many governors has the East produced like Nnamdi Azikiwe that can be role models of leadership? How Many governors in the Niger Delta are role models of leadership? Tell me. There is no evidence statistically that any part of this country has produced good leaders.
You talk about Babangida and the problems of our economy. Who were the people in charge of the economy during Babangida era? Olu Falae, Kalu Idika Kalu. What state are they from in the North?
“We started the banking reform; the first thing I heard was that in Urobo land, there will be a curse of the ancestors. I said they (ancestors) would not answer. They said why? I said how many factories did Ibru build in Urobo land? So, why will the ancestors of the Urobo people support her?
“We talk ethnicity when it pleases us. It is hypocrisy. You said elections were rigged in 1959, Obasanjo and Maurice Iwu rigged election in 2007. Was it a Southern thing? It was not. “The problem is: everywhere in this country, there is one Hausa, Ibo, Yoruba and Itshekiri man whose concern is how to get his hands on the pile and how much he can steal.


Whether it is in the military or in the civilian government, they sit down, they eat together. In fact, the constitution says there must be a minister from every state.


“So, anybody that is still preaching that the problem of Nigeria is Yoruba or Hausa or Fulani, he does not love Nigeria . The problem with Nigeria is that a group of people from each and every ethnic tribe is very selfish. The poverty that is found in Maiduguri is even worse than any poverty that you find in any part of the South.


The British came for 60 years and Sir Ajayi talked about few numbers of graduates in the North (two as at independence). What he did not say was that there was a documented policy of the British when they came that the Northerner should not be educated. It was documented. It was British colonial policy. I have the document. I have published articles on it. That if you educate the Northerner you will produce progressive Muslim intellectuals of the type we have in Egypt and India. So, do not educate them. It was documented. And you say they love us (North) more than the south.
“I have spent the better part of my life to fight and Dr. (Reuben) Abati knows it. Yes, my grandfather was an Emir. Why was I in the pro-democracy movement fighting for June 12? Is (Moshood) Abiola from Kano ? Why am I a founding director of the Kudirat Initiative for Nigerian Development (KIND)?

“There are good Yoruba people, good Igbo people, good Fulani people, good Nigerians and there are bad people everywhere. That is the truth. “Stop talking about dividing Nigeria because we are not the most populous country in the world. We have all the resources that make it easy to make one united great Nigeria . It is better if we are united than to divide it.


“Every time you talk about division, when you restructure, do you know what will happen? In Delta Area, the people in Warri will say Agbor, you don’t have oil. When was the Niger Delta constructed as a political entity? Ten years ago, the Itshekiris were fighting the Urobos. Isn’t that what was happening? Now they have become Niger Delta because they have found oil. After, it will be, if you do not have oil in your village then you cannot share our resources.


“There is no country in the world where resources are found in everybody’s hamlet. But people have leaders and they said if you have this geography and if we are one state, then we have a responsibility for making sure that the people who belong to this country have a good nature.
“So, why don’t you talk about; we don’t have infrastructure, we don’t have education, we don’t have health. We are still talking about Fulani. Is it the Fulani cattle rearer or is anybody saying there is no poverty among the Fulani?”, he said.


LESSONS FROM THIS MESSAGE

Tribalism is not our problem. Tribalism and religion are artificial problems created by selfish leaders for their own personal interest.


There are only two major tribes in Nigeria. The Elites and the Masses. Once you make lots of money, you belong to the elite tribe. When you are a commoner or suffering, you belong to the tribe of the masses. If you are an elite, and you need more power, or elective position, you sow seeds of tribalism and religion among the masses, so as to sway their emotion for your personal victory. This happens at both the national and state level. Unfortunately, after the election when they have won and joined their “sworn enemies” to drink and party, the gullible masses continue to fight each other.


Even smart people who belong to the masses, sometimes will sow seeds of tribalism and religion among the masses, and then the masses will carry them up until they belong to the elite class. It is a classic strategy used over 3000 years ago in the art of war. A commoner who aspires to sit with the elites, could stir up powerful tribal or religious sentiments, such wave if properly utilized either by shedding blood or destabilizing the elites, carries the commoner to the elite class. But once there, he immediately mingles and makes peace with the elite tribe, and turn his back on the same masses that helped him get there.


