Shma:


Don't waste your good brain cells in this world, chanter. Try to exercise it and change something. You don't need whites(everytime) to pump content in your head before you believe.

I believe in all those credible bodies, no data has been updated yet. We have so accurate figures at our fingertips - and calculating per capita won't be a big deal.

FYI, your imaginary GDP is $440B not $480B as I had stated earlier.
Real GDP, $250B, with a per capita of 800USD

what an idiot living in a fantasy world

POKUASI2:
what an idiot living in a fantasy world

Seems like I've pissed of a lot of Nigerians - mostly my good friends.

Debates are about scoring points and subjugating your opponent. Which means that, no matter what their opponents say, debaters have every reason to spin a confrontation as a victory... If you can't come up with a strong point, then don't come cry on my mention.

We good men! Don't be mad
@chanter
@pikuasi2
@ kruptozombie
@baboon aka an empress version of chimpanzees

And all.....

Whatever helps you sleep well at night rafiki

Shma:
Seems like I've pissed of a lot of Nigerians - mostly my good friends.

Debates are about scoring points and subjugating your opponent. Which means that, no matter what their opponents say, debaters have every reason to spin a confrontation as a victory... If you can't come up with a strong point, then don't come cry on my mention.

We good men! Don't be mad
@chanter
@pikuasi2
@ kruptozombie
@baboon aka an empress version of chimpanzees

And all.....

POKUASI2:
what an idiot living in a fantasy world

Is this you or someone stole your phone ?

Pretty close....Kenya may overtake Morroco this year or next year - to become 5th Largest economy in Africa. Next Algeria. Then Nigeria (or formally South Africa)

Shma:


Source ~ World bank.

Years Morroco
2018. $118.1B.
2019. $119.7B.
2020 $114.9B.
2021. $117.04B
Difference. - 1



Year's Kenya
2018 $92.203B
2019 $95.5B
2020 $101.84B
2021 $109.1B
Difference: +17

Oba, here is the answer.

rvp2018:
Pretty close....Kenya may overtake Morroco this year or next year - to become 5th Largest economy in Africa. Next Algeria. Then Nigeria (or formally South Africa)

stop brainwashing ur fellow Kenyans, u won't hear.

rvp2018:
Pretty close....Kenya may overtake Morroco this year or next year - to become 5th Largest economy in Africa. Next Algeria. Then Nigeria (or formally South Africa)

Overtaking Morocco would be great but Nigeria, South Africa, and Egypt have always been amongst the top three economies in Africa for more than 3 decades now even though the others below them have always fluctuated. Beat Morocco first, but it would be a huge leap to beat Algeria in the next five years, because unlike Morocco, the Algerians are heavy on resources especially oil and gas. If Kenyan economy topples that of Algeria in the next 5 years, you would truly earn my respect.

Pokuasi interchange at night

Appisko:
Pokuasi interchange at night

This is awesome.

Algeria is hopeless - a country without any private sector. Kenya will zoom past it. Their economy has tanked from 180B dollars to 140B dollars 0 now 160B. Kenya has a vibrant private and domestic economy. Nigeria is a zoo. The South Africans are busy waiting for us to overtake them in 10yrs. They cannot move forward. They are stuck.

GeneralDae:

Overtaking Morocco would be great but Nigeria, South Africa, and Egypt have always been amongst the top three economies in Africa for more than 3 decades now even though the others below them have always fluctuated. Beat Morocco first, but it would be a huge leap to beat Algeria in the next five years, because unlike Morocco, the Algerians are heavy on resources especially oil and gas. If Kenyan economy topples that of Algeria in the next 5 years, you would truly earn my respect.

rvp2018:
Pretty close...Kenya may overtake Morroco this year or next year - to become the 5th Largest economy in Africa. Next Algeria. Then Nigeria (or formally South Africa)

Overtaking Nigeria? How? I strongly believe we will overtake Morocco and Algeria - not Nigeria's imaginary GDP, unless sh*t happens in the near future - like, we discover resources or we hugely work on fixing the unemployment rate or improve our manufacturing sector.

Back to development:

The research hospital in kabete - westlands premise is underway.

One of the biggest in Africa. I

The dead 88 condominium, according to samboro, is now at 26floors - 18fls to go.

rvp2018:
Algeria is hopeless - a country without any private sector. Kenya will zoom past it. Their economy has tanked from 180B dollars to 140B dollars 0 now 160B. Kenya has a vibrant private and domestic economy. Nigeria is a zoo. The South Africans are busy waiting for us to overtake them in 10yrs. They cannot move forward. They are stuck.

you ain't overtaking us anytime soon

Now this is your problem and the reason why people drag you here on this thread.

You assume other countries will remain stagnant and not improve while you continue to grow which very laughable. Your 'vibrant economy' relies heavly on aid and loans to build basic infrastructure. Your debt to GDP ratio is close to 70%. your trade deficit is a joke. Your population uses less power than Ghana that has at the very least 20 million people less than your country.

The Nigerian 'zoo' controls your IT sector, owns your banks, sponsors your football league and build your roads. You clowns have yet to conquer slums and you're dreaming of surpassing serious countries that have no such problems?

