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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:32am On Sep 04, 2016
Justcash:


We are talking of now. How come we are not maximizing our earning from petroleum? If we were generating income at an optimal level, would we have fallen into a recession? Of FDI was still high and the banks still seemed healthy, would investors pulls out trillions overnight?

We are talking if now. How did it get so bad? If care is not taken, we are heading for a depression.

How can you maximise? There is little to no income when you calculate the last administration borrowing when Production and sales were high.

They were depleting our reserves when sales were high.

The question is why were we borrowing and depleting our reserves?

That is a sign of recession. Now think of it when sales were high. The high sales masked the recession we were in.

The Policies you criticise like TSA, banning products and the rest was to slow down the depletion of our reserves if not we would have been in hell by now.

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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by lanrex101: 10:33am On Sep 04, 2016
Abeymills:
The problem we have 2day is not apc but bubuhari himself his so myopic clueles dullard wicked miser selfish unguided talks anyhow inshot dat man brain dey
oil
Yo ba furo re. . . grin
Abeymills:
The problem we have 2day is not apc but bubuhari himself his so myopic clueles dullard wicked miser selfish unguided talks anyhow inshot dat man brain dey
oil
Yo ba furo re. . .
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by eph12(m): 10:34am On Sep 04, 2016
Kay17:


Thankfully TSA isn't a policy but how can a quick and sudden implementation of a good thing be bad?

Be realistic the fight with ND insurgents would only be suspended. Negotiating with insurgents borrows them a clout of legitimacy.
Just like selling off your old car and getting a new one immediately is good right? It's not as simple as that. No matter how good it can be other things need to be considered.
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by fxkay1: 10:35am On Sep 04, 2016
Unfortunately I agree with u....

Yes the GEJ government made many wasteful decisions.....

But PMB should stop giving excuses of the past government and then fix the problem
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by eph12(m): 10:37am On Sep 04, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


How can you maximise? There is little to no income when you calculate the last administration borrowing when Production and sales were high.

They were depleting our reserves when sales were high.

The question is why were we borrowing and depleting our reserves?

That is a sign of recession. Now think of it when sales were high. The high sales masked the recession we were in.

The Policies you criticise like TSA, banning products and the rest was to slow down the depletion of our reserves if not we would have been in hell by now.
About banning products, what incentives is this government giving to those that are able to produce them here? Nothing?

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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:38am On Sep 04, 2016
Justcash:


Yes, true. That government wasted it. Corruption and the pressure from the ROTIMI AMAECHI led governors forum led to the squandering of the Excess Crude Account (ECA). However, that is in the past. We are talking about now. Nigeria would have avoided a recession still if those blunders did not compound the fall in oil prices, especially the policy of violence in the Niger Delta region.

That is another mistake you guys make. You guys misunderstand the burden.

Hon. Amaechi, Hon. Fashola and co. took the government to court because they were already depleting our ECA.

The FG did not wait for a judgment (Obviously scared of the massive corruption exposure to come) and chose to share to the governors.

The 52% of the Federal government, none of you talk of that. You only talk of the 48% of the governors share.

The Federal Government spent what is left of the ECA after the governors. 52%.

Things were really bad as at 2012. Not President Buhari's policies.

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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by FirstNg1: 10:38am On Sep 04, 2016
ba7man:
From $120/100 per barrel at 2. 2 million bpd production rate.......... down to $28/36 per barrel at 1. 4 million bpd production rate....... in a country that crude oil makes up 90% of its income.

....... And some people think things should remain the same??

Jokers, they have no idea what the nation is going through.


QUESTION: And why did production rate reduce from 2.2 million bpd to 1.4 bpd?