Youths are the worst victim of this powerplay, they kill each other, call other tribes unprintable names, do terrible things and sometimes, even lose their life, thinking they are fighting for their right, not knowing that they are fighting for the personal welfare of someone, whose own children are probably safe in America or London.
So youths, don’t hope on the government. If you don’t have a job, create one. There is abject poverty in the south as well as the north, whether Ogoni or Maidugri. At the same time, there is massive wealth in Lagos, Onitsha, Nnewi, Aba, Kano, Abuja, irrespective of zone.


Whatever your hand finds to do, do it well and never remain idle. No job is too low for an idle hand, or else the devil will find work for you. As you become independent, and grow your capacity, do not lose hope in Nigeria. We are the largest economy in Africa and soon the world will fear us. Western powers, don’t like big economies that threaten them, America will do anything to break China, but China is wise to resist that. China has 1.6 billion people, we have only 170 million, and we are talking of breaking.


China has 5 major religions which are Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism, Islam and Christianity. Nigeria has only 2 major religions, Christianity and Islam. Yet we claim that religion is our problem.
America, the strongest economy is comprised of every tribe in the world, since they accept anybody from any part of the world. Yet they are united and extremely patriotic. Nigeria has only 3 major tribes, and we claim tribalism.
Think clearly and deeply, and you will realize that empowering yourself is the best course of action, not fighting each other.

And once the youths are empowered, they can begin to take back their future from the hands of the old and corrupt generation that has been blinding Nigerians with hatred, while looting all her resources. Sani Abacha’s loot is still stashed away in Switzerland, did he use it to develop the north? Those that stole billions under GEJ stashed it away in foreign banks, bought expensive toys, jets and foreign homes, are they using it to develop the south? Now the ones stealing currently, including the “grasscutters”, are looking for Ikoyi apartments, abandoned houses, and pit toilets to hide it, are they using it for the youths in their tribe? NO!

Youths shine your eyes ! Don’t always fall for this tribal, religious sentiments over and over again. Nigeria is bigger than these corrupt elites. They are the problem, not the poor masses.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:15am On Jun 13, 2017
Shytan first you need to be less savage so that people can follow what ya trying to say..That pic you posted up there is not a good start
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:23am On Jun 13, 2017
ArtanK:


He was a legendary Ethiopian emperor from the 19th century and I think Hati13 is in a better position to answer this question.

Take it away walal Hati grin
Roger walal Artank wink

@fanficgirl, Yohannes was Atse(Emperor) from 1872-89. He was the only Tigray Abyssinia emperor. He had stopped and defeated foreign invaders(Egypt, Italy and Mahadist Sudan). The creating of a united Ethiopia was started by Atse Tewodros II(1855-68). Yohannes IV continued it and Menelik II finished it. Yohannes mostly used peaceful means to achieve his goal compared to the two. He had ordered for any Muslim living in Abyssinia to be Christian or denounce their property and many Muslims, especially Wollo Oromo Muslims became Christians. Most of those who didn't want, migrated to other places. He was fearless and mostly lead his army to battle. He died during fight with Mahadist Sudan in 1889. At that battle, Abyssinia was winning initially, but when Yohannes IV was shot, the army moral went down and they started to retreat. Yohannes died the next day. When his body was on journey to Abyssinia by his followers, the Mahadist ambushed them and beheaded the head of his corpse. They took his head to Sudan as a victory trophy and the war between Abyssinia and Mahadist ended.

