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On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by kasiem(m): 7:21am On Sep 06, 2016
What makes you an 'Igbo' or 'Yoruba' is not the tag. It goes beyond that. At first, we are all humans, the distinguishing factor is rooted in our culture and diversity. It's your culture that lays credence to whatever tag you choose to place on yourself. One can't be claiming an Igbo, when his way of life (culture) finds compatibility more with the western ways. It's contradictory. It could be captured as identity crisis. I may not want to lose my sense of reality by too much subscribing to the idealism of feminism.
For the fact, proper appreciation of Igbo system will expose you to the truth that the system favours no gender more than the other; the igbo system that barred women from eating the gizzard also barred the man from eating the waist of the cock. This shows that everyone is favoured in a particular area. But, it's quite unfortunate that some ladies in their overbearing nature would want the world to view it from the angle where they're not much favoured, the angle where they're barred from eating the gizzard. I wouldn't know whether to term it 'mischief' at best. The igbo woman gets the favour of being honoured in two places, the maiden and matrimonial home during burials. In my side of igbo land, Ezinfite, we have a culture called "ibu-ozu nwa ada" which can be loosely translated in English as "carrying the daughters corpse". This is one of the rites performed for a lady by her kinsmen during her funeral, whereby, the men will go to her matrimonial place singing dirges to tell the people that they've come to carry their daughter. Upon going back, they will be given one cow and two goats (male and female). Back at their place, they will organise burial for the woman.
This shows the level of honour which a lady gets in igbo system, even at death. Hardly would the decisions of the "nwa-adas" (married daughters) be argued on controversial issues. We are always meant to believe that the system is all out to suppress one gender for another, especially, when one wants to enjoy its own side of the favour.
It's igbo culture that children should be buried in their father's place. Children cannot be buried anywhere because we respect corpse. We don't have the culture of burying people in cemeteries and any place buried u outside the father's place is more like a person buried in the cemetery.
It's contradictory to support the recent act of Stella Odua and his people, while you still claim to be igbo. It's those cultures which said that children should be buried in their father's place that made us igbos. If we drop those cultures, then we've dropped the igbo in us all. We must all stand to condemn this act, just as we condemn every act aimed at suppressing the rights of igbo women.

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Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by cckris: 7:53am On Sep 06, 2016
kasiem:
Igbo system will expose you to the truth that the system favours no gender more than the other; the igbo system that barred women from eating the gizzard also barred the man from eating the waist of the rooster
Epic!

Achebe, the oracle, couldn't have said it better
Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by cckris: 7:59am On Sep 06, 2016
Find out also what Achebe DEFINED the name Nneka.
Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by Boleyndynasty2(f): 8:20am On Sep 06, 2016
She did wrong and I wonder why the men in her family didn't say anything or try to stop her from doing what she did. It's unheard of
Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by trapQ: 9:09am On Sep 06, 2016
That's why Africa and Nigeria in particular is still in the 13th century.

Is it your dead body?? Person wey get dead body don bury am, wetin concern you? Was his father a part of his life? Did his father even know what life was like for the boy growing up? Did his father care about him?
Allow that boy to rest in his grave. Even his brother attested to the fact that his father didn't care and was even asking for a refund of his dowry (or something like that) at the burial.

You're here saying its un-igbo, is it not also un-igbo to go to church? Didn't the white man introduce Christianity to us? Don't go to church then, or use phones or the internet cuz they're all un-igbo.

#DoubleWahalaForDeadBody.

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Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by kasiem(m): 9:12am On Sep 06, 2016
Lalasticlala help me put this up. We need to educate some minds
Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by kasiem(m): 9:16am On Sep 06, 2016
trapQ:
That's why Africa and Nigeria in particular is still in the 13th century.

Is it your dead body?? Person wey get dead body don bury am, wetin concern you? Was his father a part of his life? Did his father even know what life was like for the boy growing up? Did his father care about him?
Allow that boy to rest in his grave.

You're here saying its un-igbo, is it not also un-igbo to go to church? Didn't the white man introduce Christianity to us? Don't go to church then, or use phones or the internet cuz they're all un-igbo.

#DoubleWahalaForDeadBody.
when we come to cultural dynamism we talk about some of these issues which you raised.
Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by trapQ: 9:26am On Sep 06, 2016
Personally, I think the aspects of our tradition that should be preserved are our attires, delicacies, language and a few others; the rest can go to blazes.

For the most part, the tradition isn't fair. Where I come from a man can cheat but when a woman does so, her head swells and she may even die if her crime goes unconfessed. Now what sort of barbaric tradition is that?

Thank God some wealthy people are finally breaking free from the shackles of tradition.


kasiem:
when we come to cultural dynamism we talk about some of these issues which you raised.

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Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by Nobody: 9:37am On Sep 06, 2016
OP, bear in mind that when a culture is static, it dies....think Latin, its dead.

Culture should be flux...this is 2016.

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Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by Nobody: 9:41am On Sep 06, 2016
trapQ:
Personally, I think the aspects of our tradition that should be preserved are our attires, delicacies, language and a few others; the rest can go to blazes.

For the most part, the tradition isn't fair. Where I come from a man can cheat but when a woman does so, her head swells and she may even die if her crime goes unconfessed. Now what sort of barbaric tradition is that?

