ValentineMary:
This is very interesting. I stand on the opinion that nature does not have humans in mind. We are in the hand of "God" as my religious folks would say. But it is quite obvious we are at nature's mercy. Take a look at the recent hurricane Matthew. If not for the modern tech used to predict it, the catastrophe would be worse. Nature does not respect sex or race. Lightling kills thousands annually. Does that show that nature has regards for human lives let's take a look at the dinosaurs for example. How did they all die? nature killed them and many planets has gone through similar war. Showing the unjust chastisment of nature.

But if nature is not ment for us, how are we here I think the ans is obvious. Adaptation. We have developed our body molecules and physiology such that any slight escape from our atmosphere without space suit would lead to immediate death. We are dependent on earth so much, we get our oxygen, food, etc from it. We see a serene environment just as an amoeba thinks the pond is perfect for it. Right temp, salinity, pH, etc. But the amoeba adapted it's molecules and physiology to those conditionst just as we did with earth.

Eddlad:


Under what circumstances would you have said the earth was created for man.
An example or two.

ValentineMary:

If we did not have to adapt to foreign conditions.

johnydon22:


Does a flaw in a design make the construct any less designed? It just shows the designer to be a pretty terrible/shabby designer or is just learning making mistakes while at it..


So does flaws really negate design?

herald9:

It doesn't make it less designed, but makes it less habitable.
Just like if errors were discovered in the Burj Khalifa tower in Dubai, it could've been certified misfit for habitation.
But considering the fact that the earth has the right proportion of everything to support life raises another question as to why there must be catastrophes that endangers the very lives it was designed to habit.

This brought me to the conclusion that maybe this design was programmed to accommodate this mishaps as means of check and balance. After all the world is made up of opposites - good and evil, life and death, North and South, Male and female, etc.

I don't think it's a mistake. Just maybe the designer has no feelings. Or maybe its sense of empathy is complicated... Just as how complex the earth is.

Eddlad:


Half of these foreign conditions are just nature's own way of restoring the offset caused by man's actions, the other is half more or less even necessary.

If actions didn't have reactions, the foundations of the world would tremble, in short I don't thing there can be any better suited world for man ,not one we can even imagine anyways...

Offset caused by man these conditions has been like that before man began to exist.

DoctorAlien:
I really hope this will be a highly intellectual, friendly, bereft-of-any-abusive-word discussion.

On that note, I would say that Nature was made to suit man. I say this because the earth and the solar system is impeccably suited for life. Scientific research proves that a difference, even of the minutest degree, in the condition of the earth and of the solar system, would make life impossible.

DoctorAlien:
plaet..ton,

Is the solar system not suited for life? Without the sun, would there be life? That the solar system is an accident is your own opinion, and in no way is it the truth.

Prove that the earth is as old as 5 billion years.

Eddlad:


Half of these foreign conditions are just nature's own way of restoring the offset caused by man's actions, the other is half more or less even necessary.

johnydon22:


This is true, there is a pattern that can be devised from every occurence no matter how random - take for instance you fill a cup with tiny balls, place a lid over the cup and shake the cup vigourosly, the balls will randomly be fully shaken inside the cup, hitting the edges of the cup bouncing back and hitting the other.

With the behavourial tendency of the balls and cup material, if the motion of these balls are slowed down you can accurately predict the precise movement of a particular ball inside the cup, from it's direction you can predict which part of the cup it will hit next and which direction it will bounce back towards and ultimately the next impact point.

There is a predictable tendency in even the most random systems, the only factor required is the consistency of the values.