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Robo

theenchanter:
I just wanna counter some of ur claims, not about which is better or not.
1..... electricity.. Nigeria is poor in electricity but not as poor as saying "there's no light in Nigeria" I stay in Lagos and I enjoy between 18-20hrs supply, some areas maybe poorer than that n some may be better and some are worse. Nobody is contributing to buy transformer in Nigeria, stop ur bogus claims.

2...... access to water supply in Nigeria is about 70% in Nigeria.

3..... Lagos is a city that's close to d Atlantic Ocean, u can expect flooding, only the island part of d city are prone to flood, depending on d depth of d ocean. Even some states in the US are not excluded from floods.

4...... Nigerian student gets grants, not even loans.

68816419:

but i feel some northern states are more developed(Kano,Kaduna) than southern states(Abia.Ebonyi) and even more literate , take Kastina for example,

Nowenuse:


Thank you. This is exactly the reason why a country like Kenya would never be taken seriously.
Everything about Kenya is in Nairobi.

Take away Nairobi from Kenya and Somalia would be better than the outcome.

You see, this is one reason why people think Kenya is better than Nigeria.
Since the Independence of Kenya, the Kenyan government has spent virtually all it's money into Nairobi alone. Why do you think Nairobi has the largest slums in the world?
There are no opportunities elsewhere in Kenya, hence every Kenyan from the nook and crannies of Kenya want to live in Nairobi...

If not for the secessionist agitations of the coastal swahilis of Kenya, the Kenyan govt would have never thought of developing Mombasa (the major port city of Kenya).

Haven't you wondered why Kenya is still an overwhelmingly rural country?

Nigeria on the other hand is a predominantly urban country and the country through the state governments simultaneously manage dozens of cities and urban areas.

Take me for instance, I am from a middle class Nigerian family. My father was also from a middle class family, likewise my grandfather.
We have never really known what poverty is in my lineage for generations now. With all this, neither I nor any of my family members or even extended families have lived in Lagos or had any connection with Lagos. Neither of us live in Abuja either. And there are so many million others like me all over Nigeria.

In a country like Kenya, this is almost non-existent. Almost every middle class kenyan or at least 90% of Kenya's middle class live in Nairobi.

If anyone here doubts me, let all the Kenyans here tell you where they live or earn their living from, it is always Nairobi.

There are over 40 million middle-class Nigerians and majority of us do not live in Lagos or even have any connection with Lagos.

This tells you how uneven development is in Kenya compared to Nigeria. This is why no reasonable person should take Kenya with high esteem or any seriousness when it comes to the kind of development they brag about in their country.

Obi1kenobi, Obaaderemi, TayserMahiri, kikuyu1

sufferNsmiling:


Please stop fooling yourself how did you get 40 million nigerians in middle class when only 11% of the country are in middle class isn't this a shame.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/05/world/africa/nigeria-goes-to-the-mall.html

obaaderemi:
Don't believe him. He is Kenyan and they are known for lies. Below are affluent Nairobi neighborhoods flooded silly after a heavy downpour, due to poor drainage. As you know Nairobi unlike Lagos is nowhere near the ocean. This is Meseum Hill and Kilimani.

mtis:

What is wrong with Nigeria?

1 .Everyone appears to want to reap others off. Everyone suspects others of wanting to reap them off. Consequently, there’s no trust or love in the system. This has resulted in phrases/words like “shine your eyes”, “mugu”, maga”, etc. This lack of trust permeates every level of the society and has resulted in the enshrined cancer aka CORRUPTION. This has been exacerbated by failure of TRUE leadership from the people by the people and for the people. Hmmmm… Hope you got that. If not please read it again cos its a serious point. And perhaps the most important point.


2. The north appears to have a chronic distrust cum hatred for the south; and vice versa. Thats why they don’t work well together. They pretend to work together but its all a false pretense exemplified by the hopelessness of the situation in the country. You just need to hear what they say about each other in private.