ANSWER: 1) Bhoohari's unguarded utterances -re 97%/5%.
2) His removal of capital projects from the Niger Delta
3) Appointments skewed in favour of the North - who already get up to 60-70% share of all of Nigeria's earnings; while contributing less than 5%, thereby shoving the fact that the North has taken Southerners captive in their faces!
4) Extra-judicial killings of peaceful protesters in the S/E
5) Using threats and intimidation as an instrument of state.
6) Acting and speaking like a conqueror of NON Hausa/Fulani, instead of the elected president of Nigeria
7) Acting like a medieval mornach instead of a mordern president and a paid enployee of the Nigerian people!
coolHIS LACK OF CAPACITY TO FORSEE THE NATURAL CONSEQUENCE OF HIS WORDS AN ACTIONS
9)HIS LACK OF CAPACITY TO KNOW OR UNDERSTAND MORDERN GOVERNANCE.
10) ETC, ETC, ETC
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by plendil: 10:40am On Sep 04, 2016
Justcash:

The effect of the drop in oil price was compounded by the policies of Buhari's administration, which led to a recession. Saudi Arabia is not in a recession.
Secondly, was the government not aware that oil prices was down before deciding to sweep the huge financial Capet off the feet of Nigerian banks? Didn't they know that it would worsen the already bad situation. Government aid banks e.g. Study the impact of US government's bail out of banks and how it helped the US to reemerge. This government should have taken context into consideration. They should have taken a gradual implementation approach. They would have reached the same goal without causing much damage.
The drop in oil prices did not throw Nigeria into a recession. Government's self-destructive policies like the approach in Niger-Delta, unguarded utterances and forex policy that affected local production caused our recession. Oil has risen to $40++, we would have been better than we were 2 years ago when it dropped to $20.

S/Arabia may not be in a recession, but things are far from rosy for them. Some reports even quote the oil sector as being in 'technical recession'. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/3/cdb02eee-4915-11e6-8d68-72e9211e86ab.html#axzz4JHEi1sZO

On TSA: Seriously?? How exactly did the sudden implementation lead to recession? Just how many banks are complaining of lack of cash?

You claim "The drop in oil prices did not throw Nigeria into a recession". In all honestly and with due respect, I take it your being mischievous here.

Just for the records, though i still think PMB was a far better choice than his predecessor, the former has clearly made a lot of wrong moves, which I've roundly condemned him for. However, to lay all the blame of the current situation at his feet is not fair.

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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by Yyeske(m): 10:41am On Sep 04, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


How can we be doing well then?

Selling over a hundred dollars a barrel, and still depleting our reserves and increasing our debt.


Look at it again, does that look like doing well to you? That was calamity and destruction waiting to happen.

Emir Sanusi cried this repeatedly within 2012-2013.
Allow those wailers to wail, even Soludo complained about the state of the economy early last year but the wailers called him all sorts of names because he was exposing NOI and their hero GEJ for mismanagement. They encourage Niger Delta Avengers to bomb oil and gas installations but will be the first to blame the government of poor electricity supply, I'm still surprised none of them wailers had blamed PMB for the fall in oil price.

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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:42am On Sep 04, 2016
eph12:

About banning products, what incentives is this government giving to those that are able to produce them here? Nothing?

It takes capital to fix things. For now, we have no capital. Before any step is taking, we must calculate the resulting effects.

We are about to borrow more and these banned items will get tackled.

I just want us to know how we got here. This will let us know where to fix. Production of the banned Items must be a priority. This will create Small businesses that will create employment.

Power must be tackled. These businesses can not grow without power.

Cost of governance must reduce.

These problems were there before this government but this government must start the road back to a health economy.

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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:45am On Sep 04, 2016
plendil:


S/Arabia may not be in a recession, but things are far from rosy for them. Some reports even quote the oil sector as being in 'technical recession'. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/3/cdb02eee-4915-11e6-8d68-72e9211e86ab.html#axzz4JHEi1sZO

On TSA: Seriously?? How exactly did the sudden implementation lead to recession? Just how many banks are complaining of lack of cash?

You claim "The drop in oil prices did not throw Nigeria into a recession". In all honestly and with due respect, I take it your being mischievous here.

Just for the records, though i still think PMB was a far better choice than his predecessor, the former has clearly made a lot of wrong moves, which I've roundly condemned him for. However, to lay all the blame of the current situation at his feet is not fair.


That Technical Recession Term is brilliant. Nice and educative post.
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by plendil: 10:45am On Sep 04, 2016
eph12:

About banning products, what incentives is this government giving to those that are able to produce them here? Nothing?

So he should have allowed the importation of toothpick, vegetable oil, chicken, etc to totally deplete our dollar reserves?

Remove sentiments and critically check the list, we are more than capable of producing more 90% of the items locally.