You rafiki are a textbook case of delusions of grandeur.

rvp2018:
Algeria is hopeless - a country without any private sector. Kenya will zoom past it. Their economy has tanked from 180B dollars to 140B dollars 0 now 160B. Kenya has a vibrant private and domestic economy. Nigeria is a zoo. The South Africans are busy waiting for us to overtake them in 10yrs. They cannot move forward. They are stuck.

Our treasury mandrains dont think so. I know you're clutching on that report by some accountant intern at PWC. PWC should concentrate on auditing books- simple maths - not making economic projection. It's simply not their domain. Let them count beans.

As you can see our treasury economist think we will be at 200B dollars (Kshs-dollar staying stable) in 2025/2026.

And RSA treasury projection is you'll be stuck around 350B if not less

jl115:
you ain't overtaking us anytime soon

rvp2018:
Our treasury mandrains dont think so. I know you're clutching on that report by some accountant intern at PWC. PWC should concentrate on auditing books- simple maths - not making economic projection. It's simply not their domain. Let them count beans.

As you can see our treasury economist think we will be at 200B dollars (Kshs-dollar staying stable) in 2025/2026.

And RSA treasury projection is you'll be stuck around 350B if not less

We all know the kshs will weaken in the next 5 years but regardless, You obviously have no idea who PWC is

Fact is you ain't even in the picture by 2050

I am happy to always see African countries making progress.
I am great supporter of late Meles Zenawi and his Ethiopia magic.
I like what Kagame is doing in Rwanda.
Now let's deal with reality - Kenya since 2005 is on steroids.
We have seen GDP rise from 15B to now 110B.
Nothing suggest that growth is about to stop - infact I believe it's about to accelerate into double digit territory.
I see Kenya GDP in next 15yrs doing what it has done - growing by 7 times - to 700-800B
You may think this is crazy - but remember this thread started when Kenya GDP was barely 40B
Kenya is about to nail all the pre-condition for sustainable growth.
This I repeat again is zero mineral sustainable broad based diversified growth that is hard to bring down even in COVID or global recession or name it. Only a civil war in Kenya can slow us down.
As for Ghana, Nigeria and backwater countries depandant on minerals - YOU ARE GOING NOWHERE except where you are.
When commodity prices like now are high - you'll get high - then market collapses - and you go down. It's going to be that way - up and down.
As for South Africa - it's totally stuck if not regressing - Ramaphosa has now officially failed

chrisooblog:
Now this is your problem and the reason why people drag you here on this thread.

You assume other countries will remain stagnant and not improve while you continue to grow which very laughable. Your 'vibrant economy' relies heavly on aid and loans to build basic infrastructure. Your debt to GDP ratio is close to 70%. your trade deficit is a joke. Your population uses less power than Ghana that has at the very least 20 million people less than your country.

The Nigerian 'zoo' controls your IT sector, owns your banks, sponsors your football league and build your roads. You clowns have yet to conquer slums and you're dreaming of surpassing serious countries that have no such problems?

You rafiki are a textbook case of delusions of grandeur.

PWC are bean counters. They cannot make economic projections. They probably dont have a single economist of any repute. OECD, IMF, WB - those can talk.

jl115:

We all know the kshs will weaken in the next 5 years but regardless, You obviously have no idea who PWC is

Fact is you ain't even in the picture by 2050

@ Jil115
@ theenchanter

iMF says our population as of 2022 is 50M. Are they wrong?

https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/KEN

rvp2018:
PWC are bean counters. They cannot make economic projections. They probably dont have a single economist of any repute. OECD, IMF, WB - those can talk.

again.... You obviously don't know PWC

Shma:


@ Jil115
@ theenchanter

iMF says our population as of 2022 is 50M. Are they wrong?

https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/KEN

go back and read what I said

chrisooblog:
Now this is your problem and the reason why people drag you here on this thread.

You assume other countries will remain stagnant and not improve while you continue to grow which very laughable. Your 'vibrant economy' relies heavly on aid and loans to build basic infrastructure. Your debt to GDP ratio is close to 70%. your trade deficit is a joke. Your population uses less power than Ghana that has at the very least 20 million people less than your country.

The Nigerian 'zoo' controls your IT sector, owns your banks, sponsors your football league and build your roads. You clowns have yet to conquer slums and you're dreaming of surpassing serious countries that have no such problems?

You rafiki are a textbook case of delusions of grandeur.

Delusions indeed.

Yeah it worse delusion you can imagine. Nigerian generally suffers from a miasma of grand delusion. We have seen them live live here. They come and buy a toilet or rent a room 10 guys and next time you meet them -they are out saying they own Kenya - they dont even own the room they squeeze 10 guys in Umoja or Roysambu.

Which banking or ICT or name any sector do they control in Kenya If South Africa companies cannot hack kenya - NIGERIA

Some of their banks came and bought small little banks (got duped) - but kenya big banks are all over East and Central Africa. ICT companies are all over Africa.

These people are emerging from military dicatorship or darkness - and this their first decade when they are expanding outside Nigeria.