3 .There’s a pathetic failure of the people in taking responsibility for themselves, their situation and consequence of their actions/inactions. The static default reaction to things is to blame others, rather than to take personal responsibility for failures. This has also enshrined a lackadaisical attitude to things so you often hear “manage it like that”; even when it's evidently not good enough. There’s also a systemic resolve to cope with things the way they are, in the hope that “God will do it” and things will suddenly get better. That’s another annoying phrase. Its like people just expect manna to fall from heaven.

4 .There’s also a subservient attitude that’s enshrined in Nigerian cultures. This allows so called rulers cum people in power to oppress the masses. This is only possible because the people allow a lot of nonsense to continue.

nwoke37:


guy there may be few(very few) outliers but a look a the general picture would make one cry. The North as a whole is generally poorer than the South, no questions.

I mean where does polio(a disease that's been wiped out in most parts of the world) exist in Nigeria?

BTW Katsina has a very, very low literacy rate...


Even Kaduna and Kano have higher poverty levels than much of Southern Nigeria... even comapred to Abia and Ebonyi
[img]C:\Users\18326\Downloads\png_download50451.png[/img]

Literacy: definition: age 15 and over can read and write
total population: 78%
male: 81.1%
female: 74.9% (2015 est.)

(%)
in 2015
Nigeria adult literacy rate was at level of 59.6 % in 2015, up from 51.1 % in 2008.

The number of literate people in Garissa stands at 8.2 per cent and Nairobi’s is at 96.1 per cent.

Isiolo has 15 per cent, Makueni at 22.41, Wajir at 23.8, Trans Nzoia has 27 and Mandera 25.4.

The national average is 72. 2.

It lists Kiambu and Nyeri among the counties with the highest literacy levels. Kiambu has 95.4 per cent and Nyeri 91.8.


Turkana has 46 per cent

Taita Taveta has a literacy level of 79.1 per cent and Machakos county, which has been considered the economic centre of the Eastern region, has 82.3 per cent.

The report says 83.1 per cent of the populations of Kisumu and Kakamega can read and write,

Mombasa’s literacy at 85.8.

mtis:

What is wrong with Nigeria?

1 .Everyone appears to want to reap others off. Everyone suspects others of wanting to reap them off. Consequently, there’s no trust or love in the system. This has resulted in phrases/words like “shine your eyes”, “mugu”, maga”, etc. This lack of trust permeates every level of the society and has resulted in the enshrined cancer aka CORRUPTION. This has been exacerbated by failure of TRUE leadership from the people by the people and for the people. Hmmmm… Hope you got that. If not please read it again cos its a serious point. And perhaps the most important point.


2. The north appears to have a chronic distrust cum hatred for the south; and vice versa. Thats why they don’t work well together. They pretend to work together but its all a false pretense exemplified by the hopelessness of the situation in the country. You just need to hear what they say about each other in private.


3 .There’s a pathetic failure of the people in taking responsibility for themselves, their situation and consequence of their actions/inactions. The static default reaction to things is to blame others, rather than to take personal responsibility for failures. This has also enshrined a lackadaisical attitude to things so you often hear “manage it like that”; even when it's evidently not good enough. There’s also a systemic resolve to cope with things the way they are, in the hope that “God will do it” and things will suddenly get better. That’s another annoying phrase. Its like people just expect manna to fall from heaven.

4 .There’s also a subservient attitude that’s enshrined in Nigerian cultures. This allows so called rulers cum people in power to oppress the masses. This is only possible because the people allow a lot of nonsense to continue.

kikuyu1:


You're telling on yourselves! We also have our own Somali NE counties bringing down our mean but as always we trump you in literacy.
Its not even close,like all relevant comparisons.