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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by nady94: 10:46am On Sep 04, 2016
Abeymills:
The problem we have 2day is not apc but bubuhari himself his so myopic clueles dullard wicked miser selfish unguided talks anyhow inshot dat man brain dey leak oil
Calm bro he isn't good yes but remember we all (majority) voted for him so therefore I believe we should all brace ourselves and pray for him to make better decisions in the future.
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by Billygee2u: 10:49am On Sep 04, 2016
Justcash:
1) Sudden Implementation of Treasury Single Account (TSA)- This policy threw the banking and financial sector into turmoil as huge sums were swept out of banks and dormantly stashed into a preferred safe.

2) Tightening of Foreign Exchange Transactions- This policy made it difficult to make foreign exchange, and threw thriving businesses into turmoil which led to massive sacking of workers and manufacturing slowdown.

3) Unguarded Utterances During Foreign Trips- The president made several unguarded utterances that gave the impression that Nigeria was headed for the rocks. This made foreign investors hesitant about coming into Nigeria, and encouraged those that were already in Nigeria to speculate and pull out funds.

4) Halting of Important Projects in the Niger Delta- Buhari moved to remove majority of the projects that were created to provide tangible benefits to Niger-Deltans. For example, the Maritime University and Pipeline protection projects. Though, some of these projects were condemned by Nigerians, they kept the Niger-Delta at peace and allowed for the maximization of the benefits from petroleum exports.

5) Buhari's Northern Developmental Focus in Nigeria- The developmental aim of the president is very much skewed towards Northern Nigeria than every other part. So, he is more like kick starting a new economic focus, while dumping existing economic strengths. For example, he is devoting billions of dollars to search for petroleum in the North when Nigeria does not have functional refineries to ensure adequate availability of petroleum products that are already being produced in the South.

6) Elimination of All the Policies Made by PDP- it is on record that even though PDP led governments were corrupt, they made some major strides in diversifying Nigeria's economy. For example, Agricultural export came to life under PDP. Buhari has focused on bedeviling and antagonizing every single policy made by the PDP. In the process, he has thrown out good policies and progress that were made in the past. He is almost starting afresh, and this has rebooted Nigeria and thrown us years backwards.

7) Preference for Violence over Dialogue- Buhari prefers to use military force to quell civil strife. This approach ignites more protests and civil disobedience. An economy cannot experience progress in violent conditions. Even Lagos and Ogun axis has experienced an open show of military bombardment, which scares a heck out of investors. The same is true about the production shut ins in the Niger Delta region. Some of these issues can be solved with dialogue and with police actions than full scale military assaults.

Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by ikwubaba: 10:51am On Sep 04, 2016
Justcash:


You, definitely, are ignoring the antecedents to the 60% loss. Would it have been a 60% loss if Niger Delta was peaceful and there was no NDA? Would it have been a 60% loss if a more gradual approach was used to implement the TSA?

It would maybe not be 60% if ND was peaceful. But how do you ensure that. Pay the NDA guys and also pay the other emerging group? for pipeline contacts which they still bunker anyway?

You are not seeing the long term effect of the message that criminality pays.

Have you seen the full list of NDA demands?

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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:52am On Sep 04, 2016
It is time we stop seeing this government as President Buhari's government. The elections ended about two years ago.

When the elections come, we can make partisan statements and judgment.

For now, all of us in this country are in this mess. Even the rich ones are not insulated from the resulting crimes from a bad economy. Yahoo Boys are not sleeping. Armed robberies and kidnapping increased.

We need to contribute to the growth of this government, one way or the other. Sabotaging and supporting sabotage will cause calamity for everyone.

If President Buhari fails, we fail.

If he wins, we win.

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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by freshdude99(m): 10:53am On Sep 04, 2016
nwanna89:
Number 3 is the foundation of all our problems now. If a president makes unguarded statements about the state of the country's economy, it puts current and potential investors in fear and uncertainty. This single act led to so many issues, primarily the hoarding of dollars and ultimately the huge devaluation of the naira.

Buhari and his cabinet thought they were smearing GEJs name by making those statements, but were actually screwing up the economy in the process. No president comes out to say his country is broke and citizens should brace up for hard times. Yes, the economy was not perfect under GEJ, but they knew to be careful about their utterances in order to give confidence to investors and citizens about the state of things.