Kenya companies made their first forays regionally in 90s - dominated Uganda and Tanzania.

Name literally any sector - Kenya companies went abroad long time ago. Precisely in 1990s when kenya economy tanked with IMF/WB/Western sanctions.

Outside South Africa - there is no other country with regional expansion like kenya firms.

gallivant:


Delusions indeed.

jl115:
OK and? Still arguing with yourself? When did I say SA wasn't unequal?.... I said the average black South African earns twice as much as the average Nigerian... This is a fact.... The poverty rate for black SAns is 22% the poverty in Nigeria is 40%....
So who's better of?

Pls check your head this minutes. You are the world most unequal country with less than 3500 of your population owning more than the rest of your populace.it’s simply mean your middle class and average SAns wealth is a charade-one that exist in theory but not in reality. You zoo is a poor broken joke,this illusory wealth exist in the realms of your imaginations and tgat is pure hardcore facts.

They are unequal but they are middle class. Those two are not mutually exclusive. Dont delude yourself. South African primary teacher drives a brand new VW polo car. Nigeria - the whole 210M people - only 32 can manage to buy brand new VW polo in a year. South African do not buy used cars...they buy almost half a million new cars.

Nigerians are daily emigrating to South Africa because it's middle class country. They have serious racial inequality - unemployment - but it still a decent - country by African standards.

Or in few words Nigeria will get to South Africa current level in 2070 if they work really hard. Kenya maybe 2035.

South Africa problem is to get to developed world standard - Europe/South Asian/North American standards - where poverty/unemployment/etc are rare. They are likely to stay in the middle class rut unless ANC decides to take them Zim way to find their base...and re-start again.

samorobo:


Pls check your head this minutes. You are the world most unequal country with less than 3500 of your population owning more than the rest of your populace.it’s simply mean your middle class and average SAns wealth is a charade-one that exist in theory but not in reality. You zoo is a poor broken joke,this illusory wealth exist in the realms of your imaginations and tgat is pure hardcore facts.

Shma:


You really crave to debate me, huh? You've quoted me 1000000 as if though you've been promised an award! I only debate with my peers, okay? Dimwits like you, I educate.

Concern! Do you have glaucoma? Have you seen grey asphalt in the pic you've dropped? And what is your point in posting a section of South B when I intended to show you the greening project? Or you're just jealous? What reason triggered your response in that pic? Are you heated up? If so, then go f*ck your neighbor's cow.

Pls save your energy and stop flattering yourself.So asphalts will make the road more complex or what? With the way y’all have been shouting about that expressway I was expecting that by completion it will look like those complex artery road network in china and the US,but nah it’s just a single curved elevated concrete that looks like a COMA, yes just a single coma like seen in the rest of Africa.so much for all that noise.

jl115:
@tyser

Your boys @Shma @rvp20182 @gallivant all agreed that Nigeria has a bigger GDP than SA and Kenya mostly due to there population size.... Are you going to say they are wrong as well

Mumu

jl115:
@tyser

Your boys @Shma @rvp20182 @gallivant all agreed that Nigeria has a bigger GDP than SA and Kenya mostly due to there population size.... Are you going to say they are wrong as well

Desperate Mugu.

Shma:
Seems like I've pissed of a lot of Nigerians - mostly my good friends.

Debates are about scoring points and subjugating your opponent. Which means that, no matter what their opponents say, debaters have every reason to spin a confrontation as a victory... If you can't come up with a strong point, then don't come cry on my mention.

We good men! Don't be mad
@chanter
@pikuasi2
@ kruptozombie
@baboon aka an empress version of chimpanzees

And all.....

Chanter,oba and the likes,can you see the idiotic cheap troll you’ve been wasting your time and energy on.

rvp2018:
They are unequal but they are middle class. Those two are not mutually exclusive. Dont delude yourself. South African primary teacher drives a brand new VW polo car. Nigeria - the whole 210M people - only 32 can manage to buy brand new VW polo in a year. South African do not buy used cars...they buy almost half a million new cars.

Nigerians are daily emigrating to South Africa because it's middle class country. They have serious racial inequality - unemployment - but it still a decent - country by African standards.

Or in few words Nigeria will get to South Africa current level in 2070 if they work really hard. Kenya maybe 2035.

South Africa problem is to get to developed world standard - Europe/South Asian/North American standards - where poverty/unemployment/etc are rare. They are likely to stay in the middle class rut unless ANC decides to take them Zim way to find their base...and re-start again.

with your boisterous 'chest beating'
You'll only make Kenya a laughing stock when all your fantasies fail to materialize,
We hardly buy VW in Nigeria, it's like saying only 32 INNOSON VEHIVLES where sold in Kenyan, when in actual fact most Kenyans don't buy IVM.

There's nothing Kenya is doing that hasn't been done in other parts of Africa.

You seem to hallucinate alot, and it's annoying really.

You've dragged everyone down to posting ordinary roads and bridges,
When we should be posting industries.

I've never seen a Kenyan post pictures of their manufacturing industries, all we see are skyscrapers.
Question is, those occupying those buildings where do they work.?
Or are they All engineers and tea farmers.