Dangoteland:

https://knoema.com/atlas/Nigeria/topics/Education/Literacy/Adult-literacy-rate

This is all I could find out I really really doubt those low figures,knowing Somalis and having been to Garissa-maybe they mean illiterate in English and many have learned Arabic in their universal madrassas.



https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/10/13/garissa-county-last-in-literacy-levels-at-82_c1651530

sufferNsmiling:


Please stop fooling yourself how did you get 40 million nigerians in middle class when only 11% of the country are in middle class isn't this a shame.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/05/world/africa/nigeria-goes-to-the-mall.html

sufferNsmiling:

Ranking of African Countries By Literacy Rate: Zimbabwe No. 1
Posted On : February 21st, 2015 | Updated On : February 21st, 2015

Below is the ranking of African countries by the literacy rate. This entry includes a definition of literacy and Census Bureau percentages for the total population, males, and females. There are no universal definitions and standards of literacy. Unless otherwise specified, all rates are based on the most common definition – the ability to read and write at a specified age (15 and above). Detailing the standards that individual countries use to assess the ability to read and write is beyond the scope of this article.
Country Literacy Rate
1.
Zimbabwe
90.70
2.
Equatorial Guinea
87.00
3.
South Africa
86.40
4.
Kenya
85.10
5.
Namibia
85.00
6.
Sao Tome and Principe
84.90
7.
Lesotho
84.80
8.
Mauritius
84.40
9.
Congo, Republic of the
83.80
10.
Libya
82.60
11.
Swaziland
81.60
12.
Botswana
81.20
13.
Zambia
80.60
14.
Cape Verde
76.60
15.
Tunisia
74.30
16.
Egypt
71.40
17.
Rwanda
70.40
18.
Algeria
69.90
19.
Tanzania
69.40
20.
Madagascar
68.90
21.
Nigeria
68.00
22.
Cameroon
67.90
23.
Djibouti
67.90
24.
Angola
67.40
25.
Congo, Democratic Republic of the
67.20
26.
Uganda
66.80
27.
Gabon
63.20
28.
Malawi
62.70
29.
Sudan
61.10
30.
Togo
60.90
31.
Burundi
59.30
32.
Eritrea
58.60
33.
Ghana

nwoke37:


guy there may be few(very few) outliers but a look a the general picture would make one cry. The North as a whole is generally poorer than the South, no questions.

I mean where does polio(a disease that's been wiped out in most parts of the world) exist in Nigeria?

BTW Katsina has a very, very low literacy rate...


Even Kaduna and Kano have higher poverty levels than much of Southern Nigeria... even comapred to Abia and Ebonyi
[img]C:\Users\18326\Downloads\png_download50451.png[/img]

sufferNsmiling:
Ranking of African Countries By Literacy Rate: Zimbabwe No. 1
Posted On : February 21st, 2015 | Updated On : February 21st, 2015

Below is the ranking of African countries by the literacy rate. This entry includes a definition of literacy and Census Bureau percentages for the total population, males, and females. There are no universal definitions and standards of literacy. Unless otherwise specified, all rates are based on the most common definition – the ability to read and write at a specified age (15 and above). Detailing the standards that individual countries use to assess the ability to read and write is beyond the scope of this article.
Country Literacy Rate
1.
Zimbabwe
90.70
2.
Equatorial Guinea
87.00
3.
South Africa
86.40
4.
Kenya
85.10
5.
Namibia
85.00
6.
Sao Tome and Principe
84.90
7.
Lesotho
84.80
8.
Mauritius
84.40
9.
Congo, Republic of the
83.80
10.
Libya
82.60
11.
Swaziland
81.60
12.
Botswana
81.20
13.
Zambia
80.60
14.
Cape Verde
76.60
15.
Tunisia
74.30
16.
Egypt
71.40
17.
Rwanda
70.40
18.
Algeria
69.90
19.
Tanzania
69.40
20.
Madagascar
68.90
21.
Nigeria
68.00
22.
Cameroon
67.90
23.
Djibouti
67.90
24.
Angola
67.40
25.
Congo, Democratic Republic of the
67.20
26.
Uganda
66.80
27.
Gabon
63.20
28.
Malawi
62.70
29.
Sudan
61.10
30.
Togo
60.90
31.
Burundi
59.30
32.
Eritrea
58.60
33.
Ghana

http://www.africlandpost.com/ranking-african-countries-literacy-rate-zimbabwe-1/

sufferNsmiling:


Please stop fooling yourself how did you get 40 million nigerians in middle class when only 11% of the country are in middle class isn't this a shame.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/05/world/africa/nigeria-goes-to-the-mall.html

nwoke37:


guy there may be few(very few) outliers but a look a the general picture would make one cry. The North as a whole is generally poorer than the South, no questions.

I mean where does polio(a disease that's been wiped out in most parts of the world) exist in Nigeria?

BTW Katsina has a very, very low literacy rate...


Even Kaduna and Kano have higher poverty levels than much of Southern Nigeria... even comapred to Abia and Ebonyi
[img]C:\Users\18326\Downloads\png_download50451.png[/img]

theenchanter:
don't know where u got ur source but Kenya is at 78% and Ghana is not as worse as that.

kikuyu1:


You're telling on yourselves! We also have our own Somali NE counties bringing down our mean but as always we trump you in literacy.
Its not even close,like all relevant comparisons.




Dangoteland:

https://knoema.com/atlas/Nigeria/topics/Education/Literacy/Adult-literacy-rate

This is all I could find out I really really doubt those low figures,knowing Somalis and having been to Garissa-maybe they mean illiterate in English and many have learned Arabic in their universal madrassas.



https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/10/13/garissa-county-last-in-literacy-levels-at-82_c1651530

theenchanter:
don't know where u got ur source but Kenya is at 78% and Ghana is not as worse as that.

theenchanter:
u should know that the core northern part of Nigeria were against western education before, even in 1999 when free primary n secondary education was mandated across d federation, the core north kicked against it, saying they'll stick to their Islamic studies, hence; their massive illiteracy.

But they're changing that mindset now, most core northern states have the highest education budget by %, They're now investing in education more than the south.

It'll just take time before they can catch up with d south. While southern states are averaging 15%-20% educational budget, the north are doing 20%-30%.

sufferNsmiling:
Ranking of African Countries By Literacy Rate: Zimbabwe No. 1
Posted On : February 21st, 2015 | Updated On : February 21st, 2015

Below is the ranking of African countries by the literacy rate. This entry includes a definition of literacy and Census Bureau percentages for the total population, males, and females. There are no universal definitions and standards of literacy. Unless otherwise specified, all rates are based on the most common definition – the ability to read and write at a specified age (15 and above). Detailing the standards that individual countries use to assess the ability to read and write is beyond the scope of this article.
Country Literacy Rate
1.
Zimbabwe
90.70
2.
Equatorial Guinea
87.00
3.
South Africa
86.40
4.
Kenya
85.10
5.
Namibia
85.00
6.
Sao Tome and Principe
84.90
7.
Lesotho
84.80
8.
Mauritius
84.40
9.
Congo, Republic of the
83.80
10.
Libya
82.60
11.
Swaziland
81.60
12.
Botswana
81.20
13.
Zambia
80.60
14.
Cape Verde
76.60
15.
Tunisia
74.30
16.
Egypt
71.40
17.
Rwanda
70.40
18.
Algeria
69.90
19.
Tanzania
69.40
20.
Madagascar
68.90
21.
Nigeria
68.00
22.
Cameroon
67.90
23.
Djibouti
67.90
24.
Angola
67.40
25.
Congo, Democratic Republic of the
67.20
26.
Uganda
66.80
27.
Gabon
63.20
28.
Malawi
62.70
29.
Sudan
61.10
30.
Togo
60.90
31.
Burundi
59.30
32.
Eritrea
58.60
33.
Ghana

http://www.africlandpost.com/ranking-african-countries-literacy-rate-zimbabwe-1/