Now investors are refusing to come to nigeria due the uncertainty. Curremt investors are packing out. Those in possession of dollars are refusing to sell it. I remember in the past, one could go to mallam to buy dollars. Now u cannot buy, because they too are hoarding.

Notice now, they have realized their mistake and stopped talking about how bad the economy is. They are now trying to paint a better picture of the economy to give some confidence and faith to investors. But it is too late!

FGs unguarded comments about the state of the economy is the only reason nigeria is in the shithole it is now
Bros eh, God bless u so much for this observation

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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by Kay17: 10:53am On Sep 04, 2016
eph12:

Just like selling off your old car and getting a new one immediately is good right? It's not as simple as that. No matter how good it can be other things need to be considered.

Besides it was illegal in the first place for government ministries and agencies to lodge deposits in a bank. So you can't justify a criminal act by the excuse of necessity

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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by Billygee2u: 10:55am On Sep 04, 2016
naijaking1:
@poster,
Well articulated, but don't forget Buhari's evil revengeful Fulani spirit that doesn't produce jobs or improve the economy
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by nady94: 10:55am On Sep 04, 2016
ba7man:
From $120/100 per barrel at 2. 2 million bpd production rate.......... down to $28/36 per barrel at 1. 4 million bpd production rate....... in a country that crude oil makes up 90% of its income.

....... And some people think things should remain the same??

Jokers, they have no idea what the nation is going through.
He promised us magic remember saying every unemployed youth shall get #5000 monthly ( though he denied it lately ) and said a dollar will be equal to a naira right ? But I think it's evident now that he never had a plan for Nigeria but empty promises. The dependency on oil was obviously going to be Nigeria's downfall said so many experts in time past. Nigerians had been crying for diversification of the economy which we all thought APC will bring but li and behold this is where we are. I still believe in Nigeria though becos I believe in every challenge comes an infinite opportunities to make exploit. God bless Nigeria and God bless us all.
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by Mekzyzeus(m): 10:55am On Sep 04, 2016
ikarm17:


The 5% has spoken with bitter hatred as usual.

And the 95% still gnashes their teeth and wail in sorrow and regrets, while still refuting the glaring truth!
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by 007Gbenga: 10:58am On Sep 04, 2016
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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by FirstNg1: 10:59am On Sep 04, 2016
ba7man:
From $120/100 per barrel at 2. 2 million bpd production rate.......... down to $28/36 per barrel at 1. 4 million bpd production rate....... in a country that crude oil makes up 90% of its income.

....... And some people think things should remain the same??

Jokers, they have no idea what the nation is going through.


In addition, crude oil was already selling at $45 per barrel or thereabouts - with every indication of the price fallingfurther, during the electioneering campaign for the 2015 elections. So AaPC and Bhoohari already knew or aught to have known that; and not handle the governance of Nigeria the way they have done so far!

The reality that Nigerians have to face is that we have a government who campaigned and won the 2015 elections base entirely,100% on lies, propaganda, image-laundering, pulling others down and an unbridled greed for power - purely for their own selfish interests. And they still can't stop lying!

Until and unless they stop the lies and propaganda, they cannot achieve anything - because light and darkness do not mix; pogress and deception cannot also mix!
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by excelAGR42: 11:01am On Sep 04, 2016
@OP thank you very much for this insightful write up. Many people don't know the power behind number 3 that you succinctly pointed out.

The Bible says that "the power of life and death is in the tongue" therefore an unguarded statement can cause more harmful ripple effect than any other thing in life.

I remember the great effort of the late Dora Akunyili at remodeling and selling the Nigerian brand both home and away. She must be rolling in her grave to hear the president brand hard working Nigerians as "fantastically corrupt".

As a result of that even Kenyans and other African nations no no longer respect Nigerians because of the bad image that we have been portrayed by our own government.
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by berrystunn(m): 11:02am On Sep 04, 2016
ba7man:
From $120/100 per barrel at 2. 2 million bpd production rate.......... down to $28/36 per barrel at 1. 4 million bpd production rate....... in a country that crude oil makes up 90% of its income.

....... And some people think things should remain the same??

Jokers, they have no idea what the nation is going through.

With 28/36 per barrel, buhari policy did not help matters

Halting of Important Projects in the Niger Delta- Buhari moved to remove majority of the projects that were created to provide tangible benefits to Niger-Deltans. For example, the Maritime University and Pipeline protection projects. Though, some of these projects were condemned by Nigerians, they kept the Niger-Delta at peace and allowed for the maximization of the benefits from petroleum exports..