Emperor Yohannes IV is sometimes criticized by Ethiopians for peaceful letting the British expeditionary force to Ethiopia through north. Those British came to Ethiopia to free the prisoned Europeans who were in prisoned by the then Emperor Tewodros II. The British and the few soldiers of Tewodros fought and British became victorious. Tewodros completed suicide and the British looted vast and historical treasures(his crown for example but it had been returned nowadays) from his stronghold of Meqedela. They looted so much that it needed 15 Elephants and 200 Mules to carry it.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 7:26am On Jun 13, 2017
mtis:
an that what i called beautiful thingy .Thanks PissedYagami
check this one out http://88nairobi.com/
Taller than Montave
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 7:28am On Jun 13, 2017
Nigeria. Saganmu

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:32am On Jun 13, 2017
PissedYagami:

I believe Tanzania got more fertile land then you guys. But your land is waaaaaaaaaaaaay better than ours, almost 75% of our country is dessert/semi dessert. The remaining 25% is where people live, so we have very small land where people can farm
I thought Ethiopia has the most fertile land in E. Africa. Thanks for letting me know it's Tanzania.

Israel is best in agriculture, yet there land is mostly desert. I'm sure that when you guys developed in the near future, you will not have a problem.

Is Kenya self sufficient in feeding herself by her own products or do you guys import?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 7:35am On Jun 13, 2017
Contd.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:41am On Jun 13, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Of course we do! The respect for a rival and very good opponent in sports is the mark of a true man/ woman. In fact i think Abebe Bikila victory in Rome Olympics was very important to Ethiopia in the sense that he won a gold medal on the soil of a country that tried and failed to conquer his own. He stuck up his finger at the Italians and said to them "Hey, see what Ethiopians are made of, we even won the last medal, we don't need you guys !" As for individuals i think the great Haile Gebresilassie, Kenenisa Bekele and the Dibaba sisters have caused kenyan athletics the most heartache. I think both countries know that even if they get a great athlete, its the neighbor that will constantly remind them that they won't have it easy. The best way to train a kenyan athlete is to shout that an ethiopian is chasing him!
When Ababa Bikila won that night, a famous Italian newspaper said the next day, "Mussolini sent millions of soldiers to invade Ethiopia, but Ethiopia only send one imperial bodyguard to conquer Rome".

Kenya has been dominating almost in every category of athletics for the past 4 years. We have shown a decline in those times. I'm confident you will also dominate the 2017 world championship. How is the preparation of Kenyan athletics team right now?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:42am On Jun 13, 2017
mtis:
Shytan first you need to be less savage so that people can follow what ya trying to say..That pic you posted up there is not a good start

grin grin grin grin.......
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 7:46am On Jun 13, 2017
mtis:
Shytan first you need to be less savage so that people can follow what ya trying to say..That pic you posted up there is not a good start

I am only savage to people who deserve it.

Or do you expect to come to a nigerian forum and badmouth nigeria and escape scot free. HELL NO.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 7:51am On Jun 13, 2017
Hati13:

I thought Ethiopia has the most fertile land in E. Africa. Thanks for letting me know it's Tanzania.

Israel is best in agriculture, yet there land is mostly desert. I'm sure that when you guys developed in the near future, you will not have a problem.

Is Kenya self sufficient in feeding herself by her own products or do you guys import?

Tanzania is more of a Southern African country geographically. Kenya is self sufficient to some extent tho we have maize shortage at the moment, I don't know how. We have huge irrigation schemes here tho
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 7:52am On Jun 13, 2017
Shaytun:
Contd.
Now that picture is a real Nigerian, not some pictures some people post here. Like they are ashamed of some Nigerians
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:58am On Jun 13, 2017
PissedYagami:


Tanzania is more of a Southern African country geographically. Kenya is self sufficient to some extent tho we have maize shortage at the moment, I don't know how. We have huge irrigation schemes here tho
Is most of the farming you do through traditional or modern way?

You guys are very tall. There are also very tall people in Ethiopia like the Gambelas and Somalias. I'm sure I'm talking to a 2 meter friend right now. cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 8:00am On Jun 13, 2017
TayserMahiri:
254, the Koroga Festival, some say its a rival to Blankets and Wines, others call it a copy cat tongue

Daaaax My first time seeing Kenyans in group selfies. Cooool i mus say smiley
Seems like u guys don't do group selfies as much as Nigerians? Do u?
Is this festival an annual one? What is the significance n who are the organizers?

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