Thank God some wealthy people are finally breaking free from the shackles of tradition.



Serious blazes......

Its this same adherence to outdated behaviours that kept we, the Africans, seriously lagging behind in every human indices of development. We tenaciously stick to archaic cultures and refuse to adopt other aspects of other people's culture that had improved their system.

Seriously, i wish our generation, would drop everythang stupidly African and embrace the sciento-technic culture that peoples of Japan and south Korea did.

Have we ever wondered why african did not develop like every other continent colonized by europeans? Have we?
Apart from corruption ( which also stems from our culture of grabbing public money fro extended family) , what else do u think is dragging us down? Is it the genetics of the Negro race? nah! We know what it is

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Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by cckris: 9:45am On Sep 06, 2016
kasiem:
when we come to cultural dynamism we talk about some of these issues which you raised.
If culture is DYNAMIC, then its not STATIC. Correct?
Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by Pidggin(f): 9:46am On Sep 06, 2016
People who claim Christian still obey dead ancestral laws, ancestors who worshipped gods made from wood and iron, ancestors who punished widows for living while their husbands died and denied orphans of their father's wealth, smh.

OP, go and exhume the corpse if you are disturbed, we are not Stella Oduah. If you are planning to abandon your children on the belief that as an African they will be yours no matter what you do to them, you need to wake up or you will suffer the same faith.
Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by trapQ: 9:47am On Sep 06, 2016
Exactly!
kazuna:


Serious blazes......

Its this same adherence to outdated behaviours that kept we, the Africans, seriously lagging behind in every human indices of development. We tenaciously stick to archaic cultures and refuse to adopt other aspects of other people's culture that had improved their system.

Seriously, i wish our generation, would drop everythang stupidly African and embrace the sciento-technic culture that peoples of Japan and south Korea did.
Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by limeta(f): 9:52am On Sep 06, 2016
Was his father a part of his life?
Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by trapQ: 10:12am On Sep 06, 2016
Bear in mind that in some parts of igboland then (don't know about now), it was common to ask a recently widowed woman to drink the bath water of the deceased husband just to prove she didn't have a hand in her husband's death.

This happened to my neighbour. She lost her husband and was asked to drink the bathwater of his corpse but she didn't affirm whether she drank it or not.

#BabaricTradition

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Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by LadyExcellency: 10:15am On Sep 06, 2016
They should simply exhume the corpse for proper reburial.

Princess Oduah took this disagreement to far thereby disrespecting his father's heritage and what the throne stands for among our people.

The Princess has spoken and I endorse this article.
Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by kasiem(m): 12:32pm On Sep 06, 2016
trapQ:
Bear in mind that in some parts of igboland then (don't know about now), it was common to ask a recently widowed woman to drink the bath water of the deceased husband just to prove she didn't have a hand in her husband's death.

This happened to my neighbour. She lost her husband and was asked to drink the bathwater of his corpse but she didn't affirm whether she drank it or not.

#BabaricTradition
this what nollywood told us.
Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by kasiem(m): 12:37pm On Sep 06, 2016
kazuna:


Serious blazes......

Its this same adherence to outdated behaviours that kept we, the Africans, seriously lagging behind in every human indices of development. We tenaciously stick to archaic cultures and refuse to adopt other aspects of other people's culture that had improved their system.

Seriously, i wish our generation, would drop everythang stupidly African and embrace the sciento-technic culture that peoples of Japan and south Korea did.

Have we ever wondered why african did not develop like every other continent colonized by europeans? Have we?
Apart from corruption ( which also stems from our culture of grabbing public money fro extended family) , what else do u think is dragging us down? Is it the genetics of the Negro race? nah! We know what it is
what has kept Africa lagging behind is our lack of self realization. We can't go higher than the people we imitate.
Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by Nobody: 3:08pm On Sep 06, 2016
kasiem:
what has kept Africa lagging behind is our lack of self realization. We can't go higher than the people we imitate.

Self-realization? Can u elucidate further on that?

Wanting to be unique does not mean we had to stick with what we are so used to.

Imitation is not bad.

Imitation means you see someone who had moved to a psychological zenith moe than you and you strive to match him. After the world war 11, america soared, Japan noticed she was battered and lagging behind its rival America, & began to imitate (in all most every sphere). If u read articles as way back as 1950's you would find opinions chastising and calling the japanese copy cats. The west derided them by claiming they posses no identity, the say the japanese began dressing in suits, Toyota started stealing Ford Blueprints, Mitsubishi began ripping off American companies' engine designs. The West derided them with so much scorn much as we use to deride Chinese-made tech back in the 2000s. But little do they know that the japanese where not trying invent the wheel then but rather using whats already available....American Culture and Science.

they realized their deficiency and began to imitate the society that had crossed the rubicon until they too began to see the Zenith and redeveloped their identity.

IMITATION breeds INNOVATION. No society progresses in a stagnant culture.

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Re: On The Controversial Burial Of Odua's Son: We Must Realise That We're Africans by otukpo(f): 4:42pm On Sep 06, 2016
I am not in any way to judge Odua.

If the father of his son did not in any way participate in the child's life while growing up, what then does he want to do with the child's dead body?

A man of 28 years is no longer a boy, and if the father did not play his fatherly role in his life, i wonder if the dead man's spirit will have rested if his corpse this aken to a home that was never his.

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