Making it a war zone.
Can you explain that..

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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by qleap2all(m): 11:06am On Sep 04, 2016
Justcash:
1) Sudden Implementation of Treasury Single Account (TSA)- This policy threw the banking and financial sector into turmoil as huge sums were swept out of banks and dormantly stashed into a preferred safe.

2) Tightening of Foreign Exchange Transactions- This policy made it difficult to make foreign exchange, and threw thriving businesses into turmoil which led to massive sacking of workers and manufacturing slowdown.

3) Unguarded Utterances During Foreign Trips- The president made several unguarded utterances that gave the impression that Nigeria was headed for the rocks. This made foreign investors hesitant about coming into Nigeria, and encouraged those that were already in Nigeria to speculate and pull out funds.

4) Halting of Important Projects in the Niger Delta- Buhari moved to remove majority of the projects that were created to provide tangible benefits to Niger-Deltans. For example, the Maritime University and Pipeline protection projects. Though, some of these projects were condemned by Nigerians, they kept the Niger-Delta at peace and allowed for the maximization of the benefits from petroleum exports.

5) Buhari's Northern Developmental Focus in Nigeria- The developmental aim of the president is very much skewed towards Northern Nigeria than every other part. So, he is more like kick starting a new economic focus, while dumping existing economic strengths. For example, he is devoting billions of dollars to search for petroleum in the North when Nigeria does not have functional refineries to ensure adequate availability of petroleum products that are already being produced in the South.

6) Elimination of All the Policies Made by PDP- it is on record that even though PDP led governments were corrupt, they made some major strides in diversifying Nigeria's economy. For example, Agricultural export came to life under PDP. Buhari has focused on bedeviling and antagonizing every single policy made by the PDP. In the process, he has thrown out good policies and progress that were made in the past. He is almost starting afresh, and this has rebooted Nigeria and thrown us years backwards.

7) Preference for Violence over Dialogue- Buhari prefers to use military force to quell civil strife. This approach ignites more protests and civil disobedience. An economy cannot experience progress in violent conditions. Even Lagos and Ogun axis has experienced an open show of military bombardment, which scares a heck out of investors. The same is true about the production shut ins in the Niger Delta region. Some of these issues can be solved with dialogue and with police actions than full scale military assaults.

Oh you forgot to mention that stop the subsidy fraud and also allows Naira devaluation after much pressure from Nigerians despite his earlier stance
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by Nobody: 11:06am On Sep 04, 2016
ikarm17:
And oh yea, winning.

I want to see how many likes GEJ zombies will give me for this post.

Have y'all forgotten that almost all oil producing countries are undergoing the same thing Nigeria is going through?

Or for the fact that ND militants and their slavish supporters keeps bombing oil pipelines.

Who gave you phone
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by Djpaparazy(m): 11:09am On Sep 04, 2016
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Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by Rapmoney(m): 11:11am On Sep 04, 2016
progress69:
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Useless sentimental tribalistic bull crap, full of lies and deceit

How do one eat is cake and expect to have it. That's the best way to describe what exactly is going on now. Not the thrash u wrote
How do one eat "is" cake? Learn how to spell correctly before you engage yourself in issues you know absolutely NOTHING about!!!
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by Pylony(m): 11:12am On Sep 04, 2016
Wow! Its the same Nigerians that called former President Good Luck clueless are the same people crying foul over what they voted for in 2015. grin
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by Righthandson(m): 11:13am On Sep 04, 2016
GGod help our leaders
Re: Seven Of Buhari's Actions That Led Nigeria Into Recession by Miles300: 11:14am On Sep 04, 2016
Justcash:


No, I don't think he ordered it. I know that his faulty policies led to the rise in prices, and that he has no clue about how to reduce the prices and improve the value of the Naira. If he had, he would have been working towards creating incentives to attract foreign direct investments i.e. Foreign manufacturers, while subsidizing local manufacturing as a means of making importation less attractive, than simply using executive powers to stall importation. He should have done everything to prevent the outflow of foreign investors to begin with.
how can he attract foreign investment with fx restriction for Christ sakes , who will want to come and invest here when he can't have acess to fx

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